[maemo-developers] scratchbox2

2006-12-26 Thread Lauri Leukkunen
Hi, As a general FYI to anyone who's using Scratchbox and thinks it's a bloated steaming pile of sauerkraut, I hereby announce the availability of something infinitely better: Scratchbox2!! :) There's no actual release yet, but the git version of sb2 is pretty good for developers who want to

[maemo-developers] scratchbox2 progress

2007-01-10 Thread Lauri Leukkunen
Hello, I had a quite pleasant surprise today when I noticed that fakeroot just works with SB2. This means that it is possible that debian packaging tools could work. I'm not saying they do, and I can't test them myself, but anyone who has experience in working with them, and who is not afraid

sbox2 update

2007-03-11 Thread Lauri Leukkunen
Hi, sb2 is able to build maemo-mapper using dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -d This was done on AMD64 Debian/Etch system using my own toolchain and etch's 0.90 version of qemu-arm. You can get both sb2 and the toolchain from http://rahina.org/sb2/ The toolchain is for AMD64 systems, for 32bit

Re: NPTL support?

2007-03-12 Thread Lauri Leukkunen
Bleh, damn gmail.. Sent this directly to Taneli, here's the same for the list as well: http://rahina.org/sb2/arm-lltc-gcc412-glibc25.tar.bz2 Not just the glibc, but you can extract it from there. The toolchain itself is built for amd64. /lauri On 3/12/07, Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We

Re: sbox2 update

2007-03-13 Thread Lauri Leukkunen
On 3/13/07, Laurent GUERBY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2007-03-12 at 02:59 +0200, Lauri Leukkunen wrote: $ cd ~/work/maemo/sbox2 $ /home/guerby/work/maemo/scratchbox/bin/sb2-build-libtool.sh ... Making install in . make[1]: Entering directory `/home/guerby/work/maemo/sbox2/libtool_build

Re: sbox2 update

2007-03-13 Thread Lauri Leukkunen
On 3/13/07, Laurent GUERBY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/work/maemo$ head -1 scratchbox/bin/sb2 #!/bin/bash [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/work/maemo$ ./scratchbox/bin/sb2 Running scratchbox with these settings: SBOX_LIBSB2 = /home/guerby/work/maemo/scratchbox/lib/libsb2.so

Re: sbox2 update

2007-03-13 Thread Lauri Leukkunen
On 3/14/07, Laurent GUERBY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2007-03-14 at 00:07 +0200, Lauri Leukkunen wrote: Oh, and please update your sbox2 first, I fixed some stuff ;) Simply git pull from the repo, ./autogen.sh ./configure etc. etc. I did the pull autogen etc... Here are the result

Re: sbox2 update

2007-03-14 Thread Lauri Leukkunen
On 14/03/07 12:50 +0100, Laurent GUERBY wrote: You have to append the /bin here; the name is a bit misleading. Thanks, this worked (I reinstalled everything from scratch to be safe): Cool ;) Is there any package where a rebuild should work out of the box? (and what is the exact rebuild

Re: Which Scratchbox for 64bit?

2007-03-14 Thread Lauri Leukkunen
On 14/03/07 14:28 +0100, Luca Donaggio wrote: - installing Scratchbox2 using Lauri Leukkunen's toolchain for amd64 (it seems that it can generate compatible arm debs, but can I develop under sb2 as well? I mean can I setup an i386 target and launch af-sb-init.sh etc.?) I'd be really happy if

Re: sbox2 update

2007-03-14 Thread Lauri Leukkunen
On 3/14/07, Laurent GUERBY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After installing a bunch of missing packages on my amd64 feisty box, I'm now stuck at some obscure automake-1.7 messages whil trying to build maemo-mapper-1.4.3. May be I didn't untar in the right directory? It shouldn't matter, but I

Re: sbox2 update

2007-03-14 Thread Lauri Leukkunen
On 3/14/07, Laurent GUERBY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After that: bash: cd: /usr/share/glib-2.0/gettext: No such file or directory Outside of sb2 I do have the mentionned directory: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/work/maemo/scratchbox$ ls -l /usr/share/glib-2.0/gettext total 8 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1988

Re: NPTL support?

2007-03-16 Thread Lauri Leukkunen
On 3/16/07, T Taneli Vahakangas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a project (at work, closed source). I can build it with debian/etch or sb1. With sb2 it gets stuck (or rather, eats all available memory ...) at the first step: I don't think it's the toolchain ;) Probably sb2. % autoreconf -i

sb2 wishlist

2007-04-11 Thread Lauri Leukkunen
Hello, It would be nice if Nokia or some other entity with money or available resources would sponsor or provide these items for SB2: - apt and dpkg support - these seem to be quite critical for Maemo usage - tutorial (html and pdf, max. 4 pages) - documentation, primarily man pages - testing

Re: Scratchbox and maemo development (was Re: sb2 wishlist)

2007-04-12 Thread Lauri Leukkunen
On 4/12/07, Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 03:06 +0300, ext Lauri Leukkunen wrote: Said that, the main elements to consider are: - Development via Scratchbox vs development models bypassing SB - SB vs SB2 snip Several pieces moving around, we need to consider all

Re: Scratchbox and maemo development (was Re: sb2 wishlist)

2007-04-12 Thread Lauri Leukkunen
On 4/12/07, Kalle Vahlman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2007/4/12, Lauri Leukkunen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 4/12/07, Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 03:06 +0300, ext Lauri Leukkunen wrote: Said that, the main elements to consider are: - Development via Scratchbox vs

Re: Scratchbox and maemo development (was Re: sb2 wishlist)

2007-04-12 Thread Lauri Leukkunen
On 4/12/07, Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh my. On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 11:29 +0300, ext Lauri Leukkunen wrote: I'm not entirely sure how to interprete this. You're basically saying that Nokia is considering dropping scratchbox and the debian integration model and replacing

Re: sb2 wishlist

2007-04-12 Thread Lauri Leukkunen
On 4/12/07, Guillem Jover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 03:06:11 +0300, ext Lauri Leukkunen wrote: It would be nice if Nokia or some other entity with money or available resources would sponsor or provide these items for SB2: - apt and dpkg support - these seem to be quite

sbox2 maemo

2007-07-25 Thread Lauri Leukkunen
Hi, Scratchbox2 can now be found in debian, unstable and testing carry frequently updated releases of it. I've been going over a number of packages trying to test it. I think it's pretty good considering the limited amount of people using it, and the fact that the public maemo rootstraps are an

Re: sbox2 maemo

2007-07-26 Thread Lauri Leukkunen
On 7/26/07, Marius Vollmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From my point of view, the host and target distributions should be as independent as possible. The host could be Debian, or Redhat, or Nokia's internal Linux, or OSX, or even Windows. There are many, many ways to solve this, starting from

Re: sbox2 maemo

2007-07-26 Thread Lauri Leukkunen
On 7/26/07, Carlos Guerreiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As long as Nokia works in the current, essentially forked, mode, nothing will happen. Nokia needs to look at the way it interacts with upstream projects and change. Sure it can be painful, but hiding behind a smoke-screen of product

Re: sbox2 maemo

2007-07-31 Thread Lauri Leukkunen
On 31/07/07 11:56 +0300, ext Marius Vollmer wrote: Also, both sbox1 and sbox2 redirect whole packages, not just binaries (if I understand sbox2 correctly). E.g., when redirecting the perl command, the redirected-to perl will take its modules from the redirected-to prefix, not from the

Re: sbox2 maemo

2007-07-31 Thread Lauri Leukkunen
On 31/07/07 13:52 +0300, Igor Stoppa wrote: On Tue, 2007-07-31 at 13:11 +0300, ext Lauri Leukkunen wrote: You could take the current emulate mode as a template and start adding to that your exceptions. Maybe it's a matter of sb developer's vs sb user's point of view, but I would rather

Re: sbox2 maemo

2007-08-01 Thread Lauri Leukkunen
On 31/07/07 13:11 +0300, Lauri Leukkunen wrote: On 31/07/07 11:56 +0300, ext Marius Vollmer wrote: That way, all binaries can be replaced that are used a lot during compilation and are too slow to be emulated: /bin/sh, m4, awk, make, perl, gcc, binutils, but not much more. Packages like

Re: 3.2007.10-7 - Detailed change log?

2007-08-06 Thread Lauri Leukkunen
On 06/08/07 16:10 +0300, ext Eero Tamminen wrote: * _No_ other distro is providing bugfix list for releases, so I don't see why it's so huge deal Maemo not providing one either. I guess it's a deal for those who want to maintain another distro based on the maemo components but not the

Re: Software categories

2007-08-17 Thread Lauri Leukkunen
On 17/08/07 11:37 +0300, ext Ed Bartosh wrote: BTW, Debian and other linux distributions proved central repository concept long time ago. I have no idea why we didn't follow it from the start, but re-invented Windows-like one-click installations instead. I remember. We were supposed to shave

sbox2 supports 32bit tools on 64bit host

2007-08-22 Thread Lauri Leukkunen
Hi, Just got it to work, this means CodeSourcery toolchains can be used with sb2 also on amd64 hosts. The latest 1.99.0.13 release of sb2 contains this. /lauri ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org

sbox2 mapping mode rework

2007-09-04 Thread Lauri Leukkunen
Hi, I changed sbox2 default mapping style so that it by default uses files from the host and only maps the bare minimum to target buildroot. This simplified the rules dramatically and I think it means that most tools will just work and only special cases like apt, dpkg, gcc and qemu need special

Chinook rootstraps and scratchbox2

2007-09-19 Thread Lauri Leukkunen
Hi, Would it be possible to add easy to find links to the downloadable files somewhere on the web page? Currently I have to rummage through some shell scripts to see where it's downloading them from. The installation script is not useful for scratchbox2. The chinook rootstrap seems to be a very

Re: Ideas for Diablo and Elephanta

2007-09-24 Thread Lauri Leukkunen
On 24/09/07 07:14 +0300, Quim Gil wrote: Hi, until now we have gathered some ideas about *platform* improvements, but nothing about the *developer platform* itself: are you totally happy about the SDK and the developer tools? Enhancement proposals for repositories, documentation, maemo.org,

Re: Maemo development on Mac OS X

2007-12-19 Thread Lauri Leukkunen
On 19/12/07 13:03 +, ext Daniel Bainton wrote: On 12/19/07, Julio Biason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, I just got a MacBook Pro and I was wondering if there is a way to install a Maemo development on it. I know I can run a Linux box inside Parallels/VMWare, but I was wondering

Re: Curious: Maemo devices other than Nokia?

2008-01-21 Thread Lauri Leukkunen
On 22/01/08 00:00 +0300, ext Mikhail Sobolev wrote: On Mon, Jan 21, 2008 at 09:16:38PM +0100, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Please take a look into OpenEmbedded, which makes building images for various machine types very easy. The configurations for the Nokia internet tablets are supported,