ok. my 2 cents after quick reading this long thread
- clearly, submission should be asked on install of macports, either opt-in
or opt-out. I'm pretty sure It's a legal constraint in some places (like
european union). w opt-in, there is a risk to have little people but it's
probably cleaner.
It
Hi,
First of all, I would like to express my gratitude to Clemens for
getting this project up and running. I really like the website. There
is definitely a lot that can be improved, but it's already really nice
as it is now.
It would probably make sense to discuss and collect different ideas
On 22 Mar 2014, at 20:55 , Clemens Lang c...@macports.org wrote:
I do not log any post data along with the IP address, so I cannot tie IPs to
UUIDs, except maybe by correlating the last-update timestamp and the log file.
We are talking NSA-like meta-data, which could be linked to a real person…
Hi,
On 22 Mar 2014, at 20:55 , Clemens Lang c...@macports.org wrote:
I do not log any post data along with the IP address, so I cannot tie IPs
to UUIDs, except maybe by correlating the last-update timestamp and the
log file.
We are talking NSA-like meta-data, which could be linked to a
Dear Clemens,
first of all I apologise if my words were too harsh. It was not my intention to
attack you or anyone else on a personal level!
I am just concerned about everyone’s privacy.
I have (as I said I was going to in a different part of my last mail you
didn't quote) changed my
On Mar 22, 2014, at 12:55 PM, Clemens Lang c...@macports.org wrote:
I’m not arguing that the data should be completely public, but checking where
we are were the data to become completely public through accident or hack,
etc. And maybe I’m suggesting that it might not be so dangerous to make
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 2:49 AM, Bradley Giesbrecht wrote:
On Mar 20, 2014, at 3:54 AM, Clemens Lang wrote:
As a port maintainer, one key thing I'd like to know is the breakdown
of OS versions that my users are running. The data is available for
that, right? Just a matter of extracting and
Hi,
Does anyone have a quick link to the db schema or better yet a data dump
from stats.macports.neverpanic.de;) ?
You'll need to ask Clemens for the actual data dump, but the schema
can be found here:
At 7:20 PM +0100 3/22/14, Clemens Lang wrote:
Hi,
Does anyone have a quick link to the db schema or better yet a data dump
from stats.macports.neverpanic.de;) ?
You'll need to ask Clemens for the actual data dump, but the schema
can be found here:
Just a concerned question:
Why is that database given away to anyone who asks?
Sure, there are only 10 users who have committed all their information to
Clemens’ server neverpanic.de, but I don’t see why information like that shall
be spread even further.
Greets,
Marko
Hi,
Just a concerned question:
Why is that database given away to anyone who asks?
I agree this is a valid question; let's discuss that before I hand out
any statistics data. However, there are other parts of the database besides
the schema that are rather hard to setup (e.g. the
On Mar 22, 2014, at 12:04 PM, Clemens Lang c...@macports.org wrote:
Hi,
Just a concerned question:
Why is that database given away to anyone who asks?
I agree this is a valid question; let's discuss that before I hand out
any statistics data. However, there are other parts of the
Hi,
On the other hand, the user data is anonymized by the UUID, right? Is there
anything in the data that ties the data to a user, beyond the UUID, which is
generated randomly by the user install? ipaddress?
We only store the UUID, there's no connection to any personal data. The apache
On Mar 20, 2014, at 3:54 AM, Clemens Lang c...@macports.org wrote:
As a port maintainer, one key thing I'd like to know is the breakdown
of OS versions that my users are running. The data is available for
that, right? Just a matter of extracting and presenting it?
Yes, that data is
On 19 Mar 2014, at 21:03 , Jeremy Lavergne jer...@lavergne.gotdns.org wrote:
From what I can see, our tool will not gather whether a port was Requested
or not. I think that's a key data point. Some libs will get installed very
frequently as dependencies but will seldom be requested.
At the
Hi Craig,
Thanks, that helped a lot. I like the page layout, very clean. I
have to say, though that I'm not a big fan of pie (or donut) graphs.
It is much easy to compare magnitudes of a bar as opposed to sections
of a donut.
I agree. Patches welcome. In general, if anybody with a little
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Clemens Lang wrote:
Seriously though, it says to install the mpstats port, but port cannot find
anything by that name. Even searching for “stat” doesn’t seem to show any
likely candidates.
That's correct. The port currently doesn't work on any released
Hi,
sudo port install http://files.neverpanic.de/mpvim.tar.
In what way is mpvim related to mpstats?
In none, I'm sorry. Correct URL is
https://neverpanic.de/documents/mpstats.tar
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At 11:06 PM +0100 3/18/14, Rainer Müller wrote:
On 2014-03-18 22:09, James Berry wrote:
* More integrated web app with better access to ports, etc.
Which could also be integrated with the upcoming statistics gathering in
the next MacPorts release.
As I understand it, the statistics process
Regarding the console spam, we can only avoid it if the user “cleanly
uninstalls MacPorts [1]. Then if the stats cron job is treated or installed as
a typical port, the cron job would be uninstalled.
However, if, as suggested, the user just deletes /opt/local/* then we can’t
really cleanup
Hi Craig,
As I understand it, the statistics process arose
in GSOC 11, right? Is it pretty much as
described at:
[…]
Is the above accurate? I understand that Popcon
tracks the last access time (atime) for files in
a port and that our implementation does not.
Yes, that's correct.
On Mar 19, 2014, at 15:16, Craig Treleaven ctrelea...@cogeco.ca wrote:
As I understand it, the statistics process arose in GSOC 11, right? Is it
pretty much as described at:
https://trac.macports.org/wiki/MacPortsStatisticsGSoC2011
There is a (short) thread about the proposal here:
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Clemens Lang c...@macports.org wrote:
Hi Craig,
As I understand it, the statistics process arose
in GSOC 11, right? Is it pretty much as
described at:
[...]
Is the above accurate? I understand that Popcon
tracks the last access time (atime) for
At 5:49 PM -0400 3/19/14, Eric Gallager wrote:
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Clemens Lang
mailto:c...@macports.orgc...@macports.org wrote:
What is the user
wants to get rid of MacPorts and deletes
/opt/local/*. My experience is that launchd will
_never_ stop trying to run the missing
At 9:16 PM +0100 3/19/14, Clemens Lang wrote:
Do we have a sample statistics page for a port/all ports?
http://stats.macports.neverpanic.de/
Thanks, that helped a lot. I like the page layout, very clean. I
have to say, though that I'm not a big fan of pie (or donut) graphs.
It is much
On Wed, 19 Mar 2014, Craig Treleaven wrote:
At 9:16 PM +0100 3/19/14, Clemens Lang wrote:
Do we have a sample statistics page for a port/all ports?
http://stats.macports.neverpanic.de/
Thanks, that helped a lot. I like the page layout, very clean. I have to
say, though that I'm not a
At 7:43 PM -0700 3/19/14, Ludwig wrote:
On Wed, 19 Mar 2014, Craig Treleaven wrote:
At 9:16 PM +0100 3/19/14, Clemens Lang wrote:
Do we have a sample statistics page for a port/all ports?
http://stats.macports.neverpanic.de/
Thanks, that helped a lot. I like the page layout, very
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