[Mailman-Developers] Mailman user interface: draft of a mega drop-down navigation

2010-06-24 Thread Claudia Fleiner

Hi,

I´m Claudia Fleiner and I work together with Patrick Koetter and  
Florian Fuchs.


Here I will present you our idea of a mega drop-down navigation panel  
for the new Mailman user interface:

http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/Web+UI+Mockups

As the draft shows, a mega drop-down has the following characteristics:

1. The big panel is divided into groups of navigation options
2. Navigation choices is structured through layout, typography and icons
3. Eliminate scrolling: everything is visible at once

As shown in the draft, I put as navigation structure an example of the  
admin navigation options.

This structure will be revised into the right form later.

The icons I used in the draft are just placeholders. Nice Icons well  
adapted for the new navigation structure

will be designed in the next steps.

I hope you´ll like our idea of using drop-down navigations for the new  
user interface.

Please don´t hesitate to send us your feedback.


Kind regards,

Claudia




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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman user interface: draft of a mega drop-down navigation

2010-06-24 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jun 24, 2010, at 04:23 PM, Claudia Fleiner wrote:

I´m Claudia Fleiner and I work together with Patrick Koetter and Florian
Fuchs.

Here I will present you our idea of a mega drop-down navigation panelfor the 
new Mailman user interface:
http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/Web+UI+Mockups

As the draft shows, a mega drop-down has the following characteristics:

1. The big panel is divided into groups of navigation options
2. Navigation choices is structured through layout, typography and icons
3. Eliminate scrolling: everything is visible at once

As shown in the draft, I put as navigation structure an example of theadmin
navigation options.  This structure will be revised into the right form
later.

The icons I used in the draft are just placeholders. Nice Icons well adapted
for the new navigation structure will be designed in the next steps.

I hope you´ll like our idea of using drop-down navigations for the newuser
interface.  Please don´t hesitate to send us your feedback.

Very nice.  I like it a lot.

While I think we could use some re-evaluations of the categories, presenting
them in this way works well I think.  I think we won't have such a deep or
wide hierarchy that displaying them all will be too confusing.  The thing I
really like about this is that I can figure out exactly what's going on in one
quick glance, and can probably find my way to the section I care about very
easily (certainly much more easy than today).

I wonder, would it be possible to put tooltips on those menu items?

-Barry



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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman user interface: draft of a mega drop-down navigation

2010-06-24 Thread Terri Oda

Barry Warsaw wrote:

While I think we could use some re-evaluations of the categories, presenting
them in this way works well I think.  I think we won't have such a deep or
wide hierarchy that displaying them all will be too confusing.  The thing I
really like about this is that I can figure out exactly what's going on in one
quick glance, and can probably find my way to the section I care about very
easily (certainly much more easy than today).


Agreed, both in that it looks lovely and that we need to redesign those 
categories badly.


I also reiterate that we need a search option for finding admin options. 
 There's just too many for average list administrators (who probably 
use this part of the interface once a month or less) to remember the 
hierarchy.  Most people nowadays seem to be heavily reliant upon search.


 Terri
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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman user interface: draft of a mega drop-down navigation

2010-06-24 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jun 24, 2010, at 11:37 AM, Terri Oda wrote:

I also reiterate that we need a search option for finding admin options.
There's just too many for average list administrators (who probably use this
part of the interface once a month or less) to remember the hierarchy.  Most
people nowadays seem to be heavily reliant upon search.

+1

Searching on variable name and description at the least (which we should
probably improve too ;).

-Barry


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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman user interface: draft of a mega drop-down navigation

2010-06-24 Thread Geoff Shang

On Thu, 24 Jun 2010, Claudia Fleiner wrote:

Here I will present you our idea of a mega drop-down navigation panel for the 
new Mailman user interface:

http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/Web+UI+Mockups


Can anyone explain this a bit for those of us who can't see this image? 
Or better still, point us at a coded example?


Geoff.

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman user interface: draft of a mega drop-down navigation

2010-06-24 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-06-24 12:09 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
 On Jun 24, 2010, at 11:37 AM, Terri Oda wrote:
 
 I also reiterate that we need a search option for finding admin options.
 There's just too many for average list administrators (who probably use this
 part of the interface once a month or less) to remember the hierarchy.  Most
 people nowadays seem to be heavily reliant upon search.

 +1
 
 Searching on variable name and description at the least (which we should
 probably improve too ;).

How about also including a checkbox option (unchecked by default) to
'include online Knowledgebase/FAQ in seach results' (separated from hits
in the Admin intrfce itself)? Or would that be overkill?
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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman user interface: draft of a mega drop-down navigation

2010-06-24 Thread Patrick Ben Koetter
* Geoff Shang ge...@quitelikely.com:
 On Thu, 24 Jun 2010, Claudia Fleiner wrote:
 
 Here I will present you our idea of a mega drop-down navigation
 panel for the new Mailman user interface:
 http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/Web+UI+Mockups
 
 Can anyone explain this a bit for those of us who can't see this
 image? Or better still, point us at a coded example?

The overall style is light. Lot's of whitespace creates room to distinguish
object from each other.

The compositional focus is on the content area. Logo and navigation stand back
to let users concentrate on the task they need to accomplish.

The page is white. The navigation color scheme used is dark blue for typo and
light blue as background color. There's a broad border around the navigation
pane. It is semi-transparent.

When opened, i.e. when level 2 and 3 are visible, the navigation layers over
the content drawing users attention to the navigation only.

The navigation is horizontal to make way for applications that take place
beneath; applications usually require more place than text/images pages.

You can see navigation level 1.

The navigation differs from traditional navigations in a few ways:

- When you hover the mouse or focus a menu entry using keyboard navigation you
  get to see both, level 2 and 3, at once. A large rectangle (wider than
  higher) creates the canvas for for both levels.
- A topic specific icon prepends evey level 2 item.
- Level 2 items are aligned to the left and in bold text.
- Level 3 items, if there are any, follow right hand to their correspondent
  level 2 entry on the same line. They are displayed in regular font weight.
- If there were so many level 3 items that they needed to wrap to the next
  line, they would indent starting at the same left margin where the first
  level 3 item started.


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