[Mailman-Users] subscription flood, redux

2021-07-29 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Karl Berry writes: I'm surprised Mark hasn't chimed in, maybe he's out on a boat catching salmon. Don't know when he'll be back, so here's what little I can say. > 1) The above mailman-users thread refers to using fail2ban. The set in

[Mailman-Users] subscription flood, redux

2021-07-28 Thread Karl Berry
I was just hit with a subscription flood, along the lines of https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2014-May/076880.html https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/1082746 I've mitigated the current attack, but it's happened before and will happen again. I'm already using

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscription flood

2014-05-14 Thread Bill Christensen
Thanks. Running the patch I got: patching file /path/to/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/subscribe.py patch unexpectedly ends in middle of line Hunk #1 succeeded at 53 with fuzz 1 (offset -1 lines). (with the actual path in there) When trying to run a subscription I got the We hit a bug error. Error log

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscription flood

2014-05-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 05/14/2014 08:20 AM, Bill Christensen wrote: Thanks. Running the patch I got: patching file /path/to/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/subscribe.py patch unexpectedly ends in middle of line Hunk #1 succeeded at 53 with fuzz 1 (offset -1 lines). (with the actual path in there) The patch got

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscription flood

2014-05-14 Thread Bill Christensen
On 5/14/14 10:35 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Sorry, that's my mistake. It should be if listname == 'problem_list': i.e., ==, not =. Comparing subscribe.py with subscribe.py.bak, it appears that it's in there as written. I was wondering about that. Thanks. Now the problem_list is disallowed from

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscription flood

2014-05-14 Thread Jan Steinman
I've got a problem with one of my lists where it's being flooded with spurious subscription requests... from the same address... Perhaps obvious, and perhaps in the FAQ Mark linked, but this sounds like a job for ipfw to me. I regularly get spambot subscription requests, and they go right in

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscription flood

2014-05-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 05/14/2014 10:42 AM, Bill Christensen wrote: The problem_list gets we hit a bug, but since I've taken the subscription form off the listinfo page the only ones who will get that are the spammers. It shouldn't get that. There is still something wrong with the patch or its application. If

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscription flood

2014-05-14 Thread Bill Christensen
Here you go: admin(38814): [- Traceback --] admin(38814): Traceback (most recent call last): admin(38814): File /opt/local/share/mailman/ scripts/driver, line 112, in run_main admin(38814): main() admin(38814): File /opt/local/share/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/subscribe.py, line 63, in

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscription flood

2014-05-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 05/14/2014 07:58 PM, Bill Christensen wrote: Here you go: admin(38814): [- Traceback --] admin(38814): Traceback (most recent call last): admin(38814): File /opt/local/share/mailman/ scripts/driver, line 112, in run_main admin(38814): main() admin(38814): File

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscription flood

2014-05-14 Thread Bill Christensen
That did the trick. Thanks again. On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 11:39 PM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: On 05/14/2014 07:58 PM, Bill Christensen wrote: Here you go: admin(38814): [- Traceback --] admin(38814): Traceback (most recent call last): admin(38814): File

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscription flood

2014-05-13 Thread Bill Christensen
I finally got a chance to look over the logs today; this is a widely distributed attack, so address blocking is probably futile. Sorry to be dense, but how do I apply that patch? Thanks On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: On 05/09/2014 12:12 PM, Bill

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscription flood

2014-05-13 Thread Robert Heller
At Tue, 13 May 2014 14:54:26 -0500 Bill Christensen billc_li...@greenbuilder.com wrote: I finally got a chance to look over the logs today; this is a widely distributed attack, so address blocking is probably futile. How widely? It *could* be a /16 subnet (eg distributed over 2^^16

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscription flood

2014-05-13 Thread Bill Christensen
Very wide. Vietnam, China, New York, France just at a quick look. I'm looking into fail2ban now. Thanks to those of you who have mentioned it. On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Robert Heller hel...@deepsoft.com wrote: At Tue, 13 May 2014 14:54:26 -0500 Bill Christensen

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscription flood

2014-05-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 05/13/2014 12:54 PM, Bill Christensen wrote: Sorry to be dense, but how do I apply that patch? 1)Save the patch to a file. 2)Edit the file with an editor that won't change indentation or wrap or fill lines, i.e. a text editor, not a word processor, and change problem_list in the line +

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscription flood

2014-05-09 Thread Bill Christensen
On 5/8/14 12:02 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 05/08/2014 09:31 AM, Bill Christensen wrote: Question 1: Is it possible to reverse the order of approval and confirmation when requiring both? The admin then can reject all those with duplicates, only allowing the (presumably real) single subscription

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscription flood

2014-05-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 05/09/2014 10:46 AM, Bill Christensen wrote: I temporarily removed the signup form from the listinfo page in hopes of stemming the tide, and replaced it with a request to use the site's contact form so that we can manually add interested subscribers. I purposely don't have a subscribe

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscription flood

2014-05-09 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mark Sapiro writes: They probably aren't using the subscribe form on the listinfo page but rather posting the data directly to the subscribe CGI. Try moving mailman's cgi-bin/subscribe aside to totally disable web subscribe. Yeah, this seems like a different attack from the last one I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscription flood

2014-05-09 Thread Bill Christensen
On 5/9/14 1:25 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 05/09/2014 10:46 AM, Bill Christensen wrote: I temporarily removed the signup form from the listinfo page in hopes of stemming the tide, and replaced it with a request to use the site's contact form so that we can manually add interested subscribers. I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscription flood

2014-05-09 Thread Robert Heller
At Fri, 09 May 2014 14:12:57 -0500 Bill Christensen billc_li...@greenbuilder.com wrote: On 5/9/14 1:25 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 05/09/2014 10:46 AM, Bill Christensen wrote: I temporarily removed the signup form from the listinfo page in hopes of stemming the tide, and replaced it with

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscription flood

2014-05-09 Thread Robert Heller
At Fri, 09 May 2014 12:46:42 -0500 Bill Christensen billc_li...@greenbuilder.com wrote: On 5/8/14 12:02 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 05/08/2014 09:31 AM, Bill Christensen wrote: Question 1: Is it possible to reverse the order of approval and confirmation when requiring both? The admin

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscription flood

2014-05-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 05/09/2014 12:12 PM, Bill Christensen wrote: Is there a way that I can just have it affect this one problematic list? If I change the name of cgi-bin/subscribe and any references to it (at least until the next update), do you think that will make a difference? It seems to me the

[Mailman-Users] Subscription flood

2014-05-08 Thread Bill Christensen
Hi all, I've got a problem with one of my lists where it's being flooded with spurious subscription requests. The list was set to require subscription confirmation; the innocent victims whose addresses were used for the subscription requests started complaining, as they'd get anywhere from

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscription flood

2014-05-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 05/08/2014 09:31 AM, Bill Christensen wrote: Question 1: Is it possible to reverse the order of approval and confirmation when requiring both? The admin then can reject all those with duplicates, only allowing the (presumably real) single subscription requests to send out a confirmation

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscription flood

2014-05-08 Thread Adam McGreggor
On Thu, May 08, 2014 at 11:31:14AM -0500, Bill Christensen wrote: I've got a problem with one of my lists where it's being flooded with spurious subscription requests. […] About 12 hrs ago I switched it to require Admin approval. 500+ subscription requests - mostly in batches of 5-10 from