[Mailman-Users] Re: New mailman instance

On 5/4/2024 1:45 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 7:54 PM Carl Zwanzig wrote: Last I checked, MM3 was just not suitable for a small set of smaller lists and to be maintained by less experienced people. In what aspects was it not suitable? I have never encountered

[Mailman-Users] Re: New mailman instance

On 5/3/2024 4:25 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: Not to answer your question, but may I suggest you stop learning about Mailman2 and look at Mailman3 instead? Last I checked, MM3 was just not suitable for a small set of smaller lists and to be maintained by less experienced people. Perhaps

[Mailman-Users] Re: Digest not being received in a timely fashion

On 3/8/2024 8:58 PM, j...@janalexander.ca wrote: 1. Where do I see the raw text of the received digest? It depends on how you're reading the email. In Thunderbird, control-U will open a new windows with the raw message. Roundcube Webmail has a "show source" button, other clients should have

[Mailman-Users] Re: Attach footer only once?

On 2/12/2024 5:30 AM, Richard wrote: That's just silly: We've had "diff" for over THREE full decades now, to say nothing of the variants. And diff is going to fail for this, at least part of the time. A VERY straight-forward strategy would be to diff the current inbound against the previous

[Mailman-Users] Re: Attach footer only once?

On 2/9/2024 3:31 PM, H Ian Zhang via Mailman-Users wrote: This is, of course, an organisational/educationl issue, not a technical one. And unfortunately, solving "people problems" with technology seldom ends well. (arguments for top posting and not trimming quotes- "But it's got the entire

[Mailman-Users] Re: Attach footer only once?

On 2/8/2024 3:24 PM, Tim Houseman wrote: Is it possible for footers to only be attached once? I am hosting a legal mailing list and their footer is quite long. We recently updated to Mailman 3 and the list has become more active as a result but in that activity the users have noticed that the

[Mailman-Users] Re: Web page hosts that offer Mailman

On 11/21/2023 6:35 AM, Robert A. Hamilton wrote: Any suggestions? Sure, check the FAQ for "Mailman hosting services" (https://wiki.list.org/COM/Mailman%20hosting%20services); also this has been covered in the list archives more than a couple of times (links in the footer). Later, z!

[Mailman-Users] Re: Excessive or fatal bounces issue

On 8/3/2023 8:28 PM, Florin Pasăre wrote: I know we should upgrade, but because of company policies this is not really an option at the moment, at least not an upgrade to Mailman 3. Even upgrading to the 2.1.39 (latest) would be a good idea and may solve some of the problems. (It's a fairly

[Mailman-Users] Re: Excessive or fatal bounces issue

On 7/31/2023 5:53 AM, Florin Pasăre wrote: We are using Mailman 2.1.15. Why are you using such an old version of mailman? It's quite possible that a newer version, along with DKIM/SPF DNS records that Odhiambo mentioned, would clear up at least part of the problems. Also, please look at

[Mailman-Users] Re: Python 2.7.15, etc, vs Python3...

On 7/18/2023 6:39 AM, rich...@karmannghia.org wrote: Why isn't it just "Python"? Werlll... https://www.pluralsight.com/resources/blog/cloud/the-story-of-python-2-and-3 "Python 3 exists because Guido saw areas of the language that needed some improvements and the changes couldn’t be made with

[Mailman-Users] Re: Python 2.7.15, etc, vs Python3...

On 7/17/2023 5:54 PM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote: Python 2 and Python 3 are enough different to effectively be different languages. BTW, there is a python2 to 3 converter, however -I- don't know how successful that would be and I've done multiple language conversions over time

[Mailman-Users] Re: Python 2.7.15, etc, vs Python3...

On 7/17/2023 5:24 PM, rich...@karmannghia.org wrote: Inching forward here folks, trying to get Mailman 2.1.39 going. [...] OTOH, can Python3 (what's there now) be THAT backwards incompatible?! Oh yes it can! In some ways, it's a completely different language (and for that reason, MM2 hasn't

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists

On 7/5/2023 12:54 PM, Charles Buckley wrote: My server is one of those shared servers, to which I do not have shell access. Mailman would have to be reinstalled by the sysadmins -- I can't do it. I have involved them, but they're still coming up to speed. That in itself is a trifle worrying--

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists

On 7/5/2023 1:27 AM, Charles Buckley wrote: Any advice would be appreciated. My first advice would be to upgrade to the current 2.1 mailman (.39?) and try it again; 2.15 is -really- old and this behavior may be due to a bug that's been fixed. z!

[Mailman-Users] Re: Question about content filtering in message body

On 5/18/2023 9:45 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: rspamd or spamassassin, not clamav! Ah, yes. Not enough coffee in my yet. z! -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to

[Mailman-Users] Re: Question about content filtering in message body

On 5/18/2023 8:44 AM, Scott High wrote: I'm looking for a way to content filter the text of the message body (i.e. blacklist bad words, etc) to a list. I've looked at Content Filtering, but that appears to be associated with message type, not message text? And Topics filters appears to just be

[Mailman-Users] Re: where is the mailman2 config file loacted - VPS server, running centos 7, WHM / cpanel 106.0.13,

On 1/24/2023 9:37 AM, jerry.barna...@gmail.com wrote: So here is the problem that I am trying to solve - I can automate adding /removing users to lists and addiing/removing lists ... but I don't see anyway to automate the setting of the moderation flag on or off for adding email addresses to:

[Mailman-Users] Re: where is the mailman2 config file loacted - VPS server, running centos 7, WHM / cpanel 106.0.13,

On 1/24/2023 8:45 AM, jerry.barna...@gmail.com wrote: Where is this file - wanting to change the mailman db to use Mariadb and there is supposed to be a config setting where I can change the db that mailman uses You might be thinking of Mailman3; most Mailman2 info is kept in python

[Mailman-Users] Re: AOL -- Automatically Sending List to Spam Folder

On 10/19/2022 5:26 PM, Robert Heller wrote: You should be aware that AOL is Yahoo. So what is really happening is *Yahoo Mail* is doing this. Yahoo bought AOL, Verizon bought Yahoo, and then Verizon sold Yahoo to a holding company. Did they merge the email systems? z!

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman2 issue - "Your message was rejected"

On 9/27/2022 9:16 PM, Yuki Nie wrote: When I send an email to a mailling list from a non-member, I got the error msg "Your message was rejected". However, the non-member has been defined in accept_these_nonmembers = ['test-info@xx']. some options: accept_these_nonmembers = ['test-info@xx']

[Mailman-Users] Re: Double opt-in, Question about adding people to a Mailman list

On 5/22/2022 12:17 AM, Jayson Smith wrote: Recently our president has become concerned that some people wanting to join the group may not be responding to the standard Mailman subscription confirmation message because, from the From: line and the subject line, they're not sure what it is and

[Mailman-Users] Re: group mismatch

On 5/16/2022 4:31 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: That's a Debian 'feature'. Which then makes me wonder if there are other Debian "features" getting in the way. z! -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an

[Mailman-Users] Re: group mismatch

Going back to the original email- On 5/15/2022 4:35 PM, Jon Baron wrote: "Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed as one of the following groups: [mail, postfix, mailman, nobody, daemon], but the system's mail server executed the mail script as group:

[Mailman-Users] Re: group mismatch

On 5/16/2022 3:42 AM, Jon Baron wrote: procmail is not "running". It is not listed in any version of "ps". It is evoked by sendmail or by /etc/aliases.db. sendmail and aliases.db are both owned by root and smmsp. It is "run" or "envoked" on-demand by sendmail to execute the line in the

[Mailman-Users] Re: What regular expressions are allowed for Mailman topics?

On 5/14/2022 9:58 AM, frank.thom...@gmx.net wrote: Out Mailman version is 2.1.9 Really? 2.1.9 is over 15 years old and 30 releases behind. Don't tell me :-). But we can't influence that. We are just consumers of this service You need to start consuming a new service :). z!

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman2 x Debian 11 x Python3

On 5/10/2022 11:57 AM, Andre de Azevedo Cunha wrote: Its possible to run mailman2 in debian11 (with python3)? MM2 will not run with python3 without major changes (and is considered end-of-life because of that). You might try on the mailman 3 user's list for ideas about that feature. Later,

[Mailman-Users] Re: Step by step guide to installing Mailman

On 4/5/2022 7:10 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Carl is simply explaining why Mailman 2 may still be a good choice. Exactly, look at the up- and down-sides of each then decide. z! -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org

[Mailman-Users] Re: Step by step guide to installing Mailman

On 4/4/2022 5:56 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: Please note that Mailman-2.x (2.1.37 is the latest) is slowly being EoLed because Python-2.7 is EoL. Please also note that for some uses and for some people, MM2 is probably still the better choice- quicker/easier to install and as I understand

[Mailman-Users] Re: Moderation bit not working?

On 2/15/2022 4:41 PM, billy noah wrote: The reason is: Reason: Post by non-member to a members-only list Which is clearly wrong. I've double and triple checked and this person is definitely a member. Often this happens when email addresses slightly differ, such as "c...@mail.domain.com" vs

[Mailman-Users] Re: illegal BOM

On 2/3/2022 5:58 AM, Christian via Mailman-Users wrote: From tine to time I get bounce messages (for several recipients, today 4 of a total of 165) with the folloeing content: Are those coming from the same recipients? same hosts? (same sender?) Looking for any commonality between failures.

[Mailman-Users] Re: is log4j2 leveraged in Mailman version 2.1.14-1?

On 12/10/2021 1:28 PM, John Lake wrote: @Carl Zwanzig-- excellent point, I've inherited this older version of Mailman and its definitely on my maintenance debt list to upgrade to ver 3+.  You can upgrade to 2.1.current(35?) quite easily, might take an hour :D. Highly recommended. z

[Mailman-Users] Re: is log4j2 leveraged in Mailman version 2.1.14-1?

On 12/10/2021 1:00 PM, David Gibbs via Mailman-Users wrote: On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 2:40 PM John Lake wrote: Does Mailman version 2.1.14-1 utilize Java logging library log4j2 and if so, what version does it use? Mailman is written in python ... it doesn't use java libraries at all. And if

[Mailman-Users] Re: customized From handling?

On 11/5/2021 12:02 PM, Rich Morin wrote: In any event, the blinux-list admins would probably be more inclined to update within version 2.1.x (and tweak the config a bit) than to move to version 3. For casual use, setting up mailman3 is a lot of work IMHO. Where can I find the right place to

[Mailman-Users] Re: customized From handling?

On 11/5/2021 11:48 AM, Rich Morin wrote: Apologies for the confusion and thanks for the clarification. As a complete newbie to Mailman, I didn't even notice that there was a major revision involved :-). Looking at the headers of a recent blinux-list message, I see: X-Mailman-Version:

[Mailman-Users] Re: Web requests with garbage at the end of the list name

On 8/18/2021 1:15 PM, David Gibbs via Mailman-Users wrote: The pattern is rather consistent ... "__;!NV" followed by a bunch of garbage. I don't recognize the encoding, but that looks like someone is trying an SQL injection attack. I could also be wrong. z!

[Mailman-Users] Re: User receiving mail, but not subscribed

On 8/16/2021 10:30 AM, Jim Dory wrote: I've asked her to run it by the IT department of her corporation, but thought I would ask here in case there is something I need to do instead. I thought that the "on behalf of listname-requ...@domain.com" was pretty unusual, or something I don't usually

[Mailman-Users] Re: the mailman group was deleted on our 2.120 running on ubuntu 18.04. no mail being distributed now

On 8/12/2021 3:52 AM, avra...@jct.ac.il wrote: we re-created the group, but that has not fixed the problem. Was it created with the same GID? Check that first (run mailman/bin/check_perms). in order to restore normal operation, perhaps something must be done to this group besides simply

[Mailman-Users] Re: Feature Request - Show Member Name but not email address

On 7/19/2021 6:59 AM, Gregory Beyer wrote:   Would you please add to the Privacy Options section, Membership Exposure, an option to show only the member name, but keep their email address hidden from the member list, that non-admin members may view?  I'd like my members to see who, by name, is

[Mailman-Users] Freebsd & mailman

(subject changed to protect the original thread) On 6/6/2021 6:21 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: PS Sadly, FreeBSD.org are abandonning Mailman-2 for mlmmj ! ? Do you mean the freebsd.org-hosted lists or the freebsd port? I've been running mm2 on freebsd for quite a long time, never from the

[Mailman-Users] Re: What to do when hosting providers frequently gets listed on an RBL

On 6/5/2021 1:31 PM, Christian Buser via Mailman-Users wrote: Hello Mark Sapiro. On Sat, 5 Jun 2021 12:44:52 -0700, you wrote: In the past, Brian Carpenter of EMWD would have responded by now with an offer to support your list and help move it, but tragically, Brian recently died from a COVID

[Mailman-Users] Re: GNU Mailman condemns reinstatement of RMS

IMNSHO a technical mailing list is not the place to argue about politics. If you don't like the actions taken MM board, talk to them; don't bother the rest of us with it. (In keeping with that, I've removed my original rebuttals to Ruben from this message.) z!

[Mailman-Users] Re: AT RBL again

On 3/30/2021 9:28 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: I had two servers blocked by ATT, fortunately not this one. They were both DigitalOcean droplets,[...] FWIW, a couple of my regular correspondents have said that DO generally does not have a great email reputation, and that they're moving lists to

[Mailman-Users] Re: What does rmlist remove?

On 3/23/2021 4:18 AM, Johannes Rohr wrote: what files are being removed by rmlist (without -a). I suppose, /var/lib/mailman/lists/$LISTNAME/config.pck and the entries in /var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman When I restore both, have I restored the list? Mailman2 uses no database, so maybe the

[Mailman-Users] Re: Migration to new server questions after having done research & testing ahead of time.

On 3/17/2021 8:32 AM, Bader, Robert (Bob) wrote: I am basically handed a new server that has Mailman & Apache installed. Danger are those current software? * Am I missing anything? Yes... * Also old server is version 2.1.12 and new version is version 2.1.15. will that be

[Mailman-Users] Re: is there a short instruction guide available?

On 3/17/2021 9:04 AM, Jeffrey Westgate wrote: We are trying to determine the best methods of taking a long-working mailman list server, with 43 active lists, and 'moving' it behind an F5. Unless I'm dreadfully mistaken, the f5 should be transparent to the traffic if the rules are set correctly.

[Mailman-Users] Re: Does mailman work well for large lists?

On 2/27/2021 11:42 AM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote: I don't think the number of lists is as important as the number of subscribers on each list. IIRC, there are/were some MM2 lists of over 100k subscribers. Key is to supply enough resources (proc & memory, bonus for fast storage).

[Mailman-Users] Re: Export members

On 1/27/2021 7:58 AM, David Doonan via Mailman-Users wrote: Is there a way to export the members of a list? the bin/list_members script in the mailman directory; needs shell access z! -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org

[Mailman-Users] Re: CPU %-usage surge associated with list archives

On 11/17/2020 8:30 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Are we FHS conformant? If not, why would it be a bad idea to become FHS-conformant (aaside from the effort required)? I don't think so and that would probably break non linux systems (e.g. xBSD). Might be OK to add FHS as an option to the

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

For clarity- As I understand, given the language differences MM3 was a complete rewrite of MM2, so the only common parts are some features, the use of python (at all), and the name. Yes? Therefore anyone working on MM2 isn't impeding the work on MM3, especially if they weren't going to work on

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

On 8/27/2020 9:54 AM, Phil Stracchino wrote: Currently there is no active ebuild for mailman in Gentoo. 2.1.33 has been masked, there is no 2.1.34, and 3.3.0 and 3.3.1 exist but have not yet been marked stable or unmasked. FWIW, FreeBSD 12.1-RELEASE amd64 has 2.1.34 in both the pkg repo and

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

On 8/26/2020 8:17 PM, Brian Carpenter wrote: I am sure Mark has moved on from Mailman 2, at least he has said that on numerous occasions. It is you folks that won't let him. You want to keep using MM2 and you want the developers to keep supporting it. That pressure can/does hinder the work on

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

On 8/26/2020 3:50 PM, Brian Carpenter wrote: On 8/26/20 6:25 PM, Carl Zwanzig wrote: So they will not notice a migration to Mailman 3 at all then. You miss the point- _I'll_ notice, I'm the one who'd be doing the work. Also, from https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/pre-installation

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

On 8/26/2020 2:05 PM, Brian Carpenter wrote: Get off a ship that is no longer sailing ahead and wants to instead to permanently anchor in place. As someone regularly uses and maintains a fair bit of old and antique machinery, MM2 still has a lot of life in it. Yes, the original team isn't

[Mailman-Users] Re: Compiling mailaman-2.1.x against python3.x

On 7/18/2020 2:50 PM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 at 20:37, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Which is expected because Mailman 2.1 does not support Python 3 and > never will. (If anyone knows about this, it's Mark.) Python3.x is also supposed to work. (See above) I'd like to

[Mailman-Users] Re: Compiling mailaman-2.1.x against python3.x

On 7/18/2020 12:14 PM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: I am trying to manually compile mailman-2.1.34 against python3.x on FreeBSD-12.1 because python2.7 is being EoLed on the platform. 2.7 is still available for Freebsd 12.1 and won't stop working just being EOL'd. This may have changed, but- On

[Mailman-Users] Re: error installing Mailman 2.1.12

On 6/18/2020 12:42 PM, Anatoly Oreshkin wrote: Compiling /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/versions.py ... Downgrade detected, from version 0x20114f0 to version 0x2010cf0 This is probably not safe. Exiting. make: *** [update] Error 1 What is the cause of these errors ? How to solve this problem ?

[Mailman-Users] Re: searchable private mailing lists in Mailman 2.1.20

Please keep this on-list On 6/18/2020 12:23 PM, Anatoly Oreshkin wrote: My private list archives are local files and directories. Mnogosearch can search my list archives but how to integrate Mailman and Mnogosearch ? I need a mnogosearch search string to be on Mailman archive TOC page I

[Mailman-Users] Re: searchable private mailing lists in Mailman 2.1.20

On 6/18/2020 2:46 AM, Anatoly Oreshkin wrote: I've installed Mailman 2.1.20 on my server. That is rather old now, you'll do better installing the current version unless there's a strong reason not to. I would like to have the possibility to search private mailing lists. As mailing lists

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman3 installation for large organization

Hello, On 6/16/2020 8:27 AM, Waqas Ahmed Khan wrote: I have been given the task to install Mailman3 for a large organization, where the list will send emails to 80-100K users. First, you probably want to be asking on the mailman3 list-

[Mailman-Users] Re: blocking a hot/inappropriate topic

On 6/12/2020 8:59 AM, Bernie Cosell wrote: 1) is there a way to temporarily disable a mailing list short of removing the alias that points to it? I was thinking that perhaps I could've put in a "sender filter" that rejected everyone or something like that. You can put it on "emergency

[Mailman-Users] Re: Differences between Mailman 2 and 3

On 5/29/2020 2:16 PM, Iain Harrison via Mailman-Users wrote: I don't understand what the problem is, but following instructions I can find anywhere on the web leave me with a setup that simply doesn't work. Understanding the problems, or at least describing them here, would go a long way.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Server Migration

On 2/12/2020 6:06 AM, Dennis Putnam wrote: Since we don't have access to change DNS it seems the easiest thing to do is change their hostnames and IP addresses. If there is a better way I am interested. It's not a better-or-worse choice, it's the _only_ choice. If the users are sending to the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Attachment issue in Outlook

On 2/3/2020 5:43 AM, Kapil Dev Sharma wrote: We are using mailman 2.1.29. When sending the mail using Mailman, The email body content is sent as an attachment (ATT1.txt). We face this type of issues only in outlook. Could you please suggest us the solution for the same. The best solution

Re: [Mailman-Users] Cron job to reset member bounce value

On 12/17/2019 10:24 AM, Ethan Rudnitsky wrote: the issue with the server/MTA bring offline is a known and unavoidable issue because of lack of satellite availability overhead for most of the day unfortunately. That is an entirely avoidable issue. When a destination MTA is offline/busy

Re: [Mailman-Users] Cron job to reset member bounce value

On 12/17/2019 9:45 AM, Ethan Rudnitsky wrote: So there are actually 2 issues causing bounces here... the first is the mailbox being offline at times, and the second is that it is getting messages bounced because of message size being over the limit. Sounds like the -server- (aka 'MTA') is

Re: [Mailman-Users] Cron job to reset member bounce value

On 12/16/2019 9:55 AM, Ethan Rudnitsky wrote: Can anyone tell me where the actual member bounce value is stored? I want to setup a cron job to reset the member bounce value to 0 for certain members whose mailboxes are only active when they have a satellite overhead to give them internet

Re: [Mailman-Users] Best way to slow down all the spam to my lists?

On 12/13/2019 10:17 AM, Richard Damon wrote: To discard so you don't get the messages (don't set it to reject or you will be backscattering). It does say that you won't see messages that should go to the list but the send used the wrong account. That's another good/final option, drop

Re: [Mailman-Users] Best way to slow down all the spam to my lists?

On 12/12/2019 9:46 AM, Chromatest J. Pantsmaker wrote: I'm the system admin (though I'm not great at it). I have a problem with spam. Hundreds of spam messages are posted to my lists each week. (What's a acceptable level? I wouldn't spend many hours just to eliminate 3 spams a day.) Is

Re: [Mailman-Users] [ext] Re: mailman not functional

On 10/18/2019 12:42 AM, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: I am sort of suspecting postfix as /var/log/maillog is not being written to. That's bad. So try stopping and starting postfix (after stopping check with "ps auxwww|fgrep post" to see if there's anything left!!!) and have a look at

Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages delivered out of order and delayed

On 9/13/2019 9:50 AM, Veronica Morris wrote: How do I see mail logs? You need to talk with Dreamhost to get them, but they should be able to assist with the problem. Have you called them? Later, z! -- Mailman-Users mailing list

Re: [Mailman-Users] Finding list user in redacted FBL reports

On 8/7/2019 6:23 PM, David Gibbs via Mailman-Users wrote: On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 8:18 PM David Josephson wrote: Wouldn't it be simple enough just to use rot13, or the senders name without the domain? The first thing they redact is the users name. That's if they edit (or send) the footer

Re: [Mailman-Users] Finding list user in redacted FBL reports

u...@domain.org http://listsmgt.DOMAIN.org/mailman/listinfo/UUU Sent to Carl Zwanzig at zb...@sonic.net All posts to the UUU mailing list are copyright the individual senders. === z! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https

Re: [Mailman-Users] Is there a way to see the original email contents?

On 7/19/2019 6:13 PM, Steven Owens wrote: The received email is lacking a bunch of included text. It's unclear if this is user error, or some quirk of the email client or system (I believe yahoo email done via phone app), or if Mailman somehow automatically clipped it out. I don't think

Re: [Mailman-Users] English (USA)

On 7/8/2019 1:51 PM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote: I just keep getting reminded that we specifically support USA English and we offer no other English language support. I'm not clear on what other English needs support. (This kind of seems like a solution in search of a problem.)

Re: [Mailman-Users] Maximum attachment size

On 6/6/2019 4:58 PM, Bryan Blackwell wrote: This setup handles other attachments pretty well, just this particular person posts much larger files. Below is the log entry, it looks like an out of memory condition. Perhaps I need to tune python itself? This really sounds like a "too many errors

Re: [Mailman-Users] Migrated Mailman to another server

On 5/31/2019 11:34 AM, Ryan McClung wrote: Close this. I figured it out. What was the problem? z! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ:

Re: [Mailman-Users] Now that Python 2 is dead in 2020 what are people's plans with mailman2?

On 4/10/2019 11:36 AM, Dimitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users wrote: With a properly sandboxed application your security vulnerability has to be a) exploitable through that application and b) able to break out of the sandbox and wreak havoc to your host system. Exactly. (That said, given the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Now that Python 2 is dead in 2020 what are people's plans with mailman2?

On 4/10/2019 8:36 AM, Matthew Goebel wrote: Now that all support for Python 2 is supposed to go away in 2020 are people going to move off of mailman 2? I've been looking at mailman 3 and finding it hard to grok after using mailman 2 for many years. I haven't seen a discussion about this so

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam / Email Spoofing Problem (SPF check possible?)

On 4/5/2019 10:59 AM, Valentin Schwarze via Mailman-Users wrote: We happend to have some spam issues on our mailman lists. These spammers were able to send emails on our lists through mail spoofing (only faking the From: field in the header is sufficient to get accepted). Do you have any

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problems sending to prodigy.net mail server addresses

On 2/11/2019 1:21 PM, Joseph Brennan wrote: The DNS records look perfect to me. If you're going through a time warp to Prodigy maybe the new top-levels like .place don't work yet? You get the error after MAIL FROM because that's the earliest point when a server is allow Prodigy isn't the only

Re: [Mailman-Users] Automatic subscription based on e-mail subject

To analogize the entire thread- Mailman is a high quality precision-ground Phillips screwdriver, but it does not work on square-drive (Robertson) screws nor open paint cans. The OP is asking that it be modified so that it does; the developers and other users are discussing why this is not a

Re: [Mailman-Users] help setting up mailman

Hello, On 9/18/2018 5:47 AM, Matthew Draft wrote: I'm new to mailman and could use some advise as far as setting up a new listserv. Do I need to rent server space to hold the list data? It depends You can hire a setup from some ISPs which are ready to go, otherwise, you need a system to

Re: [Mailman-Users] Is there a way to determine which lists are defunct?

On 7/12/2018 5:43 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Or you could see for a withlist script that can display the last post time for all lists. Of course Mark has a script to do this :). z! -- Mailman-Users

Re: [Mailman-Users] Is there a way to determine which lists are defunct?

On 7/12/2018 3:08 PM, Steven Jones wrote: Is there a way to determine which lists are defunct? Depends on how you define "defunct". No members subscribed? All members set "no-mail"? No messages in the last year? (You'd need the archive to look at that.) If the lists are archived, the last is

Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgradeability of 2.1.* releases?

On 6/6/2018 7:54 AM, Matěj Cepl wrote: Where could I find how smooth is the upgrade between different 2.1.* releases? Are there any tools for the conversion of the configuration, if it is not completely automagical? Generally, if you're upgrading via source (instead of some distro's package),

Re: [Mailman-Users] How do I run 2.x mailman more securely?

I'm sure Mark has more complete answers, but diving in anyways :) On 5/30/2018 2:36 PM, Parker, Michael D. wrote: I've been assigned the task of attempting to secure our current implementation of GNU MailMan. You're probably better off changing to MM3, but if you have to stay with v2-- What

Re: [Mailman-Users] Brute force attacks on mailman web ui

On 4/17/2018 7:20 AM, Rich Kulawiec wrote: I stood up a new server last fall with *no* valid ssh access and logged about 750,000 attempts in a month. Similar patterns. There's a reason I don't put sshd on port 22; moving it elsewhere and blackhole-ing 22 cut the auth log tremendously.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Newbie User

On 3/27/2018 9:52 AM, Christian F Buser via Mailman-Users wrote: Hello David Elliott. On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 10:51:40 +0200, you wrote: One of the recipients recently did a 'reply to all' and consequently sent his reply to the whole mailing list. I'm sure there must be a way to prevent this but I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approving often fails and displays wrong page

On 3/10/2018 11:58 PM, Peter Shute wrote: We’ve found recently that more often than not when we approve a message from its details view, after we click Submit, it goes to another page that’s not part of mailman. It goes to the root of our cpanel, ie same url minus the/mailman/... part, but

Re: [Mailman-Users] Accept vs Approve wording on moderator pages

(This based on my understanding of modern English usage in the USA. YMMV) On 3/2/2018 11:03 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: but that leaves an inconsistency on the summary page itself with (un)subs being "Approved" and messages being "Accepted". That's not necessarily inconsistent. A subscription would

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman would not start after upgrade to 2.1.26

On 2/13/2018 12:29 PM, Keith Seyffarth wrote: If you're installing from ports, whether building from within the ports tree or using a port management tool like portupgrade or portmaster, you are installing from source. ...installing using the source code of whatever version the port is

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman would not start after upgrade to 2.1.26

On 2/13/2018 10:25 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: This would seem to be an issue with FreeBSD ports. You should report this to whoever is responsible for that FWIW, while I like FreeBSD's ports & packages, I've found that installing mailman from the source generally is more reliable and updating is

Re: [Mailman-Users] Users set to digest, but still getting non-digest?

On 1/29/2018 8:33 AM, Andrew White, PhD wrote: Searched the archives, but I'm hitting a wall. I have users who are set to digest (when I look at their profile I can see that they are), but still are getting individual list emails, and not getting digest at all. Any hints on

Re: [Mailman-Users] Photos from Macs getting removed by list server

On 1/21/2018 12:13 AM, Peter Shute wrote: We’re finding that messages sent to our list by Mac users are having jpg attachments removed. I assume this is something to do with the list being plain text only... If the list is plain-text only, I'd be more curious how images were making their

Re: [Mailman-Users] Removing archived spam

On 11/13/2017 4:03 PM, eminmn wrote: Anyway, I think there are a few million people around the world who are aware of his contribution to freedom of computation And his anti-contributions? Anyway, since this is rather far removed from mailman v2, can we give it a rest. z!

Re: [Mailman-Users] 2.1 installation instructions

On 10/3/2017 4:41 AM, Ruben Safir wrote: I am porting my mailman config to a new system using openrc and, if it is possible, I would like to be pointed to installation and configuration instructions for mailman 2.1.24 and postfix A good place to start is the ./doc/ directory of mailman source

Re: [Mailman-Users] bulk subscribe 7K users

On 10/2/2017 12:37 PM, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: Could you point me at The Fine Manual for mailman where it says how many addresses I can subscribe through the web interface? I can't (and as Mark mentioned, it's installation-dependent), but it would be helpful to others if you would add something

Re: [Mailman-Users] bulk subscribe 7K users

On 10/2/2017 7:58 AM, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: PS there is nothing except postfix, spamd, mailman, and apache serving mailman's interface running on this server. It' running at load avg of 0.0 on 24 cores in 128GB of RAM. AFAICT the only reason for the software to croak on the list that size is

Re: [Mailman-Users] bulk subscribe 7K users

On 9/29/2017 11:34 AM, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: (mailman 2.1.12 on centos 6.9) I don't think that Mark mentioned it, but 2.1.12 is -painfully- old (as is centos 6.9) and centos packages often lag way behind the corresponding source versions. If you need to stick with 6.9, I would consider

Re: [Mailman-Users] Second Name

On 7/23/2017 5:09 PM, David Andrews wrote: One of my users has requested a list -- let's call it li...@example.org. He wants a second name for this list -- li...@example.org He says he heard Mailman can do this. I have experimented a little, but can't see how. You can sort of get that by

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