Re: [Mailman-Users] non-subscribers getting through--email address in "Real Name"

BTW I'm kind of flummoxed that in Mark's mail he sees the j...@johngreenwaltlee.com address, because that's exactly what I deleted and replaced with the obfuscated "xxxjohnxxx.com." In what I wrote, that real email address *did not appear*. !@#$% gmail. On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 6:5

Re: [Mailman-Users] non-subscribers getting through--email address in "Real Name"

Thanks, everyone, for the thoughtful comments on my tiny little spam problem! I've returned from my day job and will look at Mark's diagnosis suggestions. Best, Matt On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 6:43 PM, John Levine wrote: > In article <1ca714d0-da89-aa23-d247-4faa2133b...@msapiro.net> you write: >

[Mailman-Users] non-subscribers getting through--email address in "Real Name"

On one of my lists I'm seeing some spam from non-subscribers getting through. It appears that the trick is to put a subscriber's address in the "real name" of the sender. E.g., this got through, without being held for moderation, on a list with generic_nonmember_action = discard (emails of the

Re: [Mailman-Users] diagnosing messages missing from archives

On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 6:07 PM, Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net> wrote: > On 05/15/2017 01:41 PM, Matt Morgan wrote: > > > > > > It's a customized Slack (which I'm not familiar with in the first > > place). Init scripts are in /etc/rc.d and /etc/rc.d/rc.mailman h

Re: [Mailman-Users] diagnosing messages missing from archives

On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net> wrote: > On 05/11/2017 09:00 AM, Matt Morgan wrote: > > On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 12:58 PM, Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net> wrote: > >> > >> In Mailman's directory (/usr/local/mailman in your case)

Re: [Mailman-Users] list sponsorships

On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Steve Burling <s...@umich.edu> wrote: > On 15 May 2017, at 10:29, Matt Morgan wrote: > > Has anybody experimented with (or succeeded with) any form of mailman list >> sponsorship? A nonprofit professional assocation I work for asked m

Re: [Mailman-Users] list sponsorships

the list, by allowing sponsorship by for profit members of the community who benefit from it. It's not unlike corporate support of FOSS, for example. > On 5/15/2017 1:53 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> On 05/15/2017 07:29 AM, Matt Morgan wrote: >> >>> Has anybody experim

Re: [Mailman-Users] list sponsorships

On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 1:53 PM, Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net> wrote: > On 05/15/2017 07:29 AM, Matt Morgan wrote: > > Has anybody experimented with (or succeeded with) any form of mailman > list > > sponsorship? A nonprofit professional assocation I work for asked

[Mailman-Users] list sponsorships

Has anybody experimented with (or succeeded with) any form of mailman list sponsorship? A nonprofit professional assocation I work for asked me for advice about it. If there are current examples I'd be curious to see them. Thanks, Matt --

Re: [Mailman-Users] diagnosing messages missing from archives

On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 12:58 PM, Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net> wrote: > On 05/09/2017 07:54 AM, Matt Morgan wrote: > > > > I do see this in the error log: > > > > Apr 27 20:58:43 2017 (517) Uncaught runner exception: 'ascii' codec can't > > decode

[Mailman-Users] diagnosing messages missing from archives

I'm working on a complaint about messages being delivered, but not getting into a private mailman archives. I found a discussion about diagnosing it, from a few years ago, here: http://grokbase.com/t/python/mailman-users/093t4rv1zv/some-messages-missing-from-archive This is on a very low

Re: [Mailman-Users] lacking notifications when mails are held for moderation

On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 4:16 AM, Christina Endemann wrote: > At least I don't have easy access to the logs, so I tested the > listname-owner@... address first, and in fact the mails could not be > delivered. > I got some "Diagnostic information for administrators" (Remote

Re: [Mailman-Users] messages discarded after approval

On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 7:49 PM, Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net> wrote: > On 02/07/2017 02:04 PM, Matt Morgan wrote: > > > > Here are some lines from the vette log that seem to show exactly what he > > reports (I've anonymized the sender address, but it matches the poste

[Mailman-Users] messages discarded after approval

One of my moderators said he had messages from a particular poster disappear after approval, and never appear on the list. Here are some lines from the vette log that seem to show exactly what he reports (I've anonymized the sender address, but it matches the poster he mentioned). What's going on

[Mailman-Users] a way for mods to review rejection messages?

Is there a way for non-shell users to review rejection messages they've sent to posters? I have a request from a mod. For whatever reasons (spam filters, inattentiveness) some posters don't see his rejection messages, and then ask much later what happened to their posts. By that time, he has

[Mailman-Users] from_is_list Wrap Message: what does that look like?

If I use from_is_list "Wrap Message," what will users see? The help page says "This is effectively a one message MIME format digest." Does that mean that the original message is going to show up as an attachment in some mail readers? What about in Digests? I have to imagine that wrapping is

Re: [Mailman-Users] Can't get into list's admin pages after using withlist

On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 7:50 PM, Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net> wrote: > On 01/05/2017 04:24 PM, Matt Morgan wrote: > > > > I tried it on a test list first, and it was fine; but after using it on > > this other list, I can't get into that list's admin pages. It's possi

Re: [Mailman-Users] Can't get into list's admin pages after using withlist

On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 7:24 PM, Matt Morgan <minxmertzm...@gmail.com> wrote: > I tried to reset the digest volume & issue numbers on one of my lists > using withlist, following these very old instructions: > > https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2000-August/0

[Mailman-Users] Can't get into list's admin pages after using withlist

I tried to reset the digest volume & issue numbers on one of my lists using withlist, following these very old instructions: https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2000-August/006218.html I tried it on a test list first, and it was fine; but after using it on this other list, I can't

Re: [Mailman-Users] Configure options not known

, Dec 22, 2016 at 12:54 AM, Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net> wrote: > On 12/21/2016 07:14 PM, Matt Morgan wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 10:02 PM, Matt Morgan <minxmertzm...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> Unfortunately, local delivery is failing for a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Configure options not known

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 10:02 PM, Matt Morgan <minxmertzm...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 6:41 PM, Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net> wrote: > >> On 12/09/2016 02:27 PM, Matt Morgan wrote: >> > >> > Thanks. --prefix is the standard, but there's

Re: [Mailman-Users] Configure options not known

On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 6:41 PM, Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net> wrote: > On 12/09/2016 02:27 PM, Matt Morgan wrote: > > > > Thanks. --prefix is the standard, but there's nothing in /var apart from > > mailman's crontab. What's an example of a file that I could 'loc

Re: [Mailman-Users] Configure options not known

On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 1:45 PM, Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net> wrote: > On 12/06/2016 09:21 AM, Matt Morgan wrote: > > > > run 'configure' with the same options you used in your previous install > > > > I don't know, nor does anyone else at this org, what

[Mailman-Users] Configure options not known

I'm working on upgrading this old (2.1.12) mailman installation so I can start addressing DKIM (etc.) related problems with delivery. I've downloaded 2.1.23. To make sure I was in good shape, I ran configure and make (not 'make install'). They both worked after I installed dnspython. However,

[Mailman-Users] DMARC-related bounces due to AOL sender; from_is_list or anonymous_list?

On one of our lists, we are recently getting a lot of bounces related to AOL's DMARC policy. We're probably getting them on all our lists, actually, it's just that this list had a pretty stiff bounce-disabling config, so we noticed it more there. I understand that my choices for fixing this are

[Mailman-Users] deleting an accidentally accepted spam posting

When moderating posts, I forwarded several to myself all at once, saw they were fine, then went back and "accepted" them all at once. Just as I clicked Submit, I saw that one was a new message I hadn't reviewed, and it looked like spam. Too late; I clicked Submit. Fortunately, this list is 100%

[Mailman-Users] suppress the "an html attachment was scrubbed" message in digests

Can I suppress the -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -- bit that's showing up in my digests? Or can I do

Re: [Mailman-Users] illegible message in moderation approval queue

On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 2:34 AM, Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net> wrote: > On 09/22/2016 06:58 PM, Matt Morgan wrote: > > I have a message in a moderation queue. It's from a member (everyone is > > moderated on this list) so I think it's not spam or other junk. But when &g

[Mailman-Users] illegible message in moderation approval queue

I have a message in a moderation queue. It's from a member (everyone is moderated on this list) so I think it's not spam or other junk. But when I click to review it, it's not legible. This is all I see in the message excerpt: IENvbnNkaXNsaXN0DQoNCrOqwMcgaVBob25lv6G8rSC6uLO/ I feel like I've

Re: [Mailman-Users] subscribe users by email from list admin?

On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net> wrote: > On 09/15/2016 07:32 AM, Matt Morgan wrote: > > > > At risk of beating a dead horse: now I understand actually I didn't see > > that text. I read the users and admin guides in the online docs, a

Re: [Mailman-Users] subscribe users by email from list admin?

On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Matt Morgan <minxmertzm...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net> wrote: > >> On 09/14/2016 11:09 AM, Matt Morgan wrote: >> > Is there any way, in mailman, to subscribe a user (or

Re: [Mailman-Users] subscribe users by email from list admin?

On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net> wrote: > On 09/14/2016 11:09 AM, Matt Morgan wrote: > > Is there any way, in mailman, to subscribe a user (or users) via an email > > from an email address other than the one being signed up? > > >

[Mailman-Users] subscribe users by email from list admin?

Is there any way, in mailman, to subscribe a user (or users) via an email from an email address other than the one being signed up? E.g., I imagine a simple online form, including an email entry field, that fires off an email upon successful submission, that subscribes that user to a list. But I

[Mailman-Users] Too many digests, at unexpected times

I'm trying to set up a list that's going to go out only as digests, once a week. The list is called "consdistlist." Right now I just have three subscribers, all different email addresses belonging to me. I have applied Mark Sapiro's recent patch that allows the -e option (aka --exceptlist) on

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest formatting--clickable TOC?

On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 4:32 AM, Lucio Chiappetti <lu...@lambrate.inaf.it> wrote: > On Fri, 2 Sep 2016, Matt Morgan wrote: > > The eventual publication looks a lot like a mailman digest, and that's >> what I'm switching it to. >> > > I see that over the weeken

Re: [Mailman-Users] digest frequency control

On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net> wrote: > On 09/02/2016 08:59 AM, Matt Morgan wrote: > > I think I understand this but I'm hoping someone can help confirm I got > it > > right. > > > ... > > > > Do I hav

[Mailman-Users] Digest formatting--clickable TOC?

One of the lists I'm now running uses Mailman as an aid to generating a periodical email publication. People send in items for topics, and an editor grafts them into a single large message that goes out about twice a month. The eventual publication looks a lot like a mailman digest, and that's

[Mailman-Users] digest frequency control

I think I understand this but I'm hoping someone can help confirm I got it right. 1. In the regular digest options, directly controlling the frequency with which a digest gets sent out isn't possible. It can sort of be hacked, though, by turning off digest_send_periodic and turning on

Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscriptions due to automatic bounce processing

On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net> wrote: > On 08/25/2016 12:28 PM, Matt Morgan wrote: > > > > I decided to set it up to clean out the cruft fast, and then I'd temper > it > > back a little. So I set it up like this:

[Mailman-Users] unsubscriptions due to automatic bounce processing

I recently took over a lot of pre-existing mailman lists for a new client. At least one list was pretty messy. They had automatic bounce processing turned on, but the threshold was high, and reset time was shorter than the typical length of times between postings (it's an announce-only list that

Re: [Mailman-Users] corporate spam filter operation

On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 11:27 PM, Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/21/08, Matt Morgan wrote: Are there corporate, enterprise spam-killing services that work on a user-by-user basis, rather than a message-by-message basis? For example, where the same message, sent to a few

[Mailman-Users] corporate spam filter operation

This question is a little off-topic. Are there corporate, enterprise spam-killing services that work on a user-by-user basis, rather than a message-by-message basis? For example, where the same message, sent to a few different people, might be rejected as spam for one recipient but not others?

Re: [Mailman-Users] Ongoing delivery issues - First Yahoo, now AOL

On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick Harris wrote: I posted a couple of weeks ago regarding mail not being delivered to Yahoo addresses. I've all but written that off as an Internet black hole. Messages from my list almost never make it to Yahoo

Re: [Mailman-Users] any way to batch unsubscribe notifications?

On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 10:09 PM, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt Morgan wrote: The only problem is that a lot of their addresses are collected manually, so there can be a lot of failures. Mailman sends these one at a time, i.e. one unsubscribed address per notification message

[Mailman-Users] any way to batch unsubscribe notifications?

I'm working for a friend who asked me to set up mailman (2.1.9 on Fedora Core 7) to replace a home-grown list server for one of his clients. It's a small non-profit that has a little web-based membership admin tool. For various reasons, they update the mailman list with an export from the