turn on personalization, and this problem goes away.
I frankly wouldn't run mailing lists without at least some
personalization -- because as it shows, the old style Bcc: the
users style of bulk mailing (a) looks spammy and gets treated as
such, and (b) users no longer are terribly tolerant
Somehow (I don't know), one of my lists has ended up with a user
subscribed as tab[EMAIL PROTECTED]. because of taht, all the normal
unsub stuff works, and I can't ofr the life of me remember the magic
incantation to get mailman to let me unsubscribe an address with a
funky character in it.
is the owner of listowerns.org around? if so, drop me a note, will you?
I'm willing to take it over and operate it.
On Mar 3, 2005, at 11:54 AM, Brad Knowles wrote:
At 6:27 AM -0600 2005-03-03, Willie McKemie wrote:
Listowners.org has been down (to my knowledge) for several days.
It's been
On Feb 28, 2005, at 12:59 PM, Christopher Adams wrote:
A list owner asked me if a list can be configured so that any message
sent to the list could not have a cc (carbon copy) attached.
that'd be a very bad idea. Look at this message, for instance. It'd
block any message sent to the list with
On Feb 17, 2005, at 2:08 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi
I like to keep my setup simple here. Web servers run apache. Mail
servers run sendmail. The two are never mixed.
What we did when we had to do this was simply set up the web machine as
a proxy. you still run mailman via apache on your
The fact that at least 4 people from this list have already responded
that they too have gotten that same mailman confirm email from that
domain/list at about the time, as they recall, that they first
subscribed here and made their first post leaves no doubt at this
point
that there is a
On Feb 17, 2005, at 8:19 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
I'm still a bit more skeptical at this point than no doubt, but I'm
open to the idea.
since I've already found the culprit (I hope), it's well beyond no
doubt. it's guaranteed.
Someone is somehow watching this public list and getting addresses of
On Feb 17, 2005, at 9:03 AM, Steve Burling wrote:
What the heck were they thinking when the designers of Python chose
amount of leading white space to indicate block structure? It seems
absolutely guaranteed to cause problems such as this.
it's one of those things about python that you either
check out MHonarc. (www.mhonarc.org). It should do what you want.
On Feb 8, 2005, at 11:11 AM, Robert Flach wrote:
Unfortunately, all of the solutions in the FAQ (which I checked before
posting) require either access to mailboxes or access to the Mailman
internals, neither of which I have in my
On Feb 16, 2005, at 1:50 PM, Joshua Beall wrote:
I have a client who wants to setup a very *large* mailing list. Right
now
she has about 4500 people on the list (including myself).
4500 is not large. I've run lists on mailman over 40K. I run lists
where the testing group is probably 4500...
Is
What is the largest known MM list out there?
I can go to about 50K, on moderately slow hardware (sun E250). An
xserve can handle that without breaking a sweat.
We're thinking of using it for a list that currently contains 400,000
entries, though probably about 20% of those should be
sure it can. it's a porn site. you running IE on windows, right?
try installing firefox on the same machine and see what happens.
On Feb 16, 2005, at 4:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There is no way this can be due to a hijacked browser.
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On Feb 14, 2005, at 4:24 AM, Florian Weimer wrote:
You're trying to establish something like ownership of security bugs.
No, I'm trying to get the people on this list to follow the STANDARD
PROTOCOL that exists for disclosure of this data, actually. Which if
people actually paid attention to
On Feb 10, 2005, at 8:17 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am I correct in assuming the attack only allows hackers to access
(read)
files? Yes, I understand that if they can read/get mailman passwords,
they
can obviously change lists but nothing more nefarious than that?
they can not only get the
If you own a business, and your customers start telling your employees
when to take coffee breaks, would that upset you?
that's the same issue as when users decide when to make announcements
about mailman without consulting Barry. It's Barry's call.
A lot of this comes down to the issue of
If Barry didn't know about it, disclosing it without his approval was
wrong.
if barry DID know, and hadn't done the disclosure himself, doing it
without his approval was wrong, because Barry likely had a reason why
he hadn't mentioned it yet.
Either way, something like this should have been
However, I also take Chuq's point that all security announcements to
this list, and all related mailman mailing lists hosted on python.org,
should be made by Barry or one of the other core developers. Even if
the information has been publicly released elsewhere, it is not
appropriate to post
I'd imagine Apple's lists are much, much larger...
IIRC, the last time I heard, their largest single list was somewhere
in the region of 15,000 users.
at one point we had one list that was over 40K, but we've migrated it
to other things and it's not on mailman any longer.
But then they host
And you get what you pay for, I guess. If you're in that situation, why
do you assume that because the software doesn't have a price tag you no
longer need a compentent tech person managing it? you did a great
explanation of why geeks still get paychecks, not why these packages
are bad.
On
On Nov 5, 2004, at 12:09 PM, Stewart Dean wrote:
John, everything you say is valid, and your response is helpful. It
is not my intent to just 'bitch from the cheap seat'...the old, 'The
food's no good and there's not enough of it'.
What I was attempting to express was/is my frustration at a
of course, we're also desperate for people to document... that's
another common request -- better docs.
On Nov 5, 2004, at 3:32 PM, John W. Baxter wrote:
Some people who shouldn't code should document, instead. Lots of
projects
could use that (including commercial ones). Or coordinate.
no, but you can set up mailman to run on one machine, and use the
second machine as a web proxy for the pages. that's straight forward.
I'd be very leery of network filesystem issues because of the locking
problems that might happen.
On Nov 3, 2004, at 1:44 PM, Troy Richard wrote:
I think that
But the same error message over multiple mailings for *all* AOL list
members over a week or more would indicate that it is correct.
Maybe. Remember that I used to work there.
Brad's right here. I've dealt with this stuff and AOL enough to be able
to confirm they don't always have their act
On Oct 21, 2004, at 3:56 AM, John Fleming wrote:
are otherwise blocked. Mine is a personal sever. I am a newbie, but
I'm
using Postfix/Debian and it is not an open relay.
AOL also blocks email from servers living in IP spaces known to be
dialup or in the cable modem or home DSL ranges in many
On Oct 21, 2004, at 6:06 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
blacklist. Even though the list mail is finally coming from my
server,
couldn't the presence of his IP or ISP in the message headers be
enough
to
trigger the blacklist? - john
No.
Yes, actually.
That's not quite right, I don't think, because if
did you follow the link that AOL supplied?
The IP address you are sending from has been temporarily rate limited
due to AOL Member complaints.
their suggestions are there, also.
On Oct 20, 2004, at 8:29 AM, John Fleming wrote:
I've followed the AOL members not receiving list mail thread from
On Sep 25, 2004, at 11:28 AM, demo wrote:
Just out of interest, have Apple actually put anything back *into* your
development community?
Looking into the future, you might want to hive off a
lost-Mac-tech-mailman
list ... My guess is that there are going to be a whole load of lost
souls
headed
um, I happen to know those folks pretty well. They're as responsive as
they can be, given they have the same kind of restrictions we all do
(even here in Mailman-land): can't do everything for everyone, because
there isn't enough resource, and not everything ought to be done.
won't speak for
yup. It's probably the delivery piece, not mailman. I've run 50,000+ on
a sun E250.
On Sep 9, 2004, at 12:10 PM, Dave Stern - Former Rocket Scientist wrote:
Is this due to the pickle based persistence mechanism used? Can I do
anything to help?
Regarding sending, you'll probably wanna tune your
you would be doing them a favor, honest.
On Sep 1, 2004, at 9:28 AM, John wrote:
so may have to unsubscribe all the AOL people and tell them to use a
different email if they still wish to be on the list. That's kind of
a bummer for them
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On Aug 23, 2004, at 8:57 AM, Jeff Barger wrote:
Is Mailman capable of blocking this kind of message?
You can play around with the spam filtering to catch a lot of these
messages. IMHO, it's best to just stop munging the Reply-To. See this
page: http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html.
it's a new virus, sending itself out as return bounces.
On Jul 26, 2004, at 9:46 AM, Jim Gammon wrote:
Hi folks, a Newbie here.
Suddenly our list is generating a high volume of messages about our
mail being unacceptable, and one saying we seem to be infected with a
worm.
Any advice on what to
Guys --
Can we please drop this? It's been beaten into the ground. I don't
think the mailman development crew has shown itself well here, either,
especially Brad, who seems to be grumpy beyond the needs of the
discussion for some reason. I don't think we as a team managing an open
source
On Apr 3, 2004, at 11:26 AM, Bob Bowers wrote:
On Tuesday I was informed by my web hosting service that they had
multiple spam complaints from AOL for one of my mail lists.
welcome to the monkey farm:
http://www.plaidworks.com/chuqui/blog/000256.html
On Feb 8, 2004, at 10:54 PM, Thomas Hochstein wrote:
It has got nothing to do with Mailman. Go and ask at the right place.
I have no clue
Obviously. But please stop bothering us with that.
c'mon, folks.
There's a polite way to help people, and then there's -- this.
Stuff like this doesn't
On Feb 9, 2004, at 3:15 PM, Adam Wozniak wrote:
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004, Remko Lodder wrote:
/var/qmail/bin/sendmail
should also be able to do the task :)
Thanks so much for all the help.
My lists now appear to be passing mail.
My shunt directory is still full of test messages, but I'm less
On Feb 5, 2004, at 4:58 PM, Paul H Byerly wrote:
I think the issue for the developers is theory vs. reality. What
is the desired behaviour for the majority of new Mailman lists?
Should not that be the default, with appropriate explanations?
This isn't the answer some will want to hear,
On Feb 5, 2004, at 5:02 PM, Mark Dadgar wrote:
Cool! I'm a Level 10 Paladin with 115 hit points!
(ok, *now* I'm done)
lightweight. I'd have you killed, but you're not worth the karma points.
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On Feb 5, 2004, at 4:57 PM, Mark Dadgar wrote:
So, what's your point?
Unless you've been in my position, you wouldn't understand it.
Actually, since I know Brad pretty well by now, I'll bet he would.
Try him and see.
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those of us who do email for a living feel it's not a rationalization,
and not ridiculous. But those that argue against it do.
Sorry, but the fact that you don't agree with it doesn't change my mind.
On Feb 4, 2004, at 10:55 PM, Mark Dadgar wrote:
This is totally ridiculous.
The document you
On Feb 5, 2004, at 4:01 AM, John Buttery wrote:
If the whole concept of information being irretrievably destroyed by
clobbering Reply-To: willy-nilly isn't a compelling reason to you, I'm
not sure what else to say.
This issue goes away if we could stop trying to use reply-to for too
many
On Feb 5, 2004, at 9:06 AM, Mark Dadgar wrote:
My lists use it. And my users prefer it - I know, I've asked.
self-selected audiences. I have asked users what they think, and gotten
one answer, and I've done formal surveys soliciting feedback from the
entire list, and gotten very different
Bottom line, I can understand that there was a time when reply
to author made sense for a lot of lists, but I don't think that is
the case anymore.
I feel that it really depends on the nature of the list - the purpose,
the participants, the number of participants.
and the religious war
On Feb 5, 2004, at 2:09 PM, Warren Woodward wrote:
We now have upwards of 400 public lists on our mailman server, and I
have
heard complaints over this matter from every single one of them.
be wary of the squeaky wheel speaking for the entire wagon.
just list this discussion.
you may be
On Feb 5, 2004, at 2:27 PM, Brad Knowles wrote:
Indeed, he has. He doesn't like to brag about it, but he does run
some of the largest known Mailman mailing lists, and his systems are
on the same scale as the Kolstad Chalup papers that I have
previously mentioned on this mailing list. Chuq
On Jan 4, 2004, at 9:55 AM, Steve Roitstein wrote:
I write the messages in the mail program the comes with my mac. I
sometimes send out a small jpg attachment but mostly it's text with a
bit of color added to a few words.
Subscribers who are on AOL get the message in a different text, no
line
On Dec 14, 2003, at 6:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I want to make sure all the bounces go back to list-owner@
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] domain.com for bounce processing and so
that
I do not have to see them.
Basically, you can't, because there are some sites that simply refuse
to follow
anyone on any of my lists who files a spam complaint against my mail
list gets unsubscribed. when they resubscribe and complain about being
dropped, they get The Lecture and The Warning. If they send a second
round of spam complaints, they get unsubscribed and banned.
Funny, AOL users learn
don't bother. I've had that discussion. The folks who deal with the TOS
messages are trained at the if the user says it's spam, it must be
spam, so what are you going to do about it? level. they don't want
justice, they want quiet.
(and I can sympathize at some level, but what a way to run an
On Nov 4, 2003, at 8:54 AM, Ricardo Kustner wrote:
I wish I could do that: my current mailman setup doesn't put the
user's address in the To: address and since those wonderful AOL
reports only include the original message, I can't tell from who it is
coming!!
upgrade to 2.1, turn on
On Nov 4, 2003, at 10:52 AM, Will Yardley wrote:
Do we *really* need this feature on the mailman-users list? Does
anyone actually find it helpful?
god, yes. Please don't assume everyone on your lists is a geek with
perfect memory of which email address got signed up for what list when.
bad assumption.
On Nov 4, 2003, at 10:58 AM, Will Yardley wrote:
I'd like to assume (perhaps wrongly) that most people on *this* list
can
figure out what address a message was sent to by looking at the headers
of the email
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On Monday, September 22, 2003, at 06:28 PM, Paul H Byerly wrote:
Am I correct in assuming that the problem is with the CPanel
interface with Mailman
No. All we really know is that Cpanel isn't working on one specific
ISP. Whether that's CPanel's fault or the ISP's fault, or smoe other
so perhaps the Mailman FAQ should have an item suggesting Cpanel users
contact Cpanel for support?
On Monday, September 22, 2003, at 06:17 PM, Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Definitely not stock installs of any of the
programs bundled with them, or stock configs.
On Tuesday, August 26, 2003, at 04:51 PM, Heath Raftery wrote:
I have a user who is on a campaign to remove his email address from
any web site.
good for him. he's figured it out...
However, I did point out that the archives are still downloadable in
raw mbox format, complete with email
Gee, maybe you should start writing code, eh?
I used to until [troll deleted by moderator]
As one of the admins here, I've just set [EMAIL PROTECTED] to moderated
status, so all of his postings will be approved by one of the
moderators before going to the list. Given where this discussion is
://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Searchable Archives:
http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe or change your options at
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am. I'll look at that when I can.
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turned off or taken away. If it
does, really bad things happen...
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On Thursday, January 23, 2003, at 10:01 PM, Barry A. Warsaw wrote:
Huh? What's an X-loop header? Mailman doesn't use or add this
header.
It's a procmail convention, so that procmail recipes can tell they've
already seen a message and break a potential mail loop.
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On Monday, January 20, 2003, at 02:22 PM, Angel Gabriel wrote:
My question is, would it be quicker to have the DNS on the same
machine as
mailman,
Yes, sometimes very significantly.
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Yes, I am
require a much different user interface than discussion
lists do, I wrote custom systems. Mailman really isn't something yous
hould try to wedge into that round hole, and I don't think it makes
sense to try to use it as the backend...
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, it's
cleaner than trying to add stuff to pipermail I'd have to maintain.
given my free time, noot a good sitaution.
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But when that last guitar's been packed away
You know that I still want to play
So just
to confirm the unsubscription. So you can avoid the
password hassle by clicking a web link.
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Yes, I am an agent of Satan, but my duties
are largely ceremonial
it.
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Yes, I am an agent of Satan, but my duties
are largely ceremonial.
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-to to the list, you won't set up your lists
to ask for these wonderful little mailbombs.
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The Cliff's Notes Cliff's Notes on Hamlet:
And they all died happily ever after
that traditionally
points to the info pages (and with 2.1, that can be customized to the
user), do we still need to send out reminders monthly?
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Stress is when you wake up screaming and you realize you haven't
monthly is about right. I'm not ready to do away
with them, especially since 2.1 can hook the bounce systme into them.
but I'm still unsure just what good they do, either.
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Yes, I am an agent of Satan, but my
they unsubscribed? Or go
on vacation and forget to turn it back on, and when the reminder came,
decided they liked the quiet?
I can think of a bunch of scenarios, but I don't have any data.
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The first rule
many ways to
make life much worse. And given how often we run into I thought it was
optional (as opposed to read the instructions? why?'), I'm just not
convinced it's broken.
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Stress is when you wake up
On Wednesday, October 16, 2002, at 01:15 PM, Jeff Simmons wrote:
I've talked to several other Mailman admins - Hotmail is dumping a lot
of
messages from us on the floor.
Hotmail seems to be more broken than usual.
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[EMAIL
.
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IMHO: Jargon. Acronym for In My Humble Opinion. Used to flag as an opinion
something that is clearly from context an opinion to everyone except the
mentally dense. Opinions flagged by IMHO are actually rarely humble. IMHO
and the information that someone thought someone else would be
interested in xxx.
I won't use them on any site where I don't trust the privacy policy. And,
well, I generally odn't use ANY site I don't trust the privacy policy, but
that's a different issue.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED
into the house (back to 1995 or so), and I find it
perfectly reliable enough.
Although I always find people telling my my setup won't work fascinating...
(grin)
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Stress is when you wake up screaming and you realize you
. The original request put it too far into the approval
chain, though. Some way of letting a person know about the list is good.
Signing them up isn't. Building your setup so it can be hijacked is really
bad.
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He doesn't have
slashdotted multiple times and my server doesn't implode, unlike many
others.
Frankly, I don't think you have a clue here. I'm DOING IT. Have been for
years. So why don't I have a clue? And you do?
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He doesn't have
other note on this. That's why they have business lines. If you're
plaing the go cheap and hope they don't find out game, that's not the
ISP's fault.
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The Cliff's Notes Cliff's Notes on Hamlet:
And they all died happily
the @#$@#$% off the list, whether or not they're on it yet.
Point the user to the thing. Don't, whatever you do, do NOT start the
process FOR them.
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IMHO: Jargon. Acronym for In My Humble Opinion. Used to flag as an opinion
something
. It merely means they feel they can do anything, and you can't tell them
not to. Of course, by saying you can't tell them to not do it, they impinge
on your free speech (if you accept their definition), but since that affects
you, not them, that doesn't really matter. To them.
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this pretty short (25 questions or so, to keep from
intimidating users into giving up), I don't think we'll get everything we
want. But feel free to suggest things,a nd we'll decide later what to make
the priorities...
Your thoughts on this more than encouraged...
Chuq
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.
Amazingly often, it doesn't seem to.
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Stress is when you wake up screaming and you realize you haven't fallen
asleep yet.
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On 6/10/02 7:07 PM, Jonathan Andrew Sheen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I'm looking see if mailman has a way to specify what port
it's making its DNS requests *from.*
Mailman does no DNS lookups. It's all up to your mail delivery system.
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a
round trip through some user's mail client? Because that on behalf of
sounds an awful lot like it got forwarded or redirected. Take a look at a
set of full headers to see whether maybe it got sent out normally, and then
someone who received it did this to you Um, for you. Um...
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from not agreeing with our development styles to personality attacks.
Trolls are trolls, and it serves no useful purpose to the Mailman system to
continue trying to 'help' this person, since all he's interested in doing is
pointing out what idiots we are.
Chuq
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of the
bathroom, too, but most of us don't feel the need to do that to say the
bathroom is clean...
(in other words, IMHO, it's overkill and you're 'solving' a non-problem)
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The Cliff's Notes Cliff's Notes on Hamlet
On 5/11/02 6:08 PM, Barry A. Warsaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, should Sendmail.py just go away?
Yes. If nobody's fixed it by now, it's unlikely anyone will.
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He doesn't have ulcers, but he's a carrier
as to the
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The Cliff's Notes Cliff's Notes on Hamlet:
And they all died happily ever after
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On 4/19/02 8:53 AM, Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Makes you kind of want to create a Meta admin page with some standard
setups like Announce-only list, etc.
Or write up faqs/howtos on how to configure specific standard list styles?
Maybe an operators manual of some sort?
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constructive.
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Very funny, Scotty. Now beam my clothes down here, will you?
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with and which feature
set best meets your needs. If I weren't working with Mailman, I'd be using
Sympa.
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Stress is when you wake up screaming and you realize you haven't fallen
asleep yet
who gets the message from a friend of a friend who
saw it on a mail list has a chance of figuring out how to get onto the list.
List-Archive:, like List-Post:, seems like Mailman could determine
Again, I think that's a 2.1 thing.
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, just maybe, the people who spend their time designing,
building, maintaining and operating mailman and mailman-using systems know
something about this topic that people like OP don't.
Nah. He's right. Let's nuke the headers.
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On 4/7/02 5:30 PM, J C Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Have you considered that perhaps Mailman is just not for you?
Nope. Not relevant. Don't inject facts into a rant.
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The first rule of holes: If you are in one
the angry replies go back to the poor
schmuck in the reply-to -- and since I've already abandoned the hotmail
account I used to start the bomb, I'm off scott free)
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He doesn't have ulcers, but he's a carrier
into messages with the karma
rating, so users could filter based on the karma rating. All sorts of fun
ways to get people to play karma politics on your mail list...
Funny, FWIW, is -3. It is one of the biggest problems with /. Karma. But I
digress.
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think I'll hold off for a bit and see how
this part of the saga plays out.
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Very funny, Scotty. Now beam my clothes down here, will you?
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might require a little tweaking, but that's easy.
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Will Geek for hardware.
The Cliff's Notes Cliff's Notes on Hamlet:
And they all died happily ever after
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On 1/30/02 9:38 PM, Ed Reiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey Benny,
Yes - I'm using Apache, and SSI had been enabled.
But SSI generally doesn't work in CGI programs, which the python files are.
The two are basically mutually exclusive.
What I did was use mod_layout (www.tangent.org) instead
On 12/20/01 1:01 AM, J C Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Are there any capacity limitations as far as the number of names
mailman can handle at a single time?
Explicitly no. In terms of runtime resource consumption, yes.
I'd be very wary, unless you have really large iron. The current
On 12/20/01 11:56 AM, J C Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Really? I manage two larger than that (neither on mailman).
Hurm. In my context above I'm assuming that list does not cover
marketing lists per se but only what we'd historically/'net-wise
consider a mailing list
Sorry, a list
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