Re: foils questions

2001-01-15 Thread luc tAESCH

Allan Rae wrote:
 
 On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, luc tAESCH wrote:
 
  Dekel Tsur wrote:
  
   On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 03:01:32PM +0100, luc wrote:
im using foils for the first time.
   
 
  2) in landscape mode, my slides are cut on the left. is it a gv issue ?
  (exporting pdf, and viewing under another reader seems ok) (i did  try
  dvips options, n o result).
  reading the extended featuire was not clear for me.
 
  can i set the landscape paper , then use foilsherader, or should i do
  rotatefoilheader ?
 
 If you set landscape paper then foilheads are printed on the landscape
 paper.  If you don't set landscape then rotatefoilhead prints in
 landscape.  So you see, if you want all your foilheads to be printed in
 landscape mode you should set the landscape paper option.

so i did A4, landscape, and this is fine when i use psstill to rotatem
an d then use acroread

but gv still cut the right part (like it would be a portrait margin).
the text is in there, as u can see in portrait mode, the bottom part is
there. so ot seems to be a gv part.

am i the only one to have this issue (release of gv in M 7.2), or is  it
a known issue ?

despite i have a workaround, im using a shareware (ie not OSS), and it s
a two steps process, so its not a long term solution. 

 
   I _always_ use landscape and _only_
 use foilheads or shortfoilheads.  This works fine for me.

il do that.

 
  3) can i set the fonts i want per default, not only the one from
  layout/document lists ?
 
  thats something id liek to know soon, event in a negativ manner.
 
 You should be able to add some appropriate LaTeX or TeX command but don't
 ask me what it is you'll have to wait for Herbert to answer that one.

just for archive purpose, here is what i had to do to get good pdf for
acroread:

with pstill  : pstill -v   -R 270 -i  -s -F a4 -o Foils.pdf Foils.ps   

-v : verbose
-R 270 : rotate 270, to have correct lanscape on the screen  with
acroread.
-i -s : include the fonts in the pdf (i : non standard, s: standard)
(see later)
-F a4: out format. necessary to get propoer margin, cut otherwise.

note about fonts: once i installed psstill, i still had to modify the
linkallfnt script, which looks usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/* , when Mandrake
installs the T1 URW fonts in usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/*, and rerun
linkallfnt, (frank . for info)
then copy the (given) font_gscrpit_sub_table to font_sub_table.
to enable the urw equivalent of T1 standard fonts

cheers
for file in /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1/*
#/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/*



Re: foils questions

2001-01-15 Thread Tuukka Toivonen

On Sun, 14 Jan 2001, luc wrote:

 2) in landscape mode, my slides are cut on the left. is it a gv issue ?

Yes. It is a bug in all of {mgv,ghostview,gv} or ghostscript (probably in
the viewers, althought its surprising all of those have the same bug even
if they're based on same code).

To fix, run your postscript file through psutils, for example 
pstops '0' input.ps fixed.ps




Re: foils questions

2001-01-15 Thread luc tAESCH

Allan Rae wrote:
 
 On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, luc tAESCH wrote:
 
  Dekel Tsur wrote:
  
   On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 03:01:32PM +0100, luc wrote:
im using foils for the first time.
   
 
  2) in landscape mode, my slides are cut on the left. is it a gv issue ?
  (exporting pdf, and viewing under another reader seems ok) (i did  try
  dvips options, n o result).
  reading the extended featuire was not clear for me.
 
  can i set the landscape paper , then use foilsherader, or should i do
  rotatefoilheader ?
 
 If you set landscape paper then foilheads are printed on the landscape
 paper.  If you don't set landscape then rotatefoilhead prints in
 landscape.  So you see, if you want all your foilheads to be printed in
 landscape mode you should set the landscape paper option.

so i did A4, landscape, and this is fine when i use psstill to rotatem
an d then use acroread

but gv still cut the right part (like it would be a portrait margin).
the text is in there, as u can see in portrait mode, the bottom part is
there. so ot seems to be a gv part.

am i the only one to have this issue (release of gv in M 7.2), or is  it
a known issue ?

despite i have a workaround, im using a shareware (ie not OSS), and it s
a two steps process, so its not a long term solution. 

 
   I _always_ use landscape and _only_
 use foilheads or shortfoilheads.  This works fine for me.

il do that.

 
  3) can i set the fonts i want per default, not only the one from
  layout/document lists ?
 
  thats something id liek to know soon, event in a negativ manner.
 
 You should be able to add some appropriate LaTeX or TeX command but don't
 ask me what it is you'll have to wait for Herbert to answer that one.

just for archive purpose, here is what i had to do to get good pdf for
acroread:

with pstill  : pstill -v   -R 270 -i  -s -F a4 -o Foils.pdf Foils.ps   

-v : verbose
-R 270 : rotate 270, to have correct lanscape on the screen  with
acroread.
-i -s : include the fonts in the pdf (i : non standard, s: standard)
(see later)
-F a4: out format. necessary to get propoer margin, cut otherwise.

note about fonts: once i installed psstill, i still had to modify the
linkallfnt script, which looks usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/* , when Mandrake
installs the T1 URW fonts in usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/*, and rerun
linkallfnt, (frank . for info)
then copy the (given) font_gscrpit_sub_table to font_sub_table.
to enable the urw equivalent of T1 standard fonts

cheers
for file in /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1/*
#/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/*



Re: foils questions

2001-01-15 Thread Tuukka Toivonen

On Sun, 14 Jan 2001, luc wrote:

 2) in landscape mode, my slides are cut on the left. is it a gv issue ?

Yes. It is a bug in all of {mgv,ghostview,gv} or ghostscript (probably in
the viewers, althought its surprising all of those have the same bug even
if they're based on same code).

To fix, run your postscript file through psutils, for example 
pstops '0' input.ps fixed.ps




Re: foils questions

2001-01-15 Thread luc tAESCH

Allan Rae wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, luc tAESCH wrote:
> 
> > Dekel Tsur wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 03:01:32PM +0100, luc wrote:
> > > > im using foils for the first time.
> > > >
> >
> > 2) in landscape mode, my slides are cut on the left. is it a gv issue ?
> > (exporting pdf, and viewing under another reader seems ok) (i did  try
> > dvips options, n o result).
> > reading the extended featuire was not clear for me.
> >
> > can i set the landscape paper , then use foilsherader, or should i do
> > rotatefoilheader ?
> 
> If you set landscape paper then foilheads are printed on the landscape
> paper.  If you don't set landscape then rotatefoilhead prints in
> landscape.  So you see, if you want all your foilheads to be printed in
> landscape mode you should set the landscape paper option.

so i did A4, landscape, and this is fine when i use psstill to rotatem
an d then use acroread

but gv still cut the right part (like it would be a portrait margin).
the text is in there, as u can see in portrait mode, the bottom part is
there. so ot seems to be a gv part.

am i the only one to have this issue (release of gv in M 7.2), or is  it
a known issue ?

despite i have a workaround, im using a shareware (ie not OSS), and it s
a two steps process, so its not a long term solution. 

> 
>   I _always_ use landscape¹ and _only_
> use foilheads or shortfoilheads.  This works fine for me.

il do that.

> 
> > 3) can i set the fonts i want per default, not only the one from
> > layout/document lists ?
> >
> > thats something id liek to know soon, event in a negativ manner.
> 
> You should be able to add some appropriate LaTeX or TeX command but don't
> ask me what it is you'll have to wait for Herbert to answer that one.

just for archive purpose, here is what i had to do to get good pdf for
acroread:

with pstill  : pstill -v   -R 270 -i  -s -F a4 -o Foils.pdf Foils.ps   

-v : verbose
-R 270 : rotate 270, to have correct lanscape on the screen  with
acroread.
-i -s : include the fonts in the pdf (i : non standard, s: standard)
(see later)
-F a4: out format. necessary to get propoer margin, cut otherwise.

note about fonts: once i installed psstill, i still had to modify the
linkallfnt script, which looks usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/* , when Mandrake
installs the T1 URW fonts in usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/*, and rerun
linkallfnt, (frank . for info)
then copy the (given) font_gscrpit_sub_table to font_sub_table.
to enable the urw equivalent of T1 standard fonts

cheers
for file in /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1/*
#/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/*



Re: foils questions

2001-01-15 Thread Tuukka Toivonen

On Sun, 14 Jan 2001, luc wrote:

> 2) in landscape mode, my slides are cut on the left. is it a gv issue ?

Yes. It is a bug in all of {mgv,ghostview,gv} or ghostscript (probably in
the viewers, althought its surprising all of those have the same bug even
if they're based on same code).

To fix, run your postscript file through psutils, for example 
pstops '0' fixed.ps




Re: foils questions

2001-01-14 Thread luc tAESCH

Dekel Tsur wrote:
 
 On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 03:01:32PM +0100, luc wrote:
  im using foils for the first time.
 

2) in landscape mode, my slides are cut on the left. is it a gv issue ?
(exporting pdf, and viewing under another reader seems ok) (i did  try
dvips options, n o result).
reading the extended featuire was not clear for me.

can i set the landscape paper , then use foilsherader, or should i do
rotatefoilheader ?


all i found is to install pstill . any other know way ?

3) can i set the fonts i want per default, not only the one from
layout/document lists ?

thats something id liek to know soon, event in a negativ manner.


  5) i found a seminar style, but user list messages from november say its
  ongoing work. is it usable ? (most of my trial fails , as items are out
  of slide frame. supposely known issue ?)
 
 i found that the seminar style does not have a heading which is on a
fixed place on the slide . is that right.? any way to fix that with an
option, or latex trick ?

thanks anyway.
Luc



Re: foils questions

2001-01-14 Thread Allan Rae

On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, luc tAESCH wrote:

 Dekel Tsur wrote:
 
  On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 03:01:32PM +0100, luc wrote:
   im using foils for the first time.
  

 2) in landscape mode, my slides are cut on the left. is it a gv issue ?
 (exporting pdf, and viewing under another reader seems ok) (i did  try
 dvips options, n o result).
 reading the extended featuire was not clear for me.

 can i set the landscape paper , then use foilsherader, or should i do
 rotatefoilheader ?

If you set landscape paper then foilheads are printed on the landscape
paper.  If you don't set landscape then rotatefoilhead prints in
landscape.  So you see, if you want all your foilheads to be printed in
landscape mode you should set the landscape paper option.

The foils handling of landscape and rotated foils is definitely confusing
and many times you don't get quite what you'd expect -- I know I wrote the
FoilTeX docs in the Extended manual.  I _always_ use landscape and _only_
use foilheads or shortfoilheads.  This works fine for me.

 3) can i set the fonts i want per default, not only the one from
 layout/document lists ?

 thats something id liek to know soon, event in a negativ manner.

You should be able to add some appropriate LaTeX or TeX command but don't
ask me what it is you'll have to wait for Herbert to answer that one.

Allan. (ARRae)

 A simple tip for presenters is that you should never use more than about
  two thirds of a portrait page but if you use landscape pages you can
  fill them.  This is mainly due to the fact that people up the back of
  the room will still see the bottom of your foils.




Re: foils questions

2001-01-14 Thread luc tAESCH

Dekel Tsur wrote:
 
 On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 03:01:32PM +0100, luc wrote:
  im using foils for the first time.
 

2) in landscape mode, my slides are cut on the left. is it a gv issue ?
(exporting pdf, and viewing under another reader seems ok) (i did  try
dvips options, n o result).
reading the extended featuire was not clear for me.

can i set the landscape paper , then use foilsherader, or should i do
rotatefoilheader ?


all i found is to install pstill . any other know way ?

3) can i set the fonts i want per default, not only the one from
layout/document lists ?

thats something id liek to know soon, event in a negativ manner.


  5) i found a seminar style, but user list messages from november say its
  ongoing work. is it usable ? (most of my trial fails , as items are out
  of slide frame. supposely known issue ?)
 
 i found that the seminar style does not have a heading which is on a
fixed place on the slide . is that right.? any way to fix that with an
option, or latex trick ?

thanks anyway.
Luc



Re: foils questions

2001-01-14 Thread Allan Rae

On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, luc tAESCH wrote:

 Dekel Tsur wrote:
 
  On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 03:01:32PM +0100, luc wrote:
   im using foils for the first time.
  

 2) in landscape mode, my slides are cut on the left. is it a gv issue ?
 (exporting pdf, and viewing under another reader seems ok) (i did  try
 dvips options, n o result).
 reading the extended featuire was not clear for me.

 can i set the landscape paper , then use foilsherader, or should i do
 rotatefoilheader ?

If you set landscape paper then foilheads are printed on the landscape
paper.  If you don't set landscape then rotatefoilhead prints in
landscape.  So you see, if you want all your foilheads to be printed in
landscape mode you should set the landscape paper option.

The foils handling of landscape and rotated foils is definitely confusing
and many times you don't get quite what you'd expect -- I know I wrote the
FoilTeX docs in the Extended manual.  I _always_ use landscape and _only_
use foilheads or shortfoilheads.  This works fine for me.

 3) can i set the fonts i want per default, not only the one from
 layout/document lists ?

 thats something id liek to know soon, event in a negativ manner.

You should be able to add some appropriate LaTeX or TeX command but don't
ask me what it is you'll have to wait for Herbert to answer that one.

Allan. (ARRae)

 A simple tip for presenters is that you should never use more than about
  two thirds of a portrait page but if you use landscape pages you can
  fill them.  This is mainly due to the fact that people up the back of
  the room will still see the bottom of your foils.




Re: foils questions

2001-01-14 Thread luc tAESCH

Dekel Tsur wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 03:01:32PM +0100, luc wrote:
> > im using foils for the first time.
> >

2) in landscape mode, my slides are cut on the left. is it a gv issue ?
(exporting pdf, and viewing under another reader seems ok) (i did  try
dvips options, n o result).
reading the extended featuire was not clear for me.

can i set the landscape paper , then use foilsherader, or should i do
rotatefoilheader ?


all i found is to install pstill . any other know way ?

3) can i set the fonts i want per default, not only the one from
layout/document lists ?

thats something id liek to know soon, event in a negativ manner.


> > 5) i found a seminar style, but user list messages from november say its
> > ongoing work. is it usable ? (most of my trial fails , as items are out
> > of slide frame. supposely known issue ?)
> 
 i found that the seminar style does not have a heading which is on a
fixed place on the slide . is that right.? any way to fix that with an
option, or latex trick ?

thanks anyway.
Luc



Re: foils questions

2001-01-14 Thread Allan Rae

On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, luc tAESCH wrote:

> Dekel Tsur wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 03:01:32PM +0100, luc wrote:
> > > im using foils for the first time.
> > >
>
> 2) in landscape mode, my slides are cut on the left. is it a gv issue ?
> (exporting pdf, and viewing under another reader seems ok) (i did  try
> dvips options, n o result).
> reading the extended featuire was not clear for me.
>
> can i set the landscape paper , then use foilsherader, or should i do
> rotatefoilheader ?

If you set landscape paper then foilheads are printed on the landscape
paper.  If you don't set landscape then rotatefoilhead prints in
landscape.  So you see, if you want all your foilheads to be printed in
landscape mode you should set the landscape paper option.

The foils handling of landscape and rotated foils is definitely confusing
and many times you don't get quite what you'd expect -- I know I wrote the
FoilTeX docs in the Extended manual.  I _always_ use landscape¹ and _only_
use foilheads or shortfoilheads.  This works fine for me.

> 3) can i set the fonts i want per default, not only the one from
> layout/document lists ?
>
> thats something id liek to know soon, event in a negativ manner.

You should be able to add some appropriate LaTeX or TeX command but don't
ask me what it is you'll have to wait for Herbert to answer that one.

Allan. (ARRae)

¹ A simple tip for presenters is that you should never use more than about
  two thirds of a portrait page but if you use landscape pages you can
  fill them.  This is mainly due to the fact that people up the back of
  the room will still see the bottom of your foils.