Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-24 Thread Karsten Heymann
Hi, Paul schrieb: Also, the italic chapter names in the header at the top of every page (memoir document class) were coming out as an embedded NimbusRomNo9L-Regu-Slant_167 font for some reason. All other italic text was just using a standard Times-Italic non-embedded font. Nimbus Roman is

Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-24 Thread Paul
Karsten Heymann wrote: Also, the italic chapter names in the header at the top of every page (memoir document class) were coming out as an embedded NimbusRomNo9L-Regu-Slant_167 font for some reason. All other italic text was just using a standard Times-Italic non-embedded font. Nimbus Roman

Fwd: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-24 Thread Sam Russell
(I assumed the Reply-to: would be the list) On 24/10/05, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any typographical reason why you might want slanted instead of italic or vice-versa? In the original edition describing TeX Knuth is very very strident about the need for slanted fonts, the wave of

Re: Fwd: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-24 Thread Mike Meyer
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sam Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: (I assumed the Reply-to: would be the list) Bad assumption. The list isn't broken. Knuth also argues in METAFONT that slanted will make it easier for typeface designers to produce multiple faces from a single style. So can they get a

Re: Fwd: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-24 Thread Sam Russell
On 25/10/05, Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Knuth also argues in METAFONT that slanted will make it easier for typeface designers to produce multiple faces from a single style. So can they get a slanted face out of an MM font? This is my recollection of Knuth's assertion[1]. Then

Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-24 Thread Karsten Heymann
Hi, Paul schrieb: Also, the italic chapter names in the header at the top of every page (memoir document class) were coming out as an embedded NimbusRomNo9L-Regu-Slant_167 font for some reason. All other italic text was just using a standard Times-Italic non-embedded font. Nimbus Roman is

Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-24 Thread Paul
Karsten Heymann wrote: Also, the italic chapter names in the header at the top of every page (memoir document class) were coming out as an embedded NimbusRomNo9L-Regu-Slant_167 font for some reason. All other italic text was just using a standard Times-Italic non-embedded font. Nimbus Roman

Fwd: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-24 Thread Sam Russell
(I assumed the Reply-to: would be the list) On 24/10/05, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any typographical reason why you might want slanted instead of italic or vice-versa? In the original edition describing TeX Knuth is very very strident about the need for slanted fonts, the wave of

Re: Fwd: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-24 Thread Mike Meyer
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sam Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: (I assumed the Reply-to: would be the list) Bad assumption. The list isn't broken. Knuth also argues in METAFONT that slanted will make it easier for typeface designers to produce multiple faces from a single style. So can they get a

Re: Fwd: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-24 Thread Sam Russell
On 25/10/05, Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Knuth also argues in METAFONT that slanted will make it easier for typeface designers to produce multiple faces from a single style. So can they get a slanted face out of an MM font? This is my recollection of Knuth's assertion[1]. Then

Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-24 Thread Karsten Heymann
Hi, Paul schrieb: Also, the italic chapter names in the header at the top of every page (memoir document class) were coming out as an embedded NimbusRomNo9L-Regu-Slant_167 font for some reason. All other italic text was just using a standard Times-Italic non-embedded font. Nimbus Roman is

Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-24 Thread Paul
Karsten Heymann wrote: >> Also, the italic chapter names in the header at the top of every page >> (memoir document class) were coming out as an embedded >> NimbusRomNo9L-Regu-Slant_167 font for some reason. All other italic >> text was just using a standard Times-Italic non-embedded font. > >

Fwd: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-24 Thread Sam Russell
(I assumed the Reply-to: would be the list) On 24/10/05, Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there any typographical reason why you might want slanted instead of > italic or vice-versa? In the original edition describing TeX Knuth is very very strident about the need for slanted fonts, the

Re: Fwd: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-24 Thread Mike Meyer
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Sam Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed: > (I assumed the Reply-to: would be the list) Bad assumption. The list isn't broken. > Knuth also argues in METAFONT that slanted will make it easier for > typeface designers to produce multiple faces from a single style. So can

Re: Fwd: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-24 Thread Sam Russell
On 25/10/05, Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Knuth also argues in METAFONT that slanted will make it easier for > > typeface designers to produce multiple faces from a single style. > > So can they get a slanted face out of an MM font? This is my recollection of Knuth's assertion[1].

Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-23 Thread Karsten Heymann
Hi Paul, Paul schrieb: I'm trying to understand exactly how LaTeX handles fonts/typefaces. Maybe you want to take http://www.tug.org/fonts/ as a starting point. An extremely good read is the fonts chapter from book The LaTeX Companion 2nd. Ed. Is there a way to see which fonts are available

Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-23 Thread Johan Ingvast
Karsten Heymann wrote: Is there a way to see which fonts are available to LaTeX? Try thils link: http://tug.org/TeXnik/mainFAQ.cgi?file=fonts/fonts It shows ways of displaying all fonts found on the latex paths. /johan

Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-23 Thread Stephen Harris
- Original Message - From: Johan Ingvast [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Karsten Heymann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 7:16 AM Subject: Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX Karsten Heymann wrote: Is there a way to see which

Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-23 Thread Karsten Heymann
Hi Paul, Paul schrieb: I'm trying to understand exactly how LaTeX handles fonts/typefaces. Maybe you want to take http://www.tug.org/fonts/ as a starting point. An extremely good read is the fonts chapter from book The LaTeX Companion 2nd. Ed. Is there a way to see which fonts are available

Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-23 Thread Johan Ingvast
Karsten Heymann wrote: Is there a way to see which fonts are available to LaTeX? Try thils link: http://tug.org/TeXnik/mainFAQ.cgi?file=fonts/fonts It shows ways of displaying all fonts found on the latex paths. /johan

Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-23 Thread Stephen Harris
- Original Message - From: Johan Ingvast [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Karsten Heymann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 7:16 AM Subject: Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX Karsten Heymann wrote: Is there a way to see which

Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-23 Thread Karsten Heymann
Hi Paul, Paul schrieb: I'm trying to understand exactly how LaTeX handles fonts/typefaces. Maybe you want to take http://www.tug.org/fonts/ as a starting point. An extremely good read is the fonts chapter from book "The LaTeX Companion" 2nd. Ed. Is there a way to see which fonts are

Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-23 Thread Johan Ingvast
Karsten Heymann wrote: Is there a way to see which fonts are available to LaTeX? Try thils link: http://tug.org/TeXnik/mainFAQ.cgi?file=fonts/fonts It shows ways of displaying all fonts found on the latex paths. /johan

Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-23 Thread Stephen Harris
- Original Message - From: "Johan Ingvast" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Karsten Heymann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 7:16 AM Subject: Re: Choice of fon

Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-21 Thread Paul
I'm trying to understand exactly how LaTeX handles fonts/typefaces. Is there a way to see which fonts are available to LaTeX? I can see several fonts in a /usr/share/texmf/fonts directory (I'm using Debian Linux) and trying \usepackage{fontname} works for most of them, but not all. There's also a

Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-21 Thread Angus Leeming
Paul wrote: What I need to be sure is that users on different machines running Windows or Mac, with different fonts installed, will still be able to read the PDF document. For example, if they don't have Times or New Century Schoolbook installed, will they still be able to view them? Does it

Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-21 Thread Paul
Angus Leeming wrote: http://www.etsimo.uniovi.es/pdf/six.htm explains that the PDF standard defines 14 fonts as standard. A standard-conforming reader will be able to display glyphs in these fonts even if they are not embedded in the document. OK so does that mean those fonts (Times,

Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-21 Thread Angus Leeming
Paul wrote: Angus Leeming wrote: http://www.etsimo.uniovi.es/pdf/six.htm explains that the PDF standard defines 14 fonts as standard. A standard-conforming reader will be able to display glyphs in these fonts even if they are not embedded in the document. OK so does that mean those fonts

Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-21 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005, Paul wrote: Most of my potential readership is going to be using Adobe Acrobat on Windows I imagine. So if I use Times, will that be treated as different from Times New Roman and cause problems for Windows users, or will it silently substitute the font (possibly causing

Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-21 Thread Paul A. Rubin
Paul wrote: Angus Leeming wrote: http://www.etsimo.uniovi.es/pdf/six.htm explains that the PDF standard defines 14 fonts as standard. A standard-conforming reader will be able to display glyphs in these fonts even if they are not embedded in the document. OK so does that mean those fonts

Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-21 Thread Stefano Franchi
On Oct 21, 2005, at 8:35 AM, Rich Shepard wrote: On Fri, 21 Oct 2005, Paul wrote: Most of my potential readership is going to be using Adobe Acrobat on Windows I imagine. So if I use Times, will that be treated as different from Times New Roman and cause problems for Windows users, or will

Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-21 Thread Paul
Stefano Franchi wrote: If you are willing to spend a few hours (well, more than a few) with Ph. Lehmannn's FontInstallation Guide, you'll be able to install any Postscript Type 1 font you may desire. It consists of a series of tutorials for Fontinst. On the other hand, if portability is a

Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-21 Thread Paul A. Rubin
Paul wrote: You said about sticking to basic PDF fonts, but I would have thought that it would be the other way round - unusual fonts would be *more* portable because they are actually embedded within the document. I'm not sure that's necessarily true. I think it is up to the software

Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-21 Thread Johan Ingvast
Paul A. Rubin wrote: Paul wrote: You said about sticking to basic PDF fonts, but I would have thought that it would be the other way round - unusual fonts would be *more* portable because they are actually embedded within the document. I'm not sure that's necessarily true. I think it is

Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-21 Thread Paul
I'm trying to understand exactly how LaTeX handles fonts/typefaces. Is there a way to see which fonts are available to LaTeX? I can see several fonts in a /usr/share/texmf/fonts directory (I'm using Debian Linux) and trying \usepackage{fontname} works for most of them, but not all. There's also a

Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-21 Thread Angus Leeming
Paul wrote: What I need to be sure is that users on different machines running Windows or Mac, with different fonts installed, will still be able to read the PDF document. For example, if they don't have Times or New Century Schoolbook installed, will they still be able to view them? Does it

Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-21 Thread Paul
Angus Leeming wrote: http://www.etsimo.uniovi.es/pdf/six.htm explains that the PDF standard defines 14 fonts as standard. A standard-conforming reader will be able to display glyphs in these fonts even if they are not embedded in the document. OK so does that mean those fonts (Times,

Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-21 Thread Angus Leeming
Paul wrote: Angus Leeming wrote: http://www.etsimo.uniovi.es/pdf/six.htm explains that the PDF standard defines 14 fonts as standard. A standard-conforming reader will be able to display glyphs in these fonts even if they are not embedded in the document. OK so does that mean those fonts

Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-21 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005, Paul wrote: Most of my potential readership is going to be using Adobe Acrobat on Windows I imagine. So if I use Times, will that be treated as different from Times New Roman and cause problems for Windows users, or will it silently substitute the font (possibly causing

Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-21 Thread Paul A. Rubin
Paul wrote: Angus Leeming wrote: http://www.etsimo.uniovi.es/pdf/six.htm explains that the PDF standard defines 14 fonts as standard. A standard-conforming reader will be able to display glyphs in these fonts even if they are not embedded in the document. OK so does that mean those fonts

Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-21 Thread Stefano Franchi
On Oct 21, 2005, at 8:35 AM, Rich Shepard wrote: On Fri, 21 Oct 2005, Paul wrote: Most of my potential readership is going to be using Adobe Acrobat on Windows I imagine. So if I use Times, will that be treated as different from Times New Roman and cause problems for Windows users, or will

Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-21 Thread Paul
Stefano Franchi wrote: If you are willing to spend a few hours (well, more than a few) with Ph. Lehmannn's FontInstallation Guide, you'll be able to install any Postscript Type 1 font you may desire. It consists of a series of tutorials for Fontinst. On the other hand, if portability is a

Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-21 Thread Paul A. Rubin
Paul wrote: You said about sticking to basic PDF fonts, but I would have thought that it would be the other way round - unusual fonts would be *more* portable because they are actually embedded within the document. I'm not sure that's necessarily true. I think it is up to the software

Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-21 Thread Johan Ingvast
Paul A. Rubin wrote: Paul wrote: You said about sticking to basic PDF fonts, but I would have thought that it would be the other way round - unusual fonts would be *more* portable because they are actually embedded within the document. I'm not sure that's necessarily true. I think it is

Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-21 Thread Paul
I'm trying to understand exactly how LaTeX handles fonts/typefaces. Is there a way to see which fonts are available to LaTeX? I can see several fonts in a /usr/share/texmf/fonts directory (I'm using Debian Linux) and trying \usepackage{fontname} works for most of them, but not all. There's also a

Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-21 Thread Angus Leeming
Paul wrote: > What I need to be sure is that users on different machines running > Windows or Mac, with different fonts installed, will still be able > to read the PDF document. For example, if they don't have Times or > New Century Schoolbook installed, will they still be able to view > them?

Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-21 Thread Paul
Angus Leeming wrote: > http://www.etsimo.uniovi.es/pdf/six.htm > explains that the PDF standard defines 14 fonts as "standard". A > standard-conforming reader will be able to display glyphs in these > fonts even if they are not embedded in the document. OK so does that mean those fonts (Times,

Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-21 Thread Angus Leeming
Paul wrote: > Angus Leeming wrote: >> http://www.etsimo.uniovi.es/pdf/six.htm >> explains that the PDF standard defines 14 fonts as "standard". A >> standard-conforming reader will be able to display glyphs in these >> fonts even if they are not embedded in the document. > > OK so does that mean

Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-21 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005, Paul wrote: Most of my potential readership is going to be using Adobe Acrobat on Windows I imagine. So if I use Times, will that be treated as different from Times New Roman and cause problems for Windows users, or will it silently substitute the font (possibly causing

Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-21 Thread Paul A. Rubin
Paul wrote: Angus Leeming wrote: http://www.etsimo.uniovi.es/pdf/six.htm explains that the PDF standard defines 14 fonts as "standard". A standard-conforming reader will be able to display glyphs in these fonts even if they are not embedded in the document. OK so does that mean those fonts

Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-21 Thread Stefano Franchi
On Oct 21, 2005, at 8:35 AM, Rich Shepard wrote: On Fri, 21 Oct 2005, Paul wrote: Most of my potential readership is going to be using Adobe Acrobat on Windows I imagine. So if I use Times, will that be treated as different from Times New Roman and cause problems for Windows users, or will

Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-21 Thread Paul
Stefano Franchi wrote: > If you are willing to spend a few hours (well, more than a few) with > Ph. Lehmannn's FontInstallation Guide, you'll be able to install any > Postscript Type 1 font you may desire. It consists of a series of > tutorials for Fontinst. On the other hand, if portability

Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-21 Thread Paul A. Rubin
Paul wrote: You said about sticking to basic PDF fonts, but I would have thought that it would be the other way round - unusual fonts would be *more* portable because they are actually embedded within the document. I'm not sure that's necessarily true. I think it is up to the software

Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-21 Thread Johan Ingvast
Paul A. Rubin wrote: Paul wrote: You said about sticking to basic PDF fonts, but I would have thought that it would be the other way round - unusual fonts would be *more* portable because they are actually embedded within the document. I'm not sure that's necessarily true. I think it is