to type on the iOS keyboard, so just logging in again isn't an
option. The browser doesn't offer to save the password like with some sites,
not sure why.
I've tried the Mailman Moderator app, but it doesn't let me read messages, or
see more than one item at a time.
Peter Shute
Sent from my
it?
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to deal
with those?
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From: Mailman-Users [mailman-users-bounces+pshute=nuw.org...@python.org] On
Behalf Of Peter Shute [psh...@nuw.org.au]
Sent: Thursday, 9 January 2014 3:42 PM
To: mailman-users@python.org
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I came across this thread about a moderating app written by Manuel Weiel:
http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg60445.html
I can't find it in the App Store. Is it still available somehow?
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Yes, it opens the App Store app (on my ipad), and then displays a blank white
square. I suspect this means the link is no longer valid.
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On 13 Jan 2014, at 9:45 pm, Mailman Admin mailman-ad...@uni-konstanz.de
wrote:
Hello Peter Shute
Am 2014-01-13 02:21, schrieb Peter
app,
still available.
All I really need is a simple web browser for my iPad that will either stay
logged into the moderator site, or can save the password. I've tried several,
but none will do either.
Peter Shute
Sent from my iPad
On 14 Jan 2014, at 2:31 am, Bruce Harrison
harri
I use the moderator web page with Firefox, and it stays logged in for as long
as I keep the browser open. But with Safari on iPhone and iPad, I often have to
log in again when I return to it. Same for every other browser I've tried under
iOS. Can anyone tell me why?
Peter Shute
On 4 Feb 2014, at 12:26 pm, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote:
On 02/03/2014 05:04 PM, Peter Shute wrote:
I use the moderator web page with Firefox, and it stays logged in for as
long as I keep the browser open. But with Safari on iPhone and iPad, I often
have to log in again when I
On 4 Feb 2014, at 1:27 pm, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote:
On 02/03/2014 05:53 PM, Peter Shute wrote:
That makes sense. Is there any way around it? Is it possible to make it use
persistent cookies?
If you're willing to modify the code, see the MakeCookie function in
Mailman
cookies anyway because
it stays logged in if I stay in Safari. I tried never, just in case, but no
improvement.
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visible.
As Mark said, this is an Apple problem, not a mailman problem. but if it has
become a permanent feature of iOS, and if lots of mailman administrators use
iOS, does it become a mailman problem?
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for that web page.
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On 6 Feb 2014, at 1:45 am, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote:
On 02/04/2014 11:30 PM, Peter Shute wrote:
Can anyone tell me why the moderator page won't let me save the password in
any of the iOS browser apps I've tried? None let me enter the URL and
password myself, I have to wait
On 6 Feb 2014, at 5:22 am, Peter Shute psh...@nuw.org.au wrote:
My experience with Firefox mostly on various Linux, Mac and Windows
platforms is that it does not always offer to save passwords,
particularly those from financial institution websites, but it does
always offer to save Mailman
VoIP PBX that only had a
password field without a user name. When a recent upgrade included a user
name field my problems went away.
That's likely to be the reason then, but it doesn't explain why my Firefox does
ask to save the password, without any plugins.
Peter Shute
a mailman password too.
I just tried the Mercury browser, on the grounds that its logo looks a bit like
the Firefox logo, and it too doesn't ask to save it. It must be dependent on an
iOS API.
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they become moderated again when they
resubscribe.
Does mailman keep a record of this stuff?
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delivery when they go on holidays, so
they become moderated again when they resubscribe.
Does mailman keep a record of this stuff?
Peter Shute
To my knowledge, mailman does not keep track of this. I have
the list software send me notices of messages held for
moderation and file them
Messages held for moderation are listed in sender order rather than
chronological order. Can that be changed?
Peter Shute
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Mark Sapiro wrote:
On 02/24/2014 10:20 AM, Peter Shute wrote:
Messages held for moderation are listed in sender order
rather than chronological order. Can that be changed?
Beginning in Mailman 2.1.16, there is a
DISPLAY_HELD_SUMMARY_SORT_BUTTONS setting.
The documentation
.
[*] if the host is really cooperative, they could install the
changes at
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mailman-coders/mailman/2.1/revis
ion/1401
and
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mailman-coders/mailman/2.1/revis
ion/1406
to implement the feature in 2.1.15.
Thanks, I'll make inquiries.
Peter Shute
When this happens to us, we normally either ask the sender to send it again, or
we forward the copy in the moderator alert email ourselves.
Peter Shute
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allow me to save its own password, so a couple of taps get
me back into the page.
Peter Shute
Sent from my iPad
On 6 Feb 2014, at 1:00 pm, Peter Shute psh...@nuw.org.au wrote:
On 6 Feb 2014, at 11:03 am, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote:
I use Firefox on an Android phone and it quite happily
Could someone please tell me which manual this scrub_nondigest option is
described in? I didn't know mailman could do this.
Sent from my iPad
On 27 Mar 2014, at 5:33 am, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote:
Sylvain Viart wrote:
My question is:
Is there any handler that I can setup in
with
only 1000 members and low traffic, assuming we warn the yahoo members to use a
different address?
Peter Shute
Siniša Burina wrote:
I believe there's no need to elaborate on the problems recently introduced by
Yahoo, changing their
DMARC DNS record and rendering many mailman lists unusable
yahoo. We might have to do
that, but what happens if they go to the trouble of getting a gmail account,
and then google starts doing the same thing? They're not going to be happy.
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But note that the part of the threadable article I quoted talks about not
*delivering* to yahoo addresses. I would thought that shouldn't be a problem.
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they're on, perhaps because those run via google and yahoo
have a web interface too.
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if it happens again. We've moderated
all the yahoo members.
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at the reasons given.
We've reenabled him for now, so we'll see if it happens
again. We've moderated all the yahoo members.
Peter Shute
My guess on how this works is that when you deliver to Gmail,
one message will actually have many recipients, and you will
get just a single rejection
with yahoo mail? Ie is it
good enough to just look at the subscriber's email address?
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On 16 Apr 2014, at 6:23 am, Jim Popovitch jim...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Peter Shute psh...@nuw.org.au wrote:
On 16 Apr 2014, at 4:05 am, Lindsay Haisley fmo...@fmp.com wrote:
So just to be clear, putting a damper on this at this point requires
_only_ that posts
That sounds a bit like what yahoo and google groups do. If there's a web forum
associated with the list then there'd be the option to simply not deliver to
yahoo members, and they can just use the web interface.
Peter Shute
Sent from my iPhone
On 17 Apr 2014, at 1:39 pm, Stephen J. Turnbull
to a message.
A fully integrated web forum would solve the problem. Yahoo groups can be
accessed via the web or by email, but had other problems I can't remember.
Peter Shute
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no mention of
allowing replies via the archive.
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On 30 Apr 2014, at 9:32 am, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote:
They are also rewriting From: headers in outgoing googlegroups posts
whose original From: address is in a domain with DMARC p=reject.
Is yahoo doing the same thing for yahoo groups?
Peter Shute
On 1 May 2014, at 12:47 am, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote:
On 04/30/2014 06:20 AM, Larry Finch wrote:
On Apr 30, 2014, at 5:11 AM, Peter Shute psh...@nuw.org.au wrote:
Is yahoo doing the same thing for yahoo groups?
Yahoo doesn’t have to. Mail from a Yahoo group already has
cpanel's
version of mailman will incorporate the features necessary to deal with the
problem:
http://forums.cpanel.net/f43/yahoos-new-dmarc-policy-causing-mailman-bounces-402751.html
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On 5 May 2014, at 4:59 pm, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote:
Peter Shute writes:
How does Yahoo's DMARC policy reduce the benefit of Paypal's?
Because servers can't follow the reject recommendation without
No, it's because users get used to ignoring warnings about DMARC
be recommending yahoo groups as an alternative?
I took that to mean that these lists are no longer accepting new members, and
that prospective members are being advised to join some particular yahoo groups
instead. I.e. they're gradually migrating to yahoo groups.
Peter Shute
I understand now, fake warnings for phishing. As for not being taken in, I
haven't yet, but I'm sure it would be possible to create one that I would
assume to be genuine.
Peter Shute
Sent from my iPad
On 6 May 2014, at 3:15 pm, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote:
Peter Shute
in faster than you did on Reply-To munging.wink /
Can you explain that for the uneducated, please? What do you mean by
list-post? Is that the list address?
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On 7 May 2014, at 4:07 pm, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote:
Peter Shute writes:
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
The DMARC WG advocates putting list-post in From in place
of a DMARC p=reject address. I advocate accepting their
advice for stock Mailman, and avoiding other non
On 7 May 2014, at 11:59 pm, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote:
Peter Shute writes:
Thanks, I understand now. If the result of this is that replies go
to everyone on the list, this is something we don't want for our
list. Private replies becoming public means trouble, and we
on the reactions from
users?
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happened if you made changes
like adding a prefix to the subject line like Mailman does.
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page where it says Add
x...@xyz.com to one of these filters if I select the Accepts option? If so,
is a script the only way to access its contents?
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On 05/16/2014 03:02 PM, Peter Shute wrote:
On 17 May 2014, at 5:28 am, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote:
See the script at http://www.msapiro.net/scripts/non_members.
Is this the same filter as used on the moderation page where it says Add
x...@xyz.com to one of these filters if I
On 17 May 2014, at 5:14 pm, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote:
Peter Shute writes:
Thanks, found it. I didn't realise there were sub menus for that stuff.
That's not good. Is there something we could do to help make it
obvious that (many) more settings are accessible
Why isn't this the default setting? Is there some disadvantage to it?
Peter Shute
Sent from my iPad
On 18 May 2014, at 11:19 am, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote:
A post in another thread reminded me of something I had overlooked until
now.
If you are a site admin and you are only
will only show the
first few characters of the long display name. Would this be better:
From: [some-mail-list] Mark Rousell ma...@signal100.com
some-mail-l...@yahoogroups.com
Peter Shute
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On 26 May 2014, at 1:49 am, Mark Rousell ma...@signal100.com wrote:
What do you think
passwordmaker's
terminology.
Easy to understand how the misunderstanding arose, and how it escalated. I was
initially confused too. If it works for Charles then it should work for anyone.
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it not being secure. How insecure, I don't know. Is
this rdf file encrypted? Do you need a master password to use it?
I expect all the Apple quoting will vanish from the text above, I hope you can
work out what's quoted and what's not.
Peter Shute
it, or have indicated
that they ever/never will?
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Who said spamming has to be logical? I once read that spammers often use
outdated, stolen, spamming software that spams in ways that were obsolete years
ago.
Peter Shute
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their messages by hand. This is obviously not going to work if
other providers gradually start doing it too.
If our cpanel host ever upgrades then we'll be able to decide on a more
permanent solution.
Peter Shute
-Original Message-
From: Stephen J. Turnbull [mailto:step...@xemacs.org
?
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drive them away, so I'm in favour of getting
their postings to the list somehow.
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), along with the explanation and avoid the bouncing?
That way the author has the incentive of getting rid of these accompanying
explanations to change addresses. I'd forward the messages quoted, not as
attachments.
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I'd like to be able to warn users not to simply Reply to the message expecting
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address in From. The latter would be useful for those who
find replying directly to the original sender difficult, but they don't include
any quoted text, which is annoying at times.
Peter Shute
On 22 Jun 2014, at 11:50 am, Mark Rousell ma...@signal100.com wrote:
On 22/06/2014 00:04, Ron Guerin
Will gmail recognise the message as a duplicate even if the list has added a
prefix to the subject line, and a footer?
Peter Shute
Sent from my iPad
On 23 Jun 2014, at 3:32 am, Seun Ojedeji seun.ojed...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello Willi
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 4:51 PM, willi uebelherr
We're considering enabling the scrub_nondigest option for our list. The aim is
to allow members to send jpg files to the list (currently filtered) and have
mailman include a link to them in messages instead of the actual attachment.
I've got a few questions about how this works.
I believe it
from their list
with a linked image so I can check how well it works, that would be greatly
appreciated
Thanks for sending the sample.
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I was testing that for you a few weeks ago. I just tried again, and it seems to
work smoothly now.
Could that be made to automatically resize images? E.g. maximum dimensions
800x800 pixels.
Peter Shute
Sent from my iPad
On 23 Jun 2014, at 7:30 pm, Sylvain Viart sylv...@opensource-expert.com
On 24 Jun 2014, at 8:56 am, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote:
On 06/23/2014 01:03 AM, Peter Shute wrote:
Any idea if we'll have access to that area in cPanel? I'm not the list
owner, I can't test it for myself.
It depends. In cPanel all Mailman files including the archives/private
Do you know if any of the reminders to Comcast addresses are getting through?
Peter Shute
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On Behalf Of Robert Heller
Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2014 9:50 PM
To: Mailman Users
Subject
Confusing things more is that not all Yahoo domains are set to p=reject. E.g.
Yahoo.com.au doesn't, but yahoo.com does. Are all your yahoo members on
yahoo.com?
Peter Shute
Sent from my iPad
On 13 Jul 2014, at 7:10 am, Steven Owens stevenjow...@gmail.com wrote:
I have some new data just
seconds.
Can I assume this has nothing to do with mailman?
Peter Shute
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On 14 Jul 2014, at 9:44 pm, Peter Shute psh...@nuw.org.au wrote:
As a moderator of our list, I know when messages are approved, and I'm seeing
very erratic delivery times to my own address, which is on an Exchange
server. They used to come through within a minute
...@msapiro.net]
Sent: Monday, 14 July 2014 10:55 PM
To: Peter Shute; GNU mailman users
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Erratic mail delivery times
On July 14, 2014 4:29:16 AM PDT, Peter Shute
psh...@nuw.org.au wrote:
Can I assume this has nothing to do with mailman?
Look
.
Peter Shute
-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Mark Sapiro
Sent: Tuesday, 15 July 2014 12:59 PM
To: mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Erratic mail delivery times
On 07/14/2014 06:55 PM
,
coinciding with an antispam signature update.
But if the antispam software is refusing the messages, how do they eventually
get through?
Peter Shute
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On Behalf Of Stephen J. Turnbull
Sent
.
Peter Shute
Sent from my iPad
On 21 Jul 2014, at 1:35 am, Dave Nathanson dave.li...@nathanson.org wrote:
I'm surprised that any web/email host would apply a rule intended for a
personal email account to a listserve. I'm guessing that you are running
MailMan on your own computer
mention limits.
I assume when you mention not keeping mailman up to date, you're referring to
our current provider, not dreamhost?
Peter Shute
-Original Message-
From: Brian Carpenter [mailto:br...@emwd.com]
Sent: Monday, 21 July 2014 7:50 AM
To: Peter Shute; 'Dave Nathanson'
Cc
of the members are on one domain? 50% of our members are with
just 5 domains.
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from the start. Time to
concentrate on moving to a new provider.
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Thanks, Dave. How are you coping with yahoo emails if you've only got 2.1.17? I
can't remember what changes it's got in it, but I thought the latest dealt with
it better.
Peter Shute
Sent from my iPad
On 22 Jul 2014, at 3:59 am, Dave Nathanson dave.li...@nathanson.org wrote:
Hi Peter
with a p=reject
DMARC policy* (requires an additional Python package to make
the DNS check for the policy).
That was my impression too. It sounds less disruptive, but I wonder if the
resulting variability of behaviour of Reply and Reply all would just cause
confusion.
Peter Shute
realise they weren't all affected, but most of our yahoo users
are on yahoo.com.
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I'm glad to hear that, although I think I'll have to try it to get my head
around it.
Peter Shute
Sent from my iPad
On 22 Jul 2014, at 3:54 pm, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote:
On 07/21/2014 06:50 PM, Peter Shute wrote:
That was my impression too. It sounds less disruptive, but I
servers respond differently to wrongly configured
DNS, it might just be coincidence that the other list isn't having the same
trouble. It might also be that it is having the same trouble, but with far less
recipients.
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to prevent scrub_nondigest removing these message parts? Is
there a way to at least stop the angle brackets getting converted to codes?
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Sent: Wednesday, 13 August 2014 10:01 AM
To: mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Scrub_nondigest removing html
message text
On 08/12/2014 03:33 PM, Peter Shute wrote:
We've discovered that if scrub_nondigest
Thanks for that, I'll give that a try.
-Original Message-
From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:m...@msapiro.net]
Sent: Wednesday, 13 August 2014 11:52 AM
To: Peter Shute; mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Scrub_nondigest removing html
message text
On 08/12/2014 06:34
variables affect this?
Peter Shute
-Original Message-
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[mailto:mailman-users-bounces+pshute=nuw.org...@python.org]
On Behalf Of Mark Sapiro
Sent: Tuesday, 22 July 2014 3:54 PM
To: mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Erratic mail delivery times
Further unwanted Reply All behaviour - a Lotus Notes user says when he sends a
reply with Reply All, the list bounce address is Cc'd. It does include the list
address too, which is good.
Can it cause any problems to Cc the list bounce address?
Peter Shute
-Original Message-
From
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
Peter Shute writes:
We're now on a new list server, which is running v2.1.18-1. We've
set from_is_list to munged, and it's now sending list messages from
the list, and putting the original sender's address in Reply To as
expected.
On my iPad
changed to gmail when we asked, but a couple remain. If they still won't change
then they'll have to put up with this.
I've discovered another side effect of munging and iOS Mail, which I'll mention
in another thread.
Thanks for your help,
Peter Shute
the Contact name of the list in the mail list.
It wasn't until I added an x in front of the address that it also displayed the
sender's display name in the mail list.
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https
.
But that was a shared mail server. Is this mail server your own? And our
members are with random mail providers. Are the list members all on the same
domain?
Peter Shute
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On 19 Aug 2014, at 11:40 pm, Kevin Carpenter kev...@seaplace.org wrote:
Hi all.
Been casually fighting a problem
.
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So no bouncing? That's good, it means our Yahoo/AOL subscribers can't do any
damage, and have another reason to change addresses. I haven't tried the
wrapping option, but I'm not keen on it because of anticipated client issues
with them.
Peter Shute
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From: Brian
messages marked Defer options.
Wouldn't removing that option make it even more likely for a moderator to
approve more than they should? I.e. it's harder to clear them all out, so they
have to be done one by one.
Peter Shute
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, and it's working ok.
Peter Shute
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wonder if a better way to make Mailman more accessible on either iphone or
ipad would be to create a browser with password saving and just rearranging the
existing pages with style sheets, it that's possible.
Peter Shute
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On 15 Sep 2014, at 3:35 am, christian studer cstu
Could it be that these people are subscribed under other email addresses, which
they've set to forward to their current one? You could try searching for
similar looking addresses.
Peter Shute
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Is it possible that somehow you're using the moderator page for the wrong list,
ie they're still awaiting moderation?
Peter Shute
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On 19 Sep 2014, at 2:07 am, Shannon Doane s_do...@yahoo.com.dmarc.invalid
wrote:
I recently had my email lists migrated from one server
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