Re: [maemo-developers] ipkg vs dpkg

2005-11-29 Thread Russell Nelson
Matthew Allum writes: Surely this isn't a fair comparison as the packages in Debian 2.2 arn't 'tuned' to embedded use ( i.e include docs, .la files etc etc ). You'd be better comparing udebs that make up D-I or something. I'm only talking about the overhead of the package manager, not the

Re: [maemo-developers] ipkg vs dpkg

2005-11-29 Thread Matthew Allum
Hi; On 11/29/05, Russell Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew Allum writes: Surely this isn't a fair comparison as the packages in Debian 2.2 arn't 'tuned' to embedded use ( i.e include docs, .la files etc etc ). You'd be better comparing udebs that make up D-I or something. I'm

Re: [maemo-developers] ipkg vs dpkg

2005-11-29 Thread Koen Kooi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Zeeshan Ali wrote: Repeat after me: the 770 is not an embedded system. It is a small computer with neither a qwerty keyboard nor a big hard drive, nor a really fast processor. You are kidding, right? Anything is an embedded system if it:

Re: [maemo-developers] ipkg vs dpkg

2005-11-29 Thread Kalle Vahlman
2005/11/29, Matthew Allum [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the 770 is not an embedded system - OK :) You understand my point though - we could argue all week on if my digitial watch for example was a small computer or an embedded system. And that wouldn't resolve the real issues with the device which are

Re: [maemo-developers] ipkg vs dpkg

2005-11-29 Thread Florian Boor
Hi, Matthew Allum wrote: Somebody writes something new that kicks arse and addresses the issues with dpkg and ipkg. that would be a solution, but open source software has a one big advantage: It can be improved to avoid rewriting something from the scratch. We should consider to make use of

Re: [maemo-developers] ipkg vs dpkg

2005-11-29 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi, On Fri, Nov 25, 2005 at 08:46:23PM -0500, ext Russell Nelson wrote: Instead of tossing out opinions, let's look at some numbers. I have Debian 2.2 on a server and Familiar 6.2 on a handheld. Since we're talking about using either dpkg or ipkg on a jffs2 filesystem, all space consumption

Re: [maemo-developers] ipkg vs dpkg

2005-11-29 Thread Koen Kooi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kalle Vahlman wrote: 2005/11/29, Matthew Allum [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the 770 is not an embedded system - OK :) You understand my point though - we could argue all week on if my digitial watch for example was a small computer or an embedded system.

Re: [maemo-developers] ipkg vs dpkg

2005-11-29 Thread Kalle Vahlman
2005/11/29, Koen Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kalle Vahlman wrote: So we are talking about changing a rarely used utility to save less than one percent of the flash space? With modifications to who knows what amount of the packages included? I

Re: [maemo-developers] ipkg vs dpkg

2005-11-29 Thread Tomas Frydrych
Kalle Vahlman wrote: Build environment as in the Maemo and packages as in the existing dbus/ dir contents (bad wording, sorry). If you need to port all of Maemo to a new pkg management just to use ipkg, well... Granted, you need to recreate the packages for AI currently too so perhaps it's

Re: [maemo-developers] ipkg vs dpkg

2005-11-29 Thread Koen Kooi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tomas Frydrych wrote: Kalle Vahlman wrote: Build environment as in the Maemo and packages as in the existing dbus/ dir contents (bad wording, sorry). If you need to port all of Maemo to a new pkg management just to use ipkg, well...