[Mailman-Users] Re: Python 2.7.15, etc, vs Python3...

On 7/17/23 17:24, rich...@karmannghia.org wrote: Inching forward here folks, trying to get Mailman 2.1.39 going. I get to the point it calls Python and it dies with: checking for python... /usr/local/bin/python checking Python interpreter... configure: error: * No Python interpreter

[Mailman-Users] Re: Python 2.7.15, etc, vs Python3...

On 7/17/23 7:24 PM, rich...@karmannghia.org wrote: OTOH, can Python3 (what's there now) be THAT backwards incompatible?! How incompatible are AM & FM radio? How incompatible are IPv4 and IPv6? How incompatible are gasoline and Diesel motors? SURELY I can make it happy somehow, right? As

[Mailman-Users] Re: Where's the installation directions / source, etc, please?

On 7/17/23 10:54, rich...@karmannghia.org wrote: I used to use plain-ole mailman, WAY back in the '90s, BEFORE mailman2 and LONG before mailman3... And I sure wish mailman2 had been done by people who had a sense for the challenges for normal non-developer system managers to deal with the

[Mailman-Users] Re: Oops, key typo! ... Re: Where's the installation directions / source, etc, please?

On Mon, 17 Jul 2023, Mark Sapiro wrote: And see my reply to your post at -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your

[Mailman-Users] Signature issue - was Re: Re: Where's the installation directions / source, etc, please?

I'm trying to install 2.1.39 now, but am having an issue with verifying the tarball. I downloaded from: https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/mailman/ ...these files: mailman-2.1.39.tgz mailman-2.1.39.tgz.sig When I execute the appropriate command: $ gpg --verify mailman-2.1.39.tgz.sig

[Mailman-Users] Re: Python 2.7.15, etc, vs Python3...

At Mon, 17 Jul 2023 17:24:15 -0700 (PDT) rich...@karmannghia.org wrote: > > > Inching forward here folks, trying to get Mailman 2.1.39 going. > > I get to the point it calls Python and it dies with: > > checking for python... /usr/local/bin/python > checking Python interpreter... configure:

[Mailman-Users] Re: Python 2.7.15, etc, vs Python3...

On 7/17/2023 5:54 PM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote: Python 2 and Python 3 are enough different to effectively be different languages. BTW, there is a python2 to 3 converter, however -I- don't know how successful that would be and I've done multiple language conversions over time

[Mailman-Users] Re: Where's the installation directions / source, etc, please?

On 2023-07-17 4:36 PM, Steven Jones wrote: Hi, I feel the same way, hence still running Mailman2 (on RHEL8). It is simple and low CPU hit, however Red Hat stops it support in May 2024. Containers are really useful where done well but I tried 2 or times to get mailman3 going on RHEL9 with

[Mailman-Users] Re: Signature issue - was Re: Re: Where's the installation directions / source, etc, please?

On 7/17/23 16:22, rich...@karmannghia.org wrote: I'm trying to install 2.1.39 now, but am having an issue with verifying the tarball. I downloaded from: https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/mailman/ ...these files: mailman-2.1.39.tgz mailman-2.1.39.tgz.sig When I execute the appropriate command: $

[Mailman-Users] Python 2.7.15, etc, vs Python3...

Inching forward here folks, trying to get Mailman 2.1.39 going. I get to the point it calls Python and it dies with: checking for python... /usr/local/bin/python checking Python interpreter... configure: error: * No Python interpreter found! * Try including the configure option *

[Mailman-Users] Where's the installation directions / source, etc, please?

Hi All, I used to use plain-ole mailman, WAY back in the '90s, BEFORE mailman2 and LONG before mailman3... And I sure wish mailman2 had been done by people who had a sense for the challenges for normal non-developer system managers to deal with the software they actually developed. I'm sure

[Mailman-Users] Signature issue - was Re: Re: Where's the installation directions / source, etc, please? (fwd)

NEVERMIND! I figured it out: In this instance, it's: gpg --recv-keys C638CAEF0AC21563736B5A22555B975E953B8693 Sorry to bother anybody! ;-) Richard --- I'm trying to install 2.1.39 now, but am having an issue with verifying the tarball. I downloaded from:

[Mailman-Users] Re: Python 2.7.15, etc, vs Python3...

On 7/17/2023 5:24 PM, rich...@karmannghia.org wrote: Inching forward here folks, trying to get Mailman 2.1.39 going. [...] OTOH, can Python3 (what's there now) be THAT backwards incompatible?! Oh yes it can! In some ways, it's a completely different language (and for that reason, MM2 hasn't

[Mailman-Users] Re: Python 2.7.15, etc, vs Python3...

On 2023-07-17 7:24 PM, rich...@karmannghia.org wrote: P.S. It seems BIZARRE to me that we have the good ole cc and gcc that just work after however many decades Well... they have flags that I think maybe will still let them compile K C. C++, OTOH, is in many respects worse than python, and

[Mailman-Users] Oops, key typo! ... Re: Where's the installation directions / source, etc, please?

Hi, sorry for this typo I made... I implied my complaints are with MailMan 2, and I wasn't thrilled with some changes but it's MM3 that's the headache. I'd be happy to go back to say, how it was in 2019 or something like that. What, v 2.1.28 or some such. I just want to be able to have

[Mailman-Users] Re: moderation queue and member list management weirdness

On 7/17/23 10:39, Hoover Chan wrote: This may or may not help others but I did a ./withlist -l -r fix_url listname followed by restarting mailman and things started to work again. Thanks for the report. -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area,

[Mailman-Users] Re: Where's the installation directions / source, etc, please?

Hi, I feel the same way, hence still running Mailman2 (on RHEL8). It is simple and low CPU hit, however Red Hat stops it support in May 2024. Containers are really useful where done well but I tried 2 or times to get mailman3 going on RHEL9 with podman and even docker and failed. I think

[Mailman-Users] Re: Oops, key typo! ... Re: Where's the installation directions / source, etc, please?

On 7/17/23 11:27, rich...@karmannghia.org wrote: I'd be happy to go back to say, how it was in 2019 or something like that. What, v 2.1.28 or some such. And see my reply to your post at

[Mailman-Users] Re: Python 2.7.15, etc, vs Python3...

On Tue, 2023-07-18 at 02:05 +, Carl Zwanzig wrote: > On 7/17/2023 5:54 PM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote: > > Python 2 and Python 3 are enough different to effectively be > > different languages. > > BTW, there is a python2 to 3 converter,  There's also this project:

[Mailman-Users] Re: moderation queue and member list management weirdness

This may or may not help others but I did a ./withlist -l -r fix_url listname followed by restarting mailman and things started to work again. Thanks for all the pointers.

[Mailman-Users] moderation queue and member list management weirdness

Hoover Chan writes: > A moderated mailing list where I see items in the moderation queue > but nothing happens after I select the actions to be taken (defer, > approve, delete) and then execute. > > For the same list, I can see the first page of the member list but > can't search for

[Mailman-Users] Re: moderation queue and member list management weirdness

re: "nothing happens" When the take action button is clicked, the page pauses as if waiting and after about 30 seconds or so, I'm presented with the moderation queue page again with none of the submitted actions having been done. Thanks for any insights. On Mon, Jul 17, 2023 at 9:14 AM Mark

[Mailman-Users] Re: moderation queue and member list management weirdness

On 7/17/23 09:22, Hoover Chan wrote: re: "nothing happens" When the take action button is clicked, the page pauses as if waiting and after about 30 seconds or so, I'm presented with the moderation queue page again with none of the submitted actions having been done. Thanks for any insights.

[Mailman-Users] Re: moderation queue and member list management weirdness

On 7/15/23 15:41, Hoover Chan wrote: A moderated mailing list where I see items in the moderation queue but nothing happens after I select the actions to be taken (defer, approve, delete) and then execute. For the same list, I can see the first page of the member list but can't search for