Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-07 Thread Mihai Dobrescu
I think that I read somewhere that Mandriva *started *as KDE centric. AFAIK, Gnome, KDE and some other popular DE are supported and Mandriva spent an important effort to make them look alike from the main menu and other customizations point of view. As file browsers I like Dolphin, Konqueror and I

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-07 Thread Dimitrios Glentadakis
2010/10/7 Kira elegant.pega...@gmail.com 在 Thu, 07 Oct 2010 13:29:25 +0800, Ahmad Samir ahmadsamir3...@gmail.com 寫道: No, konqueror is still useful as a file manager (some users don't like dolphin for some reason), also as a man pages viewer. Also it shares some code with dolphin (some

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-07 Thread Graham Lauder
On Thursday 07 Oct 2010 19:11:45 Mihai Dobrescu wrote: I think that I read somewhere that Mandriva *started *as KDE centric. AFAIK, Gnome, KDE and some other popular DE are supported and Mandriva spent an important effort to make them look alike from the main menu and other customizations

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-07 Thread Sorteal
On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 00:22 -0400, andré wrote: Sorteal a écrit : On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 04:01 +0200, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: 2010/10/7 Marc Parém...@marcpare.com: I guess this information would have to come from someone from the core dev group. Just so that we know for sure.

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-07 Thread Samuel Verschelde
Le jeudi 7 octobre 2010 11:20:04, Buchan Milne a écrit : The fact that almost no-one on this list seems to have known about backports at all doesn't mean that the backports feature is not useful, it may be that it wasn't accessible enough to end users. +1 Now, maybe the user interface

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-07 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-07 04:55, Romain d'Alverny a écrit : On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 07:34, Gustavo Giampaoli giampaoli.gust...@gmail.com wrote: Could it be possible to use the same schema that Mandriva use + one LTS with three years of support? Regular releases every six months with 18 month support. But

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-07 Thread Michael Scherer
Le jeudi 07 octobre 2010 à 02:34 -0300, Gustavo Giampaoli a écrit : Could it be possible to use the same schema that Mandriva use + one LTS with three years of support? Regular releases every six months with 18 month support. But we could include this kind of LTS with 36 month.

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-07 Thread Samuel Verschelde
Le jeudi 7 octobre 2010 12:10:11, Romain d'Alverny a écrit : On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 11:36, Samuel Verschelde sto...@laposte.net wrote: Le jeudi 7 octobre 2010 11:20:04, Buchan Milne a écrit : Maybe a rating/voting/popularity system should be available, however in the past people had

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-07 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-07 07:23, Olivier Méjean a écrit : Le jeudi 7 octobre 2010 13:00:21, Marc Paré a écrit : I would challenge people to find a regular user who knew what the Backport option was for, you may find some but clearly, they would be in the minority. Otherwise, it would have been used quite

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-07 Thread Oliver Burger
Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com schrieb am 2010-10-07 Thanks. That makes sense. Sorry, I was still thinking the Mandriva corporate way. So, we are pretty well left at the mercy of the devs interest with this regard. (I don't mean to sound negative, but more realist in saying this.) Do you know,

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-07 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 7 October 2010 13:10, Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org wrote: Le mercredi 06 octobre 2010 à 23:18 -0400, Sorteal a écrit : On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 04:01 +0200, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: 2010/10/7 Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com: I guess this information would have to come from someone from the

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-07 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 7 October 2010 13:50, Oliver Burger oliver@googlemail.com wrote: Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com schrieb am 2010-10-07 Thanks. That makes sense. Sorry, I was still thinking the Mandriva corporate way. So, we are pretty well left at the mercy of the devs interest with this regard. (I don't

Re: [Mageia-dev] News about the forum

2010-10-07 Thread Maât
Le 04/10/2010 00:14, Maât a écrit : Stay tuned, Hi, News about forums progress : We are currently starting to work on mageia ldap and forum connection. If properly working that will avoid contributors to have to create accounts everywhere (forums, build system, bugtracker...) A common web

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-07 Thread Marc Paré
To make it clearer, if the user wants to install oo-base at a later point with the currend Mdv model he would have to download 20MB if there has been no security updates since release, or 70MB if there has been a security update in the meantime. FYI, there is currently a discussion on the

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-07 Thread Gustavo Giampaoli
It has been posted before but I guess it's a good read for anyone willing to push an argument in this debate: http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/09/01/a-story-about-updates-and-people/ Really excellent article. I enjoyed reading it because it's based on people-from-real-life. Even when I'm not

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-07 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 7 October 2010 15:08, Gustavo Giampaoli giampaoli.gust...@gmail.com wrote: It has been posted before but I guess it's a good read for anyone willing to push an argument in this debate: http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/09/01/a-story-about-updates-and-people/ Really excellent article. I

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-07 Thread Tux99
On Thu, 7 Oct 2010, Sinner from the Prairy wrote: Besides absolute lack of knowledge about backports, I still have failed to read an answer how backports are not filling the needs for bleeding-edge users. It's the focus that changes, currently with Mandriva backports are a barely known

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-07 Thread Gustavo Giampaoli
IMHO that if we want that backports be more popular, we must stop promoting like for advanced users: http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Docs/Basic_tasks/Installing_and_removing_software#Advanced_use:_Backports_and_candidate_updates Quote: The testing and backports repositories for each section will be

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-07 Thread nicolas vigier
On Thu, 07 Oct 2010, Tux99 wrote: On Thu, 7 Oct 2010, Sinner from the Prairy wrote: Besides absolute lack of knowledge about backports, I still have failed to read an answer how backports are not filling the needs for bleeding-edge users. It's the focus that changes, currently with

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-07 Thread Michael Scherer
Le jeudi 07 octobre 2010 à 10:22 -0400, Greg Harris a écrit : You hit the point precisely. Mandriva's backports was a terrific idea that does not succeed because (1) it is disabled by default and the means to enable it as an update medium are made obscure by intention and design and (2)

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-07 Thread Michael Scherer
Le jeudi 07 octobre 2010 à 11:14 -0400, Greg Harris a écrit : I certainly agree, and mean no disrespect to you and other maintainers who generously contribute their time and energy. But the Mandriva implementation of backports is not a solution for those who want a continuously updated

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-07 Thread Renaud MICHEL
On jeudi 07 octobre 2010 at 09:15, Dimitrios Glentadakis wrote : For me, Konqueror is the main application in my system. file manager and browser. May be for others too Yep, konqueror is my filemanager, web browser, (s)ftp client and quick previewer (with kparts integration). It is just great