[Mailman-Developers] Re: GSoC 2021 ideas

2021-01-09 Thread Terri Oda
On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 6:28 PM Abhilash Raj wrote: > On Mon, Jan 4, 2021, at 12:49 PM, Terri Oda wrote: > > 1. Seamless archive converter for 2.1 -> 3.* > > This sounds like a very nice idea! How are you thinking of associating > the web URLs (basically, number of the pa

[Mailman-Developers] Re: GSoC 2021 org applications

2021-01-08 Thread Terri Oda
On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 8:13 PM Stephen J. Turnbull < turnbull.stephen...@u.tsukuba.ac.jp> wrote: > Terri, in the past you've allowed rejected orgs to apply as Python > suborgs. Did that work out ok? Do you expect to have that policy > again this year? Yes, that's the policy again this year! I

[Mailman-Developers] Re: GSoC 2021 ideas

2021-01-05 Thread Terri Oda
On Tue., Jan. 5, 2021, 1:10 p.m. Sam Kuper, wrote: > Thanks for reading this far. And if I was mistaken (or out of date) > about Postorius requiring JavaScript, I would be very happy to stand > corrected. > Having the postorious interface work without JavaScript was one of our original design

[Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2021 ideas

2021-01-04 Thread Terri Oda
Happy new year everyone! I'm starting to prep Python for GSoC 2021, and I wanted to issue the usual invitation that we'd be happy to have Mailman as a sub-org if anyone wants to do GSoC this year.  (Mailman's been fine as a separate org, but I have to do the paperwork for Python anyhow so I

[Mailman-Developers] Re: GSoC deadlines approaching fast!

2019-02-27 Thread Terri Oda
Sent you an invite to the system, so you should be able to log in now! Do any of the other core devs want one to help evaluate proposals? Barry? Florian? Aurelian? ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list -- mailman-developers@python.org To unsubscribe send

[Mailman-Developers] Re: GSoC deadlines approaching fast!

2019-01-31 Thread Terri Oda
On January 31, 2019 11:43:52 a.m. PST, "Stephen J. Turnbull" wrote: >Hey all > >We need to decide if we're going to go under the PSF umbrella or if we >want to go standalone. I recommend trying standalone and using the psf as a backup, as usual, but we're happy to have you either way. If

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Migrating Postorius and Hyperkitty to Python 3

2017-10-08 Thread Terri Oda
What's the state for Centos? I think it was the last likely distro we cared about with old python needs, but I'm not sure core supports it at all any more. On October 1, 2017 2:12:46 PM PDT, Abhilash Raj wrote: >Hi All, > >Mailman uses Django web framework for the web

[Mailman-Developers] Postorius and MRs for 3.1

2017-05-23 Thread Terri Oda
Hi Florian, Your turn for the "last chance to tag things for 3.1" email now that Aurelien's weighed in. ;) (I'm cc'ing the rest of mailman-developers in case anyone else wants to advocate for a bug too...) I *think* we've got 3.1 tagged appropriately, which means that the unicode bug is

[Mailman-Developers] Encrypted lists are still a valid GSoC project, in case you were wondering.

2017-03-27 Thread Terri Oda
On 2017-03-22 6:27 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: I should state for the record that my personal interest in this feature isn't so much encrypted mailing lists per se, but the architectural and design pressure it will put on Mailman 3, and our responses to that. Encrypted lists are the kinds of things

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC Help Wanted

2017-03-27 Thread Terri Oda
On 2017-03-24 2:55 AM, Muhammad Rizvi wrote: I want to let you that I want to take part in Python Organization but don’t exactly know what to do. The thing that I came to know so far is that, first I have to find a mentor but don’t know from where I can contact a mentor, secondly I have to

Re: [Mailman-Developers] What characters should be allowed in listnames

2017-02-14 Thread Terri Oda
On February 15, 2017 8:03:33 AM GMT+05:30, Mark Sapiro wrote: >On 02/14/2017 10:52 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >> Mark Sapiro writes: >> >> > I'd like feedback on this. What are your thoughts on what >characters >> > should be allowed in list names? >> >> Uh, RFC 6532

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 3 Dockerfile

2017-01-26 Thread Terri Oda
Well, my name is all over it so I'm not sure it's true that there's no more obvious contact person than this list... But this list is the correct place, yes. :) I think we have a few better dockerfiles out in the community now, so maybe folk who've set them up would like to chime in? Terri

Re: [Mailman-Developers] [MM3-users] Re: Mailman 3.1 beta coming soon

2016-12-12 Thread Terri Oda
On 2016-12-12 12:29 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Barry Warsaw writes: > >I can also work on Postorius. Also in this vein I have a question. > >Should the DMARC settings be added to the Alter Messages tab in the List > >Settings view or would it be better to have a separate DMARC

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 3.1 beta coming soon

2016-12-12 Thread Terri Oda
On 2016-12-08 9:45 AM, Florian Fuchs wrote: you have a traceback somewhere? If you're logging in for the first time, it *might* have to do with allauth trying to verify your email address by sending you an confirmation email (which probably fails if you don't have smtp set up on your mac). If

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 3.1 beta coming soon

2016-12-03 Thread Terri Oda
On 2016-12-03 12:22 PM, Florian Fuchs wrote: I did some manual integration testing today (core+mailmanclient+postorius) which looked fine so far. I didn't get to test HyperKitty and the bundler though, so any help testing those would be very much appreciated. I will have some more time tomorrow.

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Request to process merge requests faster

2016-09-21 Thread Terri Oda
Sorry it's been such a demotivating experience for you. I can't speak for anyone else, but I had some big life events this summer, both expected and unexpected, happy and very sad, and have been too tapped out to handle merge requests at anything resembling a reasonable speed. Florian and I

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Postorius issue tracker labels

2016-06-04 Thread Terri Oda
On 2016-06-04 3:23 PM, Simon Hanna wrote: I'm not sure "rest" is the way it's currently being used either: it might be more useful to rename it to be like the wait-for-mailman tag to indicate bugs that occur due to mailmanclient. 'wait-for-mailman' is just a little weird given that we

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Postorius issue tracker labels

2016-06-04 Thread Terri Oda
On 2016-06-04 1:11 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Hi, all I just went through the labels in the Postorius issue tracker https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/labels and documented the undocumented as well as changing a couple of labels. Comments very welcome. There are two labels whose

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Postorius and verified email addresses

2016-04-10 Thread Terri Oda
On 2016-04-06 4:29 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: On Apr 07, 2016, at 12:26 AM, Simon Hanna wrote: Short version: it supports both external (social) and internal (django) auth systems and offers options to combine/switch between them . Allauth provides Signals that I used to verify the addresses in

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Gitlab integration, GSOC'16

2016-02-29 Thread Terri Oda
On 2016-02-28 1:34 PM, aahan bhatt wrote: Please explain about the gitlab integration in layman terms. I would like to contribute to the project. Gitlab integration can mean a lot of things, and we've left this particular project pretty open to see what people will suggest. The tweet linked

[Mailman-Developers] Fwd: [Python-Dev] [ANNOUNCE] fuzzpy

2016-02-29 Thread Terri Oda
I know I was talking to someone a while ago about maybe doing some fuzz testing on Mailman. If anyone's interested, this might be a tool worth trying out: Forwarded Message Subject:[Python-Dev] [ANNOUNCE] fuzzpy Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2016 21:44:39 -0600 From: Brian

Re: [Mailman-Developers] an impossible need to address ?

2016-01-21 Thread Terri Oda
On 2016-01-21 1:47 AM, JFC Morfin wrote: Hi! I am a new comer on this list. I am an old cyberactivist and an administrator of more than 100 mailman lists and I would need to operate much more for a budled project trough a user/feature database. It means a way (1) to set-up scores of same style

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Getting Started

2016-01-11 Thread Terri Oda
On 2016-01-10 7:10 PM, Abhilash Raj wrote: After you think you know enough about Mailman, you can then try to fix some small easy bugs in Mailman core or any of its sister projects (Postorius - the Web UI, Hyperkitty - the Archiver, Client - Python bindings). There might be less number or bugs

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2016 wiki page now up!

2016-01-05 Thread Terri Oda
be incomplete, right? On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Terri Oda <te...@toybox.ca> wrote: I set up an initial page for GSoC 2016 with Mailman: http://wiki.list.org/DEV/Google_Summer_of_Code_2016 Students: Please take a look at the page and let us know if it has the information you're looking for, othe

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Website re-org?

2015-12-26 Thread Terri Oda
On 2015-12-26 9:32 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: Although, I do like the "quick links" nature of the Documentation menu. One less click once you know where you want to go. Maybe the docs.mailman3.org page can be linked from an "Overview" menu item? I use those quick links enough that I'd like to

Re: [Mailman-Developers] /opt vs traditional install [was: Mailman 3 production setup testbed]

2015-12-21 Thread Terri Oda
On 2015-12-12 3:32 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: Right. There should be no hard-coded references; everything should be configurable via the mailman.cfg file. Yeah, no problems here. In fact, the *production* setup includes things to divide out the directories appropriately, the problem was mostly

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Upgrading from Mailman 3.0 installed with mailman-bundler: sassc error

2015-12-10 Thread Terri Oda
On 2015-12-05 3:48 PM, Terri Oda wrote: 2. update mailman_web/development.py so that COMPRESS_PRECOMPILERS asks for sass instead of sassc Follow-up on this. I tried this on a fresh mailman-bundler install and you do indeed see the same problem. I changed the config in development.py

[Mailman-Developers] A list where no subscriber can post: can anyone spot the bad config?

2015-12-09 Thread Terri Oda
I've got a list where, for some reason, I can post, but no one else seems to be able to. It *looks* like I can post because I was somehow in accept_these_nonmembers. It's a list converted from Mailman 2.1, so I'm suspicious that it's some sort of cruft in the config. I'm pasting in a

Re: [Mailman-Developers] MM3 trying to buildout / errors

2015-12-09 Thread Terri Oda
I don't know what's causing this, but I can confirm that it also happens in Fedora 21 with a just-cloned version of bundler. On 2015-12-07 2:06 PM, fsanti...@garbage-juice.com wrote: Why on centos 7 do i receive the following when attempting to build MM3 using the mailman-bundler package:

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Website re-org?

2015-12-09 Thread Terri Oda
On 2015-12-05 5:44 PM, Adam McGreggor wrote: Since we get a lot of GSoC student aspirants and folk who meet one of us and think "these seem like nice people, maybe I'll make my first open source contribution with them," I think there's good reason to have something a bit more extensive than the

[Mailman-Developers] Upgrading from Mailman 3.0 installed with mailman-bundler: sassc error

2015-12-05 Thread Terri Oda
Hit an issue while upgrading mailman bundler that I'm just going to note here in case it affects anyone else. After upgrading, I go to the web interface and try to log in only to get the following error: “/bin/sh: sassc: command not found” Which as a security person is the type of error

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 3 production setup testbed

2015-12-05 Thread Terri Oda
On 2015-11-24 7:32 AM, Andrew Hodgson wrote: My confusion relates to the virtual environment that I create. I am running from the dedicated MM3 user I created, and I am looking to expand the bundler from the user’s home directory in /home (for example). When I create the virtual environment,

[Mailman-Developers] Website re-org?

2015-12-05 Thread Terri Oda
Abhilash did a lovely job on the new website, but while the layout has changed, a lot of the content hasn't. And I'm not sure what we've got lines up very with what people want out of our website, so I'm thinking about re-organizing. Right now, I suspect that when people visit list.org,

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Interest in contributing to opensource (mailman)

2015-08-22 Thread Terri Oda
On 2015-08-04 7:15 PM, Amate Yolande wrote: Hello My name is Amate Yolande, a second year Computer Science student from the University of Buea Cameroon. I am new to open source and interested in contributing to mailman. I am primarily a Python programmer with basic knowledge of Javascript and

[Mailman-Developers] Improving the mailman-bundler flow for production environments

2015-08-20 Thread Terri Oda
Hi all, I've been made aware several times that the mailman-bundler docs don't work super well for folk who are focused on getting a production rather than a development server up and running. Now, I know we're hoping that there will be distro packages and an easier path for this eventually

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Why is postorius using python2?

2015-08-03 Thread Terri Oda
I thought we still had one upstream dependency that stops us from entirely switching (Florian was keeping better track than I so hopefully he'll chime in), but we'd love to be completely ready to switch when we can even if there's a blocker still, so please feel free to file bugs and make

Re: [Mailman-Developers] [GSOC'15] Mid term blog report

2015-07-07 Thread Terri Oda
On 2015-07-02 11:17 AM, Ankush Sharma wrote: Hello everyone, I have put up a blog post regarding my GSoC project *Mailman Client in JS. *Interested people can follow this link : http://black-perl.me/black-perl-gsoc-with-mailman-mid-term-report Expecting feedback from your side ! You mention

Re: [Mailman-Developers] html question

2015-06-09 Thread Terri Oda
On 2015-06-08 7:52 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: On Jun 08, 2015, at 02:13 PM, Abhilash Raj wrote: Postorius just queries the core via REST API the for the message and dumps the message code in the View. Probably we need to identify if the message contains a text/html part and then render that

Re: [Mailman-Developers] mailman 3.0 roadmap, feature-parity with mailman 2.x and documentation

2015-05-04 Thread Terri Oda
Is there a recommended server environment to run Mailman 3? It should install and run on any *nix server that supports both Python 2.7 and Python 3.0, an MTA capable of LMTP delivery to Mailman (currently configurations for Postfix and Exim are provided) and a web server compatible with Django.

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman3 Suite in Docker! (Also: probably decent recipe for ubuntu 14.04)

2015-04-16 Thread Terri Oda
. Can we add this file to some github repo to be able to send PR's, etc conveniently? Thanks, - Pranjal On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Terri Oda te...@toybox.ca wrote: Hey all, I've got a Dockerfile up here for those of you who might want to try dumping Mailman3 suite into a container

[Mailman-Developers] Mailman3 Suite in Docker! (Also: probably decent recipe for ubuntu 14.04)

2015-04-15 Thread Terri Oda
Hey all, I've got a Dockerfile up here for those of you who might want to try dumping Mailman3 suite into a container and watching it go: http://wiki.list.org/DEV/Mailman%203.0/Mailman%203.0%20Suite%20Dockerfile This gets everything running with some default configs, and I can tell that it

[Mailman-Developers] Outstanding postorius merge requests (was Re: [ Query ] Some bugs in postorius that needs to be addressed)

2015-04-14 Thread Terri Oda
On 2015-04-13 3:49 PM, Ankush Sharma wrote: The above bugs have been discussed in detail with Bhavesh Goyal with involvement of Terri. I think fixing https://code.launchpad.net/~bhavesh-goyal093/postorius/fixed-nav-role-identification would work ! This has been merged, thanks all!

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Getting approval to go ahead

2015-03-23 Thread Terri Oda
On 2015-03-23 8:38 PM, Andrew Stuart wrote: I haven’t really worked on an open source project before. It wouldn’t make sense to come up with an idea, write some code, submit it and have it rejected because it’s not OK with the project owners and doesn’t fit with project goals. So at what

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Getting approval to go ahead

2015-03-23 Thread Terri Oda
On 2015-03-23 10:38 PM, Andrew Stuart wrote: The question is, who do I ask for confirmation that the idea is solid and will be merged assuming all requirements are met for code quality/testing/documentation? For core stuff you particularly want Barry's blessing, for Hyperkitty it's Aurelian,

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 15 - Interested in contributing to Hyperkitty

2015-03-23 Thread Terri Oda
On 2015-03-22 10:23 PM, David Udelson wrote: I'm interested in contributing to the Hyperkitty archiver. Specifically, it looks like some requested features for Hyperkitty include rss syndication for entire mailing lists/specific users/specific threads, and the ability to view entire threads as

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Group Photo from PyCon Mailman sprint last year

2015-03-09 Thread Terri Oda
. ;) (He did also help with some testing of the integration scripts, to be fair, and has repeatedly threatened to switch LKML to using Mailman 3 if we don't release soon.) Mark Sapiro - MM 2.1 (Really wants MM3 core, but somebody has to do it) Florian Fuchs - Postorius Terri Oda - Postorius

[Mailman-Developers] Group Photo from PyCon Mailman sprint last year

2015-03-04 Thread Terri Oda
Thought you all might want this for your wall. ;) https://www.flickr.com/photos/kushaldas/13953404515/in/set-72157644185026745 And since we're about a month out and it's probably not too late to make travel arrangements, I'd like to remind you all that we're planning to sprint again this year

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman Newbie

2015-03-04 Thread Terri Oda
On 2015-03-03 11:25 PM, Prudhvee Narasimha Sadha wrote: Hi, I'm prudhvee, I'm interested in contributing to GNU Mailman and GSoC, I have good skills in programming, but new to python. Currently, I'm learning Python language.I had gone through the bugs page to choose a newbie bug, nut I'm

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Org admins

2015-03-04 Thread Terri Oda
On 2015-03-02 8:10 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Is there an issue with org admin overlap between python-org (I assume *they* got in!) and mailman-org? (I guess I should mention systers-org, although Terri swore not :-) Python is in too. Hurrah! There's no problem in being an org

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2015: brainstorming ideas suitable for beginners?

2015-02-27 Thread Terri Oda
On 2015-02-27 1:06 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Ankush Sharma B.Tech. Electronics Engg, IIT(BHU), Varanasi (U.P.), INDIA writes: I was wondering if there is a sort of tool that generates summaries for mailing list activity and charts like number of users, number of active users,

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2015: brainstorming ideas suitable for beginners?

2015-02-27 Thread Terri Oda
Honestly, I don't love this idea. I would be technically feasible with VERP, but it edges into features that are very popular for people sending spam. On 2015-02-26 11:32 PM, Ankush Sharma B.Tech. Electronics Engg, IIT(BHU), Varanasi (U.P.), INDIA wrote: How about having personalized

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2015: brainstorming ideas suitable for beginners?

2015-02-27 Thread Terri Oda
PM, Ankush Sharma B.Tech. Electronics Engg, IIT(BHU), Varanasi (U.P.), INDIA wrote: On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Terri Oda te...@toybox.ca mailto:te...@toybox.ca wrote: Honestly, I don't love this idea. I would be technically feasible with VERP, I don't know about VERP. I

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2015: brainstorming ideas suitable for beginners?

2015-02-19 Thread Terri Oda
Thanks all! I've put up stuff for the ideas I could describe well enough off the top of my head. Also, mentors, I've listed a few likely key people beside each project idea, but some of them are just a generic anyone can help with this -- if any of these particularly interests you, please

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Who is the site administrator?

2015-01-24 Thread Terri Oda
On 2015-01-24, 5:08 AM, Andrew Stuart wrote: you can look back in the archives to the huge discussion we had about unifying the user data store.. Is there search to find that discussion or do I have to manually review all the threads? Any idea what year it was in? The data store

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Who is the site administrator?

2015-01-23 Thread Terri Oda
On 2015-01-23, 7:12 PM, Andrew Stuart wrote: Is this defined in any way? Is there any concept that a given Mailman user has “site admin rights”? Or is the concept of the “site administrator” not realised in the application and just considered to be someone with operating system level access

Re: [Mailman-Developers] MM 3: Virtual Environment Required?

2015-01-19 Thread Terri Oda
On 2015-01-13, 1:35 PM, Tom Browder wrote: I want to install, and use, MM 3. I'm on a single-user, Debian 7 server, and control the whole thing. Is it important to use a virtual environment? I'm sure I will be updating from the development branch until the stable release, and I am prepared to

[Mailman-Developers] Want Mailman 3 suite to release faster? Here's some bugs you can help with!

2014-11-12 Thread Terri Oda
Some weeks back, Florian went through the Postorius bug queue to find a list of bugs that he thinks are blocking us from being able to have a final Mailman Suite release. I just wanted to advertise that list to you all in case anyone here is looking for some valuable work to do:

[Mailman-Developers] PyCon Sprints have started!

2014-04-14 Thread Terri Oda
Just a quick reminder: we're sprinting at PyCon right now through Thursday, so if you've been hoping to get in touch with one of the Mailman core devs, now's a great time to find us! We'll be sprinting approximately 9-5ish Montréal time (Eastern Daylight Time) the next few days. If you're

[Mailman-Developers] Using git for mailman development during GSoC is NOT RECOMMENDED

2014-03-15 Thread Terri Oda
I just added the following note to the wiki and I want to repeat it here: While it is possible to use a git mirror or other tools to use git for Mailman core and Postorius development, we DO NOT RECOMMEND USING GIT for GSoC. Merge requests need to happen on launchpad (that is the one way new

[Mailman-Developers] Virtual Mailman hackathon this weekend: Mailman Suite package!

2014-03-13 Thread Terri Oda
Hi all! Something we've done periodically is try to get everyone on IRC over the weekend, all working on Mailman at the same time. It's great time for people to show and get patches reviewed, chat, and get work done together. Everyone is invited! This weekend's hackathon, my plan is to

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Getting mentor attention [was: Mailman SNMP support]

2014-03-11 Thread Terri Oda
On 2014-03-10, 8:55 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: First off, I saw you talked to Terri on IRC. Much as I hate to burden Terri, that is the right thing to do if you're not getting attention to your proposal, especially from persons who proposed or volunteered to mentor it. If at all possible,

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GNU Mailman sprinting at Pycon 2014

2014-03-01 Thread Terri Oda
On 2014-02-24, 2:59 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: Once again, the GNU Mailman project will be sprinting at Pycon, this time the 2014 conference in Montreal. I've created a placeholder page for adding ideas about what you would like to work on, as well as our priorities. We'll be filling out details

Re: [Mailman-Developers] [GSoC 2014] Cordova/Android App for GNU Mailman Admin Interface

2014-03-01 Thread Terri Oda
On 2014-02-28, 7:36 AM, Bhargav Golla wrote: I have a few questions regarding this idea. 1. I intend to develop it on Cordova since it will help in porting the app easily to multiple platforms. Were there any ideas in this directions regarding going native or hybrid? Personally, I'd prefer if

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2014

2014-02-24 Thread Terri Oda
On 2/24/2014, 3:18 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: @Florian, Terri: is there going to be a why some orgs get in and some don't session again this year? (Sorry, I've had no time at all to follow the process this year. :-( ) Yes, it's on Friday 28 February at 16:00 UTC. As usual, it's an IRC

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2014

2014-02-03 Thread Terri Oda
Mailman is intending to participate! (At least, Florian told me he'd write our application this year... ;) The project list under 2013 is *not* good for 2014 -- some of those projects have been finished and/or there may be no developer interest in some of them this year. However, others may

[Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2014 ideas list

2014-01-08 Thread Terri Oda
I've had prospective Google Summer of Code students emailing me since, uh, September or so... so I guess it's time to talk ideas! I've set up a wiki page, as usual: http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/Google+Summer+of+Code+2014 But let's start with here: what small projects would you like to see

[Mailman-Developers] Mailman Suite Beta task list take 2

2013-11-19 Thread Terri Oda
Trying to keep track of what's still on the table: 1. Multiple email address association with a single account. We're going to implement the verification emails from postorius for now, I guess. Florian, you seemed to know how to do this; do you mind getting it done? 2. Authentication

Re: [Mailman-Developers] [GRAYMAIL] Re: Mailman Suite beta: what's left?

2013-10-30 Thread Terri Oda
On 13-10-29 10:12 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Patrick Ben Koetter writes: Maybe documentation that tells interested people how they can start using the beta? I'm not sure what you mean. None of the GSoC students had trouble with getting Mailman 3 itself up and running once they got

Re: [Mailman-Developers] [GRAYMAIL] Mailman Suite beta: what's left?

2013-10-30 Thread Terri Oda
On 13-10-29 10:07 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: 1. Need a Postorius interface for associating multiple email addresses with a single account. This is probably going to require either an email verification, so we might want to have that as part Mailman Core rather than doing it

[Mailman-Developers] Mailman Suite beta: what's left?

2013-10-29 Thread Terri Oda
Stephen, Florian and I had a nice discussion at the GSoC Mentor Summit about what's left before we can release a beta of the entire Mailman Suite (i.e. Mailman core, Postorius and Hyperkitty packaged together). We're getting close! In fact, close enough that I'm going to suggest that we set

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC Updates

2013-08-14 Thread Terri Oda
On 13-08-14 2:35 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Footnotes: [1] Has anybody else noticed that both gpg's UI and its documentation seem designed to make it as hard to use as possible? Not only have people noticed, but Why Johnny Can't Encrypt: A Usability Evaluation of PGP 5.0 is often required

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Wiki Migration Update

2013-08-07 Thread Terri Oda
On 07/26/2013 06:23 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: I'm only one data point, but pretty much the only thing I use the dashboard for is seeing the recently updated pages, both to see what's going on and check for spam. I'm perfectly happy with Moin's RecentChanges page for this. I guess I can be data

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 3.0 todo list

2013-07-15 Thread Terri Oda
On 13-07-15 8:28 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: There are no deployments I know of, although Barry may. (I'm leaving out people who are playing with betas; by deployment I mean supporting real work.) The GSoC mentors and students are discussing setting one up that we can experiment either.

[Mailman-Developers] Mailman 3.0 todo list

2013-07-14 Thread Terri Oda
I've started a new things left to do before Mailman 3 releases list over at http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/Mailman+3.0 Mostly this is so the next time someone asks me So, when are you releasing? I can at least say We don't have a date yet, but here's the remaining todo list but also because I

[Mailman-Developers] Online Mailman Hackathon: July 14 0500-2300UTC

2013-07-11 Thread Terri Oda
Hey all, We're going to do a virtual hackathon day for Mailman suite (Mailman/Postorius/Hyperkitty) on Saturday and you're all invited.I especially suggest that the GSoC students for both Mailman and Systers take advantage of this day and show up to ask questions and get some time with

[Mailman-Developers] Systers+Mailman GSoC introductions

2013-06-03 Thread Terri Oda
Hi all, This is a now you all have each other's email addresses email introduction. Rose and Meflin are the org admins for Systers. The rest of you are the Mailman mentors. As we discussed, some of the folk from Mailman will be helping with the mentoring for Systers, and Rose would like to

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Systers+Mailman GSoC introductions

2013-06-03 Thread Terri Oda
*sigh* And this is what I get for sending email while on painkillers. My apologies, all! Terri ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers Mailman FAQ:

Re: [Mailman-Developers] OpenPGP Mailman integration discussion [was: Re: GSoc - Requirement from Mentor to complete the project]

2013-05-09 Thread Terri Oda
On 13-05-09 11:17 AM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: I'm imagining a first phase (message authentication) would not expect or handle encrypted messages, but would just use cryptographic signatures to verify the authenticity of origin of the incoming message, enhancing (and/or replacing) some of the

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC Project Discussion - Web Posting Interface.

2013-05-08 Thread Terri Oda
In practical terms, I think the time would be better spent on integrating HyperKitty and Postorius for Mailman suite *first* and then dividing out the posting capability once the integration is done. That way the person who does this has some idea of the pain points of integration so they can

[Mailman-Developers] About authentication (was Re: Architecture for extra profile info)

2013-04-29 Thread Terri Oda
1. I would like to remind/tell you all that FOR THIS RELEASE, we will ONLY be supporting Mozilla Persona and passwords as authentication methods. This is not up for discussion at this time; it's a choice we've made to in order to help move the release forwards. 2. As such, any discussion

Re: [Mailman-Developers] About authentication (was Re: Architecture for extra profile info)

2013-04-29 Thread Terri Oda
On 13-04-29 3:25 PM, Richard Wackerbarth wrote: I'll go further than that and suggest, for the purpose of GSoC: [snip details] These are good if you're going to do the implementation. If you're not, I'm happy to leave some of these details up to the person who actually writes the code.

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSOC Project idea: OpenPGP integration

2013-04-26 Thread Terri Oda
On 04/26/2013 12:45 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: OTOH, maybe that's all security theater. If the Mailman system's private key is available to an attacker, then having the encrypted message on disk temporarily is probably not going to stop them from decrypting it. I've been wondering about that...

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Architecture for extra profile info

2013-04-26 Thread Terri Oda
So... What have we decided? :) From my fuzzy I read my email on a plane after delta woke me up at 3am to tell me my flight was cancelled level of recollection The few things I we actually agreed on: - We like the idea of a rest interface. - That interface/API should probably be decided

Re: [Mailman-Developers] anti-spam filter

2013-04-19 Thread Terri Oda
On 13-04-18 6:40 PM, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: If we stop at a programmable interface - which I understand is what you and Terri suggest - they will not be able to use Mailman in more complex setups, because integrating additional mail processing components would require them to program.

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Architecture for extra profile info

2013-04-18 Thread Terri Oda
On 13-04-18 8:03 AM, Richard Wackerbarth wrote: On Apr 18, 2013, at 1:19 AM, Florian Fuchs flo.fu...@gmail.com wrote: 1) It should be self-contained. Meaning: It should not depend on any mailman/mailman.client/postorius/hyperkitty packages. Agreed I agree about not needing

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Architecture for extra profile info

2013-04-18 Thread Terri Oda
On 13-04-18 2:28 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Main comment: Sounds like LDAP to me. Actually, this is a really important comment. I was sort of wondering that too when I started writing the description. LDAP is a moderately frequently requested feature already. Would it make sense to use

Re: [Mailman-Developers] anti-spam filter

2013-04-18 Thread Terri Oda
On 13-04-18 1:40 PM, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: I - personal opinion - think adding a anti-spam/abuse filter is a good idea. I do however stronly oppose against a hardcoded implemenation that e.g. integrates SpamAssassin only or a new Bayesian filter. I hope that no one was seriously

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Build a mailman3 development virtual machine with Vagrant and Chef

2013-04-18 Thread Terri Oda
Yeay, thanks! If you've got time, could you make sure your vm is linked on the mailman wiki docs? You can replace the comment I have on the GSoC page for sure, and there's probably a good place to link it in a couple setting up your dev environment pages. Terri On 13-04-18 1:39 AM, Xu

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSOC 2013 project discussion

2013-04-17 Thread Terri Oda
On 13-04-17 6:56 AM, Avik Pal wrote: Meanwhile It would be much appreciated if someone can direct me to an labeled dataset available on line. Leaving aside entirely the question of whether we should (or will) support any project that requires learning on this scale, as a former

Re: [Mailman-Developers] anti-spam filter

2013-04-17 Thread Terri Oda
under the umbrella of the Python Software Foundation. For further details, like actual numbers, Terri Oda (PSF org admin) is authoritative. Please be patient on this, as Terri is *very* busy right now. Also, you may not get hard numbers until the selection is actually made, since the PSF has

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSOC 2013 project discussion

2013-04-17 Thread Terri Oda
On 13-04-17 10:10 AM, Avik Pal wrote: Don't lose hope Terri, after digging for a couple of hours came across this and its pretty much updated. http://untroubled.org/spam/ Finding sources of spam (like that one) isn't that hard; it's finding sources of legit email combined with spam and

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSOC 2013 project discussion

2013-04-17 Thread Terri Oda
. On 17 April 2013 22:05, Terri Oda te...@zone12.com mailto:te...@zone12.com wrote: Finding sources of spam (like that one) isn't that hard; it's finding sources of legit email combined with spam and classified and processed in the same way that's challenging. As I said, you can

[Mailman-Developers] Architecture for extra profile info

2013-04-17 Thread Terri Oda
Background for folk new to this discussion: Currently, all user information is stored in Mailman core, but it's minimal: a real name, a set of email addresses, subscription info, and preferences. Barry suggests that it should stay minimal: only the things Mailman needs to know to correctly

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Boilerplate and content filtering [was: Introduction and Project Discussion]

2013-04-16 Thread Terri Oda
On 13-04-16 7:39 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: On Apr 16, 2013, at 06:49 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: In more detail, here's something I drafted at the Mailman Sprint. I can say that Terri got a kick out of it, but remember, it's not official, it's just my opinion. (I really should put it on the

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Setting up a VM.

2013-04-13 Thread Terri Oda
Hi Peter, Sorry about not getting back to you earlier; I'm the org admin for the PSF for the first time this year, and in case that wasn't enough, we've grown considerably and I've got a huge amount of email. Thanks for pinging me off-list to let me know I missed this one once you figured

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2013 - GNU Mailman - Introduction and Project Discussion

2013-04-11 Thread Terri Oda
On 13-04-11 10:44 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: 1. Mailman is the wrong place to do filtering. It's equally effective, normally covers more messages, and is somewhat more efficient in resource usage to do it at the MTA. 2. Any new algorithms*should* be made available at the MTA

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman not in GSOC'13 accepted organization

2013-04-09 Thread Terri Oda
Just like last year, Mailman's going to be participating as a sub-organization under the Python Software Foundation. Unfortunately, this means that our name doesn't show up directly on the org list -- you'll need to click through from python to find us. I'm going to set up some tags so the

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Like to participate in GSOC 2013 (GNU Mailman) - Like some ideas proposed in the list (Django, Python)

2013-04-08 Thread Terri Oda
On 13-04-08 10:19 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: The thing about Windows is that we're using several *nix-isms in process management and possibly in other places. I have no burning desire to try to make these Windows compatible. I'll bet the documentation would bite us pretty badly, too. While I

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSOC 2013 - Introduction and Project Discussion

2013-04-08 Thread Terri Oda
On 13-04-08 5:27 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Pierre-Yves Chibon writes: On Sat, 2013-04-06 at 15:03 +0530, Udit Saxena wrote: 2. Web Posting Interface. Isn't this similar/overlapping to what HyperKitty already does? No. There's no reason why a web posting interface needs to

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Like to participate in GSOC 2013 (GNU Mailman) - Like some ideas proposed in the list (Django, Python)

2013-04-07 Thread Terri Oda
On 13-04-07 8:00 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: This would solve the environment problem for students! Dunno if it's strictly better than an AWS instance, but I bet many would prefer it. I *do* have an older fedora vm set up for postorius work, which can be run from vmware on windows. It

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