Re: [maemo-developers] neat device

2006-03-30 Thread Michele
Hi all, this is my first message in the ML, but I currently follow #maemo on irc... I hope not to miss, but if Kalle comes from Nokia (.fi suffix is rather common on this mailinglist...), I'd like only to say that sometime Nokia People is too much easily offended. I'm speaking for myself,

[maemo-developers] USB Headset for VOIP?

2006-03-30 Thread john.s.jiang
Title: [maemo-developers] USB Headset for VOIP? HI, My colleagues have tried logitech usb headset 350,it works very well. -John ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers

[maemo-developers] jhbuild of maemo in scratchbox?

2006-03-30 Thread Murray Cumming
A few months ago I tried using jhbuild inside scratchbox, so I wouldn't have to install all the right versions of the autotools, and play with the environment variables for a separate prefix. I didn't get very far, though I forget the exact errors. I'm trying it again now. Has anyone got this

Re: [maemo-developers] OGG support

2006-03-30 Thread Koen Kooi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Juha Yrjölä wrote: On Mon, 2005-10-31 at 13:53 +0100, ext Koen Kooi wrote: What's nokia's position on EABI[1]? At least this part of Nokia thinks that EABI is cool. It seems you have company*:

Re: [maemo-developers] neat device

2006-03-30 Thread Kemal Hadimli
Great post Michele :) Another bigger limit is the amount of internal ram: so why not to have a simplified hildon-input method that free lot of ram for people who doesn't need the HWR (that I repeat, at the moment is totally useless for me), simply selectable via control panel? I also

Re: [maemo-developers] neat device

2006-03-30 Thread Tapani Pälli
ext John Meacham wrote: I got my nokia 770 the other day and love it. I have already started porting stuff and am happy to say my jhc haskell compiler can cross compile to maemo just fine. In any case, looking at the memory usage, hildon-input-method takes up a whopping 6.3 megs of real ram

Re: [maemo-developers] WLAN and bluetooth modem on at the same time?

2006-03-30 Thread Kalle Valo
Teemu Harju [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is it somehow possible to use the WLAN and bluetooth modem with my phone at the same time on Nokia 770? The UI doesn't seem to allow this, but are there some scripts that I could run from Xterm to achieve this? My idea would be to use the Nokia 770 as a

Re: [maemo-developers] WLAN and bluetooth modem on at the same time?

2006-03-30 Thread Teemu Harju
Thanks... that is probably the easier way. I was kind of trying to do it the hard way by establishing the 3G connection manually. How stupid of me.- Teemu2006/3/30, Kalle Valo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:Teemu Harju [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is it somehow possible to use the WLAN and bluetooth modem with

Re: [maemo-developers] neat device (input method)

2006-03-30 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext John Meacham wrote: In any case, looking at the memory usage, hildon-input-method takes up a whopping 6.3 megs of real ram That's just RSS. Most of that is Gtk libraries and their dependencies shared with all the other applications on the device. VmData VmStk values from /proc/IM

[maemo-developers] Apologies

2006-03-30 Thread Philippe Laporte
Hi, My apologies for how things went yesterday. It was at no time my intention to say anyone is lying. I have new roles here since just recently and sometimes I am trying different approach tactics. This one was a definite failure, especially in the middle of a release. I am proud of

[maemo-developers] Re: Measuring power consumption of 770

2006-03-30 Thread Igor Stoppa
Interesting ... frankly nothing new to me, but it is a good start point that proves how it is possible to have good performances even with low power devices. Next week i probably won't be able to reply to anything, however soonish Maemo designing/coding guidelines will be available, and i hope

Re: [maemo-developers] neat device

2006-03-30 Thread Chris Bare
On 3/30/06, John Meacham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip memory rant and offensive remarks about the VKB] So I whipped up a little X keyboard which uses a more reasonable tens of k of RAM, So you whipped up handwriting and word prediction too? How cool! (hint: if you start dissing

Re: [maemo-developers] neat device

2006-03-30 Thread Disconnect
On Thu, 30 Mar 2006, Chris Bare did have cause to say: On 3/30/06, John Meacham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip memory rant and offensive remarks about the VKB] So I whipped up a little X keyboard which uses a more reasonable tens of k of RAM, So you whipped up handwriting and word

[maemo-developers] New Software Version

2006-03-30 Thread Adam Uccello
Hi All, Does anyone have a date on when Nokia expects to release the next version of the software? I've seen Q1 2006 a few places, but I'm curious if anyone has any more concrete information. Thanks, -Adam ___ maemo-developers mailing list

[maemo-developers] Re: neat device

2006-03-30 Thread Ross Burton
On Thu, 2006-03-30 at 10:58 -0500, Ted Zlatanov wrote: - Origami-style keyboard (radial from a corner, probably better under Fitt's law) - see the billion preview pics for a sample Fitt's law only applies for mice, and the Origami keyboard appears to be designed for use by thumbs. Ross --

Re: [maemo-developers] New Software Version

2006-03-30 Thread Koen Kooi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Flegg wrote: On 3/30/06, Peter Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have a date on when Nokia expects to release the next version of the software? I've seen Q1 2006 a few places, but I'm curious if anyone has any more concrete

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: neat device

2006-03-30 Thread Kemal Hadimli
Okay, disq's law: As an online discussion about maemo grows longer, the probability of a comparison/statement involving Origami approaches one. (Greetings go to Mike Godwin for Godwin's Law) On 3/30/06, Ross Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2006-03-30 at 10:58 -0500, Ted Zlatanov wrote:

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: neat device

2006-03-30 Thread Kalle Vahlman
On 3/30/06, Kemal Hadimli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, disq's law: As an online discussion about maemo grows longer, the probability of a comparison/statement involving Origami approaches one. :D Almost as funny as the fact that the device is referenced as an origin for good ideas when

Re: [maemo-developers] neat device

2006-03-30 Thread Jonathan Matthews-Levine
On 3/30/06, Disconnect [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 30 Mar 2006, Chris Bare did have cause to say: I agree that the current keyboard has a lot of features, but personally I never use the handwriting or word prediction, so I'd be interested in a lighter-weight alternative. Me too.

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: neat device

2006-03-30 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On 30 Mar 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2006-03-30 at 10:58 -0500, Ted Zlatanov wrote: - Origami-style keyboard (radial from a corner, probably better under Fitt's law) - see the billion preview pics for a sample Fitt's law only applies for mice, and the Origami keyboard appears to

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: neat device

2006-03-30 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On 30 Mar 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, disq's law: As an online discussion about maemo grows longer, the probability of a comparison/statement involving Origami approaches one. (Greetings go to Mike Godwin for Godwin's Law) I have to point out, I made neither a comparison nor a

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: neat device

2006-03-30 Thread Kemal Hadimli
I agree it didn't, I just couldn't pass up on such a good joke opportunity. :) On 30 Mar 2006 12:57:37 -0500, Ted Zlatanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to point out, I made neither a comparison nor a statement about Origami. I just suggested that a radial keyboard might be a nice idea. So

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: neat device

2006-03-30 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On 30 Mar 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Almost as funny as the fact that the device is referenced as an origin for good ideas when AFAIK nobody has even seen such a thing live not to mention holding one ;) I am not sure how that's relevant. I went by this picture, which could be a mock-up

Re: [maemo-developers] neat device

2006-03-30 Thread Disconnect
On Thu, 30 Mar 2006, Ted Zlatanov did have cause to say: Of course, full Bluetooth keyboard support would also be very nice (right now you need 3rd party status bar applet, and xterm has the Enter key issue). Bluetooth mice are also something I would love to use on the 770. FYI lots of apps

Re: [maemo-developers] Odonata

2006-03-30 Thread S. Meslin-Weber
Hi Philippe, (posting this on maemo, only just noticed you'd posted to both lists) On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 03:45:37PM +0100, Philippe Laporte wrote: [snip] How is Odonata doing? It doesn't have a mailing list. I've contacted the author, but can people share their experience with Odonata,

Re: [maemo-developers] neat device

2006-03-30 Thread Michael Wiktowy
On 3/30/06, Michele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all,So again, just my 2c:the VKB has a HWR that really sucks. I tried many times to use it, butever switched back to the on-screen keyboard, because recognition simpledoesn't work well, and the capability to be trained is too little. I found that too

[maemo-developers] Re: Measuring power consumption of 770

2006-03-30 Thread Larry Battraw
On 3/30/06, Igor Stoppa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting ... frankly nothing new to me, but it is a good start point that proves how it is possible to have good performances even with low power devices. Indeed :-) I didn't really figure it would be news to you, although I was hoping

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: neat device

2006-03-30 Thread Kalle Vahlman
On 30 Mar 2006 13:05:41 -0500, Ted Zlatanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30 Mar 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Almost as funny as the fact that the device is referenced as an origin for good ideas when AFAIK nobody has even seen such a thing live not to mention holding one ;) I am not

RE: [maemo-developers] Building maemo from cvs

2006-03-30 Thread Devesh.Kothari
Murray, Such a page would be welcomed. Few things to consider 1. Maemo 1.1 public release usually lag behind internal product development 2. what you see in SVN are realtime in sync (mostly) with product development 3. some of the time, these SVN projects like HAF (hildon application framework)