I’ve tried to put in feedback about the start up chime however i suggested that
it should be in system preferences so you could toggle it on and off for those
who have MacBook pro with touch bar, hopefully they might listen so people
don’t turn off apple products. that feature is good if
The start up chime is not an accessibility feature,
It is a company feature.
It has slightly changed over the years,
And has been used in movies
I believe that apple didn't take it in to account at how we used it as a
notification feature that he machine was coming on.
I'm guessing that if
Hi Tim,
Like donna I’d rather have the option to turn it on / off, and that doesn’t
need to be a firmware feature surely?
I know in previous devices it could be muted and unmuted.
From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2018 1:16 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Hi Donna,
I thought about that myself,
And I know for a fact that can be done on the older model mac computers,
You can turn the alert tones off and if you wan to hear them turn them back on,
I've had to do that a number of times at work.
-Original Message-
From: 'Donna Goodin' via
Hi Mary,
Thanks for this,
It’s a good read and interesting info re the complications
Should the OS version mentioned in here though be watch OS 5 rather than watch
os 4?
Also the idea of the watch 4 being slimmer is a concern to me, I tend to knock
things around and my watch is no
Well, speaking only for myself, as silly as it may sound, I am heart-sick that
Apple has removed the startup chime from its computer firmware startup
process..
I don't understand how a company that is supposed to take accessibility
seriously, can remove one of the most basic accessibility
That is a pretty good idea. I am pretty sure you could find a good
deal right about now.
On 9/1/18, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
wrote:
> Fair point, ET. Like I said, with the new phones coming out, I may just see
> if I can pick up a used one. That way I keep all my options open.
>
I would go samsung if I was doing android but that's just me. they
have three finger gestures and all. the magic tap to stop and play
music works just fine. So my Iphone 7plus will go nicely with my s10
next year.
On 9/1/18, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries
wrote:
> I tried Android a year ago,
I tried Android a year ago, using the latest, greatest, phone by Google! The
Pixel phone, the most pure Android experience ever! And it still sucked.
TalkBack is a lackluster screen reader, created by the Android Accessibility
team, who can't do much because no one else on the Android team
Hi,
Not if you want the chime in the same time frame. I've seen people come up
with startup scripts that make noise, but it's later on in the startup process.
Thus, you would not be able to use it as an indicator of when to hold down
special keys. Just for clarification purposes, the
I completely agree with this. I started in Android with a Motorola phone,
until I found out that Motorola made some of the features I wanted
inaccessible. I ended up settling for a slower phone, but one where all the
features were accessible. That makes it very hard to select an Android
Hi Janina,
The difference between Steve Jobs and now is that Jobs was a genius who was
truly innovative. That doesn't mean that what he did was for everyone, but it
was a lot cooler than the stuff Apple's coming out with lately. I get that
some of that is due to the fact that we seem to have
Hi,
The issue I have with Android has to do with the differing hardware that the
many manufacturers release. This makes it so that the OS is not always exactly
the same for each device. Some features will work on one device, but may not
work on another. I've mostly experienced this with
Fair point, ET. Like I said, with the new phones coming out, I may just see if
I can pick up a used one. That way I keep all my options open.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Sep 1, 2018, at 10:46 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
> wrote:
>
> Donna,
> I got the 8 plus after 5 years with the 5. Its truly
Hi Andrew,
I'll be curious about your experiences. I think I'll start taking a more
serious look at Android phones, but I'll be slow about actually switching OSes.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Sep 1, 2018, at 3:16 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
> wrote:
>
> Hi Donna,
>
> I too have just
So can they build it in as something other than a firmware setting? I take
your point, but just asking.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Sep 1, 2018, at 8:15 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> With it being a firmware item, it's not something that can be user specific.
> That is,
Hey Lenron,
One thing I'm thinking about--among many--is picking up a used 8 and then just
waiting things out for a couple of years.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Sep 1, 2018, at 3:42 PM, lenron brown wrote:
>
> You say with in a year getting slow nah it should be fine. I know
> people using the 6s
Hi,
With it being a firmware item, it's not something that can be user specific.
That is, settings within the firmware are not able to be modified by the
enduser, just by Apple themselves. This is a security thing and is partially
why the Mac is a more secure system than Windows. Don't get
Hi Anders,
That was my experience back in 2010. I would have hoped that things would have
improved. Part of what I'm wrestling with is whether to try a new OS, or just
live with Apple.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Sep 1, 2018, at 7:13 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
>
> Hi!
> I am kind of half android
Hey Simon,
I get that sighted users may not want it, but it seems like they could preserve
it as an option so that anyone, sighted or not, could make the decision for
themselves.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Sep 1, 2018, at 5:45 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>
> Hi Donna,
> Yes I agree,
>
> They should
Hi!
I am kind of half android and half Apple user.
To be honest i don’t know what way to go.
I have both the old Iphone Se, an Ipad mini 3 and an Ipad mini 4 plus 2 mac
computers.
BUt i also have an android phone which is a Nokia 8.
One thing i don’t like about android is that for me it is harder
Hi Donna,
Yes I agree,
They should all to the users about what they are looking for rate then tell us
what we want.
The start up come is something that apple have had for years and years. I’d
like to know why they stopped it.
Simon Fogarty
Dunedin, NZ
Em: si...@fogarty.net.
> On 1/09/2018,
Hi,
For me, I shut down the computer instead of restarting it. Thus if it is
powered down, I press the power button to turn it on, wait a second or two then
hold down the necessary keys. Not ideal, but it does the job.
Later...
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Apologies if this has been asked already; how are we supposed to know when to
hold keystrokes such as command r which need to be held at the startup chime?
Cheers!
Cara
On Aug 31, 2018, at 6:51 PM, lenron brown wrote:
Stupid that they removed it.
On 8/31/18, Simon Fogarty wrote:
> Hi
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You say with in a year getting slow nah it should be fine. I know
people using the 6s with no issues. I am using the 7plus and it's
running just fine. You don't need the latest and greatest these days.
Took me a long time to realize that when it came to phones, I use to
upgrade every year. I will
Hi Donna,
I too have just started experimenting with Android. It seems that it’s moved
on quite a bit with TalkBack, and I feel I’m going to fall in love with it
slowly given the number of phones one can choose from.
Andrew
> On Sep 1, 2018, at 12:45 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
>
You have to keep in mind that Face ID is a first gen product like Touch ID was
when it was first released. I love my iPhone X and Face ID works for me.
From: 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 1, 2018 4:33 AM
To: 'Chris Blouch'
This has been the eternal knock against Apple, whether it comes from
accessibility or somewhere else in the user community.
The prevailing ethos at 1 Infinite Loop is: "We know what you need
better than you do." That was Steve Jobbs for you, and the ethos still
persists.
I'm not saying here
There's seems to be a very high premium favoring silent boot in the
sighted world.
We had this fight several times over on Linux. Fortunately, we were able
to add configuration options both to the grub bootloader and to the GDM
graphical desktop display manager to allow for making sound. But,
Donna,
I got the 8 plus after 5 years with the 5. Its truly s major step
up. I would not concern myself with what might happen down the road. Get
the 8 and take it one day at a time. There is simply too much going on
in the world, we should not spend time worrying about the future.
From
It converts between a laptop and a tablet PC.
Kind regards,
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
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> On 1 Sep 2018, at 22:00, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
> wrote:
>
> Hi David,
>
> Just curious, what is a Windows
Hi David,
That's interesting,
I don't mind face id, but it has it's moments,
As for the windows convertible,
I still prefer the mac book due to needing both mac os and widnows, running
windows in boot camp allows a quick flick between them both.
I'm hoping the earpods 2 are released soon
Having spent the past 9 months using face id
I don’t mind it but it does have it’s moments.
I’d like to see both options available on the devices or on the higher end
devices and then one or the other on the entry level.
That’s what Samsung seem to have done with their s8 and s9 models.
They
But leo,
How do you know?
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Sent: Saturday, 1 September 2018 9:58 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mac OS Start up Chimes
I don't need a big screen either,
and surely I don't need three
Hi Shawn,
You know, getting an iPhone 8 is one of the options I've been considering. My
fear is that it will just become too slow to use within a year or so.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Sep 1, 2018, at 3:32 AM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries
> wrote:
>
> Well I for one am not about to give up
Thanks for this, David. I agree with your assessment about the rumors probably
being right. That fits with what Apple seems to have been doing for a while
now. But, sounds like there might be a possibility of getting the fingerprint
sensor too, which would help.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Sep 1,
Hi David,
Just curious, what is a Windows convertible?
Face ID seemed good in theory, but in practice, it drives me crazy. With Touch
ID, when picking up my phone or getting it out of my purse, I could have it
unlocked by the time I had it in front of me. With touch ID I can't even start
Yeah, I may start experimenting with Android. I had an Android phone back in
2010 and hated it, but the experience has probably changed a bit since then.
I hope you're right about touch ID, but my guess is that the only place it will
be preserved is the iPhone SE.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Sep 1,
I don't need a big screen either,
and surely I don't need three cameras...
Leo Bado
El 31/08/2018 a las 19:46, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries escribió:
You know, I don't know about anyone else, but I'm feeling frustrated with
Apple. I was really hoping that the new iPhone models would
I must say I completely agree. I feel like they are trying to force us
to use face id. Touch id was adopted a few years ago and it just
works. It doesn't matter where my phone is when I need to unlock it
and I like that. I will gladly keep my mac book around until it
breaks, and this IPhone
For Face ID on the iPhone X, double press the power button. Activate Face ID,
then put the iPhone near the reader.
That said, I usually use my Apple Watch because it is more convenient.
Kind regards,
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my
Well I for one am not about to give up my Apple products and go to the
darkside. I bought my new Mac this past March and just recently purchased an
iPhone 8 and they're both working great. As for the iPhone, I'm going to keep
this 8 until they decide to stop supporting it. I'm also reluctant to
Hi all,
According to the rumours, Apple will be removing touch ID from all the new
devices.
It is important to note: Apple has been on a quest to remove all buttons,
switches, and so forth for several years, so I expect these rumours are
accurate.
I do not remember the spelling of the
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