Re: adaptation of Extras QA hurdles

2011-01-27 Thread Thomas Perl
Hi! 2011/1/27 Riku Voipio riku.voi...@nokia.com: On 01/25/2011 05:24 PM, ext Andrew Flegg wrote: On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 15:03, Felipe Crochik fel...@crochik.com wrote: A new version of an existing application should have a lower barrier to promotion than a new application. It's obvious;

Re: adaptation of Extras QA hurdles

2011-01-27 Thread Patrick Beck
Hi, i have the same problem with my two applications. kfzcheck [1] and kfzcheck-extras [2]. Because many people don't use extras-testing and extras-devel. Lots of people haven't seen the apps and can decide if it can be useful and give feedback to me for improvements. The two apps are now in

Re: adaptation of Extras QA hurdles

2011-01-27 Thread Tomasz Sterna
On czw, 2011-01-27 at 15:16 +0100, Patrick Beck wrote: Because many people don't use extras-testing and extras-devel. Lots of people haven't seen the apps and can decide if it can be useful and give feedback to me for improvements. There are a lot of people using extras-testing and even

Re: adaptation of Extras QA hurdles

2011-01-27 Thread a.gra...@gmail.com
Hi, On 27 January 2011 16:05, Tomasz Sterna to...@xiaoka.com wrote: There are a lot of people using extras-testing and even extras-devel. Not many of them know or care about the web voting and approval system. +1 :) or better... we need a way to let people know if the application listed come

Re: adaptation of Extras QA hurdles

2011-01-27 Thread Andrew Flegg
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 15:09, a.gra...@gmail.com a.gra...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 January 2011 16:05, Tomasz Sterna to...@xiaoka.com wrote: There are a lot of people using extras-testing and even extras-devel. Not many of them know or care about the web voting and approval system. or

RE: adaptation of Extras QA hurdles

2011-01-27 Thread Felipe Crochik
We have had this discussion few months back but unfortunately it didn't lead to any action. It seems that the pieces are out there: appdownloader, Faster Application Manager and maybe the testing application (can't remember the name...sorry). I think, at least, the first two are Qt based and,

Re: adaptation of Extras QA hurdles

2011-01-27 Thread Felipe Crochik
Sorry wrong button Hit reply and not reply to all this is the message I just sent to Andrew: -- Forwarded message -- From: Felipe Crochik fel...@crochik.com Date: Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:24 AM Subject: Re: adaptation of Extras QA hurdles To: Andrew Flegg and...@bleb.org

Re: adaptation of Extras QA hurdles

2011-01-27 Thread a.gra...@gmail.com
Hi, On 27 January 2011 16:25, Felipe Crochik fel...@crochik.com wrote: Sorry if the question is silly but why do you think enhancing HAM is better than creating a new application based on appdownloader, FAP and KISSTester? all I know is that all people I asked to, told me that they would

Re: adaptation of Extras QA hurdles

2011-01-27 Thread Patrick Beck
Hi, at the beginning of the n900 device with maemo 5 many people have seen a risk at installing applications from extras-devel. I think the most important problem was the full rootfs (not optified). I mean after pr1.2 was the problem no more possible, but the users has still not installed apps

RE: adaptation of Extras QA hurdles

2011-01-27 Thread Felipe Crochik
That is scary :) I have never checked out the source code of any of them and don't even know who the FAP developer is. I have to say that I like how the 3 of them work. If we are going to take on making a better tool we should aim high. It needs to be more than an application manager it needs to

RE: adaptation of Extras QA hurdles

2011-01-27 Thread Felipe Crochik
I wouldn't mind testing it. Can you tell us what it is about? Felipe -Original Message- From: maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org [mailto:maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Beck Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:54 AM To: maemo-developers Subject: Re: adaptation of

Re: adaptation of Extras QA hurdles

2011-01-27 Thread Felipe Crochik
Sorry I did again... Here is the message: -Original Message- From: Felipe Crochik [mailto:fel...@crochik.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:01 AM To: 'a.gra...@gmail.com' Cc: 'maemo-developers@maemo.org' Subject: RE: adaptation of Extras QA hurdles That is scary :) I have never

Re: adaptation of Extras QA hurdles

2011-01-27 Thread Andrew Flegg
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 15:29, a.gra...@gmail.com a.gra...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 January 2011 16:25, Felipe Crochik fel...@crochik.com wrote: Sorry if the question is silly but why do you think enhancing HAM is better than creating a new application based on appdownloader, FAP and KISSTester?

RE: adaptation of Extras QA hurdles

2011-01-27 Thread Patrick Beck
Hi, the short-version: It's a lookup tool for license plates. It's interesting to know from which regions of a country the other peoples come. Or you can play a game with other people to guess right from which region the car comes ;) kfzcheck has different files for many countrys (in which it is

Re: adaptation of Extras QA hurdles

2011-01-27 Thread Ville M. Vainio
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Felipe Crochik fel...@crochik.com wrote: I have to say that I like how the 3 of them work. If we are going to take on making a better tool we should aim high. It needs to be more than an application manager it needs to be a tool for the user to find and decide

Re: adaptation of Extras QA hurdles

2011-01-27 Thread Attila Csipa
On Thursday 27 January 2011 18:07:32 Andrew Flegg wrote: Unless we take extraordinary (and almost certainly self-defeating) actions like requiring KISStester to be installed to use any software from Extras-(devel|testing). In fact, I would very specifically argue against such an approach. The

RE: adaptation of Extras QA hurdles

2011-01-27 Thread Felipe Crochik
This sounds like an even more interesting idea! It would be make for a very not-exclusive-to-maemo project. Isn't any of the distributions working on something like this? Why not? For maemo the issue then becomes that it is not about just finding developers to write an application but that we

Information about ICD2 policy plugins discovered

2011-01-27 Thread Jonathan Wilson
http://wiki.maemo.org/ICD_Policy_Plugins This should mean people can have more control over how icd2 manages networks (e.g. how it chooses which network to connect to at any given time) ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org

Re: adaptation of Extras QA hurdles

2011-01-27 Thread Thomas Perl
Hi Attila and all, 2011/1/27 Attila Csipa ma...@csipa.in.rs: On Thursday 27 January 2011 18:07:32 Andrew Flegg wrote: Unless we take extraordinary (and almost certainly self-defeating) actions like requiring KISStester to be installed to use any software from Extras-(devel|testing). In