Re: [Mageia-dev] About panotools patent problem (and other problematic rpms)

2011-02-26 Thread Anssi Hannula
On 26.02.2011 07:35, andre999 wrote: Maarten Vanraes a écrit : Op donderdag 24 februari 2011 16:08:51 schreef Anne nicolas: 2011/2/24 Thierry Vignaudthierry.vign...@gmail.com: On 24 February 2011 07:13, andre999and...@laposte.net wrote: And if you discussed the issue and your POV wasn't

Re: [Mageia-dev] About panotools patent problem (and other problematic rpms)

2011-02-26 Thread andre999
Anssi Hannula a écrit : On 26.02.2011 07:35, andre999 wrote: ... actually, any of those suggestions would be an improvement ;) I did suggest contrained. Ubuntu uses restricted and/or multiverse (which include mostly non-free packages), and there were a lot of other suggestions. There was only

Re: [Mageia-dev] About panotools patent problem (and other problematic rpms)

2011-02-26 Thread Anssi Hannula
On 26.02.2011 22:20, andre999 wrote: Anssi Hannula a écrit : On 26.02.2011 07:35, andre999 wrote: ... actually, any of those suggestions would be an improvement ;) I did suggest contrained. Ubuntu uses restricted and/or multiverse (which include mostly non-free packages), and there were a

Re: [Mageia-dev] About panotools patent problem (and other problematic rpms)

2011-02-25 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op donderdag 24 februari 2011 16:08:51 schreef Anne nicolas: 2011/2/24 Thierry Vignaud thierry.vign...@gmail.com: On 24 February 2011 07:13, andre999 and...@laposte.net wrote: And if you discussed the issue and your POV wasn't adapted, what's the point re-emerging it now given that changing

Re: [Mageia-dev] About panotools patent problem (and other problematic rpms)

2011-02-25 Thread andre999
Maarten Vanraes a écrit : Op donderdag 24 februari 2011 16:08:51 schreef Anne nicolas: 2011/2/24 Thierry Vignaudthierry.vign...@gmail.com: On 24 February 2011 07:13, andre999and...@laposte.net wrote: And if you discussed the issue and your POV wasn't adapted, what's the point re-emerging it

Re: [Mageia-dev] About panotools patent problem (and other problematic rpms)

2011-02-24 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 24 February 2011 07:13, andre999 and...@laposte.net wrote: And if you discussed the issue and your POV wasn't adapted, what's the point re-emerging it now given that changing the new isn't easy now that the infra- is already in place. In 4+ months, a lot will be changed/corrected. In my

Re: [Mageia-dev] About panotools patent problem (and other problematic rpms)

2011-02-24 Thread Anne nicolas
2011/2/24 Thierry Vignaud thierry.vign...@gmail.com: On 24 February 2011 07:13, andre999 and...@laposte.net wrote: And if you discussed the issue and your POV wasn't adapted, what's the point re-emerging it now given that changing the new isn't easy now that the infra- is already in place.

Re: [Mageia-dev] About panotools patent problem (and other problematic rpms)

2011-02-23 Thread Tux99
Quote: Thomas Backlund wrote on Sun, 20 February 2011 19:48 It is an abuse yes, but the great thing about it is we _know_ it works... so no surprises... (if it aint broken...) Agreed, the automatic preference of urpmi for plf when plf

Re: [Mageia-dev] About panotools patent problem (and other problematic rpms)

2011-02-22 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 10:57, Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org wrote: Le vendredi 18 février 2011 à 10:13 +0100, Philippe DIDIER a écrit : Just seen that mikala added panotools in the repository . (some algorythms library to build panoramic photographs) Very happy with this ! (thanks a lot...)

Re: [Mageia-dev] About panotools patent problem (and other problematic rpms)

2011-02-22 Thread Philippe DIDIER
Quote: rdalverny wrote on Tue, 22 February 2011 11:04 Long time ago, How long is a long time ago? because every patent has a term and here it may have expired. Long time ago means 1999.. Actually the problem has not expired : Bruno

Re: [Mageia-dev] About panotools patent problem (and other problematic rpms)

2011-02-22 Thread andre999
Maarten Vanraes a écrit : Op vrijdag 18 februari 2011 14:42:02 schreef Michael Scherer: Le vendredi 18 février 2011 à 12:47 +, James Kerr a écrit : If there are two packages, one in core and another in tainted, then doesn't urpmi need a way to recognise that the tainted package is newer

Re: [Mageia-dev] About panotools patent problem (and other problematic rpms)

2011-02-22 Thread Buchan Milne
On Tuesday, 22 February 2011 20:09:17 andre999 wrote: Maarten Vanraes a écrit : Op vrijdag 18 februari 2011 14:42:02 schreef Michael Scherer: Le vendredi 18 février 2011 à 12:47 +, James Kerr a écrit : If there are two packages, one in core and another in tainted, then doesn't urpmi

Re: [Mageia-dev] About panotools patent problem (and other problematic rpms)

2011-02-22 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 22 February 2011 20:09, andre999 and...@laposte.net wrote: aside First of all, tainted in English implies that the software doesn't work.  (Unless it refers to food, in which case it means poisonous.) So we should choose a more appropriate name, such as constrained, or use the Ubuntu

Re: [Mageia-dev] About panotools patent problem (and other problematic rpms)

2011-02-22 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op dinsdag 22 februari 2011 19:09:17 schreef andre999: [...] aside First of all, tainted in English implies that the software doesn't work. (Unless it refers to food, in which case it means poisonous.) So we should choose a more appropriate name, such as constrained, or use the Ubuntu

Re: [Mageia-dev] About panotools patent problem (and other problematic rpms)

2011-02-20 Thread Thomas Backlund
Michael Scherer skrev 18.2.2011 15:42: Le vendredi 18 février 2011 à 12:47 +, James Kerr a écrit : If there are two packages, one in core and another in tainted, then doesn't urpmi need a way to recognise that the tainted package is newer than (an update to) the corresponding core package?

Re: [Mageia-dev] About panotools patent problem (and other problematic rpms)

2011-02-20 Thread Philippe DIDIER
Well, the old simple logic works... lets say we abuse the release tag, for example changing mga to mgt then if the user enables tainted (meaning he/she wants the rpms) urpmi will automatically get the mgt ones, no questions asked... simple, and effective. and since the rebuild should be

Re: [Mageia-dev] About panotools patent problem (and other problematic rpms)

2011-02-19 Thread Michael Scherer
On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 09:20:50 +0100, Maarten Vanraes wrote: Op vrijdag 18 februari 2011 14:42:02 schreef Michael Scherer: Le vendredi 18 février 2011 à 12:47 +, James Kerr a écrit : If there are two packages, one in core and another in tainted, then doesn't urpmi need a way to recognise

Re: [Mageia-dev] About panotools patent problem (and other problematic rpms)

2011-02-19 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op zaterdag 19 februari 2011 14:59:46 schreef Michael Scherer: On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 09:20:50 +0100, Maarten Vanraes wrote: Op vrijdag 18 februari 2011 14:42:02 schreef Michael Scherer: Le vendredi 18 février 2011 à 12:47 +, James Kerr a écrit : If there are two packages, one in core

Re: [Mageia-dev] About panotools patent problem (and other problematic rpms)

2011-02-19 Thread André Machado
This sound like w32codecs issues. I suggest create a nonfree repository or don't install it if user choose a non-European country during install.

Re: [Mageia-dev] About panotools patent problem (and other problematic rpms)

2011-02-19 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
2011/2/18 Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org: Le vendredi 18 février 2011 à 12:47 +, James Kerr a écrit : If there are two packages, one in core and another in tainted, then doesn't urpmi need a way to recognise that the tainted package is newer than (an update to) the corresponding core

Re: [Mageia-dev] About panotools patent problem (and other problematic rpms)

2011-02-18 Thread Michael Scherer
Le vendredi 18 février 2011 à 10:13 +0100, Philippe DIDIER a écrit : Hi everybody ! Just seen that mikala added panotools in the repository . (some algorythms library to build panoramic photographs) Very happy with this ! (thanks a lot...) That's one of the first patent problems we may

Re: [Mageia-dev] About panotools patent problem (and other problematic rpms)

2011-02-18 Thread Oliver Burger
Philippe DIDIER philippedid...@laposte.net schrieb am 2011-02-18 But this doesn't solve the more global problem of rpms with patent problems (how to have them clearly built and identified : need different suffixes ?) Wasn't this the reason for creating the tainted repository? Since we don't

Re: [Mageia-dev] About panotools patent problem (and other problematic rpms)

2011-02-18 Thread Oliver Burger
Philippe DIDIER philippedid...@laposte.net schrieb am 2011-02-18 And what I talked about (in the other thread with the same name) was about the easiness to build and use different rpms with the same spec having mdv versus plf suffixes... And about it seems that we need to have different naming

Re: [Mageia-dev] About panotools patent problem (and other problematic rpms)

2011-02-18 Thread Michael Scherer
Le vendredi 18 février 2011 à 12:43 +0100, Oliver Burger a écrit : Philippe DIDIER philippedid...@laposte.net schrieb am 2011-02-18 And what I talked about (in the other thread with the same name) was about the easiness to build and use different rpms with the same spec having mdv versus

Re: [Mageia-dev] About panotools patent problem (and other problematic rpms)

2011-02-18 Thread Balcaen John
Le vendredi 18 février 2011 06:13:07, Philippe DIDIER a écrit : Hi everybody ! Just seen that mikala added panotools in the repository . (some algorythms library to build panoramic photographs) Very happy with this ! (thanks a lot...) That's one of the first patent problems we may encounter

Re: [Mageia-dev] About panotools patent problem (and other problematic rpms)

2011-02-18 Thread James Kerr
On 18/02/11 12:07, Michael Scherer wrote: Le vendredi 18 février 2011 à 12:43 +0100, Oliver Burger a écrit : Philippe DIDIERphilippedid...@laposte.net schrieb am 2011-02-18 And what I talked about (in the other thread with the same name) was about the easiness to build and use different rpms