Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 3.1 beta coming soon

[Terri Oda]

On 2016-12-08 9:45 AM, Florian Fuchs wrote:
 you have a traceback somewhere? If you're logging in for the first

time, it *might* have to do with allauth trying to verify your email
address by sending you an confirmation email (which probably fails if
you don't have smtp set up on your mac).

If that's the case, we should probably try to catch this condition and
display a useful error message instead of just letting it break.


The email *would* make sense, and would explain why I saw the error more 
often associated with macs.  If that's the case it sounds like an error 
that should be caught and explained.  I'll file a bug and dump the 
traceback there.


 Terri


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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 3.1 beta coming soon

[Mark Sapiro]

On 12/10/2016 12:52 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> 
> Please do rebase and if you can, remilestone the MR to 3.1.  We'll get it in.


Done. There is one "temporary" commit in my MR to work around
 and get "docs" to pass.


>> I can also work on Postorius. Also in this vein I have a question.
>> Should the DMARC settings be added to the Alter Messages tab in the List
>> Settings view or would it be better to have a separate DMARC Mitigations
>> tab.
> 
> My gut reaction is to add a separate DMARC Mitigations tab, but Florian and
> Terri have final say I think.


I have a WIP MR at
 that adds a
tab. Maybe Florian and Terri can look at that and chime in.

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 3.1 beta coming soon

[Barry Warsaw]

On Dec 09, 2016, at 09:37 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote:

>I understand you need to feel comfortable about everything going into
>the core and this takes time and energy to review all the MRs, but I
>think it is pretty important to get the DMARC mitigations into the core.
>If there's anything I can do to help with this, let me know.
>
>I will rebase my branch again and possibly make one minor tweak, but I
>think it should be OK.

Thanks for pushing back on this Mark.  Obviously, I have a high degree of
trust in your work, but yeah, my compulsive behavior is showing through. ;)

Please do rebase and if you can, remilestone the MR to 3.1.  We'll get it in.

>I can also work on Postorius. Also in this vein I have a question.
>Should the DMARC settings be added to the Alter Messages tab in the List
>Settings view or would it be better to have a separate DMARC Mitigations
>tab.

My gut reaction is to add a separate DMARC Mitigations tab, but Florian and
Terri have final say I think.

Cheers,
-Barry


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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 3.1 beta coming soon

[Mark Sapiro]

On 12/02/2016 08:07 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> Hello Mailman 3 users and developers!
> 
> It's been a long slog but I think we are finally ready to begin the release
> process for Mailman 3.1.  I am pretty happy about the state of the Core, and
> Florian is going to do some more integration testing with HyperKitty and
> Postorius.  We still have a few issues and a merge proposal or two to address,
> but I am planning to spin a beta of Core this weekend to facilitate testing.


Barry,

I understand you need to feel comfortable about everything going into
the core and this takes time and energy to review all the MRs, but I
think it is pretty important to get the DMARC mitigations into the core.
If there's anything I can do to help with this, let me know.

I will rebase my branch again and possibly make one minor tweak, but I
think it should be OK.

I can also work on Postorius. Also in this vein I have a question.
Should the DMARC settings be added to the Alter Messages tab in the List
Settings view or would it be better to have a separate DMARC Mitigations
tab.

-- 
Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan



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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 3.1 beta coming soon

[Florian Fuchs]

On Sat, Dec 03, 2016 at 17:25:24PM -0800, Terri Oda wrote:

On 2016-12-03 12:22 PM, Florian Fuchs wrote:

I did some manual integration testing today
(core+mailmanclient+postorius) which looked fine so far. I didn't get
to test HyperKitty and the bundler though, so any help testing those
would be very much appreciated. I will have some more time tomorrow.


I tried to do some testing based on these wiki instructions last weekend
https://wiki.list.org/HyperKitty/DevelopmentSetupGuide

and hit a "[Errno 61] Connection refused" issue when attempting to log 
in to Postorius.  I suspect it might be an issue with the mac, since 
googling for the error (it's a django one) seems to find a lot of 
people on macs with problems, but I didn't manage to narrow it down 
more than that to make a useful bug report.


Do you have a traceback somewhere? If you're logging in for the first
time, it *might* have to do with allauth trying to verify your email
address by sending you an confirmation email (which probably fails if
you don't have smtp set up on your mac).

If that's the case, we should probably try to catch this condition and
display a useful error message instead of just letting it break.

Cheers
Florian

I did set up a new linux install on another machine to work on next, 
though, so I may have something else to say on that front tomorrow.


Terri


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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 3.1 beta coming soon

[Terri Oda]

On 2016-12-03 12:22 PM, Florian Fuchs wrote:

I did some manual integration testing today
(core+mailmanclient+postorius) which looked fine so far. I didn't get
to test HyperKitty and the bundler though, so any help testing those
would be very much appreciated. I will have some more time tomorrow.


I tried to do some testing based on these wiki instructions last weekend
https://wiki.list.org/HyperKitty/DevelopmentSetupGuide

and hit a "[Errno 61] Connection refused" issue when attempting to log 
in to Postorius.  I suspect it might be an issue with the mac, since 
googling for the error (it's a django one) seems to find a lot of people 
on macs with problems, but I didn't manage to narrow it down more than 
that to make a useful bug report.


I did set up a new linux install on another machine to work on next, 
though, so I may have something else to say on that front tomorrow.


 Terri


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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 3.1 beta coming soon

[Barry Warsaw]

Thanks for doing the testing Florian.  Btw I fixed the venv problem. It was 
actually a bug in one of the dependencies.  I have another small branch to land 
before spinning the beta but I think the MySQL docker image on ci is having 
some problems. I can't double check ATM.

Sent from my digital lollipop.

> On Dec 3, 2016, at 15:22, Florian Fuchs  wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 11:07:24AM -0500, Barry Warsaw wrote:
>> Hello Mailman 3 users and developers!
>> 
>> It's been a long slog but I think we are finally ready to begin the release
>> process for Mailman 3.1.  I am pretty happy about the state of the Core, and
>> Florian is going to do some more integration testing with HyperKitty and
>> Postorius.  We still have a few issues and a merge proposal or two to 
>> address,
> 
> I did some manual integration testing today
> (core+mailmanclient+postorius) which looked fine so far. I didn't get
> to test HyperKitty and the bundler though, so any help testing those
> would be very much appreciated. I will have some more time tomorrow.
> 
> I did all of my testing locally, which has some limitations. So I
> started setting up a more realistic environment on one of my dev
> machines. But I'm not done yet. Will report back when I'm done... ;-)
> 
>> but I am planning to spin a beta of Core this weekend to facilitate testing.
> 
> I think it's OK to put out a separate beta of the core, because the
> version pulled from pypi will still be 3.0 if I'm not terribly mistaken.
> 
> For the real 3.1 we should probably do a coordinated release of all
> components, once everything's tested a little more thoroughly.
> 
> Cheers
> Florian

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 3.1 beta coming soon

[Florian Fuchs]

On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 11:07:24AM -0500, Barry Warsaw wrote:

Hello Mailman 3 users and developers!

It's been a long slog but I think we are finally ready to begin the release
process for Mailman 3.1.  I am pretty happy about the state of the Core, and
Florian is going to do some more integration testing with HyperKitty and
Postorius.  We still have a few issues and a merge proposal or two to address,


I did some manual integration testing today
(core+mailmanclient+postorius) which looked fine so far. I didn't get
to test HyperKitty and the bundler though, so any help testing those
would be very much appreciated. I will have some more time tomorrow.

I did all of my testing locally, which has some limitations. So I
started setting up a more realistic environment on one of my dev
machines. But I'm not done yet. Will report back when I'm done... ;-)


but I am planning to spin a beta of Core this weekend to facilitate testing.


I think it's OK to put out a separate beta of the core, because the
version pulled from pypi will still be 3.0 if I'm not terribly mistaken.

For the real 3.1 we should probably do a coordinated release of all
components, once everything's tested a little more thoroughly.

Cheers
Florian
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[Mailman-Developers] Mailman 3.1 beta coming soon

[Barry Warsaw]

Hello Mailman 3 users and developers!

It's been a long slog but I think we are finally ready to begin the release
process for Mailman 3.1.  I am pretty happy about the state of the Core, and
Florian is going to do some more integration testing with HyperKitty and
Postorius.  We still have a few issues and a merge proposal or two to address,
but I am planning to spin a beta of Core this weekend to facilitate testing.

Here is the Core's 3.1 milestone page:

https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/milestones/2

If your favorite issue or merge request isn't on that list, please do get in
touch.  Otherwise it will be deferred to 3.2.  I'm also not entirely promising
I'll get to all of these; I really want to release 3.1 in 2016 so if we run
out of time, it will get deferred.

Here's the project-wide list of 3.1 issues:

https://gitlab.com/groups/mailman/issues?scope=all=opened=%E2%9C%93_title=3.1

and merge requests:

https://gitlab.com/groups/mailman/merge_requests?scope=all=opened=%E2%9C%93_title=3.1

Except that HyperKitty isn't on this list.

Please do test whatever you can and let us know how it goes.

Cheers,
-Barry


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