On 10/24/11 10:31 AM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
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On 10/25/11 6:00 AM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
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Subject: Re: [Mailman-Developers] New RFC on using DKIM with MLMs
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safe encoding if needed for
transport.
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with the
recipients public-key, so only this last piece needs to be done per
recipient. You probably need to send copies individually, or every
message will have information about who is subscribed to the list.
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the
discussion (for the threaded view), this is done by message headers in
the email put in by the replying email program, which indicate the
message-id (a unique identifier added to all emails by email systems) of
the message it is a reply to.
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ESPs are
probably ready to take MUA improvement seriously. (Starting with
protecting addressbooks, of course, but HCI stuff too I hope.)
Where is Dave Hayes when we so desperately need his AI newsreader?
Steve
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On 6/4/14, 11:39 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
Richard Damon writes:
There are some domains (like banks but NOT Yahoo and AOL) whose email is
important to verify identity of sender, who should have some form of
certificate that shows they have been verified by a trusted 3rd party
setting if the member's value is None.
How about that ? Other suggestions?
Aurélien
The only way I could see that would be to make the flag 3 valued:
They are moderated
They are not moderated
They are in the default state of moderation, see the lists default value.
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Why would it? There isn't anything special about the link that would
tell mailman to do so.
Ideally, people would have signature separators that would cause the
footer to be trimmed, but that isn't mailman's job. (like Mark's did for
me).
On 1/13/15 10:06 PM, Andrew Stuart wrote:
Should
On 3/8/15 5:03 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
Richard Damon writes:
This is why I say that having only per-thread limits isn't workable,
as threads are too fragile.
Systers-style dynamic lists may fix this problem.
On most discussion lists subscription is open, so you'd end up
is the
hex value of the character, this now makes % a problem char so it is
sent as part of the URL as %25)
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there is a much stronger definition of Thread and people may be much
less inclined to break thread to bypass limits.
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throttling system (or both).
This is why I made the comment that per thread limits really need to
be combined with some form of over-all limit or new-thread limit to
minimize the ability to game the system.
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Most definitely, just as I hope the per thread limits are something
the list-admin can control, as again, that is something very much list
dependent. And again, those limits would be time rate based, not an
absolute value.
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).
The one address that I wouldn't want throttled would be my official
address as list-admin, but it wouldn't have enough posts on it to
trigger the limits anyway.
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affect the discussion going on as some threads are very
long and also important and can't be shortened.
Regards
Aanand
Yes, I understand that the limit isn't a limit on absolute number of
posts, but a rate-limit on posting.
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(your foo) probably should include the list name in a
way that avoids clashed between multiple uses of the module on different
lists, or other uses of the domain. It might be something like
listname+random@listdomain or listname-random@listdomain
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On 3/12/16 4:19 PM, Wasim Thabraze wrote:
Hello everyone,
The GSoC idea states 'a tool that will take a thread from a Mailman
mailing list and..'. I just wanted to know what are the different ways to
extract a thread from a mailing list.
I'm actually trying to understand the idea from a
erated by the list, thus every message will have the same sort of
Message-ID, removing its ability to trace back (somewhat) to the poster.
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apply the update before
that happens.
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On 3/18/17 4:37 PM, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 05:30:36PM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote:
...
It *might* be.
The problem is that the list owner and other list members have no way to
know. From their point of view, there is no way to know that whether the
latest list member --
t
to contact the 'team', and the list subscribers are the support team to
handle the messages. This is a different model than discussion lists
like this, but is one that is supported by Mailman.
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me back
(perhaps the user goes on vacation and mail box fills). Suspending and
then unsubscribing makes a lot of sense. Totally forgetting about the
address doesn't.
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the old page), so you are dealing with a 'race' condition, and may
create a bigger delay in order to try and handle the issue.
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it
to accumulate enough of a score to disable the address, while a very
busy list likely wants a very short period so very occasional bounce
backs (like false positive spam rejects) don't get a chance to accumulate.
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hat in the rules, it is hard to see how to deal with
both lists with a common counter. And keeping track of success can be
hard, as some systems will accept the message, and later return the
rejection message (this does have back-scatter issues, but it is done),
and the delay can be significant
use of lists 2 occasional spam
false alarms, which required the elevated threshold (or even just
wanting to give a few days to clear a mailbox full error) the user gets
unsubscribed from list1 to rapidly. If list1 raises its threshold to
handle that, a subsc
n your face, you go to subscribe to a list and find
you already have an 'user account' on that machine.
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uest point, and keeps addresses that match that list
from entering a subscription. Once they get past that point, the ban
list isn't checked again, so yes, you can have subscription requests and
subscriptions from a banned email address, those addresses just c
Discussion based lists tend to require subscription to post, but many
support lists don't. Though I suppose the attacker would need to get
subscribed to the support list to act on the confirmation message, which
makes that path harder and less likely.
One solution would be to add a 'spam' filter
On 2/1/21 3:25 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> Richard Damon writes:
>
> > It is one of the 'Markdown' codes for a horizontal rule
>
> But 72 of them? Don't most people use about 5?
But if they are using it AS the horizontal rule in a plain text
document, it could e
it will automatically remove the list footer
from a reply to the list.
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On 1/30/21 8:23 AM, Sam Kuper wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 06:19:41AM -0500, Richard Damon wrote:
>> On 1/30/21 3:28 AM, Sam Kuper wrote:
>>> Sender signature != ML footer.
>>>
>>> So, as Stephen says, the separators used to indicate those two
>
On 1/30/21 9:40 PM, Sam Kuper wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 11:22:43AM -0500, Richard Damon wrote:
>> On 1/30/21 8:23 AM, Sam Kuper wrote:
>>> [Unless] signatures and footers use distinct separators, it would not
>>> be practical for MUA developers to
On 1/31/21 9:20 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> Richard Damon writes:
> > On 1/30/21 9:40 PM, Sam Kuper wrote:
>
> > > All I am advocating is that:
>
> > > 2. Footer separators should be distinguishable from likely body
> > > text, and should n
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