Re: Miktex package management inadequate, want to transition to TexLive.

[Paul A. Rubin]

On 11/02/2016 04:00 PM, Paul Johnson wrote:

As long as the MikTeX server is awake and answering, you can rest easy.

It just so happens that whenever I need MikTeX to work for a workshop,
the server gets turned off/taken down.

In the design of MikTeX, the package installer cannot retrieve package
from other CTAN servers without first checking with that one MikTeX
server.  If anybody thinks that I'm not correct, please speak up.  The
links I provided on the original post explain that is the case.

Paul: Are you saying you are unable to change which mirror you use 
(https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/56783/how-can-i-change-the-package-repository)?


Paul

Re: Miktex package management inadequate, want to transition to TexLive.

[Paul Johnson]

As long as the MikTeX server is awake and answering, you can rest easy.

It just so happens that whenever I need MikTeX to work for a workshop,
the server gets turned off/taken down.

In the design of MikTeX, the package installer cannot retrieve package
from other CTAN servers without first checking with that one MikTeX
server.  If anybody thinks that I'm not correct, please speak up.  The
links I provided on the original post explain that is the case.

Over the years, we have had a lot of hassles with MikTeX and
inabilility to get packages for new LaTeX files.  Its just better to
have all of them with TeXLive.  If a user walks in with a file that
depends on 10 classes I've never heard of, it is more likely to work
now.

The only part I've not worked out yet is spell checking and using the
Thesaurus.  But I will try harder later.

On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Roberto Fanciulli  wrote:
> I have uninstalled MiKTeX 2.9 and later also LyX 2.2.2.
> Then I reinstalled MiKTeX2.9 and updated packages.
> Finally I reinstalled LyX2.2.2.
> Currently it seems that everything works.
>
> (o.s.: Windows 10)
> Roberto
>
> 2016-11-02 6:24 GMT+01:00 UD :
>>
>> On 11/02/2016 05:56 AM, Paul Johnson wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> It worked once. Failed next two times.
>>>
>>> I'm putting it in the rearview mirror.
>>>
>>> pj
>>> Paul Johnson
>>> http://pj.freefaculty.org
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 29, 2016 2:27 PM, "Andrew Parsloe" >> > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 29/10/2016 7:35 p.m., CarLaTeX wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> 2016-10-29 8:09 GMT+02:00 Paul Johnson >> 
>>> >>:
>>>
>>> I wonder if Windows users see this problem in MikTeX
>>> regularly. I'm a
>>> Linux user, but I try to help the Windows students around
>>> here.
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Paul E. Johnson http://pj.freefaculty.org
>>> Director, Center for Research Methods and Data Analysis
>>> http://crmda.ku.edu
>>>
>>> To write to me directly, please address me at pauljohn at
>>> ku.edu 
>>> .
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm using LyX (various version, now 2.2.2) with MiKTeX (2.9)
>>> on Windows
>>> (10) since April 2015 with no problems.
>>> Today the site is down but you should only have to wait few
>>> hours.
>>> Bye!
>>>
>>> Carla
>>>
>>>
>>> Yesterday, like others, I couldn't update MiKTeX. This morning
>>> (8.20 a.m. New Zealand time) everything proceeded smoothly.
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>> ---
>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus 
>>>
>>
>> I used to use MikTex under Windows, but several years ago, when I switched
>> to Linux, which uses TexLive, I switched to TexLive under Windows too, and
>> it has worked very well.  I liked the MikTex package manager better than
>> TLMGR, but it was a small price to pay for uniformity, stability and
>> continued support.
>>
>> Ehud Kaplan
>>
>> --
>>
>



-- 
Paul E. Johnson   http://pj.freefaculty.org
Director, Center for Research Methods and Data Analysis http://crmda.ku.edu

To write to me directly, please address me at pauljohn at ku.edu.

Re: Miktex package management inadequate, want to transition to TexLive.

[Roberto Fanciulli]

I have uninstalled MiKTeX 2.9 and later also LyX 2.2.2.
Then I reinstalled MiKTeX2.9 and updated packages.
Finally I reinstalled LyX2.2.2.
Currently it seems that everything works.

(o.s.: Windows 10)
Roberto

2016-11-02 6:24 GMT+01:00 UD :

> On 11/02/2016 05:56 AM, Paul Johnson wrote:
>
>>
>> It worked once. Failed next two times.
>>
>> I'm putting it in the rearview mirror.
>>
>> pj
>> Paul Johnson
>> http://pj.freefaculty.org
>>
>>
>> On Oct 29, 2016 2:27 PM, "Andrew Parsloe"  apars...@clear.net.nz>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 29/10/2016 7:35 p.m., CarLaTeX wrote:
>>
>>
>> 2016-10-29 8:09 GMT+02:00 Paul Johnson > 
>> >>:
>>
>> I wonder if Windows users see this problem in MikTeX
>> regularly. I'm a
>> Linux user, but I try to help the Windows students around
>> here.
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>
>> --
>> Paul E. Johnson http://pj.freefaculty.org
>> Director, Center for Research Methods and Data Analysis
>> http://crmda.ku.edu
>>
>> To write to me directly, please address me at pauljohn at
>> ku.edu 
>> .
>>
>>
>> I'm using LyX (various version, now 2.2.2) with MiKTeX (2.9)
>> on Windows
>> (10) since April 2015 with no problems.
>> Today the site is down but you should only have to wait few hours.
>> Bye!
>>
>> Carla
>>
>>
>> Yesterday, like others, I couldn't update MiKTeX. This morning
>> (8.20 a.m. New Zealand time) everything proceeded smoothly.
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> ---
>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus 
>>
>>
> I used to use MikTex under Windows, but several years ago, when I switched
> to Linux, which uses TexLive, I switched to TexLive under Windows too, and
> it has worked very well.  I liked the MikTex package manager better than
> TLMGR, but it was a small price to pay for uniformity, stability and
> continued support.
>
> Ehud Kaplan
>
> --
>
>

Re: Miktex package management inadequate, want to transition to TexLive.

[UD]

On 11/02/2016 05:56 AM, Paul Johnson wrote:


It worked once. Failed next two times.

I'm putting it in the rearview mirror.

pj
Paul Johnson
http://pj.freefaculty.org


On Oct 29, 2016 2:27 PM, "Andrew Parsloe" > wrote:




On 29/10/2016 7:35 p.m., CarLaTeX wrote:


2016-10-29 8:09 GMT+02:00 Paul Johnson 
>>:

I wonder if Windows users see this problem in MikTeX
regularly. I'm a
Linux user, but I try to help the Windows students around
here.

[...]


--
Paul E. Johnson http://pj.freefaculty.org
Director, Center for Research Methods and Data Analysis
http://crmda.ku.edu

To write to me directly, please address me at pauljohn at
ku.edu 
.


I'm using LyX (various version, now 2.2.2) with MiKTeX (2.9)
on Windows
(10) since April 2015 with no problems.
Today the site is down but you should only have to wait few hours.
Bye!

Carla


Yesterday, like others, I couldn't update MiKTeX. This morning
(8.20 a.m. New Zealand time) everything proceeded smoothly.

Andrew

---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus 



I used to use MikTex under Windows, but several years ago, when I 
switched to Linux, which uses TexLive, I switched to TexLive under 
Windows too, and it has worked very well.  I liked the MikTex package 
manager better than TLMGR, but it was a small price to pay for 
uniformity, stability and continued support.


Ehud Kaplan

--

Re: Miktex package management inadequate, want to transition to TexLive.

[Paul Johnson]

It worked once. Failed next two times.

I'm putting it in the rearview mirror.

pj
Paul Johnson
http://pj.freefaculty.org

On Oct 29, 2016 2:27 PM, "Andrew Parsloe"  wrote:

>
>
> On 29/10/2016 7:35 p.m., CarLaTeX wrote:
>
>>
>> 2016-10-29 8:09 GMT+02:00 Paul Johnson > >:
>>
>> I wonder if Windows users see this problem in MikTeX regularly. I'm a
>> Linux user, but I try to help the Windows students around here.
>>
>> [...]
>
>>
>> --
>> Paul E. Johnson http://pj.freefaculty.org
>> Director, Center for Research Methods and Data Analysis
>> http://crmda.ku.edu
>>
>> To write to me directly, please address me at pauljohn at ku.edu
>> .
>>
>>
>> I'm using LyX (various version, now 2.2.2) with MiKTeX (2.9) on Windows
>> (10) since April 2015 with no problems.
>> Today the site is down but you should only have to wait few hours.
>> Bye!
>>
>> Carla
>>
>
> Yesterday, like others, I couldn't update MiKTeX. This morning (8.20 a.m.
> New Zealand time) everything proceeded smoothly.
>
> Andrew
>
> ---
> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
> https://www.avast.com/antivirus
>
>

Re: Miktex package management inadequate, want to transition to TexLive.

[Paul A. Rubin]

On 10/29/2016 01:00 PM, Paul Johnson wrote:


On the machines where I've done both installs, it appears to me that 
pdf compile with TexLive is quite a bit faster. Have no idea why, but 
others have made same claim.


TexLive is a surprisingly slow install. Even if you put the whole iso 
on disk, and disconnect entirely from the internet, the install takes 
1 hour.  I've done it on 3 machines during the night.  At first I 
thought it was slow because it was trying to pull updates or 
something, but no.  It is just a slow install.


Aside from that, it appears fine to me.  Make sure texlive/bin/win32 
is put in the path, all can work. Previously installed LyX still looks 
for MikTex, but you can make sure LyX knows is supposed to use TeXLive 
if you remove LyX and re-install.  It will ask which LaTeX to use.  
Seems like we ought to have a post-install config setting there, but 
don't know how. (PS:  don't use the LyX Bundle for LyX).


Only puzzle I did not work out so far is how to get spell check and 
other pieces from LyX bundle to work with LyX installed separately.   
If the LyX website pointed at the installers for spellcheckers and 
JabRef and whatever comes in bundle, with some install tips, it would 
be nice.


Since I don't do Windows much, I ask a lot of stupid questions

I haven't seen any stupid questions yet.

I used to use MiKTeX (on Windows) and now use TeXLive (on Linux). I 
haven't noticed any significant difference in document compilation 
times, but that's conflated with system speed and operating system 
(Windows, at least back when I was using it, put more of a strain on the 
CPU and memory than Linux did on the machines that I dual booted.) My 
main reasons for preferring MiKTeX to TeXLive are (a) I prefer the 
package manager that comes with MiKTeX and (b) MiKTeX is more granular. 
By the latter, I mean that after loading the base distribution, the 
MiKTeX package manager lets you install individual packages easily, 
rather than having to install sizable bundles. I'm not sure, since I 
don't use tlmgr, but my impression is that if you try to use to install 
joesmacros.sty, you end up installing whatever large bundle includes 
joesmacros.sty. That may account for the extensive installation times 
you noted.


Linux systems typically include a spellchecker as part of the initial 
operating system installation. On Windows, you need to add one (and also 
a thesaurus, if you're so inclined). IIRC, I used the Windows port of 
aspell  for spell-checking. I don't have a 
thesaurus recommendation, since I don't use one. I just make words up, 
or misuse existing ones , as needed.


Paul

Re: Miktex package management inadequate, want to transition to TexLive.

[Andrew Parsloe]

On 29/10/2016 7:35 p.m., CarLaTeX wrote:


2016-10-29 8:09 GMT+02:00 Paul Johnson >:

I wonder if Windows users see this problem in MikTeX regularly. I'm a
Linux user, but I try to help the Windows students around here.


[...]


--
Paul E. Johnson http://pj.freefaculty.org
Director, Center for Research Methods and Data Analysis
http://crmda.ku.edu

To write to me directly, please address me at pauljohn at ku.edu
.


I'm using LyX (various version, now 2.2.2) with MiKTeX (2.9) on Windows
(10) since April 2015 with no problems.
Today the site is down but you should only have to wait few hours.
Bye!

Carla


Yesterday, like others, I couldn't update MiKTeX. This morning (8.20 
a.m. New Zealand time) everything proceeded smoothly.


Andrew

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Re: Miktex package management inadequate, want to transition to TexLive.

[Roberto Fanciulli]

I appreciate your response and suggestions.

In my system I also use TeXLive with WinEdt and at this point I would agree
to use even TeXLive with LyX.
Change the path in LyX from MiKTeX to TeXLive is sufficient, as you say?

Thank you.

2016-10-29 19:00 GMT+02:00 Paul Johnson :

> MikTeX server intermittent this morning. It worked on one computer, fails
> on other 3.  Suspect that server is just flaky.
>
> There are good arguments for installing TexLive.  Its maintained by a
> community, not just one person, being the most important among them.  Plus,
> with TexLive we are consistent across platforms, my Linux workstation and
> the Macintosh ones seem same.
>
> On the machines where I've done both installs, it appears to me that pdf
> compile with TexLive is quite a bit faster. Have no idea why, but others
> have made same claim.
>
> TexLive is a surprisingly slow install. Even if you put the whole iso on
> disk, and disconnect entirely from the internet, the install takes 1 hour.
> I've done it on 3 machines during the night.  At first I thought it was
> slow because it was trying to pull updates or something, but no.  It is
> just a slow install.
>
> Aside from that, it appears fine to me.  Make sure texlive/bin/win32 is
> put in the path, all can work. Previously installed LyX still looks for
> MikTex, but you can make sure LyX knows is supposed to use TeXLive if you
> remove LyX and re-install.  It will ask which LaTeX to use.  Seems like we
> ought to have a post-install config setting there, but don't know how.
> (PS:  don't use the LyX Bundle for LyX).
>
> Only puzzle I did not work out so far is how to get spell check and other
> pieces from LyX bundle to work with LyX installed separately.   If the LyX
> website pointed at the installers for spellcheckers and JabRef and whatever
> comes in bundle, with some install tips, it would be nice.
>
> Since I don't do Windows much, I ask a lot of stupid questions
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 29, 2016 at 11:46 AM, Roberto Fanciulli 
> wrote:
>
>> By several days the Paul Johnson problem is also my problem and I do not find
>> a solution.
>> I reinstalled MiKTeX many times, but MiKTeX Package, and MiKTeX Update do
>> not work (they do not find any package repository).
>>
>> [image: Immagine incorporata 1]
>> The two alternatives that have remained are:
>> 1) uninstall MiKTeX, uninstall and reinstall LyX2.2.2 bundle version (LyX
>> -222-Bundle-2.exe) hoping for a successful installation of MiKTeX too;
>> 2) setting LyX to TeXLive and forget MiKTeX.
>>
>>
>> Tips for other less drastic solutions already tested?
>>
>> (My system: LyX2.2.2 with MiKTeX2.9 on Windows 10)
>>
>> Roberto
>>
>> 2016-10-29 8:35 GMT+02:00 CarLaTeX :
>>
>>>
>>> 2016-10-29 8:09 GMT+02:00 Paul Johnson :
>>>
 I wonder if Windows users see this problem in MikTeX regularly. I'm a
 Linux user, but I try to help the Windows students around here.

 I've done several LyX installs in Windows systems while preparing for
 a workshop this week.  I think the LyX-2.2.2 installation of MikTeX
 has some improvements. It pulls in quite a few more packages when it
 first starts.

 Even though the LyX bundle installer works OK, I'm frustrated with
 MikTeX. Today, I experience the problem that my MikTeX can't install
 new packages on any of these systems. Others have described it
 http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/251242/unable-to-conn
 ect-to-repository-in-miktex-2-9.

 MikTeX cannot retrieve the list of repositories from the central
 MikTeX server.   Even if the package-server I want to use is online,
 the MikTeX routine fails. This has me angry enough now to use TexLive
 instead.

 TexLive  is a big download, but it seems to come with all of the
 packages, no problem. It does not have the on-the-fly install, but
 maybe I don't care.

 I don't want to remove MikTex yet, I don't think I should have to.

 I had a little trouble getting LyX to use TexLive, however.  I thought
 it should be sufficient to put the TexLive bin\win32 folder in the
 path ahead of MikTex\bin, but that was not sufficient.

 In LyX itself, the preferences have a path variable in which I must
 delete MikTeX and replace it with TeXLive.

 This seems to work within my user account.

 I'd like to make this change in LyX on a system-wide basis, so that
 all new users who try LyX will get TeXLive. Know what I mean?

 Before I tell students who maintain their own PCs, I wonder if there
 are problems ahead. Do you have some ideas?

 --
 Paul E. Johnson   http://pj.freefaculty.org
 Director, Center for Research Methods and Data Analysis
 http://crmda.ku.edu

 To write to me directly, please address me at pauljohn at ku.edu.

>>>
>>> I'm using LyX (various version, now 2.2.2) 

Re: Miktex package management inadequate, want to transition to TexLive.

[Paul Johnson]

MikTeX server intermittent this morning. It worked on one computer, fails
on other 3.  Suspect that server is just flaky.

There are good arguments for installing TexLive.  Its maintained by a
community, not just one person, being the most important among them.  Plus,
with TexLive we are consistent across platforms, my Linux workstation and
the Macintosh ones seem same.

On the machines where I've done both installs, it appears to me that pdf
compile with TexLive is quite a bit faster. Have no idea why, but others
have made same claim.

TexLive is a surprisingly slow install. Even if you put the whole iso on
disk, and disconnect entirely from the internet, the install takes 1 hour.
I've done it on 3 machines during the night.  At first I thought it was
slow because it was trying to pull updates or something, but no.  It is
just a slow install.

Aside from that, it appears fine to me.  Make sure texlive/bin/win32 is put
in the path, all can work. Previously installed LyX still looks for MikTex,
but you can make sure LyX knows is supposed to use TeXLive if you remove
LyX and re-install.  It will ask which LaTeX to use.  Seems like we ought
to have a post-install config setting there, but don't know how. (PS:
don't use the LyX Bundle for LyX).

Only puzzle I did not work out so far is how to get spell check and other
pieces from LyX bundle to work with LyX installed separately.   If the LyX
website pointed at the installers for spellcheckers and JabRef and whatever
comes in bundle, with some install tips, it would be nice.

Since I don't do Windows much, I ask a lot of stupid questions


On Sat, Oct 29, 2016 at 11:46 AM, Roberto Fanciulli 
wrote:

> By several days the Paul Johnson problem is also my problem and I do not find
> a solution.
> I reinstalled MiKTeX many times, but MiKTeX Package, and MiKTeX Update do
> not work (they do not find any package repository).
>
> [image: Immagine incorporata 1]
> The two alternatives that have remained are:
> 1) uninstall MiKTeX, uninstall and reinstall LyX2.2.2 bundle version (LyX-
> 222-Bundle-2.exe) hoping for a successful installation of MiKTeX too;
> 2) setting LyX to TeXLive and forget MiKTeX.
>
>
> Tips for other less drastic solutions already tested?
>
> (My system: LyX2.2.2 with MiKTeX2.9 on Windows 10)
>
> Roberto
>
> 2016-10-29 8:35 GMT+02:00 CarLaTeX :
>
>>
>> 2016-10-29 8:09 GMT+02:00 Paul Johnson :
>>
>>> I wonder if Windows users see this problem in MikTeX regularly. I'm a
>>> Linux user, but I try to help the Windows students around here.
>>>
>>> I've done several LyX installs in Windows systems while preparing for
>>> a workshop this week.  I think the LyX-2.2.2 installation of MikTeX
>>> has some improvements. It pulls in quite a few more packages when it
>>> first starts.
>>>
>>> Even though the LyX bundle installer works OK, I'm frustrated with
>>> MikTeX. Today, I experience the problem that my MikTeX can't install
>>> new packages on any of these systems. Others have described it
>>> http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/251242/unable-to-conn
>>> ect-to-repository-in-miktex-2-9.
>>>
>>> MikTeX cannot retrieve the list of repositories from the central
>>> MikTeX server.   Even if the package-server I want to use is online,
>>> the MikTeX routine fails. This has me angry enough now to use TexLive
>>> instead.
>>>
>>> TexLive  is a big download, but it seems to come with all of the
>>> packages, no problem. It does not have the on-the-fly install, but
>>> maybe I don't care.
>>>
>>> I don't want to remove MikTex yet, I don't think I should have to.
>>>
>>> I had a little trouble getting LyX to use TexLive, however.  I thought
>>> it should be sufficient to put the TexLive bin\win32 folder in the
>>> path ahead of MikTex\bin, but that was not sufficient.
>>>
>>> In LyX itself, the preferences have a path variable in which I must
>>> delete MikTeX and replace it with TeXLive.
>>>
>>> This seems to work within my user account.
>>>
>>> I'd like to make this change in LyX on a system-wide basis, so that
>>> all new users who try LyX will get TeXLive. Know what I mean?
>>>
>>> Before I tell students who maintain their own PCs, I wonder if there
>>> are problems ahead. Do you have some ideas?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Paul E. Johnson   http://pj.freefaculty.org
>>> Director, Center for Research Methods and Data Analysis
>>> http://crmda.ku.edu
>>>
>>> To write to me directly, please address me at pauljohn at ku.edu.
>>>
>>
>> I'm using LyX (various version, now 2.2.2) with MiKTeX (2.9) on Windows
>> (10) since April 2015 with no problems.
>> Today the site is down but you should only have to wait few hours.
>> Bye!
>>
>> Carla
>>
>
>


-- 
Paul E. Johnson   http://pj.freefaculty.org
Director, Center for Research Methods and Data Analysis http://crmda.ku.edu

To write to me directly, please address me at pauljohn at ku.edu.

Re: Miktex package management inadequate, want to transition to TexLive.

[Roberto Fanciulli]

By several days the Paul Johnson problem is also my problem and I do not find
a solution.
I reinstalled MiKTeX many times, but MiKTeX Package, and MiKTeX Update do
not work (they do not find any package repository).

[image: Immagine incorporata 1]
The two alternatives that have remained are:
1) uninstall MiKTeX, uninstall and reinstall LyX2.2.2 bundle version (LyX-
222-Bundle-2.exe) hoping for a successful installation of MiKTeX too;
2) setting LyX to TeXLive and forget MiKTeX.


Tips for other less drastic solutions already tested?

(My system: LyX2.2.2 with MiKTeX2.9 on Windows 10)

Roberto

2016-10-29 8:35 GMT+02:00 CarLaTeX :

>
> 2016-10-29 8:09 GMT+02:00 Paul Johnson :
>
>> I wonder if Windows users see this problem in MikTeX regularly. I'm a
>> Linux user, but I try to help the Windows students around here.
>>
>> I've done several LyX installs in Windows systems while preparing for
>> a workshop this week.  I think the LyX-2.2.2 installation of MikTeX
>> has some improvements. It pulls in quite a few more packages when it
>> first starts.
>>
>> Even though the LyX bundle installer works OK, I'm frustrated with
>> MikTeX. Today, I experience the problem that my MikTeX can't install
>> new packages on any of these systems. Others have described it
>> http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/251242/unable-to-conn
>> ect-to-repository-in-miktex-2-9.
>>
>> MikTeX cannot retrieve the list of repositories from the central
>> MikTeX server.   Even if the package-server I want to use is online,
>> the MikTeX routine fails. This has me angry enough now to use TexLive
>> instead.
>>
>> TexLive  is a big download, but it seems to come with all of the
>> packages, no problem. It does not have the on-the-fly install, but
>> maybe I don't care.
>>
>> I don't want to remove MikTex yet, I don't think I should have to.
>>
>> I had a little trouble getting LyX to use TexLive, however.  I thought
>> it should be sufficient to put the TexLive bin\win32 folder in the
>> path ahead of MikTex\bin, but that was not sufficient.
>>
>> In LyX itself, the preferences have a path variable in which I must
>> delete MikTeX and replace it with TeXLive.
>>
>> This seems to work within my user account.
>>
>> I'd like to make this change in LyX on a system-wide basis, so that
>> all new users who try LyX will get TeXLive. Know what I mean?
>>
>> Before I tell students who maintain their own PCs, I wonder if there
>> are problems ahead. Do you have some ideas?
>>
>> --
>> Paul E. Johnson   http://pj.freefaculty.org
>> Director, Center for Research Methods and Data Analysis
>> http://crmda.ku.edu
>>
>> To write to me directly, please address me at pauljohn at ku.edu.
>>
>
> I'm using LyX (various version, now 2.2.2) with MiKTeX (2.9) on Windows
> (10) since April 2015 with no problems.
> Today the site is down but you should only have to wait few hours.
> Bye!
>
> Carla
>

Re: Miktex package management inadequate, want to transition to TexLive.

[CarLaTeX]

2016-10-29 8:09 GMT+02:00 Paul Johnson :

> I wonder if Windows users see this problem in MikTeX regularly. I'm a
> Linux user, but I try to help the Windows students around here.
>
> I've done several LyX installs in Windows systems while preparing for
> a workshop this week.  I think the LyX-2.2.2 installation of MikTeX
> has some improvements. It pulls in quite a few more packages when it
> first starts.
>
> Even though the LyX bundle installer works OK, I'm frustrated with
> MikTeX. Today, I experience the problem that my MikTeX can't install
> new packages on any of these systems. Others have described it
> http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/251242/unable-to-
> connect-to-repository-in-miktex-2-9.
>
> MikTeX cannot retrieve the list of repositories from the central
> MikTeX server.   Even if the package-server I want to use is online,
> the MikTeX routine fails. This has me angry enough now to use TexLive
> instead.
>
> TexLive  is a big download, but it seems to come with all of the
> packages, no problem. It does not have the on-the-fly install, but
> maybe I don't care.
>
> I don't want to remove MikTex yet, I don't think I should have to.
>
> I had a little trouble getting LyX to use TexLive, however.  I thought
> it should be sufficient to put the TexLive bin\win32 folder in the
> path ahead of MikTex\bin, but that was not sufficient.
>
> In LyX itself, the preferences have a path variable in which I must
> delete MikTeX and replace it with TeXLive.
>
> This seems to work within my user account.
>
> I'd like to make this change in LyX on a system-wide basis, so that
> all new users who try LyX will get TeXLive. Know what I mean?
>
> Before I tell students who maintain their own PCs, I wonder if there
> are problems ahead. Do you have some ideas?
>
> --
> Paul E. Johnson   http://pj.freefaculty.org
> Director, Center for Research Methods and Data Analysis
> http://crmda.ku.edu
>
> To write to me directly, please address me at pauljohn at ku.edu.
>

I'm using LyX (various version, now 2.2.2) with MiKTeX (2.9) on Windows
(10) since April 2015 with no problems.
Today the site is down but you should only have to wait few hours.
Bye!

Carla

Miktex package management inadequate, want to transition to TexLive.

[Paul Johnson]

I wonder if Windows users see this problem in MikTeX regularly. I'm a
Linux user, but I try to help the Windows students around here.

I've done several LyX installs in Windows systems while preparing for
a workshop this week.  I think the LyX-2.2.2 installation of MikTeX
has some improvements. It pulls in quite a few more packages when it
first starts.

Even though the LyX bundle installer works OK, I'm frustrated with
MikTeX. Today, I experience the problem that my MikTeX can't install
new packages on any of these systems. Others have described it
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/251242/unable-to-connect-to-repository-in-miktex-2-9.

MikTeX cannot retrieve the list of repositories from the central
MikTeX server.   Even if the package-server I want to use is online,
the MikTeX routine fails. This has me angry enough now to use TexLive
instead.

TexLive  is a big download, but it seems to come with all of the
packages, no problem. It does not have the on-the-fly install, but
maybe I don't care.

I don't want to remove MikTex yet, I don't think I should have to.

I had a little trouble getting LyX to use TexLive, however.  I thought
it should be sufficient to put the TexLive bin\win32 folder in the
path ahead of MikTex\bin, but that was not sufficient.

In LyX itself, the preferences have a path variable in which I must
delete MikTeX and replace it with TeXLive.

This seems to work within my user account.

I'd like to make this change in LyX on a system-wide basis, so that
all new users who try LyX will get TeXLive. Know what I mean?

Before I tell students who maintain their own PCs, I wonder if there
are problems ahead. Do you have some ideas?

-- 
Paul E. Johnson   http://pj.freefaculty.org
Director, Center for Research Methods and Data Analysis http://crmda.ku.edu

To write to me directly, please address me at pauljohn at ku.edu.