Re: Building Maemo OS from Source.

2010-03-22 Thread Marius Vollmer
Stoppa Igor (Nokia-D/Helsinki) igor.sto...@nokia.com writes: No at all: it's about standardization. The device must support a certain set of features and provide well defined APIs. So if a device is MeeGo compliant, it will be advertised as such. In my view, MeeGo is a development effort,

Re: Building Maemo OS from Source.

2010-03-22 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Mar 22, 2010, at 7:47 AM, Marius Vollmer wrote: Stoppa Igor (Nokia-D/Helsinki) igor.sto...@nokia.com writes: No at all: it's about standardization. The device must support a certain set of features and provide well defined APIs. So if a device is MeeGo compliant, it will be

Re: Building Maemo OS from Source.

2010-03-22 Thread Marius Vollmer
ext Jeremiah Foster jerem...@jeremiahfoster.com writes: On Mar 22, 2010, at 7:47 AM, Marius Vollmer wrote: In my view, MeeGo is a development effort, not a standardization effort. I am not convinced that this is true. It looks like MeeGo is going to track upstream closely with few

Re: Building Maemo OS from Source.

2010-03-22 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Mar 22, 2010, at 1:53 PM, Marius Vollmer wrote: ext Jeremiah Foster jerem...@jeremiahfoster.com writes: On Mar 22, 2010, at 7:47 AM, Marius Vollmer wrote: In my view, MeeGo is a development effort, not a standardization effort. I am not convinced that this is true. It looks like

Re: Building Maemo OS from Source.

2010-03-19 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia czwartek, 18 marca 2010 o 19:59:25 Samir Faci (Dev) napisał(a): Hmm.. any one know if meego will be completely open source?. Or is it too early to know for sure at this point. It was already said that Nokia devices running MeeGo will contain closed source components. So answer to your

Re: Building Maemo OS from Source.

2010-03-19 Thread Igor Stoppa
ext Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: Dnia czwartek, 18 marca 2010 o 19:59:25 Samir Faci (Dev) napisał(a): Hmm.. any one know if meego will be completely open source?. Or is it too early to know for sure at this point. It was already said that Nokia devices running MeeGo will contain closed

Re: Building Maemo OS from Source.

2010-03-19 Thread Ryan Abel
On Mar 19, 2010, at 7:42 AM, Igor Stoppa wrote: ext Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: Dnia czwartek, 18 marca 2010 o 19:59:25 Samir Faci (Dev) napisał(a): Hmm.. any one know if meego will be completely open source?. Or is it too early to know for sure at this point. It was already said

Re: Building Maemo OS from Source.

2010-03-19 Thread Igor Stoppa
ext Ryan Abel wrote: Well, except for the part where Nokia ends up marketing it as MeeGo. Oh, and Harmattan's, apparently, MeeGo, too, and it definitely has closed stuff at the platform level. Yeah . . . not confusing at all. ;) No at all: it's about standardization. The device must

Re: Building Maemo OS from Source.

2010-03-19 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia piątek, 19 marca 2010 o 12:42:17 Igor Stoppa napisał(a): ext Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: Dnia czwartek, 18 marca 2010 o 19:59:25 Samir Faci (Dev) napisał(a): Hmm.. any one know if meego will be completely open source?. Or is it too early to know for sure at this point. It was already

Re: Building Maemo OS from Source.

2010-03-19 Thread Igor Stoppa
ext Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: It was already said that Nokia devices running Nokia provided MeeGo based system will contain closed source components. So far no one told what base meego system contains and how useful it is. It depends on your intent and goals. I cannot comment on what

Re: Building Maemo OS from Source.

2010-03-19 Thread Ryan Abel
On Mar 19, 2010, at 8:52 AM, Igor Stoppa wrote: ext Ryan Abel wrote: Well, except for the part where Nokia ends up marketing it as MeeGo. Oh, and Harmattan's, apparently, MeeGo, too, and it definitely has closed stuff at the platform level. Yeah . . . not confusing at all. ;) No at

RE: Building Maemo OS from Source.

2010-03-19 Thread Igor.Stoppa
From: ext Ryan Abel [rabe...@gmail.com] Sent: 19 March 2010 23:43 Will it be advertised as such? Wording I've seen so far leads me to believe it'll be advertised as MeeGo not MeeGo-compliant. I guess we'll have to wait and see. The N900 box you might have states that it is certified for

Re: Building Maemo OS from Source.

2010-03-19 Thread Ryan Abel
On Mar 19, 2010, at 5:50 PM, igor.sto...@nokia.com igor.sto...@nokia.com wrote: From: ext Ryan Abel [rabe...@gmail.com] Sent: 19 March 2010 23:43 Will it be advertised as such? Wording I've seen so far leads me to believe it'll be advertised as MeeGo not MeeGo-compliant. I guess we'll

RE: Building Maemo OS from Source.

2010-03-19 Thread Igor.Stoppa
From: ext Ryan Abel [rabe...@gmail.com] Sent: 20 March 2010 00:06 Well, in Harmattans case, because it aint MeeGo at all. For anything else, well, I don't know. Until we know exactly how much of the platform is actually MeeGo it's impossible to say. But judging by the amount of

Re: Building Maemo OS from Source.

2010-03-19 Thread Ryan Abel
On Mar 19, 2010, at 6:15 PM, igor.sto...@nokia.com wrote: From: ext Ryan Abel [rabe...@gmail.com] Sent: 20 March 2010 00:06 Well, in Harmattans case, because it aint MeeGo at all. For anything else, well, I don't know. Until we know exactly how much of the platform is actually MeeGo it's

Building Maemo OS from Source.

2010-03-18 Thread Samir Faci (Dev)
I was wondering if anyone has gone through the process of building the entire maemo operating system from source and if this has been documented anywhere? Basically, I'm looking for something that allows me to build the entire thing, make minor modifications... and be able to re-flash it to my

Re: Building Maemo OS from Source.

2010-03-18 Thread Samir Faci (Dev)
Hmm.. any one know if meego will be completely open source?. Or is it too early to know for sure at this point. -- Samir Faci On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Joseph Charpak josephchar...@comcast.net wrote: On Thu, 2010-03-18 at 12:37 -0500, Samir Faci (Dev) wrote: I was wondering if anyone

Re: Building Maemo OS from Source.

2010-03-18 Thread Joseph Charpak
On Thu, 2010-03-18 at 13:32 -0500, Samir Faci wrote: Hmm.. any one know if meego will be completely open source?. There's the usual frustration with a lot of press release marketing-speak going around but the short version is that there will be at least a base version of Meego which will be