Fwd: Debian derivatives census: missing SHA-1 hashes

2011-08-15 Thread Jeremiah Foster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Getting involved in the Debian Derivative Census is a great way to preserve the life of your Maemo software and potentially expand your user base. This forwarded email contains a lot more information and some requests for the use of SHA1 sums

Maemo's way forward as an Open project

2011-03-29 Thread Jeremiah Foster
Hello, I sent an email to the maemo-community list but I think it is equally l relevant here so I'm forwarding a link. The mail begins; I'd like to say to the Maemo Council, old and new, that there is an excellent way to move Maemo forward. Not just as a legacy operating system for Nokia

Re: Maemo's way forward as an Open project

2011-03-29 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Mar 29, 2011, at 11:17, Hector Oron wrote: 2011/3/29 Jeremiah Foster jerem...@jeremiahfoster.com: I'd like to say to the Maemo Council, old and new, that there is an excellent way to move Maemo forward. Not just as a legacy operating system for Nokia devices, but even for newer devices

Re: Help needed: packaging/distributing very small C app

2010-04-20 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Apr 20, 2010, at 11:15 AM, David King wrote: On 2010-04-19 16:50, Dave Neary dne...@maemo.org wrote: Hi, Dave Neary wrote: I documented the packaging of a C app (using autotools for building) a while back in the wiki: http://wiki.maemo.org/Packaging#A_concrete_example_-_rot13 This

Re: Packages interface - Warning: This package seems to be a library in a user/* section!

2010-04-13 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Apr 12, 2010, at 8:24 PM, Niels Breet wrote: Hi Hi, Could someone explain what the packages interface considers my application as a library ? http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-devel_fr ee_armel/libellule/0.0.1-3/ This is a rather lame check I added

Re: Maemo Theme Maker failed to produce Debian package

2010-03-30 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Mar 30, 2010, at 12:54 PM, Daniil Ivanov wrote: Hi all! Hi there! I'm trying to produce sample theme package using Maemo Theme Maker 1.2.9: https://garage.maemo.org/projects/thememaker/ I haven't use that tool before unfortunately, so I can't give you any advice except to contact the

Re: Maemo Theme Maker failed to produce Debian package

2010-03-30 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Mar 30, 2010, at 2:24 PM, Daniil Ivanov wrote: Hi! Sorry, I forgot to mention pretty relevant information, that I'm searching for a one-button-press solution, which will be used on Windows by people with no Linux experience, so manual package creation is a no go solution. Then why

Re: Ask for removal of some packages from Extras Fremantle repository

2010-03-29 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Mar 29, 2010, at 11:00 AM, Attila Csipa wrote: On Monday 29 March 2010 08:07:06 Marius Vollmer wrote: all the good stuff in them, because they know that these repositories are well-maintained and backed by a community: packages are not abandoned, and they can expect them to be updated

Re: Ask for removal of some packages from Extras Fremantle repository

2010-03-26 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Mar 26, 2010, at 8:19 AM, Matti Airas wrote: On 25.03.2010 18:10, ext Dave Neary wrote: There is an alternative - if Benoît does not want to deal with Extras, and others feel that the packages he was packaging are vital, someone else can take over as official packager and deal with all

Re: some thread about packaging and QA

2010-03-26 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Mar 25, 2010, at 8:52 PM, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: There were plans to start using lintian from Debian for automatic checks of Maemo packages. So far it looks like there were plans only. Lintian, with Nokia additions, is used by Nokia to do testing internally. I have set up a Maemian

Re: maemo-developers Digest, Vol 59, Issue 25

2010-03-26 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Mar 26, 2010, at 9:36 AM, Marius Vollmer wrote: ext Urho Konttori urho.kontt...@gmail.com writes: Also, the current model of centralized gigantic repository does not scale up too well. Just look at the state of using extras-devel is on the current devices (hint: slow pain). [ Urho,

Re: maemo-developers Digest, Vol 59, Issue 25

2010-03-26 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Mar 26, 2010, at 3:00 PM, Marius Vollmer wrote: ext Jeremiah Foster jerem...@jeremiahfoster.com writes: One huge issue with the repository is the tool used on the backend: apt-ftparchiver. This tool cannot automatically remove debs and source packages, causing huge disk bloat (some

Re: maemo-developers Digest, Vol 59, Issue 25

2010-03-26 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Mar 26, 2010, at 5:22 PM, Samir Faci (Dev) wrote: Or you know... wait for it to be released first and see what it looks like first hand? Just a thought.. On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Dave Neary dne...@maemo.org wrote: Hi, Jeremiah Foster wrote: On Mar 26, 2010, at 3:00 PM

Re: Ask for removal of some packages from Extras Fremantle repository

2010-03-24 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Mar 23, 2010, at 10:35 PM, Klaus Rotter wrote: Am 22.03.2010 16:22, schrieb Graham Cobb: On Monday 22 March 2010 14:30:00 Matan Ziv-Av wrote: - You can't easily remove a package from extras-devel. (Or maybe at all? I asked for a package to be removed two weeks ago. It is still there).

Re: Ask for removal of some packages from Extras Fremantle repository

2010-03-23 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Mar 23, 2010, at 11:24 AM, Thomas Perl wrote: 2010/3/23 Andrew Flegg and...@bleb.org: On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 00:20, Attila Csipa ma...@csipa.in.rs wrote: On Tuesday 23 March 2010 00:39:09 Darren Long wrote: However, in the general case where the source and the executable are not the

Re: Ask for removal of some packages from Extras Fremantle repository

2010-03-22 Thread Jeremiah Foster
Do these packages have other packages that depend on them? Why are you guys interested in removing so many packages? Jeremiah On Mar 22, 2010, at 11:16 AM, David Hautbois wrote: Hello And please remove qypy too. David. Benoît HERVIER wrote: Hi, Please, can you remove all version of

Re: Building Maemo OS from Source.

2010-03-22 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Mar 22, 2010, at 7:47 AM, Marius Vollmer wrote: Stoppa Igor (Nokia-D/Helsinki) igor.sto...@nokia.com writes: No at all: it's about standardization. The device must support a certain set of features and provide well defined APIs. So if a device is MeeGo compliant, it will be

Re: Building Maemo OS from Source.

2010-03-22 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Mar 22, 2010, at 1:53 PM, Marius Vollmer wrote: ext Jeremiah Foster jerem...@jeremiahfoster.com writes: On Mar 22, 2010, at 7:47 AM, Marius Vollmer wrote: In my view, MeeGo is a development effort, not a standardization effort. I am not convinced that this is true. It looks like

Re: Community updates for diablo (specifically Application Manager if nothing else)

2010-03-01 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Mar 1, 2010, at 8:26 AM, Marius Vollmer wrote: ext Lucas Maneos ma...@subs.maneos.org writes: On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 08:12:23AM +0200, Marius Vollmer wrote: It might just be the missing public key. Without it, the signature on your repo will not be recognized as valid, and it will be

Re: MeeGo

2010-02-16 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Feb 16, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Jean-Christian de Rivaz wrote: Yves-Alexis Perez a écrit : Absolutely right. The success of Ubuntu and Debian have proved this. Aside of this, I am puzzled to see a project that it targeted to support both X86 and ARM processors without even considering the

Re: MeeGo

2010-02-16 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Feb 16, 2010, at 2:12 PM, Pavel Rojtberg wrote: Am 16.02.2010 10:16, schrieb Jeremiah Foster: Intel and Nokia do not care about the implementation of the package system, they just want revenue from app stores. The upshot from all of this is that we are stuck with RPM, there is no going

Re: MeeGo

2010-02-16 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Feb 16, 2010, at 3:00 PM, Stuart Anderson wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2010, Jeremiah Foster wrote: I highly doubt the Linux Foundation is going to go back on the Linux Standards Base and use .debs, but I do like your optimism. :) Not that the LSB only specified the RPM package format

Re: MeeGo

2010-02-16 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Feb 16, 2010, at 5:18 PM, Pavel Rojtberg wrote: Am 16.02.2010 14:36, schrieb Jeremiah Foster: I highly doubt the Linux Foundation is going to go back on the Linux Standards Base and use .debs, but I do like your optimism. :) actually I only care what the MeeGo version will use

Re: MeeGo

2010-02-16 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Feb 16, 2010, at 5:27 PM, Thomas Tanner wrote: On 16.02.10 17:18, Pavel Rojtberg wrote: actually I only care what the MeeGo version will use that is supposed to run on future Nokia handhelds. Frankly, it is suicide not to switch to rpm. you mean all .deb based distributions are doomed

MeeGo

2010-02-15 Thread Jeremiah Foster
Intel and Nokia collaboration: http://meego.com/ Jeremiah ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers

Re: MeeGo

2010-02-15 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Feb 15, 2010, at 12:49 PM, Luca De Cicco wrote: I guess that the follow ups of this story will be very interesting. For starters, MeeGo claims to target automotive, where Intel has a very thin market share (if any). Umm, perhaps you haven't seen the GenIVI consortium?

Re: Is package importing working?

2010-02-15 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Feb 15, 2010, at 1:41 PM, Andrei Mirestean wrote: Yesterday evening it worked ok, but this morning I have the same problem. Niels apparently was working on this. Jeremiah On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Luca Donaggio donag...@gmail.com wrote: It seems so... I promoted a package from

Re: MeeGo

2010-02-15 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Feb 15, 2010, at 12:49 PM, Luca De Cicco wrote: I guess that the follow ups of this story will be very interesting. For starters, MeeGo claims to target automotive, where Intel has a very thin market share (if any). Umm, perhaps you haven't seen the GenIVI consortium?

Re: MeeGo

2010-02-15 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Feb 15, 2010, at 4:40 PM, Thomas Tanner wrote: The problem is more complex than converting binary .debs to .rpms using a hack. alien is not a hack. It is packaged and maintained by Joey Hess who wrote debhelper. Few people know more about debian's build system than Joey. The

Re: Packaging questions

2010-02-11 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Feb 9, 2010, at 2:29 PM, Dave Neary wrote: Hi, Ajai Khattri wrote: Maybe there ought to be a link to the dh_make man page from there? Which docs were you following, and how did you get there? we're trying to make http://wiki.maemo.org/Packaging the standard quick start page, and

Re: Packaging questions

2010-02-10 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Feb 10, 2010, at 9:02 AM, Ajai Khattri wrote: On Tue, 9 Feb 2010, Jeremiah Foster wrote: Exactly. Thanks for pointing this out Marius. Unless I am mistaken Ajai, you were referring to building multiple *package* binaries, correct? (Not multiple application/runtime binaries.) Just

Re: Testing apps

2010-02-09 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Feb 7, 2010, at 1:14 AM, ma...@bitblit.net wrote: Ive built a command-line app. I can bring up the Maemo UI and run the tool from Terminal just fine (from inside its source folder), however related utilities that come with the tool dont work - Im assuming I need to do a make install

Re: Packaging questions

2010-02-09 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Feb 9, 2010, at 16:23, Marius Gedminas wrote: On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 12:19:10AM -0500, Ajai Khattri wrote: Im trying to create my first Maemo package and I had a few questions: 1) This package has a main binary, but also has additional binaries/scripts and library files, so do I

Re: Ovi Store and VAT

2010-02-08 Thread Jeremiah Foster
I think this is off-topic for this list Benoit. You may want to contact OVI directly. Jeremiah On Feb 5, 2010, at 8:10 AM, Benoît HERVIER wrote: Hi, I've try to register myself on ovistore but my enterprise didn't have a vat number as it is exempted from vat (European VAT not

Re: Packaging questions

2010-02-08 Thread Jeremiah Foster
Hi Ajai! On Feb 8, 2010, at 6:19 AM, Ajai Khattri wrote: Im trying to create my first Maemo package Awesome! :) and I had a few questions: 1) This package has a main binary, but also has additional binaries/scripts and library files, so do I select 'Multiple binaries' when running

Re: Debian Etch, Rebuilt: 6,451 .debs for Maemo 5

2010-02-03 Thread Jeremiah Foster
Amazing stuff Jeff - really great! On Feb 3, 2010, at 7:43 AM, Marius Vollmer wrote: ext Jeff Moe m...@blagblagblag.org writes: Do you have the build logs online as well? Yes, from http://obra.freemoe.org/freemoe-etch/3/3dchess/root.log to

Re: Maintenance of ported apps

2010-02-02 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Feb 1, 2010, at 18:05, Pavel Rojtberg wrote: Am 01.02.2010 17:43, schrieb Bernd Stramm: This area is sort of problematic in many respects. Hijacking someone's package can suppress good work and good people. And it is quite disrespectful. what do you mean by Hijacking? Isnt this exactly

Re: Maintenance of ported apps

2010-02-01 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Feb 1, 2010, at 7:13 AM, Ville M. Vainio wrote: On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 4:57 AM, ma...@bitblit.net wrote: Im very interested in porting apps to Maemo but I have concerns about the long-term maintenance of the apps. Unfortunately the process is not codified, many assumptions are made.

Re: HOWTO: Query installed application

2010-01-28 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Jan 28, 2010, at 9:34 AM, Stefan Iwanowitsch wrote: Hi everybody, how can I obtain information about the installed applications The command 'dpkg -l' will show you all installed packages on your device. and access their icons? Icons are kept in specific directories on the device, I'll

Re: MySQL and N800

2010-01-26 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Jan 26, 2010, at 7:46 AM, Bjoern Ricks wrote: Sorry didn't send my answer to the list. Hi, the last weeks I tried to get a new version of mysql to extras-devel (http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/m/mysql-dfsg-5.0/). Therefore I updated the old version to

Re: Build Server Configuration

2010-01-26 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Jan 26, 2010, at 9:43 AM, Ove Kaaven wrote: Jeremiah Foster skrev: On Jan 25, 2010, at 22:27, Ed Bartosh wrote: 2010/1/25 Jeremiah Foster jerem...@jeremiahfoster.com: There are other build tools which are better documented and more flexible than sdbmock. Debian has a complete

Re: Build Server Configuration

2010-01-26 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Jan 26, 2010, at 10:16 AM, Jeremiah Foster wrote: without any assets of its own aside from SIP I mean SPI of course. (Software in the Public Interest.) Jeremiah ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org

Re: Build Server Configuration

2010-01-26 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Jan 26, 2010, at 1:05 PM, Ed Bartosh wrote: 2010/1/26 Jeremiah Foster jerem...@jeremiahfoster.com: What about tools like qemu and dpkg-cross? Can't they be used to build debs without scratchbox? And my goal is not to necessarily get rid of scratchbox, but rather enable alternatives

Is mauku open source, i.e free or is in non-free?

2010-01-26 Thread Jeremiah Foster
Hello, Bug #7505 asks if mauku is open or closed. According to the bug report, it looks pretty closed. https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7505 I installed mauku from the maemo extras free repository, believing it was Free Software, but trying to figure out which license it is under, I

Re: Quick start packaging guide

2010-01-25 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Jan 22, 2010, at 21:10, Dave Neary wrote: Hi all, Due to popular demand, I sat down this week with Jeremiah Foster, who explained to me the very quickest way to go about packaging an application. We didn't quite get to uploading to extras, but going from a .tar.gz to a correct .deb

Re: Build Server Configuration

2010-01-25 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Jan 23, 2010, at 12:07, Ed Bartosh wrote: 2010/1/23 Jeff Moe m...@blagblagblag.org: Could the configuration files of the build server and related scripts be put up on the wiki or mailed here or something? I had a build fail due to a small difference between the SDK and the buildbox.

Re: Build Server Configuration

2010-01-25 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Jan 25, 2010, at 16:22, Jeff Moe wrote: On Saturday 23 January 2010 04:07:48 Ed Bartosh wrote: 2010/1/23 Jeff Moe m...@blagblagblag.org: Could the configuration files of the build server and related scripts be put up on the wiki or mailed here or something? I had a build fail due to a

Re: Build Server Configuration

2010-01-25 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Jan 25, 2010, at 22:27, Ed Bartosh wrote: 2010/1/25 Jeremiah Foster jerem...@jeremiahfoster.com: There are other build tools which are better documented and more flexible than sdbmock. Debian has a complete toolchain which is obviously good at building debs and is completely open

Re: Engadget, developers, extras-dev and Maemo LTS

2010-01-24 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Jan 22, 2010, at 18:54, Aldon Hynes wrote: I would respectfully suggest that engadget's view, while representing the view of the person that wrote it, is perhaps no more or less representative of the views of users than views expressed by developers on this list. Except that Endgadget has

Re: Maemo extras repository package uploader/maintainer verification?

2010-01-22 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Jan 22, 2010, at 11:49 AM, Eero Tamminen wrote: Hi, I was recently notified that in extras repository some package for which I've been marked as maintainer, was causing an SSU (testing) issue. However, I hadn't uploaded that package. The package was from SDK tools repository were

Re: Maemo extras repository package uploader/maintainer verification?

2010-01-22 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Jan 22, 2010, at 2:19 PM, Ed Bartosh wrote: 2010/1/22 Andrew Flegg and...@bleb.org: On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:59, Simon Pickering s.g.picker...@bath.ac.uk wrote: I'd suggest that the autobuilder checks to see that the uploader's email address is included in one of the *Maintainer

Re: Maemo extras repository package uploader/maintainer verification?

2010-01-22 Thread Jeremiah Foster
-Original Message- From: maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org [mailto:maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of Simon Pickering Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 7:00 AM To: 'Jeremiah Foster'; maemo-developers@maemo.org Subject: RE: Maemo extras repository package uploader

Re: How to destroy your community

2010-01-21 Thread Jeremiah Foster
I thought I would post a snippet from the Endgadget review that represents the view of the users of Nokia's products. This is something that Nokia bears in mind, even if we at maemo.org don't always, we tend to be self-selecting geeks. After having dug in, we're seeing glimmers of brilliance

Re: Backwards compatibility broken PR1.1 SDK

2010-01-21 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Jan 21, 2010, at 1:35 AM, Graham Cobb wrote: On Wednesday 20 January 2010 21:50:02 Jeremiah Foster wrote: I disagree. Debian has very high quality packages and software. I don't think we are disagreeing. I am saying Debian is geared to stability and quality. I am just making

Re: Backwards compatibility broken PR1.1 SDK

2010-01-21 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Jan 21, 2010, at 1:35 AM, Graham Cobb wrote: On Wednesday 20 January 2010 21:50:02 Jeremiah Foster wrote: I disagree. Debian has very high quality packages and software. I don't think we are disagreeing. I am saying Debian is geared to stability and quality. I am just making

Re: Backwards compatibility broken PR1.1 SDK

2010-01-21 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Jan 21, 2010, at 3:54 PM, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: On 21/01/2010 11:46, Jeremiah Foster wrote: For software and tools I agree. But processes will be very different. Maemo is not aiming for a release every 18 months, Debian is. The official release time period is 24 months

Re: Package icon within Maemo package interface

2010-01-20 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Jan 20, 2010, at 1:19 PM, Luca Donaggio wrote: I've a (probably silly) question about package icons maemo package interface: - if I upload a new version of the same package with a different icon (urlencoded in debian/control) the corresponding package interface's instance of that

Re: How to destroy your community

2010-01-20 Thread Jeremiah Foster
Hello, Okay, so it's knives out is it? Fine. I have flame retardant underwear. :-) I know you want things to work smoothly, we all do. Believe me, the admins are working their butts off to make it so, they work long days and have been checking in on weekends too. I still see

Re: Autobuilder build error (unmet dependencies)

2010-01-20 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Jan 20, 2010, at 20:29, Niels Breet wrote: Is this an effect of the PR 1.1 problem and I have to rebuild libIllumination, too? Yes. What you see there is that libillumination0 is built against newer gstreamer and libosso (from pr1.1) The fastest way to solve this is to submit the

Re: Backwards compatibility broken PR1.1 SDK

2010-01-20 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Jan 20, 2010, at 17:32, Jeff Moe wrote: Can we, like with the opt problem, come to a solution with community power[tm]? For what it's worth, in the Fedora buildsystem (Koji), the buildsystem is running with the latest updates. Perhaps investigating what the various other distros do

Re: Backwards compatibility broken PR1.1 SDK

2010-01-20 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Jan 20, 2010, at 18:24, Graham Cobb wrote: On Wednesday 20 January 2010 16:32:23 Jeff Moe wrote: For what it's worth, in the Fedora buildsystem (Koji), the buildsystem is running with the latest updates. Perhaps investigating what the various other distros do (especially Debian) and doing

Re: How to destroy your community

2010-01-20 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Jan 20, 2010, at 23:21, Ryan Abel wrote: On Jan 20, 2010, at 1:04 PM, Jeff Moe wrote: I've seen frequent mentions of how distinct maemo.org is from Nokia. But the reality seems that nothing at Maemo can really happen without Nokia's tacit approval. Is there anyone that has server

Re: How to destroy your community

2010-01-19 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Jan 19, 2010, at 10:13 AM, tero.k...@nokia.com tero.k...@nokia.com wrote: Some gems: 1) It's also important to set up an official web site which is down as often as it's up. It's not enough to have no web site at all; in such situations, the community has an irritating habit of creating

Re: running application automatically at system startup

2010-01-19 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Jan 19, 2010, at 11:02 AM, Dave Neary wrote: Hi, Edward Page wrote: Is anyone collecting these How do I... questions and putting them on the wiki? http://wiki.maemo.org/Tutorials http://wiki.maemo.org/User_FAQ http://wiki.maemo.org/Developer_FAQ Psst... don't tell anyone, but

Re: Backwards compatibility broken PR1.1 SDK

2010-01-19 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Jan 19, 2010, at 15:20, Michael Cronenworth wrote: The user will be told why they can't update their little fart app. We don't have fart apps in Maemo. You're thinking of the iPhone. /facetiousness Jeremiah ___ maemo-developers mailing list

Re: Package building error with the armel target

2010-01-15 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Jan 15, 2010, at 12:30 AM, Petite Escalope wrote: Hello, I'm trying to build a package for the armel target but it fails on this error : dpkg-genchanges -b dpkg-genchanges: failure: cannot read files list file: No such file or directory Everything is working with x86 What's

Re: Extras-devel repository index out of control?

2010-01-15 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Jan 15, 2010, at 10:27 AM, Marius Vollmer wrote: Hi, even I have noticed now that apt uses a lot more space than it used to. One reason is that the package index files in the repository contain entries for multiple versions of a package. This increases the size of what apt has to

Re: User-specific files for maemo packages

2010-01-12 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Jan 11, 2010, at 9:55 PM, Till Harbaum / Lists wrote: Hi, Am Montag 11 Januar 2010 schrieb ibrahim: I wonder how can I put some user-specific files on the filesystem that can't get removed when my application package is uninstalled. I am not sure that this is a good idea. The user

Re: is 44-1 officially going to be available as an image ?

2010-01-12 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Jan 12, 2010, at 1:16 PM, Till Harbaum / Lists wrote: Hi, Am Dienstag 12 Januar 2010 schrieb Mikko Vartiainen: Any idea why my n900 doesn't see the update? Have you accidentally removed SSU metapackage (mp-fremantle-generic-pr)? Yes, i did. I once removed those pre-installed

Re: can't install application to phone from local repository

2010-01-06 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Jan 6, 2010, at 14:05, ibrahim wrote: Kees Jongenburger wrote: Hi ibrahim, On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 11:37 AM, ibrahim ibrahim@asgatech.com wrote: you might want to look a what extra's devel's structure looks like #source.list #extras-devel deb

Re: Mirrors

2010-01-03 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Jan 3, 2010, at 12:22, David Greaves wrote: Jeff Moe wrote: As far as I can tell, there are no mirrors of the repositories. Pretty sure Nokia/maemo.org went with a CDN which satisfies all the points you raised. The maemo.org infrastructure problems are more to do with dynamic content

Re: Proposal: Karma-Whores protection mailing list

2010-01-03 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Jan 2, 2010, at 21:54, Andrew Flegg wrote: On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 20:47, Micke Nordin mickew...@gmail.com wrote: Am I missing something? Doesn't optification basicaly mean that all you have to do is install a binary in your SDK and then you have to add a single line to the rulesfile?

Re: Mirrors

2010-01-03 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Jan 3, 2010, at 17:37, Jeff Moe wrote: On Sunday 03 January 2010 11:45:17 Jeremiah Foster wrote: On Jan 3, 2010, at 12:22, David Greaves wrote: Jeff Moe wrote: As far as I can tell, there are no mirrors of the repositories. Pretty sure Nokia/maemo.org went with a CDN which satisfies

Re: Autobuilder apt-get problems = failing builds

2010-01-03 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Jan 3, 2010, at 19:50, Andrew Flegg wrote: On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 14:37, Ed Bartosh bart...@gmail.com wrote: Anyway it was not working for a long time and people became confused. Would some kind of Big Brother/Tivoli/monitoring system be worthwhile investigating? And now I'm

Re: Mirrors

2010-01-03 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Jan 3, 2010, at 20:13, Jeff Moe wrote: On Sunday 03 January 2010 15:28:04 Jeremiah Foster wrote:. Bugs URLs please. Hard facts please, stuff we can present to Nokia and say: Akamai is not performing. The only bug I know of is: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5818 I have

Re: Mirrors

2010-01-03 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Jan 4, 2010, at 24:28, Jeff Moe wrote: It wasn't my intention to provide some big mirror for people to use myself, I was just suggesting the project have mirrors. Oh, I misunderstood. I thought you were offering to mirror the repos publicly. You just want your own local mirror. That

Re: Autobuilder apt-get problems = failing builds

2010-01-01 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Jan 1, 2010, at 15:00, Ed Bartosh wrote: 2010/1/1 Andrew Flegg and...@bleb.org: Hi, Attempting to upload a new version of vim to the Fremantle auto-builder, I get the following failure: https://garage.maemo.org/builder/fremantle/vim_7.2-0maemo6/armel.root.log.FAILED.txt Should

Uploading software to Maemo repos

2010-01-01 Thread Jeremiah Foster
Hi Bryan, My name is Jeremiah Foster and I am the debmaster at maemo.org. I have seen a lot of your uploads recently which duplicate what already exists in the maemo repositories. In fact, some of these things, like debconf for example, might conflict with the development environment

Re: Autobuilder apt-get problems = failing builds

2010-01-01 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Jan 1, 2010, at 15:12, Ed Bartosh wrote: 2010/1/1 Jeremiah Foster jerem...@jeremiahfoster.com: On Jan 1, 2010, at 15:00, Ed Bartosh wrote: 2010/1/1 Andrew Flegg and...@bleb.org: now why, because it was working just fine before. This reminds me aphorisms like 'Too many cooks spoil

Re: Uploading software to Maemo repos

2010-01-01 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Jan 1, 2010, at 16:22, Bryan Jacobs wrote: Jeremiah, I needed ss-dev, debconf-utils, and a few other packages which *were* built from the Nokia official sources but which *were not* present in any repository I could find. The packages I built which are also in the official Nokia

Re: Autobuilder apt-get problems = failing builds

2010-01-01 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Jan 1, 2010, at 16:00, Jeff Moe wrote: On Friday 01 January 2010 11:37:24 you wrote: 2010/1/1 Jeff Moe m...@blagblagblag.org: On Friday 01 January 2010 11:12:47 Ed Bartosh wrote: 2010/1/1 Jeremiah Foster jerem...@jeremiahfoster.com: On Jan 1, 2010, at 15:00, Ed Bartosh wrote: 2010/1/1

Re: Daemonizing Qt app

2009-12-31 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Dec 31, 2009, at 16:42, ibrahim wrote: case SIGHUP: log_message(LOG_FILE,hangup signal catched); Sorry to be pedantic, but the past tense of 'catch' is 'caught'. 'Catched' might be confused with 'cached' which is not what you want. Jeremiah

Re: How remove package from extra-devel free?

2009-12-19 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Dec 19, 2009, at 11:07, Arkady Glazov wrote: Hi, Can i drop my unuse pacakge from Maemo extras-devel repositories? Yes. In general it is best to contact someone about a package you want removed, usually that someone is Niels or myself. :) Is there any interface for it? At the moment

Re: Debhelper 7

2009-12-15 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Dec 14, 2009, at 14:02, Anderson Lizardo wrote: On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 7:15 AM, Marius Vollmer marius.voll...@nokia.com wrote: On balance, I think it is better to just stick to debhelper 5 in Fremantle. And from our experience in PyMaemo backporting various (but not that many)

Re: Debianisation help with packaging libgmphoult

2009-12-07 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On 12/6/09 12:37 PM, Simon Pickering wrote: Hello everyone I've packaged up and pushed libgmp to extras-devel, but obviously made a mistake in the Debianisation as it's trying to install a file to my build directory (so don't try installing it yet). I can guess why the code I inserted is

Re: Qt or GTK+ which is better for developement

2009-12-03 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Dec 3, 2009, at 12:07, Abdul Mateen wrote: Yes, I think I should start by developing on Qt for Maemo 5 and onwards, I am also curious about distribution of applications, like Android has Android Market maemo has Maemo Select but I saw one can not push paid apps into Maemo Select. Any

Re: Qt or GTK+ which is better for developement

2009-12-03 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Dec 3, 2009, at 15:31, Murray Cumming wrote: On Thu, 2009-12-03 at 13:31 +0100, Jeremiah Foster wrote: [snip] Maemo is based on debian which is a Free Software GNU / Linux distribution, so many of the libraries use LGPL or the GPL. This may have a bearing on your apps, so it often

Maemo superstars wanted on stackoverflow

2009-12-01 Thread Jeremiah Foster
Hi, Do any Maemo superstars want to post to Stackoverflow? There are some Maemo related questions there and they are not necessarily being answered by those who have the most knowledge in our community. I know that we can be pretty hermetic at times, sticking to our forums and

Re: Debhelper 7

2009-11-28 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Nov 28, 2009, at 16:00, Teemu Ikonen wrote: On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 3:02 PM, David Greaves da...@dgreaves.com wrote: Do you have a URL for the .dsc and tarball You can check out the sources by doing git clone git://gitorious.org/maemo-pkg/debhelper.git But, as said, the build fails.

Re: Updating the info for Extras-devel non-free

2009-11-27 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Nov 27, 2009, at 11:15, Quim Gil wrote: Hi, ext Jeremiah Foster wrote: I am hesitant here, some of the testing process may require source packages, either now or in the future. I am not certain that non-free packages deserve to get all the free quality assurance that the community

Re: Updating the info for Extras-devel non-free

2009-11-25 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Nov 25, 2009, at 11:49, tero.k...@nokia.com tero.k...@nokia.com wrote: -Original Message- From: maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org [mailto:maemo-developers- boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of Gil Quim (Nokia-D/Helsinki) Sent: 25 November, 2009 11:48 To: maemo developers Cc:

Re: Updating the info for Extras-devel non-free

2009-11-25 Thread Jeremiah Foster
We have had an ad-hoc solution which basically is that Niels takes care of non-free. Yet there are several non-free packages in extras-devel extras- testing / Extras. Can someone please update the wiki information reflecting the current practice for Maemo 5? I will try and make it

Re: Updating the info for Extras-devel non-free

2009-11-25 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Nov 25, 2009, at 15:11, Valerio Valerio wrote: Hi, On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Dave Neary dne...@maemo.org wrote: Hi, I know I'm not the only one confused here... Quim says: We are seeing more questions about this and actually the current information is misleading since it

Re: Updating the info for Extras-devel non-free

2009-11-25 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On 11/25/09 4:07 PM, Andrew Flegg wrote: On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 14:55, David Greavesda...@dgreaves.com wrote: Does the community really have so much spare resource that we can QA non-free (and presumably non-community) apps? fms/RST38h's emulators are non-free. However much I'd

Re: how to create a desktop applet

2009-11-18 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Nov 18, 2009, at 9:19, ibrahim wrote: Didn't work either. Maybe there is something wrong with the way i create packages: There isn't really a wrong or right way, just a way that works for you and allows the package to be installed according to policy. That said, there are some 'best

Re: no such file or directory

2009-11-16 Thread Jeremiah Foster
Hi Mohamed, On Nov 16, 2009, at 11:26, mohamed ismael wrote: It is customary to post your comments directly underneath the comments that were sent to you. This way we can 'weave' together a conversation that everyone can follow. :) i added the following line in my code #include libprofile.h

Re: no such file or directory?

2009-11-15 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Nov 15, 2009, at 9:10, mohamed ismael wrote: i added the following line in my code #include libprofile.h and i get the error no such file or directory Is this the exact error message? If it isn't, could you paste the exact error message in your mail? i am using esbox IDE and i

Re: popularity-contest (was Re: Follow up from QA meeting on IRC)

2009-11-12 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Nov 12, 2009, at 6:15, Quim Gil wrote: Hi, ext Edward Page wrote: Which reminds me, any reason Maemo doesn't use Debian's popularity contest? At least at a community level there is https://garage.maemo.org/projects/popcon/ Bas (the founder of that project) and I have been discussing

Re: Follow up from QA meeting on IRC

2009-11-12 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Nov 12, 2009, at 9:17, Dave Neary wrote: Hi, Edward Page wrote: To help remind people that there is a checklist and whats on it, should the rating page link to or include the criteria? Yes - that makes sense. I see there were no notes on the algorithm. A threshold of 10 was

Re: QA process = bug fixing disincentive?

2009-11-12 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Nov 12, 2009, at 4:50, Graham Cobb wrote: On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 04:29:55PM +0200, Marius Vollmer wrote: ext Thomas Perl th.p...@gmail.com writes: The following is a rant about XB-Maemo-Upgrade-Description with some suggestions for improvement... Yeah, as soon as I 'invented' it, I

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