Re: Lilypond integration

2009-04-01 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-03-23, Piero Faustini wrote: I have a doubt, although it's regarding more the LaTeX-LilyPond integration: lily-book knows how to break music lines (or pages) in a given latex environment, Are you sure? As I understand the docs of lilypond-book, it is a preprocessor that works by

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-04-01 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-03-23, Helge Hafting wrote: I don't know if it's possible, but the ideal solution (for me) would be some kind of lilypond environment (somewhat like the math environment), where you can type in your lilypond code directly. This could be done, best in a lilypond.module. After

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-04-01 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Guenter Milde wrote: After leaving this environment, the graphic is rendered and put into place in the LyX document. If you need to change it, you just click on the graphic and the code environment pops up again. This is rather hard. With lilypond-book, you will have to live with the

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-04-01 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-04-01, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Guenter Milde wrote: After leaving this environment, the graphic is rendered and put into place in the LyX document. If you need to change it, you just click on the graphic and the code environment pops up again. This is rather hard. With

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-04-01 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-03-23, Piero Faustini wrote: I have a doubt, although it's regarding more the LaTeX-LilyPond integration: lily-book knows how to break music lines (or pages) in a given latex environment, Are you sure? As I understand the docs of lilypond-book, it is a preprocessor that works by

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-04-01 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-03-23, Helge Hafting wrote: I don't know if it's possible, but the ideal solution (for me) would be some kind of lilypond environment (somewhat like the math environment), where you can type in your lilypond code directly. This could be done, best in a lilypond.module. After

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-04-01 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Guenter Milde wrote: After leaving this environment, the graphic is rendered and put into place in the LyX document. If you need to change it, you just click on the graphic and the code environment pops up again. This is rather hard. With lilypond-book, you will have to live with the

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-04-01 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-04-01, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Guenter Milde wrote: After leaving this environment, the graphic is rendered and put into place in the LyX document. If you need to change it, you just click on the graphic and the code environment pops up again. This is rather hard. With

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-04-01 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-03-23, Piero Faustini wrote: > I have a doubt, although it's regarding more the LaTeX-LilyPond integration: > lily-book knows how to break music lines (or pages) in a given latex > environment, Are you sure? As I understand the docs of lilypond-book, it is a preprocessor that works

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-04-01 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-03-23, Helge Hafting wrote: >> I don't know if it's possible, but the ideal solution (for me) would be >> some kind of lilypond environment (somewhat like the math environment), >> where you can type in your lilypond code directly. This could be done, best in a "lilypond.module". >>

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-04-01 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Guenter Milde wrote: >>> After leaving this environment, the graphic is rendered and put into >>> place in the LyX document. If you need to change it, you just click on >>> the graphic and the code environment pops up again. > > This is rather hard. With lilypond-book, you will have to live with

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-04-01 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-04-01, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Guenter Milde wrote: After leaving this environment, the graphic is rendered and put into place in the LyX document. If you need to change it, you just click on the graphic and the code environment pops up again. >> This is rather hard.

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-31 Thread Helge Hafting
Piero Faustini wrote: Support for lilypond-book would be interesting. And sure - if you volunteer to do some work then you will get it faster. I would happily contribute, but I'm not a programmer. May I be of some help just giving some suggestion or testing? This process can be divided

RE: Lilypond integration

2009-03-31 Thread Piero Faustini
The big question is - how can we know that another re-run is needed? LyX can't look at the final PDF and spot a badly broken musical line. However, lyx can be made to search any logfile lilypond produce, and look for messages that indicate such problems. I don't know enough about

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-31 Thread Helge Hafting
Piero Faustini wrote: Support for lilypond-book would be interesting. And sure - if you volunteer to do some work then you will get it faster. I would happily contribute, but I'm not a programmer. May I be of some help just giving some suggestion or testing? This process can be divided

RE: Lilypond integration

2009-03-31 Thread Piero Faustini
The big question is - how can we know that another re-run is needed? LyX can't look at the final PDF and spot a badly broken musical line. However, lyx can be made to search any logfile lilypond produce, and look for messages that indicate such problems. I don't know enough about

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-31 Thread Helge Hafting
Piero Faustini wrote: Support for lilypond-book would be interesting. And sure - if you volunteer to do some work then you will get it faster. I would happily contribute, but I'm not a programmer. May I be of some help just giving some suggestion or testing? This process can be divided

RE: Lilypond integration

2009-03-31 Thread Piero Faustini
> The big question is - how can we know that another re-run is needed? LyX > can't look at the final PDF and spot a badly broken musical line. > However, lyx can be made to search any logfile lilypond produce, and > look for messages that indicate such problems. > > I don't know enough about

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-23 Thread Helge Hafting
Johannes Asal wrote: I know that you can include Lilypond material by External Material. That's ok when you have few notation examples in your text and I appreciate that someone took the time to implement it. But I'm trying to write a book about jazz harmonics and therefore I need many musical

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-23 Thread Piero Faustini
Support for lilypond-book would be interesting. And sure - if you volunteer to do some work then you will get it faster. I would happily contribute, but I'm not a programmer. May I be of some help just giving some suggestion or testing? This process can be divided into several steps, you

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-23 Thread Helge Hafting
Johannes Asal wrote: I know that you can include Lilypond material by External Material. That's ok when you have few notation examples in your text and I appreciate that someone took the time to implement it. But I'm trying to write a book about jazz harmonics and therefore I need many musical

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-23 Thread Piero Faustini
Support for lilypond-book would be interesting. And sure - if you volunteer to do some work then you will get it faster. I would happily contribute, but I'm not a programmer. May I be of some help just giving some suggestion or testing? This process can be divided into several steps, you

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-23 Thread Helge Hafting
Johannes Asal wrote: I know that you can include Lilypond material by External Material. That's ok when you have few notation examples in your text and I appreciate that someone took the time to implement it. But I'm trying to write a book about jazz harmonics and therefore I need many musical

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-23 Thread Piero Faustini
> Support for lilypond-book would be interesting. And sure - if you > volunteer to do some work then you will get it faster. I would happily contribute, but I'm not a programmer. May I be of some help just giving some suggestion or testing? > This process can be divided into several steps,

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-16 Thread Johannes Asal
Piero Faustini pierofaust...@... writes: I understand what are your needs, because almost identical as mine. I had to discard lilypond-book because it was too difficoult to integrate with LyX. I must admit I didn't try too much: but I use a lot of multiple-pass packages such BibLaTeX (a

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-16 Thread Piero Faustini
Johannes Asal johannes.a...@... writes: Thanks for your answer. I was checking the nabble forum so I didn't read your posts. I think the External material solution is not optimal, as it forces you to interrupt your creative process. You need to switch to another application and create a

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-16 Thread Doug Laidlaw
I run Lyx, Lilypond and Frescobaldi. I still use Noteedit to write Lilypond files, although development has stopped. I have no reason to import Lilypond into Lyx, but under Converters I did notice that there are commands for Noteedit and Lilypond files. Frescobaldi no longer depends on Kate,

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-16 Thread Johannes Asal
Piero Faustini pierofaust...@... writes: I understand what are your needs, because almost identical as mine. I had to discard lilypond-book because it was too difficoult to integrate with LyX. I must admit I didn't try too much: but I use a lot of multiple-pass packages such BibLaTeX (a

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-16 Thread Piero Faustini
Johannes Asal johannes.a...@... writes: Thanks for your answer. I was checking the nabble forum so I didn't read your posts. I think the External material solution is not optimal, as it forces you to interrupt your creative process. You need to switch to another application and create a

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-16 Thread Doug Laidlaw
I run Lyx, Lilypond and Frescobaldi. I still use Noteedit to write Lilypond files, although development has stopped. I have no reason to import Lilypond into Lyx, but under Converters I did notice that there are commands for Noteedit and Lilypond files. Frescobaldi no longer depends on Kate,

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-16 Thread Johannes Asal
Piero Faustini writes: > > I understand what are your needs, because almost identical as mine. > I had to discard lilypond-book because it was too difficoult to integrate > with > LyX. I must admit I didn't try too much: but I use a lot of multiple-pass > packages such

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-16 Thread Piero Faustini
Johannes Asal writes: > Thanks for your answer. I was checking the nabble forum so I didn't read your > posts. I think the External material solution is not optimal, as it forces you > to interrupt your creative process. You need to switch to another application > and create

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-16 Thread Doug Laidlaw
I run Lyx, Lilypond and Frescobaldi. I still use Noteedit to write Lilypond files, although development has stopped. I have no reason to import Lilypond into Lyx, but under "Converters" I did notice that there are commands for Noteedit and Lilypond files. Frescobaldi no longer depends on

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-10 Thread Helge Hafting
j.asal wrote: Hi, I want to write a music theory book with LyX. For musical examples I would like to use Lilypond, but there seems to be no support for including and displaying Lilypond snippets (apart from importing whole Lilypond files). I know that one could use lilypond-book to postprocess

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-10 Thread Pavel Sanda
j.asal wrote: Hi, I want to write a music theory book with LyX. For musical examples I would like to use Lilypond, but there seems to be no support for including and displaying Lilypond snippets (apart from importing whole Lilypond files). I know that one could use lilypond-book to

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-10 Thread Johannes Asal
I know that you can include Lilypond material by External Material. That's ok when you have few notation examples in your text and I appreciate that someone took the time to implement it. But I'm trying to write a book about jazz harmonics and therefore I need many musical examples that have to be

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-10 Thread Pavel Sanda
Johannes Asal wrote: 1. It interrupts the creative process, because you need to prepare the lilypond snippets in another editor and import them afterwards 2. You don't have a preview and therefore it is a bit difficult to see whether you have written something already or not you should be

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-10 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-03-10, Pavel Sanda wrote: btw as a small poll - what version of lilypond you people use? (see http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5834 ) Version: 2.10.33-2.3 (Debian/testing). BTW: How much work would it be to copy/adapt the lilypond external inset to an inset for *.abc music

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-10 Thread Helge Hafting
j.asal wrote: Hi, I want to write a music theory book with LyX. For musical examples I would like to use Lilypond, but there seems to be no support for including and displaying Lilypond snippets (apart from importing whole Lilypond files). I know that one could use lilypond-book to postprocess

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-10 Thread Pavel Sanda
j.asal wrote: Hi, I want to write a music theory book with LyX. For musical examples I would like to use Lilypond, but there seems to be no support for including and displaying Lilypond snippets (apart from importing whole Lilypond files). I know that one could use lilypond-book to

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-10 Thread Johannes Asal
I know that you can include Lilypond material by External Material. That's ok when you have few notation examples in your text and I appreciate that someone took the time to implement it. But I'm trying to write a book about jazz harmonics and therefore I need many musical examples that have to be

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-10 Thread Pavel Sanda
Johannes Asal wrote: 1. It interrupts the creative process, because you need to prepare the lilypond snippets in another editor and import them afterwards 2. You don't have a preview and therefore it is a bit difficult to see whether you have written something already or not you should be

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-10 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-03-10, Pavel Sanda wrote: btw as a small poll - what version of lilypond you people use? (see http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5834 ) Version: 2.10.33-2.3 (Debian/testing). BTW: How much work would it be to copy/adapt the lilypond external inset to an inset for *.abc music

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-10 Thread Helge Hafting
j.asal wrote: Hi, I want to write a music theory book with LyX. For musical examples I would like to use Lilypond, but there seems to be no support for including and displaying Lilypond snippets (apart from importing whole Lilypond files). I know that one could use lilypond-book to postprocess

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-10 Thread Pavel Sanda
j.asal wrote: > > Hi, > > I want to write a music theory book with LyX. For musical examples I would > like to use Lilypond, but there seems to be no support for including and > displaying Lilypond snippets (apart from importing whole Lilypond files). I > know that one could use lilypond-book to

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-10 Thread Johannes Asal
I know that you can include Lilypond material by External Material. That's ok when you have few notation examples in your text and I appreciate that someone took the time to implement it. But I'm trying to write a book about jazz harmonics and therefore I need many musical examples that have to be

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-10 Thread Pavel Sanda
Johannes Asal wrote: > 1. It interrupts the creative process, because you need to prepare the > lilypond snippets in another editor and import them afterwards > 2. You don't have a preview and therefore it is a bit difficult to see > whether you have written something already or not you should be

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-10 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-03-10, Pavel Sanda wrote: > btw as a small poll - what version of lilypond you people use? > (see http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5834 ) Version: 2.10.33-2.3 (Debian/testing). BTW: How much work would it be to copy/adapt the lilypond external inset to an inset for *.abc music

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-09 Thread Charles de Miramon
j.asal wrote: Hi, I want to write a music theory book with LyX. For musical examples I would like to use Lilypond, but there seems to be no support for including and displaying Lilypond snippets (apart from importing whole Lilypond files). I know that one could use lilypond-book to

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-09 Thread Piero Faustini
Charles de Miramon cmira...@... writes: j.asal wrote: Hi, I want to write a music theory book with LyX. For musical examples I would like to use Lilypond, but there seems to be no support for including and displaying Lilypond snippets (apart from importing whole Lilypond

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-09 Thread Charles de Miramon
j.asal wrote: Hi, I want to write a music theory book with LyX. For musical examples I would like to use Lilypond, but there seems to be no support for including and displaying Lilypond snippets (apart from importing whole Lilypond files). I know that one could use lilypond-book to

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-09 Thread Piero Faustini
Charles de Miramon cmira...@... writes: j.asal wrote: Hi, I want to write a music theory book with LyX. For musical examples I would like to use Lilypond, but there seems to be no support for including and displaying Lilypond snippets (apart from importing whole Lilypond

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-09 Thread Charles de Miramon
j.asal wrote: > > Hi, > > I want to write a music theory book with LyX. For musical examples I would > like to use Lilypond, but there seems to be no support for including and > displaying Lilypond snippets (apart from importing whole Lilypond files). > I know that one could use lilypond-book

Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-09 Thread Piero Faustini
Charles de Miramon writes: > > j.asal wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > I want to write a music theory book with LyX. For musical examples I would > > like to use Lilypond, but there seems to be no support for including and > > displaying Lilypond snippets (apart from importing