Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-25 Thread Wolfgang Keller
> > > And I say this as a LyX-only writer for the past 15 years or so. > > > > The first public LyX version was when? Can't have been much longer > > than 10 years ago. That was a typo and should have been 15, as the original message said. I know Lyrix was implemented first using XForms some

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-25 Thread John Kane
Kids.! Remember SGML on the IBM mainframe? And did you know that you could use IBM punch cards as postcards? From: Wolfgang Keller <felip...@gmx.net> To: LyX Users List <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org> Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 9:01:08 AM Subject:

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-25 Thread David L. Johnson
On 08/25/2013 09:01 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: That was a typo and should have been 15, as the original message said. I know Lyrix was implemented first using XForms some time late in the 90s, but it must have been after 1995. Not exactly. It began either in 95 or earlier, and the original

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-23 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
22/08/2013 21:09, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com: Yeah, now that you mention it, I remember KLyX. Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU for winning that battle! The problem was not only around KDE (although there were ideological ideas behind this port that we did not share), but rather that we

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-23 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
Went and had a look, I can find LyX documents from 2000 having survived transitions through a number of Linux distributions and machines, to a number of Macs. :-)-O el on 2013-08-21 17:53 stefano franchi said the following: On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Wolfgang Keller felip...@gmx.net

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-23 Thread Les Denham
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 17:26:31 -0700 Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote: On Aug 21, 2013, at 5:16 AM, Les Denham lden...@hal-pc.org wrote: On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:13:23 -0700 Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote: On Aug 18, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Les Denham lden...@hal-pc.org wrote: My

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-23 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 10:20:06 +0200 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org wrote: 22/08/2013 21:09, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com: Yeah, now that you mention it, I remember KLyX. Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU for winning that battle! The problem was not only around KDE (although

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-23 Thread Jerry
On Aug 23, 2013, at 7:28 AM, Les Denham lden...@hal-pc.org wrote: On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 17:26:31 -0700 Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote: On Aug 21, 2013, at 5:16 AM, Les Denham lden...@hal-pc.org wrote: On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:13:23 -0700 Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote: On Aug 18,

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-23 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
22/08/2013 21:09, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com: Yeah, now that you mention it, I remember KLyX. Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU for winning that battle! The problem was not only around KDE (although there were ideological ideas behind this port that we did not share), but rather that we

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-23 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
Went and had a look, I can find LyX documents from 2000 having survived transitions through a number of Linux distributions and machines, to a number of Macs. :-)-O el on 2013-08-21 17:53 stefano franchi said the following: On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Wolfgang Keller felip...@gmx.net

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-23 Thread Les Denham
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 17:26:31 -0700 Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote: On Aug 21, 2013, at 5:16 AM, Les Denham lden...@hal-pc.org wrote: On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:13:23 -0700 Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote: On Aug 18, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Les Denham lden...@hal-pc.org wrote: My

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-23 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 10:20:06 +0200 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org wrote: 22/08/2013 21:09, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com: Yeah, now that you mention it, I remember KLyX. Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU for winning that battle! The problem was not only around KDE (although

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-23 Thread Jerry
On Aug 23, 2013, at 7:28 AM, Les Denham lden...@hal-pc.org wrote: On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 17:26:31 -0700 Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote: On Aug 21, 2013, at 5:16 AM, Les Denham lden...@hal-pc.org wrote: On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:13:23 -0700 Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote: On Aug 18,

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-23 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
22/08/2013 21:09, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com: Yeah, now that you mention it, I remember KLyX. Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU for winning that battle! The problem was not only around KDE (although there were ideological ideas behind this port that we did not share), but rather that we

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-23 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
Went and had a look, I can find LyX documents from 2000 having survived transitions through a number of Linux distributions and machines, to a number of Macs. :-)-O el on 2013-08-21 17:53 stefano franchi said the following: > > On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Wolfgang Keller

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-23 Thread Les Denham
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 17:26:31 -0700 Jerry wrote: > > On Aug 21, 2013, at 5:16 AM, Les Denham wrote: > > > On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:13:23 -0700 > > Jerry wrote: > > > >> > >> On Aug 18, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Les Denham

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-23 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 10:20:06 +0200 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > 22/08/2013 21:09, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com: > > Yeah, now that you mention it, I remember KLyX. Thank you, thank > > you, THANK YOU for winning that battle! > > The problem was not only around KDE

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-23 Thread Jerry
On Aug 23, 2013, at 7:28 AM, Les Denham wrote: > On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 17:26:31 -0700 > Jerry wrote: > >> >> On Aug 21, 2013, at 5:16 AM, Les Denham wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:13:23 -0700 >>> Jerry

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
Am Wednesday, 21. August 2013, 18:53:58 schrieb stefano franchi: On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Wolfgang Keller felip...@gmx.net wrote: And I say this as a LyX-only writer for the past 15 years or so. The first public LyX version was when? Can't have been much longer than 10 years

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
Am Thursday, 22. August 2013, 09:18:09 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de wrote: by the way, in Tübingen, my home town Cool! :) Scott More to Matthias Ettrich: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthias_Ettrich Wolfgang

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Pavel Sanda
Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: The history of LyX http://www.lyx.org/misc/archaeology/ Pavel

Re: Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Pavel Sanda
Scott Kostyshak wrote: Also note that Wikipedia's LyX page [1] lists the following: LyX 0.7.0 was released on October 24, 1995. That's derived from in depth searching I did few years back and put on the page posted in my previous mail. BTW David, do you still have somewhere stored any pre

Re: Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:49 AM, David L. Johnson d...@lehigh.edu wrote: at one time, and used Motif widgets). It was originally called LyriX, but Matthais got a letter from a lawyer about that, so he changed the name. According to Matthias: The idea to simply strip the name down to LyX came

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
Am Thursday, 22. August 2013, 10:43:55 schrieb Liviu Andronic: On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:49 AM, David L. Johnson d...@lehigh.edu wrote: at one time, and used Motif widgets). It was originally called LyriX, but Matthais got a letter from a lawyer about that, so he changed the name.

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de wrote: I wonder how many man hours where saved in the meantime by having to write Lyx instead of Lyrix? What about the frustration from having to write LyX instead of Lyx, or even worse the following monstrosity:

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread David L. Johnson
On 08/22/2013 03:42 AM, Pavel Sanda wrote: Scott Kostyshak wrote: Also note that Wikipedia's LyX page [1] lists the following: LyX 0.7.0 was released on October 24, 1995. That's derived from in depth searching I did few years back and put on the page posted in my previous mail. BTW

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread David L. Johnson
On 08/22/2013 04:43 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote: On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:49 AM, David L. Johnsond...@lehigh.edu wrote: at one time, and used Motif widgets). It was originally called LyriX, but Matthais got a letter from a lawyer about that, so he changed the name. According to Matthias: The

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 09:26:39 +0200 Wolfgang Engelmann engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de wrote: Am Thursday, 22. August 2013, 09:18:09 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de wrote: by the way, in Tübingen, my home town Cool!

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 22/08/13 20:42, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com a écrit : In the history of LyX, did anyone campaign for it to be a KDE app, and if so, how was that (in my opinion mistake) prevented? This is KLyX, a fork attempted by Matthias without telling us. But we won in the end :) JMarc

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 20:54:36 +0200 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org wrote: Le 22/08/13 20:42, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com a écrit : In the history of LyX, did anyone campaign for it to be a KDE app, and if so, how was that (in my opinion mistake) prevented? This is KLyX, a

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread David L. Johnson
On 08/22/2013 02:42 PM, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com wrote: Thursday, 22. August 2013, 09:18:09 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: I give thanks to eternity that LyX wasn't made into a KDE app. My business has banned all use of all KDE libraries, for stability's sake. Qt's not bad, as a matter of

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Jerry
On Aug 21, 2013, at 5:16 AM, Les Denham lden...@hal-pc.org wrote: On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:13:23 -0700 Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote: On Aug 18, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Les Denham lden...@hal-pc.org wrote: My general approach to getting a LyX document into Word format is to us the LyXHTML

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Alan L Tyree
On 23/08/13 10:26, Jerry wrote: On Aug 21, 2013, at 5:16 AM, Les Denham lden...@hal-pc.org wrote: On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:13:23 -0700 Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote: On Aug 18, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Les Denham lden...@hal-pc.org wrote: My general approach to getting a LyX document into Word

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
Am Wednesday, 21. August 2013, 18:53:58 schrieb stefano franchi: On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Wolfgang Keller felip...@gmx.net wrote: And I say this as a LyX-only writer for the past 15 years or so. The first public LyX version was when? Can't have been much longer than 10 years

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
Am Thursday, 22. August 2013, 09:18:09 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de wrote: by the way, in Tübingen, my home town Cool! :) Scott More to Matthias Ettrich: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthias_Ettrich Wolfgang

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Pavel Sanda
Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: The history of LyX http://www.lyx.org/misc/archaeology/ Pavel

Re: Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Pavel Sanda
Scott Kostyshak wrote: Also note that Wikipedia's LyX page [1] lists the following: LyX 0.7.0 was released on October 24, 1995. That's derived from in depth searching I did few years back and put on the page posted in my previous mail. BTW David, do you still have somewhere stored any pre

Re: Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:49 AM, David L. Johnson d...@lehigh.edu wrote: at one time, and used Motif widgets). It was originally called LyriX, but Matthais got a letter from a lawyer about that, so he changed the name. According to Matthias: The idea to simply strip the name down to LyX came

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
Am Thursday, 22. August 2013, 10:43:55 schrieb Liviu Andronic: On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:49 AM, David L. Johnson d...@lehigh.edu wrote: at one time, and used Motif widgets). It was originally called LyriX, but Matthais got a letter from a lawyer about that, so he changed the name.

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de wrote: I wonder how many man hours where saved in the meantime by having to write Lyx instead of Lyrix? What about the frustration from having to write LyX instead of Lyx, or even worse the following monstrosity:

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread David L. Johnson
On 08/22/2013 03:42 AM, Pavel Sanda wrote: Scott Kostyshak wrote: Also note that Wikipedia's LyX page [1] lists the following: LyX 0.7.0 was released on October 24, 1995. That's derived from in depth searching I did few years back and put on the page posted in my previous mail. BTW

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread David L. Johnson
On 08/22/2013 04:43 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote: On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:49 AM, David L. Johnsond...@lehigh.edu wrote: at one time, and used Motif widgets). It was originally called LyriX, but Matthais got a letter from a lawyer about that, so he changed the name. According to Matthias: The

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 09:26:39 +0200 Wolfgang Engelmann engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de wrote: Am Thursday, 22. August 2013, 09:18:09 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de wrote: by the way, in Tübingen, my home town Cool!

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 22/08/13 20:42, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com a écrit : In the history of LyX, did anyone campaign for it to be a KDE app, and if so, how was that (in my opinion mistake) prevented? This is KLyX, a fork attempted by Matthias without telling us. But we won in the end :) JMarc

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 20:54:36 +0200 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org wrote: Le 22/08/13 20:42, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com a écrit : In the history of LyX, did anyone campaign for it to be a KDE app, and if so, how was that (in my opinion mistake) prevented? This is KLyX, a

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread David L. Johnson
On 08/22/2013 02:42 PM, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com wrote: Thursday, 22. August 2013, 09:18:09 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: I give thanks to eternity that LyX wasn't made into a KDE app. My business has banned all use of all KDE libraries, for stability's sake. Qt's not bad, as a matter of

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Jerry
On Aug 21, 2013, at 5:16 AM, Les Denham lden...@hal-pc.org wrote: On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:13:23 -0700 Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote: On Aug 18, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Les Denham lden...@hal-pc.org wrote: My general approach to getting a LyX document into Word format is to us the LyXHTML

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Alan L Tyree
On 23/08/13 10:26, Jerry wrote: On Aug 21, 2013, at 5:16 AM, Les Denham lden...@hal-pc.org wrote: On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:13:23 -0700 Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote: On Aug 18, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Les Denham lden...@hal-pc.org wrote: My general approach to getting a LyX document into Word

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
Am Wednesday, 21. August 2013, 18:53:58 schrieb stefano franchi: > On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: > > > And I say this as a LyX-only writer for the past 15 years or so. > > > > The first public LyX version was when? Can't have been much longer > >

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
Am Thursday, 22. August 2013, 09:18:09 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann > > wrote: > > by the way, in Tübingen, my home town > > Cool! :) > > Scott More to Matthias Ettrich:

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Pavel Sanda
Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: > The history of LyX http://www.lyx.org/misc/archaeology/ Pavel

Re: Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Pavel Sanda
Scott Kostyshak wrote: > Also note that Wikipedia's LyX page [1] lists the following: > LyX 0.7.0 was released on October 24, 1995. That's derived from in depth searching I did few years back and put on the page posted in my previous mail. BTW David, do you still have somewhere stored any

Re: Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:49 AM, David L. Johnson wrote: > at one time, and used Motif widgets). It was originally called "LyriX", > but Matthais got a letter from a lawyer about that, so he changed the name. > According to Matthias: "The idea to simply strip the name down to

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
Am Thursday, 22. August 2013, 10:43:55 schrieb Liviu Andronic: > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:49 AM, David L. Johnson wrote: > > at one time, and used Motif widgets). It was originally called > > "LyriX", but Matthais got a letter from a lawyer about that, so he > > changed the

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: > I wonder how many man hours where saved in the meantime by having to write > Lyx instead of Lyrix? > What about the frustration from having to write LyX instead of Lyx, or even worse the following

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread David L. Johnson
On 08/22/2013 03:42 AM, Pavel Sanda wrote: Scott Kostyshak wrote: Also note that Wikipedia's LyX page [1] lists the following: LyX 0.7.0 was released on October 24, 1995. That's derived from in depth searching I did few years back and put on the page posted in my previous mail. BTW

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread David L. Johnson
On 08/22/2013 04:43 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote: On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:49 AM, David L. Johnson wrote: at one time, and used Motif widgets). It was originally called "LyriX", but Matthais got a letter from a lawyer about that, so he changed the name. According to Matthias:

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 09:26:39 +0200 Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: > Am Thursday, 22. August 2013, 09:18:09 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann > > > > wrote: > > > by the way, in Tübingen, my home

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 22/08/13 20:42, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com a écrit : In the history of LyX, did anyone campaign for it to be a KDE app, and if so, how was that (in my opinion mistake) prevented? This is KLyX, a fork attempted by Matthias without telling us. But we won in the end :) JMarc

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 20:54:36 +0200 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Le 22/08/13 20:42, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com a écrit : > > In the history of LyX, did anyone campaign for it to be a KDE app, > > and if so, how was that (in my opinion mistake) prevented? > > This is

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread David L. Johnson
On 08/22/2013 02:42 PM, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com wrote: Thursday, 22. August 2013, 09:18:09 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: I give thanks to eternity that LyX wasn't made into a KDE app. My business has banned all use of all KDE libraries, for stability's sake. Qt's not bad, as a matter of

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Jerry
On Aug 21, 2013, at 5:16 AM, Les Denham wrote: > On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:13:23 -0700 > Jerry wrote: > >> >> On Aug 18, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Les Denham wrote: >> >>> My general approach to getting a LyX document into Word format is

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Alan L Tyree
On 23/08/13 10:26, Jerry wrote: On Aug 21, 2013, at 5:16 AM, Les Denham wrote: On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:13:23 -0700 Jerry wrote: On Aug 18, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Les Denham wrote: My general approach to getting a LyX document into

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-21 Thread Les Denham
On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:13:23 -0700 Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote: On Aug 18, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Les Denham lden...@hal-pc.org wrote: My general approach to getting a LyX document into Word format is to us the LyXHTML export, import the exported file into LibreOffice, fix the

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-21 Thread stefano franchi
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Wolfgang Keller felip...@gmx.net wrote: Since all the typographic algorithms of TeX (linebreaking etc.) are well-documented open-source, I always wondered why none of the more reasonable document processors has ever implemented them. Wordperfect could have

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-21 Thread Wolfgang Keller
BTW, not to tamper enthusiasms, but the standard output of LaTeX/TeX is not quite (yet) at the level that a professional typesetter would produce. Obviously, an experienced competent human being will (almost) always be able to deliver better results than *any* algorithm. But since I am a

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-21 Thread stefano franchi
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Wolfgang Keller felip...@gmx.net wrote: And I say this as a LyX-only writer for the past 15 years or so. The first public LyX version was when? Can't have been much longer than 10 years ago. Way earlier than that. I switched to Lyx after I completed my

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-21 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 6:53 PM, stefano franchi stefano.fran...@gmail.com wrote: And I say this as a LyX-only writer for the past 15 years or so. The first public LyX version was when? Can't have been much longer than 10 years ago. Way earlier than that. I switched to Lyx after I completed

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-21 Thread stefano franchi
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 6:53 PM, stefano franchi stefano.fran...@gmail.com wrote: And I say this as a LyX-only writer for the past 15 years or so. The first public LyX version was when? Can't have been much

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-21 Thread Chris Menzel
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 11:53 AM, stefano franchi stefano.fran...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Wolfgang Keller felip...@gmx.netwrote: And I say this as a LyX-only writer for the past 15 years or so. The first public LyX version was when? Can't have been much longer

Fwd: Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-21 Thread David L. Johnson
Original Message Subject:Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 12:22:19 -0400 From: David L. Johnson david.john...@lehigh.edu To: Wolfgang Keller felip...@gmx.net On 08/21/2013 11:45 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: And I

Re: Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-21 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:49 PM, David L. Johnson d...@lehigh.edu wrote: Original Message Subject: Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 12:22:19 -0400 From: David L. Johnson david.john...@lehigh.edu david.john...@lehigh.edu

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-21 Thread Les Denham
On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:13:23 -0700 Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote: On Aug 18, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Les Denham lden...@hal-pc.org wrote: My general approach to getting a LyX document into Word format is to us the LyXHTML export, import the exported file into LibreOffice, fix the

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-21 Thread stefano franchi
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Wolfgang Keller felip...@gmx.net wrote: Since all the typographic algorithms of TeX (linebreaking etc.) are well-documented open-source, I always wondered why none of the more reasonable document processors has ever implemented them. Wordperfect could have

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-21 Thread Wolfgang Keller
BTW, not to tamper enthusiasms, but the standard output of LaTeX/TeX is not quite (yet) at the level that a professional typesetter would produce. Obviously, an experienced competent human being will (almost) always be able to deliver better results than *any* algorithm. But since I am a

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-21 Thread stefano franchi
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Wolfgang Keller felip...@gmx.net wrote: And I say this as a LyX-only writer for the past 15 years or so. The first public LyX version was when? Can't have been much longer than 10 years ago. Way earlier than that. I switched to Lyx after I completed my

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-21 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 6:53 PM, stefano franchi stefano.fran...@gmail.com wrote: And I say this as a LyX-only writer for the past 15 years or so. The first public LyX version was when? Can't have been much longer than 10 years ago. Way earlier than that. I switched to Lyx after I completed

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-21 Thread stefano franchi
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 6:53 PM, stefano franchi stefano.fran...@gmail.com wrote: And I say this as a LyX-only writer for the past 15 years or so. The first public LyX version was when? Can't have been much

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-21 Thread Chris Menzel
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 11:53 AM, stefano franchi stefano.fran...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Wolfgang Keller felip...@gmx.netwrote: And I say this as a LyX-only writer for the past 15 years or so. The first public LyX version was when? Can't have been much longer

Fwd: Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-21 Thread David L. Johnson
Original Message Subject:Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 12:22:19 -0400 From: David L. Johnson david.john...@lehigh.edu To: Wolfgang Keller felip...@gmx.net On 08/21/2013 11:45 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: And I

Re: Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-21 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:49 PM, David L. Johnson d...@lehigh.edu wrote: Original Message Subject: Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 12:22:19 -0400 From: David L. Johnson david.john...@lehigh.edu david.john...@lehigh.edu

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-21 Thread Les Denham
On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:13:23 -0700 Jerry wrote: > > On Aug 18, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Les Denham wrote: > > > My general approach to getting a LyX document into Word format is > > to us the LyXHTML export, import the exported file into > > LibreOffice,

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-21 Thread stefano franchi
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: > > Since all the typographic algorithms of TeX (linebreaking etc.) are > well-documented open-source, I always wondered why none of the more > reasonable document processors has ever implemented them. Wordperfect > could

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-21 Thread Wolfgang Keller
> BTW, not to tamper enthusiasms, but the "standard" output of > LaTeX/TeX is not quite (yet) at the level that a professional > typesetter would produce. Obviously, an experienced competent human being will (almost) always be able to deliver better results than *any* algorithm. But since I am a

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-21 Thread stefano franchi
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: > > > And I say this as a LyX-only writer for the past 15 years or so. > > The first public LyX version was when? Can't have been much longer > than 10 years ago. Way earlier than that. I switched to Lyx after I

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-21 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 6:53 PM, stefano franchi wrote: >> > And I say this as a LyX-only writer for the past 15 years or so. >> >> The first public LyX version was when? Can't have been much longer >> than 10 years ago. > > Way earlier than that. I switched to Lyx

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-21 Thread stefano franchi
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote: > On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 6:53 PM, stefano franchi > wrote: > >> > And I say this as a LyX-only writer for the past 15 years or so. > >> > >> The first public LyX version was when? Can't

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-21 Thread Chris Menzel
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 11:53 AM, stefano franchi wrote: > On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: > >> >> > And I say this as a LyX-only writer for the past 15 years or so. >> >> The first public LyX version was when? Can't have

Fwd: Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-21 Thread David L. Johnson
Original Message Subject:Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 12:22:19 -0400 From: David L. Johnson <david.john...@lehigh.edu> To: Wolfgang Keller <felip...@gmx.net> On 08/21/2013 11:45 AM, Wolfgang

Re: Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-21 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:49 PM, David L. Johnson <d...@lehigh.edu> wrote: > > Original Message ---- Subject: Re: Question: Using LyX as > your daily word processor Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 12:22:19 -0400 From: David > L. Johnson <david.john...@lehigh.edu> &

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-20 Thread Wolfgang Keller
I forgot to mention one minus, btw: Compared to XML, with LyX/LaTeX you can't *enforce* compliance of documents with a given structure, like with XML schemas and validating editors. That can be a nuisance in an environment with several authors. I literally cannot use Word or its clones for

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-20 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Wolfgang Keller felip...@gmx.net wrote: For beamer I still prefer Texworks. The last time I tried, I couldn't get the overlays to work *exactly* the way I wanted them with LyX, this is one thing that's just much easier with a source-level editor. I do use LyX

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-20 Thread Wolfgang Keller
The only case where I still prefer to use LO over LyX is generation of documents from databases. That I do with LaTeX and Perl (such as pulling out VAT out of my accounting package SQL-Ledger and printing it onto the scanned form :-)-O That's exactly why I prefer to use LO for such

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-20 Thread Jerry
On Aug 18, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Les Denham lden...@hal-pc.org wrote: My general approach to getting a LyX document into Word format is to us the LyXHTML export, import the exported file into LibreOffice, fix the inevitable problems, and save in DOCX format. How do you import the XHTML from

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-20 Thread Wolfgang Keller
I forgot to mention one minus, btw: Compared to XML, with LyX/LaTeX you can't *enforce* compliance of documents with a given structure, like with XML schemas and validating editors. That can be a nuisance in an environment with several authors. I literally cannot use Word or its clones for

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-20 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Wolfgang Keller felip...@gmx.net wrote: For beamer I still prefer Texworks. The last time I tried, I couldn't get the overlays to work *exactly* the way I wanted them with LyX, this is one thing that's just much easier with a source-level editor. I do use LyX

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-20 Thread Wolfgang Keller
The only case where I still prefer to use LO over LyX is generation of documents from databases. That I do with LaTeX and Perl (such as pulling out VAT out of my accounting package SQL-Ledger and printing it onto the scanned form :-)-O That's exactly why I prefer to use LO for such

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-20 Thread Jerry
On Aug 18, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Les Denham lden...@hal-pc.org wrote: My general approach to getting a LyX document into Word format is to us the LyXHTML export, import the exported file into LibreOffice, fix the inevitable problems, and save in DOCX format. How do you import the XHTML from

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-20 Thread Wolfgang Keller
I forgot to mention one "minus", btw: Compared to XML, with LyX/LaTeX you can't *enforce* compliance of documents with a given structure, like with XML schemas and validating editors. That can be a nuisance in an environment with several authors. > I literally cannot use Word or its clones for

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-20 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: > For beamer I still prefer Texworks. The last time I tried, I couldn't > get the overlays to work *exactly* the way I wanted them with LyX, this > is one thing that's just much easier with a source-level editor. > > I do

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