Re: [Mageia-dev] Support of grub2 in the installer/drakboot

2012-10-10 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
2012/10/8 Manuel Hiebel manuel.mag...@hiebel.eu Le 08/10/2012 15:27, Nicolas Lécureuil a écrit : Hi, is there any plans to add grub2 support ? is there someone already working on it ? regards, Nicolas. PoK started something in Mandriva with the classical installer, maybe Rosa too.

Re: [Mageia-dev] The shiny new Control Center

2012-10-10 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
2012/9/30 Steven Tucker tux...@gmail.com If it was my language of choice I would be writing it in C++. It was 100% due to discussions on the list and in IRC that led to writing it in Perl. As noted, I have previously never written any Perl, and so it would not have been my first or even

Re: [Mageia-dev] RIP Eugeni Dodonov

2012-07-10 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
2012/7/9 David Walser luigiwal...@yahoo.com: Phoronix has reported that Eugeni Dodonov, a developer many of us know from his time working at Mandriva, has been killed in an accident over the weekend. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=MTEzNTk I am very sad to learn of this,

Re: [Mageia-dev] Collaboration policy

2012-06-19 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
2012/6/18 Colin Guthrie mag...@colin.guthr.ie: 'Twas brillig, and Olivier Blin at 14/06/12 22:25 did gyre and gimble: David Walser luigiwal...@yahoo.com writes: Olivier Blin mageia@... writes: Crediting patchs from others by only mentionning the source (i.e. Mandriva, Fedora, XBMC, ...) is

[Mageia-dev] [PATCH]: fix %setup with ruby gems for rpmbuild

2012-06-15 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
Hi! Attached you'll find an updated version of the patch that gives %setup special behaviour for ruby gems. This takes care of automatically extracting the data.tar.gz as well so that it's no longer necessary to manually extract it after %setup in %prep. It also replaces use of the obsolete

Re: [Mageia-dev] mdv mga2 live upgrade failure

2012-05-27 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
2012/5/27 Thierry Vignaud thierry.vign...@gmail.com: Hi We have a failure when live-upgrading mdv to mga2 (using gurpmi). It looks like we already have this failure when upgrading mlga /usr/bin/perl: symbol lookup error:

Re: [Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx

2012-03-10 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
Den 14:15 10. mars 2012 skrev eatdirt dirt...@gmail.com følgende: On 10/03/12 10:12, Maarten Vanraes wrote: I have a pentium 66MHz (not MMX) With a divide by zero bug? :o) With the turbo button 33 - 66 ? Man, that's a proper collector :) You're confusing with 486. :p -- Regards, Per Øyvind

Re: [Mageia-dev] executable libraries

2012-03-02 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
Den 23:05 1. mars 2012 skrev Anssi Hannula an...@mageia.org følgende: 02.03.2012 00:03, Maarten Vanraes kirjoitti: Op donderdag 01 maart 2012 22:54:59 schreef Anssi Hannula: 01.03.2012 23:36, Pascal Terjan kirjoitti: I would say it doesn't matter and would not spend any time on it

Re: [Mageia-dev] executable libraries

2012-03-02 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
Den 21:51 2. mars 2012 skrev Maarten Vanraes al...@rmail.be følgende: Op vrijdag 02 maart 2012 21:29:05 schreef Anssi Hannula: 02.03.2012 21:57, Maarten Vanraes kirjoitti: Op vrijdag 02 maart 2012 15:22:23 schreef Anssi Hannula: 02.03.2012 00:17, Maarten Vanraes kirjoitti: Op donderdag 01

Re: [Mageia-dev] executable libraries

2012-03-01 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
Den 23:17 1. mars 2012 skrev Maarten Vanraes al...@rmail.be følgende: Op donderdag 01 maart 2012 23:05:35 schreef Anssi Hannula: [...] does this mean debug info fails for these? I'm not immediately sure (I never remember how the debug/stripping stuff works exactly), but I think either a)

Re: [Mageia-dev] executable libraries

2012-03-01 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
Den 23:45 1. mars 2012 skrev Maarten Vanraes al...@rmail.be følgende: Op donderdag 01 maart 2012 23:37:02 schreef Per Øyvind Karlsen: [...] rpmlint already has a check for unstripped files at least.. :) does it also check only executable files? No. -- Regards, Per Øyvind

Re: [Mageia-dev] [ANN] unbloated installer stage1

2012-01-24 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
Den 13:09 24. januar 2012 skrev Thierry Vignaud thierry.vign...@gmail.com følgende: Hi Over the years, stage1 (both  all.rdz, boot.iso, ...) got bigger bigger: 10.0-10.1: 8Mo 10.2-2005: 15M      === 2006.0: 13M 2007.0: 14M 2007.1: 10M 2008.0-2008.1: 12M 2009.0: 26M      ===

Re: [Mageia-dev] [ANN] unbloated installer stage1

2012-01-24 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
Den 22:03 24. januar 2012 skrev Per Øyvind Karlsen peroyv...@mandriva.org følgende: Den 13:09 24. januar 2012 skrev Thierry Vignaud - include a static mke2fs (compiled against dietlibc) busybox has a mke2fs implementation btw. ;)

Re: [Mageia-dev] qtwebkit libification problem

2011-12-28 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
Den 22:26 18. desember 2011 skrev Colin Guthrie mag...@colin.guthr.ie følgende: [colin@jimmy ~]$ rpm -qf /usr/lib/qt4/imports/QtWebKit/libqmlwebkitplugin.so lib64qtwebkit2.2_4-2.2.0-1.mga2 libqtwebkit2.2_4-2.2.0-1.mga2 Strangely RPM let me install both arches even tho' the file is different

Re: [Mageia-dev] RFP: commenting obsoletes for later removal

2011-12-28 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
Den 14:13 17. desember 2011 skrev Maarten Vanraes al...@rmail.be følgende: Hi all, Annsi, misc and myself were discussing obsoletes, and i think we should make a policy for a structured comment, so that later (in some timeperiod that's as of yet unspecified) we can remove older obsoletes in a

Re: [Mageia-dev] HEADSUP: glibc-2.14.1 landing...

2011-10-21 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
2011/10/21 Thomas Backlund t...@mageia.org: 21.10.2011 20:22, Thomas Backlund skrev: So, Thierry confirmed he does not get any segfaults anymore, and it's stable here too, so I will push it to Cauldron /release now... Please note that I have to wait until glibc-2.14.1-1.mga2 is built and

[Mageia-dev] RPM features/issues/wishlist

2011-10-14 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
I've started to ramble on some of the features, issues, ideas etc. to work on and consider for our (Mandriva Linux) next development cycle, and in the interest of sharing work and coordinating efforts with others, while inviting others to contribute:

Re: [Mageia-dev] RPM features/issues/wishlist

2011-10-14 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
2011/10/14 nicolas vigier bo...@mars-attacks.org: On Fri, 14 Oct 2011, Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote: I've started to ramble on some of the features, issues, ideas etc. to work on and consider for our (Mandriva Linux) next development cycle, and in the interest of sharing work and coordinating

Re: [Mageia-dev] RPM features/issues/wishlist

2011-10-14 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
2011/10/14 nicolas vigier bo...@mars-attacks.org: On Fri, 14 Oct 2011, Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote: 2011/10/14 nicolas vigier bo...@mars-attacks.org: On Fri, 14 Oct 2011, Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote: I've started to ramble on some of the features, issues, ideas etc. to work on and consider

Re: [Mageia-dev] RPM features/issues/wishlist

2011-10-14 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
2011/10/14 Florian Hubold doktor5...@arcor.de: Am 14.10.2011 16:19, schrieb Per Øyvind Karlsen: I've started to ramble on some of the features, issues, ideas etc. to work on and consider for our (Mandriva Linux) next development cycle, and in the interest of sharing work and coordinating

Re: [Mageia-dev] RPM features/issues/wishlist

2011-10-14 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
2011/10/14 Samuel Verschelde sto...@laposte.net: Le vendredi 14 octobre 2011 16:19:18, Per Øyvind Karlsen a écrit : I've started to ramble on some of the features, issues, ideas etc. to work on and consider for our (Mandriva Linux) next development cycle, and in the interest of sharing work

Re: [Mageia-dev] RPM features/issues/wishlist

2011-10-14 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
2011/10/14 Samuel Verschelde sto...@laposte.net: Le vendredi 14 octobre 2011 19:30:01, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : Le vendredi 14 octobre 2011 16:19:18, Per Øyvind Karlsen a écrit : I've started to ramble on some of the features, issues, ideas etc. to work on and consider for our (Mandriva

Re: [Mageia-dev] RPM features/issues/wishlist

2011-10-14 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
2011/10/14 Donald Stewart watersnowr...@gmail.com: On 14 October 2011 11:36, Samuel Verschelde sto...@laposte.net wrote: Le vendredi 14 octobre 2011 20:33:29, Per Øyvind Karlsen a écrit : 2011/10/14 Samuel Verschelde sto...@laposte.net: Le vendredi 14 octobre 2011 19:30:01, Samuel Verschelde

Re: [Mageia-dev] RPM features/issues/wishlist

2011-10-14 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
2011/10/15 Donald Stewart watersnowr...@gmail.com: The thing about packagekit, well most graphical frontends package management (pm) is that they dont really need to be that functional. I pretty much agree on that, but I'm not sure if everyone does though.. By that I mean that yes it is great

Re: [Mageia-dev] gstreamer packaging too split?

2011-07-06 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
2011/7/6 Ahmad Samir ahmadsamir3...@gmail.com: On 6 July 2011 15:09, Christiaan Welvaart c...@daneel.dyndns.org wrote: On Wed, 6 Jul 2011, Colin Guthrie wrote: Yeah it is a bit of a grab-bag of stuff, but again, should we still just bundle everything together anyway and sod the extra disk

Re: [Mageia-dev] Switching from Cooker to Cauldron?

2011-06-09 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
2011/6/9 Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl: Hello, Now that GNOME3 is being imported to Cauldron, I'd like to switch my Mandriva Cooker installation to Cauldron. However, Cooker has a different rpm for a while and I have that installed. I'm guessing if I attempt to switch to Cauldron, it

Re: [Mageia-dev] Switching from Cooker to Cauldron?

2011-06-09 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
2011/6/9 Christiaan Welvaart c...@daneel.dyndns.org: On Thu, 9 Jun 2011, Olav Vitters wrote: I'm guessing if I attempt to switch to Cauldron, it likely cannot read the rpm5 database. I can only think of a few things: 1. Create a new partition, install Mageia 1 on that, switch to Cauldron,

Re: [Mageia-dev] RPM5 AND MAGEIA

2011-03-08 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
2011/3/8 Balcaen John balcaen.j...@gmail.com: Le Tuesday 08 March 2011 18:11:11, Per Øyvind Karlsen a écrit :e [...] Tsktsk, my post probably ends up being labelled as flamebait, troll, too long and boring, biased and what not.. [...] This list is not write only... I know, could've done

Re: [Mageia-dev] RPM5 AND MAGEIA

2011-03-08 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
2011/3/9 Hoyt Duff hoytd...@gmail.com: On 3/8/11, Per Øyvind Karlsen peroyv...@mandriva.org wrote: 2011/3/8 Balcaen John balcaen.j...@gmail.com: Le Tuesday 08 March 2011 18:11:11, Per Øyvind Karlsen a écrit : I know, could've done better to get points across with shorter and greater

Re: [Mageia-dev] RPM5 AND MAGEIA

2011-03-08 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
2011/3/9 Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org: Le mardi 08 mars 2011 à 23:59 +0100, Raphaël Jadot a écrit : The mails are hard to read, and long, and very technicals,  but what catched my eyes is some things like level of compatibility between Mageia rpm5 is far greater than any other (with other

Re: [Mageia-dev] RPM5 AND MAGEIA

2011-03-08 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
2011/3/9 Pierre Jarillon jaril...@abul.org: Le mercredi 9 mars 2011 00:44:41, Per Øyvind Karlsen a écrit : subject/thread for now instead of talking again again about the fantastic rpm(5).org feature/upstream/it's a revolution/another apple commercial Sure, rpm5 is a good software but I

Re: [Mageia-dev] RPM5 AND MAGEIA

2011-03-08 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
2011/3/9 nicolas vigier bo...@mars-attacks.org: On Wed, 09 Mar 2011, Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote: it works well at exploiting the short attention span and lack of interest from many, weeding out ignorant dumbshit and FUD from people I have no interest in any input from to begin with.. Exactly

Re: [Mageia-dev] About panotools patent problem (and other problematic rpms)

2011-02-19 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
2011/2/18 Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org: Le vendredi 18 février 2011 à 12:47 +, James Kerr a écrit : If there are two packages, one in core and another in tainted, then doesn't urpmi need a way to recognise that the tainted package is newer than (an update to) the corresponding core

Re: [Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax

2011-01-17 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
2011/1/17 Florian Hubold doktor5...@arcor.de: Am 15.01.2011 11:08, schrieb Remy CLOUARD: http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=spec_syntax Please review this page as it’s one of the most important one for the beginning of the mentoring process, with the RPM Howto page (yet to be imported). I

Re: [Mageia-dev] Proposal for Mageia: implement bitorrent protocol to allow updates download

2011-01-17 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
2011/1/12 Marcello Anni marcello.a...@alice.it: Thanks Olivier, for saying this much better than I could wobo, yet another mirror maintainer yes wobo, but  except Per Øyvind no one has really answered to my question... PS: you should really look into the research papers pointed to before even

Re: [Mageia-dev] Proposal for Mageia: implement bitorrent protocol to allow updates download

2011-01-11 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
2011/1/12 Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org: Le mardi 11 janvier 2011 à 20:03 +0100, Marcello Anni a écrit : hi all, i have one question (maybe it can be a proposal): is it possible to implement the torrent protocol to faster download the updates of the distro? it could be an interesting

Re: [Mageia-dev] packages importing: what replaces rpm-mandriva-setup-build

2011-01-08 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
2011/1/9 Anssi Hannula anssi.hann...@iki.fi: On 08.01.2011 17:08, Jerome Quelin wrote: hi, perl does:     BuildRequires: rpm-mandriva-setup-build = 1.8 what should it be translated to? rpm-mageia-setup-build? or nothing at all, since we'll have the latest greatest version? :-) I'd say

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Cooker] [RFC] Ruby packaging policy

2011-01-07 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
2011/1/7 Remy CLOUARD shikam...@mandriva.org: Hello there, It’s been quite some time since I started working on ruby modules, and I’ve been working on the policy too. \o/ You can find the page here: http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Policies/Ruby Now, there are some things that still need to be