[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists

2023-07-06 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 7/6/23 10:26 AM, Charles Buckley wrote: In hindsight, I think this problem was more to do with the fact that I run three lists on this server, two of which have the same list admin password, one of which doesn't. If the developer team were thinking too pointy-headedly while developing

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists

2023-07-06 Thread Charles Buckley
:13 To: Richard Damon Cc: mailman-users@python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists Anyway, it would be easy to check if Charles has access to mm_cfg.py. (I don't think there's anything in config.pck that affects the URL scheme.) Steve

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists

2023-07-06 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Richard Damon writes: > One configuration error that I remember being able to cause this > sort of issue is if the list is configured with a http:// address, > but the server automatically forwards to https:// then it can lose > the data for the submission. Interesting idea. But I don't

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists

2023-07-06 Thread Richard Damon
it probably be in some DB for which there was never any compelling need. Ch. -Original Message- From: Mark Sapiro Sent: Wednesday, 5 July 2023 22:39 To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists On 7/5/23 1:27 AM

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists

2023-07-05 Thread Charles Buckley
doesn't allow admin changes on private lists On 7/5/23 7:51 PM, Charles Buckley wrote: > > Heck, if I knew where the footer data was stored, I'd be happy to go in and > edit the file by hand, the web page be damned. I just want to get this > delivered and out of the way. Watch

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists

2023-07-05 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mark Sapiro writes: > Actually, the first 2.1 release was in December, 2002. See > https://wiki.list.org/DOC/7%20Mailman%20history You would You have to admit the early 2.1 release history is extremely confusing. I'm pretty sure I chose the tag that was exactly "2.1".

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists

2023-07-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 7/5/23 7:51 PM, Charles Buckley wrote: Heck, if I knew where the footer data was stored, I'd be happy to go in and edit the file by hand, the web page be damned. I just want to get this delivered and out of the way. Watch it probably be in some DB for which there was never any

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists

2023-07-05 Thread Charles Buckley
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists On 7/5/2023 12:54 PM, Charles Buckley wrote: > My server is one of those shared servers, to which I do not have shell > access. Mailman would have to be reinstalled by the sysadmins -- I > can't do i

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists

2023-07-05 Thread Charles Buckley
this delivered and out of the way. Watch it probably be in some DB for which there was never any compelling need. Ch. -Original Message- From: Mark Sapiro Sent: Wednesday, 5 July 2023 22:39 To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists

2023-07-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Charles Buckley writes: > > I saw a report of this behaviour on this mailing list from the year > > 2000. > If you have an URL for this post, or a timestamp, or even a precise > date, it might be helpful. I can't find it. It's

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists

2023-07-05 Thread Carl Zwanzig
On 7/5/2023 12:54 PM, Charles Buckley wrote: My server is one of those shared servers, to which I do not have shell access. Mailman would have to be reinstalled by the sysadmins -- I can't do it. I have involved them, but they're still coming up to speed. That in itself is a trifle worrying--

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists

2023-07-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 7/5/23 1:27 AM, Charles Buckley wrote: I experimented with this a bit, and found that I could eliminate the footer on my public (browsable) list on the same server. So I tried converting my other private (non-browsable) list to be browsable, at which point I could eliminate the footer,

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists

2023-07-05 Thread Charles Buckley
Hello, Thanks for answering. If the first private list I could successfully change by making it non-private also behaved as the 'recalcitrant list' before I did so, then I would suggest that it's a mailman issue. My server is one of those shared servers, to which I do not have shell

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists

2023-07-05 Thread Carl Zwanzig
On 7/5/2023 1:27 AM, Charles Buckley wrote: Any advice would be appreciated. My first advice would be to upgrade to the current 2.1 mailman (.39?) and try it again; 2.15 is -really- old and this behavior may be due to a bug that's been fixed. z!