I'm not seeing any significant improvement to this situation, and
Nokia's developers seem no less busy. So I'm still wasting time chasing
incredibly minor patches.
I still think a dedicated empowered community liason would fix this.
As ever, I'm not complaining so much as trying to suggest how
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I'm not seeing any significant improvement to this situation, and
Nokia's developers seem no less busy. So I'm still wasting time chasing
incredibly minor patches.
I still think a dedicated empowered community liason
ext Murray Cumming wrote:
I'm not seeing any significant improvement to this situation, and
Nokia's developers seem no less busy. So I'm still wasting time chasing
incredibly minor patches.
I still think a dedicated empowered community liason would fix this.
Murray, you have suggested this
ext Koen Kooi wrote:
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Murray Cumming schreef:
I'm not seeing any significant improvement to this situation, and
Nokia's developers seem no less busy. So I'm still wasting time chasing
incredibly minor patches.
I still think a dedicated empowered
2006/10/21, Carlos Guerreiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
ext Murray Cumming wrote:
I'm not seeing any significant improvement to this situation, and
Nokia's developers seem no less busy. So I'm still wasting time chasing
incredibly minor patches.
I still think a dedicated empowered community liason
ext koos vriezen wrote:
2006/10/21, Carlos Guerreiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
ext Murray Cumming wrote:
I'm not seeing any significant improvement to this situation, and
Nokia's developers seem no less busy. So I'm still wasting time
chasing
incredibly minor patches.
I still think a dedicated
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Behalf Of ext Dave Neuer
Sent: 12 May, 2006 00:02
To: Kothari Devesh (Nokia-M/Tampere)
Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org
Subject: Re: [maemo-developers] Too busy to accept help? I'm not
complaining
On 5/10/06
)
Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org
Subject: Re: [maemo-developers] Too busy to accept help? I'm not
complaining
I can remove all software for which I cannot access and re-publish the
source code and all of the hardware capabilities (power management,
DSP and whatever other little
On 5/10/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
can you be more specific ???
I can remove all software for which I cannot access and re-publish the
source code and all of the hardware capabilities (power management,
DSP and whatever other little doodads Nokia packed in there) are
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Behalf Of ext Dave Neuer
Sent: 04 May, 2006 23:39
To: Kothari Devesh (Nokia-M/Tampere)
Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org
Subject: Re: [maemo-developers] Too busy to accept help? I'm not
complaining
On 5/3/06
On 5/10/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Behalf Of ext Dave Neuer
Sent: 04 May, 2006 23:39
To: Kothari Devesh (Nokia-M/Tampere)
Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org
Subject: Re: [maemo-developers] Too
On 5/3/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, since you brought up truely open product and expectation
management, what are Nokia's expectations about when the 770 will be
a truely open product (i.e., I can run all free software on the device
Maemo 2.0 would take it closer,
On 4/20/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
no offense, it always look simpler from the other side. Developing and
bringing a product to market (in all my experience) is no simple task
combine that with new challenges working with open source, and OS communities,
new processes and at
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On ons, 2006-04-19 at 13:06 -0700, ext Shawn Gordon wrote:
[snip]
faster because it is done, has been used, refined, debugged and
developed for for years, so other than device drivers in the kernel
it wouldn't have taken hardly any time at all to get it up and running.
cheaper - I'm
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Shawn Gordon
Sent: 19 April, 2006 23:06
To: maemo-developers@maemo.org
Subject: Re: [maemo-developers] Too busy to accept help? I'm not
complaining
At 12:23 PM 4/19/2006, Philippe De Swert
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Subject: [maemo-developers] Too busy to accept help?
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 13:14:13 +0200
From: ext Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: maemo-developers@maemo.org
The Maemo community is alive, but not thriving as much as it
could
Weinehall David (Nokia-M/Tampere) wrote:
[snip]
Just using plain Qtopia wouldn't have been an option, just as using
plain GTK+ without Hildon wasn't an option; we had to use a UI that
looks somewhat like Nokia's earlier products, without forking too
wildly. So the work effort would've been the
On 4/20/06, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Weinehall David (Nokia-M/Tampere) wrote:
[snip]
Just using plain Qtopia wouldn't have been an option, just as using
plain GTK+ without Hildon wasn't an option; we had to use a UI that
looks somewhat like Nokia's earlier products, without
ext [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
And as i see right now, I am ready to take small baby steps [...]
First baby-step for you, Devesh: use a real mail program and not one
that corrupts your From: header... :-)
(From what I have heard, these annoying [EMAIL PROTECTED] addresses
are
Jussi Pakkanen wrote:
--- Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Correction. Qtopia is dual licensed, commercial and
GPL. GPL of course
has no licensing cost. The only legal difference
of GPL and LGPL is
that GPL insures derived sources remain open.
There is also the problem of free software
On 4/20/06, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kalle Vahlman wrote:
The only legal difference of GPL and LGPL is
that GPL insures derived sources remain open.
No. Sources will always remain open with LGPL too. It's the combining
and linking with non-free (in fact, any) licensed work
ext Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The Maemo community is alive, but not thriving as much as it could. This
is because the Nokia developers are so busy and are often unable to
respond to the simplest of requests for changes or information, and
often unable to even acknowledge that
Murray Cumming wrote:
The Maemo community is alive, but not thriving as much as it could. This
is because the Nokia developers are so busy and are often unable to
respond to the simplest of requests for changes or information, and
often unable to even acknowledge that contributions have been
disse -- Murray Cumming
originais - The Maemo community is alive, but not thriving as much as it could.
Perhaps there is some learning curve involved here. This has much to do with
both language and
cultural differences I think. A lot of 770 work is done at INdT in Manaus and
while this is
The product is on the market for less than half a year. There are
already tens of usable free software applications ported or created.
That's pretty impressive for the first 'open product' of such a big
company. I'm not complaining. I'm a pretty satisfied customer _and_
developer myself.
Just a
I've already got Nils slamming me privately because I dared to
mention Qtopia, but let me provide some perspective as a company who
was very successful with Qtopia and the Sharp Zaurus and what Sharp
and Trolltech did both right and wrong that Nokia could learn from (I
don't care if they use
Hello Shawn,
On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 11:59 -0700, Shawn Gordon wrote:
I've already got Nils slamming me privately because I dared to
mention Qtopia, but let me provide some perspective as a company who
was very successful with Qtopia and the Sharp Zaurus and what Sharp
and Trolltech did both
At 12:23 PM 4/19/2006, Philippe De Swert wrote:
Hello Shawn,
On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 11:59 -0700, Shawn Gordon wrote:
I've already got Nils slamming me privately because I dared to
mention Qtopia, but let me provide some perspective as a company who
was very successful with Qtopia and the
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