Re: [Mailman-Users] Avoiding mangling in Mailman 3?

2019-12-11 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Allan Hansen writes: > [ABH] The “From:” should contain the author address, but if we want to > keep our Yahoo/AOL subscribers… Exactly. This is what we economists call the Theorem of the Second Best: When it's already broken, sometimes the best you can do is to break it harder. > [ABH]

Re: [Mailman-Users] Avoiding mangling in Mailman 3?

2019-12-11 Thread Allan Hansen
On Dec 10, 2019, at 10:27 , Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > Allan Hansen writes: > >> But Apple Mail puts the mangled address To: into the ‘Previous >> Recipients’ list to help with auto-completion later. > > I assume by "To" you mean "From”. [ABH] Yes, sorry. It takes the “From:” address

Re: [Mailman-Users] Avoiding mangling in Mailman 3?

2019-12-10 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Allan Hansen writes: > But Apple Mail puts the mangled address To: into the ‘Previous > Recipients’ list to help with auto-completion later. I assume by "To" you mean "From". We don't munge "To" in this situation (there is a personalized list configuration where To is changed from the list to

Re: [Mailman-Users] Avoiding mangling in Mailman 3?

2019-12-09 Thread Dan Halbert
This is exactly the problem I mentioned a few weeks earlier that did not elicit much of a response. I asked for some way to change the "via" string and there wasn't one. I have to remind people periodically to remove any "via" entries from their address books. AOL/Yahoo/Verizon cause other

Re: [Mailman-Users] Avoiding mangling in Mailman 3?

2019-12-09 Thread Allan Hansen
Hi Stephen, Thank you a bunch for looking into this. I was trying to say that ReplyTo: works fine, for just the reasons you mention. No problem there. At first. ;-) But Apple Mail puts the mangled address To: into the ‘Previous Recipients’ list to help with auto-completion later. Here are the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Avoiding mangling in Mailman 3?

2019-12-08 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mark Sapiro writes: > Actually, that's still not quite correct. Ours looks like > > "xxx via list" Thank you for the correction. I wonder whether users would behave differently if we used "list on behalf of xxx" instead of "xxx via list"? > I suspect this latter is due to what Allan

Re: [Mailman-Users] Avoiding mangling in Mailman 3?

2019-12-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 12/8/19 8:17 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > That's not our mangling, it's your client's. Ours would look like > this: > > "Allan Hansen (han...@rc.org) via list" Actually, that's still not quite correct. Ours looks like "xxx via list" where xxx is if original From contains a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Avoiding mangling in Mailman 3?

2019-12-08 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Allan Hansen writes: > I have set the ReplyTo: as the author, it’s not the immediate > replying as such that is an issue, and the mangled string is > factually correct. The issue comes when Apple Mail does > auto-completion and hides the email address. > > A mangled From: address like

Re: [Mailman-Users] Avoiding mangling in Mailman 3?

2019-12-07 Thread Allan Hansen
Stephen et al., You’re right that using links instead of a Reply function is unattractive and not how email is supposed to work. On the other hand, the same surely goes for the To: mangling: I have set the ReplyTo: as the author, it’s not the immediate replying as such that is an issue, and

[Mailman-Users] Avoiding mangling in Mailman 3?

2019-12-07 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Allan Hansen writes: > 1. Replace the From: address with a no-reply address on the list >server. Don’t add the sender’s address in quotes. I believe this requires a change in the Mailman code. I guess you want the author's display name, if available, there? What if there is no display

Re: [Mailman-Users] Avoiding mangling in Mailman 3?

2019-12-07 Thread Brian Carpenter
Hi Allan, I have successfully installed Mailman 3 on 4 servers now. Please contact me off list if you are interested in my installation service. Thanks, Brian Carpenter > On Dec 7, 2019, at 12:17 AM, Allan Hansen wrote: > > All, > > One of my main gripes is the From: mangling that we had

[Mailman-Users] Avoiding mangling in Mailman 3?

2019-12-06 Thread Allan Hansen
All, One of my main gripes is the From: mangling that we had to use to allow AOL and Yahoo subscribers to send messages without messing everyone else up. I have now been informed that Mailman 3 does not solve this problem, but I’d like to move to Mailman 3 anyway. So what to do? How about