On 6 October 2010 05:02, Fernando Parra gato2...@yahoo.com.mx wrote:
On Tue, 5 Oct 2010 15:47:20 +0200
Ahmad Samir ahmadsamir3891-re5jqeeqqe8avxtiumw...@public.gmane.org wrote:
On 5 October 2010 15:28, Tux99
tux99-mga-ju+53dptyrfafugrpc6...@public.gmane.org wrote:
Personally I think
Le 6 octobre 2010 08:15, Raphaël Jadot ashledom...@hodo.fr a écrit :
2010/10/6 Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org:
I do. I even update them more often. And you would be surprised to see
that it doesn't create as much problem as you can think, if the sysadmin
is competent enough.
However many
Quote: Michael Scherer wrote on Wed, 06 October 2010 05:07
Are you serious? Upgrading a server every 18 months?
I do. I even update them more often. And you would be surprised to see
that it doesn't create as much problem as you can think, if the
sysadmin
is competent enough.
Well,
Le Wed, 06 Oct 2010 13:33:02 +0200,
Eatdirt dirt...@gmail.com a écrit :
what do you think about no release cycle at all?
Someone has answered this question yet.
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Le Wed, 06 Oct 2010 13:35:45 +0200,
Eatdirt dirt...@gmail.com a écrit :
I missed your post and spam the thread with the same suggestion... :-/
no soucy ;)
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Michael Scherer skrev 6.10.2010 13:20:
Le mardi 05 octobre 2010 à 23:06 +0100, Buchan Milne a écrit :
As long as it doesn't take the focus off the development release. In
Mandriva,
I think there were some uploads to backports before the upload to
cooker,
which can cause problems for users
On 6 October 2010 15:06, Buchan Milne bgmi...@multilinks.com wrote:
If you disagree, run cooker for 6 months with 'urpmi --auto-update' in
cron.daily. If you never have *any* issues, without any breakage at all, I
might believe you.
Hell, I did for 10.5 years.
There weren't that much breakage
On 06/10/10 15:09, Buchan Milne wrote:
And if you need one specific new package, you will need to upgrade the majority
of your distribution ...
And it is only useful to 1% of the global population.
We don't want the entire Mageia userbase to be almost identical to the number
of people who
2010/10/6 Tux99 tux99-...@uridium.org:
I can say
for sure that the majority of 'normal' (non-geeks) users FEAR AND EVEN
HATE distro upgrades, they just want to be able to install new versions of
apps, not risky complete distro upgrades.
I agree, even though all good reasons have been given
Raphaël Jadot wrote:
2010/10/6 Maarten Vanraes
maarten.vanraes-re5jqeeqqe8avxtiumw...@public.gmane.org:
This is non-sensical; i will never choose Centos for a server, if i was
to have a bug, where would i go with it???
http://www.centos.org/ click on support :)
If you need
Le mercredi 06 octobre 2010 à 16:55 +0200, Tux99 a écrit :
Well, I don't think we will ever come to an agreement especially as it
seems that former mdv devs here seem to be very reluctant to change
anything about the release cycle.
Well, the first step to a agreement is to explain clearly
* Buchan Milne (bgmi...@multilinks.com) wrote:
On Tuesday, 5 October 2010 23:39:09 Tux99 wrote:
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, nicolas vigier wrote:
3) I mentioned earlier that the packager would need to use good
judgement and not include major incompatible version changes
You are aware that this
Le mercredi 06 octobre 2010 à 18:42 +0200, Olivier Thauvin a écrit :
So, why not alternate both, 1 release with backports denied but long
life, and the 2nd with backports and update but during a shorter period.
(X.0 would be the new distro with backports, X.1 the one more servers
oriented or
* R James (upsn...@gmail.com) wrote:
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org wrote:
Le mercredi 06 octobre 2010 à 18:42 +0200, Olivier Thauvin a écrit :
What is the typical deployment period for servers?
At the company where I work, they're leased for 3 years.
If
On mercredi 06 octobre 2010 at 17:02, Eatdirt wrote :
If all pro around are against this, I think we should at least be able
to upgrade a version directly from urpmi without the boot iso CD story!
That has been possible for some years already, and I have done it a few
times, although I think
Personally as a future Mageia packager I will try to concentrate on making
backports (apart from maintaining some specific packages) so in a way I
will be helping to make Mageia in practice a sort of 'light' rolling
distro as suggested by a few people in this thread.
But I just want to say that
Op woensdag 06 oktober 2010 16:55:48 schreef Tux99:
Well, I don't think we will ever come to an agreement especially as it
seems that former mdv devs here seem to be very reluctant to change
anything about the release cycle.
Personally as a future Mageia packager I will try to concentrate on
Le 06/10/2010 20:31, Michael Scherer a écrit :
Le mercredi 06 octobre 2010 à 14:55 -0300, Gustavo Giampaoli a écrit :
So a one year release cycle with lots of app backports (and maybe a kernel
backport mid-cycle if there is important new hardware support) is IMHO the
best release cycle for
On Wed, 06 Oct 2010 17:02:59 +0200, Eatdirt wrote about Re: [Mageia-dev]
How will be the realese cycle?:
If all pro around are against this, I think we should at least be able
to upgrade a version directly from urpmi without the boot iso CD story!
I do that every year or so with my @home
Selecting an Education based install (which could be used with other
software selections is what I had in mind.
This could be called the Education software group (for want of a
better name).
Like that you don't need a special Education version, it's the same
DVD for everyone.
Of course, the
Am 29.09.2010 21:12, schrieb Ahmad Samir:
On 29 September 2010 21:57, Michael Schererm...@zarb.org wrote:
On Thursday 30 Sep 2010 05:42:48 André Salaün wrote:
OpenOffice or LibreOffice for Mageia ?
we can have both packages :)
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On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:11 PM, andré and...@laposte.net wrote:
So far in simplified terms, for the education target, we have focus on
school boards in US/Canada and Australia/New Zealand; focus on regional
gov'ts in Germany.
Do you have a link to any Mandriva docs that detail how the package
Marc Paré a écrit :
Usually the more the extensions you have the
heavier/more-ram/more-startup-time firefox gets (and the last time I
used AdBlock Plus, about 10 months ago, it leaked memory...). Also
it's not useful all over, I think I can do without it if I have
noscript installed, (now
Wolfgang Bornath a écrit :
2010/10/3 Marc Parém...@marcpare.com:
Le 2010-10-03 05:10, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit :
Who said we do have an education problem?
I am not sure, I certainly did not say that there was a problem. You seem to
be comfortable enough with it, and I don't
2010/10/1 atilla ontas tarakbu...@gmail.com
I'm just wondering if we follow Mandriva's release cycle model. Every
6th months a release or one year and one release. I think we should
make one release in one year. By doing so devs and translators won't
be in rush in every 6 months. Also there
Hoyt Duff a écrit :
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:11 PM, andréand...@laposte.net wrote:
So far in simplified terms, for the education target, we have focus on
school boards in US/Canada and Australia/New Zealand; focus on regional
gov'ts in Germany.
Here I mean focus in terms of
My purposes for my computer is primarily for home office purposes with the
occasional gaming. I would say that would be the typical target audience.
Do you remember, years ago, how Mandriva had a kind of store where you could
buy software, a one click installation system. Would it be
2010/10/7 Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com
Le 2010-10-06 17:10, vfmBOFH a écrit :
2010/10/1 atilla ontas
tarakbu...@gmail.com
mailto:tarakbu...@gmail.com
I'm just wondering if we follow Mandriva's release cycle model. Every
6th months a release or one year and one release. I think we
Le 2010-10-06 17:27, andré a écrit :
Hoyt Duff a écrit :
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:11 PM,
andréand...@laposte.net wrote:
So far in simplified terms, for the education target, we have focus on
school boards in US/Canada and Australia/New Zealand; focus on regional
gov'ts in Germany.
Here I mean
Hi all.
At this time, there is a survey asking to the blogdrake's community
what kind of release cycle they prefer. This survey will be active
until the weekend and I think this could be an acceptable look about
community preferences.
We must
Le 2010-10-06 20:02, vfmBOFH a écrit :
2010/10/7 Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com
mailto:m...@marcpare.com
Le 2010-10-06 17:10, vfmBOFH a écrit :
2010/10/1 atilla ontas
tarakbu...@gmail.com
mailto:tarakbu...@gmail.com
mailto:tarakbu...@gmail.com
school/university labs... etc.
And even for personal use, not many would appreciate having to do an
unanticipated reinstall or restore from backup. Particularly those who
want to avoid upgrading their distro every 6 months. ;)
Rolling distro, anyone ?
- André (andre999)
Romain suggest an
Michael Scherer a écrit :
Le mardi 05 octobre 2010 à 20:17 +0200, Ahmad Samir a écrit :
On 5 October 2010 19:53, Tux 99tux99-...@uridium.org wrote:
On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, Ahmad Samir wrote:
I looked at the description that Michael gave. And I think I know what
a rolling
Ahmad Samir a écrit :
On 6 October 2010 05:02, Fernando Parragato2...@yahoo.com.mx wrote:
On Tue, 5 Oct 2010 15:47:20 +0200
Ahmad Samirahmadsamir3891-re5jqeeqqe8avxtiumw...@public.gmane.org wrote:
On 5 October 2010 15:28,
Tux99tux99-mga-ju+53dptyrfafugrpc6...@public.gmane.org
2010/10/7 Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com:
I guess this information would have to come from someone from the core dev
group. Just so that we know for sure. So, is Mageia going to be principally
a KDE distro with offers during installation to install GNOME and other
desktops? Or is it going to be
Tux99 a écrit :
On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
On 5 October 2010 15:28, Tux99tux99-...@uridium.org wrote:
This would reduce the space requirements on the mirrors and it would mean
that Mageia is a rolling distro for most apps, making it more attractive
compared to
Marc Paré a écrit :
school/university labs... etc.
And even for personal use, not many would appreciate having to do an
unanticipated reinstall or restore from backup. Particularly those who
want to avoid upgrading their distro every 6 months. ;)
Rolling distro, anyone ?
- André (andre999)
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 15:25:13 +0100
Buchan Milne bgmilne-tobu8pog+uhswrhanm7...@public.gmane.org wrote:
On Wednesday, 6 October 2010 03:39:04 Fernando Parra wrote:
On Tue, 05 Oct 2010 08:00:46 -0400
Sinner from the Prairy
Sorteal a écrit :
On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 04:01 +0200, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
2010/10/7 Marc Parém...@marcpare.com:
I guess this information would have to come from someone from the core dev
group. Just so that we know for sure. So, is Mageia going to be principally
a KDE distro with
On 7 October 2010 02:20, Kira elegant.pega...@gmail.com wrote:
在 Thu, 07 Oct 2010 07:59:52 +0800, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com寫道:
I am not sure anymore, but I thought I had read somewhere that Mageia
would be a KDE-centric distro à la Mandriva, but still offer Gnome etc. if
the user wished to
On 7 October 2010 02:24, andré and...@laposte.net wrote:
Ahmad Samir a écrit :
On 2 October 2010 14:50, Jérôme Martinmag...@delaur.net wrote:
Le vendredi 1 octobre 2010, Olivier Méjean a écrit :
Le vendredi 1 octobre 2010 08:51:34, atilla ontas a écrit :
What's your opinion?
What
On 7 October 2010 03:59, andré and...@laposte.net wrote:
Ahmad Samir a écrit :
On 6 October 2010 05:02, Fernando Parragato2...@yahoo.com.mx wrote:
On Tue, 5 Oct 2010 15:47:20 +0200
Ahmad Samirahmadsamir3891-re5jqeeqqe8avxtiumw...@public.gmane.org
wrote:
On 5 October 2010 15:28,
On 7 October 2010 07:19, Kira elegant.pega...@gmail.com wrote:
在 Thu, 07 Oct 2010 13:14:46 +0800, Ahmad Samir ahmadsamir3...@gmail.com寫道:
IMHO, even for kde4 Konqueror shouldn't be the default web browser, it
has a lot of quirks. Experienced users who want to use anything other
than the
2010/10/7 Kira elegant.pega...@gmail.com
在 Thu, 07 Oct 2010 13:14:46 +0800, Ahmad Samir ahmadsamir3...@gmail.com
寫道:
IMHO, even for kde4 Konqueror shouldn't be the default web browser, it
has a lot of quirks. Experienced users who want to use anything other
than the defaults do so all the
Could it be possible to use the same schema that Mandriva use + one
LTS with three years of support?
Regular releases every six months with 18 month support.
But we could include this kind of LTS with 36 month.
Difference with Ubuntu will be that our LTS will be launched only
after the previous
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