On Tue, 21 May 2024, Mark E. Jeftovic via mailop wrote:
The only difference between messages that get through vs ones that are
rejected (same message) is whether we send to the Yahoo email box directly,
or else via an email forward (which has SRS enabled, and optionally SPF and
even minimal
On Fri, 17 May 2024, Taavi Eomäe via mailop wrote:
As part of coordinated disclosure, I am sharing it here as well. In short,
using the approach described below, attackers can replace the entire contents
of a letter, in a way the letters still pass DKIM’s cryptographic checks.
This also means
On Sat, 4 May 2024, Alessandro Vesely via mailop wrote:
The last URL in the response says something about ARC:
ARC checks the previous authentication status of forwarded messages.
If a forwarded message passes SPF or DKIM authentication, but ARC
shows it previously failed
AA record addresses ?
TonyFinch> Too late for that by about 10 years, I'm afraid.
Looks like that dream is getting further away :-(
We wont will that fight if we don't push for it.
On 25.04.24 14:59, Andrew C Aitchison via mailop wrote:
Should someone here not know, RFC 7505
A "Null MX&
On Thu, 25 Apr 2024, Paul Menzel via mailop wrote:
Dear mail operators,
Until now we rejected emails from donotre...@invoices.premierinn.de
2024-04-23.log:2024-04-23 17:48:53 194.95.238.12 <22>Apr 23 17:48:53
mgw6-erl postfix/smtpd[744016]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
On Wed, 17 Apr 2024, Bruno Flückiger via mailop wrote:
What sort of shortcomings do you see for, say, Proxmox? I would say
that by using Open vSwitch & Free Range Routing (with EVPN), one can
get pretty close to the VMware NSX. And with enabling Ceph on Proxmox,
one can get the VSan-like
On Sat, 16 Mar 2024, Gellner, Oliver via mailop wrote:
Depending on the kind of changes which have been applied to the
message you can reverse the transformations and verify the original
DKIM signatures. A member of this list developed a software to do
this programmatically.
Where can I learn
On Thu, 14 Mar 2024, Johann Klasek via mailop wrote:
On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 12:03:46PM +0100, Marco Moock via mailop wrote:
Am 14.03.2024 schrieb Julian Bradfield via mailop :
On 2024-03-14, Marco Moock via mailop wrote:
sendmail tried to deliver it 20 times during the night - this
On Thu, 14 Mar 2024, Marco Moock via mailop wrote:
Am 14.03.2024 schrieb Cyril - ImprovMX via mailop :
But in my opinion, moving the needle upward by not accepting
deprecated versions would force those users to be compliant and
improve the general security.
Most of them will simply fall
On Wed, 13 Mar 2024, Marco Moock via mailop wrote:
Am 13.03.2024 um 10:43:27 Uhr schrieb Bill Cole via mailop:
Without one, disabling them is a cargo-cult praxis that is worse than
any false sense of security provided to oblivious peers who can't do
TLSv1.2 or better.
What are legitimate
https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/noble-numbat-release-notes/39890#tls-10-11-and-dtls-10-are-forcefully-disabled-13
(which is mostly a template) suggests that TLS 1.0, 1.1 and DTLS 1.0 are
"forcefully disabled" in the upcoming Ubuntu release
(due next month at a guess).
Apparently this is not new
On Wed, 6 Mar 2024, John Levine via mailop wrote:
Right. I am aware of communities of EAI mail users in India and Thailand,
but not anywhere else. You might expect EAI users in China, but nope,
for reasons I can explain if anyone cares.
Everywhere else people use ASCII mail addresses, even
On Mon, 26 Feb 2024, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote:
Dnia 26.02.2024 o godz. 10:19:54 Kris Deugau via mailop pisze:
Also try getting your recipients to complain to their mail hosting
provider - complaints from the people who want to *receive* the
message are far more effective than complaints
On Sat, 24 Feb 2024, Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. via mailop wrote:
Not to mention that Federal law requires a one-step unsubscribe method.
As I often seem to get challenged on this, here is the text of the law:
"§ 316.5 Prohibition on charging a fee or imposing other
requirements on recipients who
On Fri, 16 Feb 2024, Matt Palmer via mailop wrote:
On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 07:57:09AM +0100, Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop wrote:
Is there some way to identify the host IPs which are
used by those cloud servers, so one could block incoming SMTP from them if
Microsoft can't be bothered to
On Sun, 11 Feb 2024, Sebastian Nielsen via mailop wrote:
because SPF is too easy to forge.)
Wrong. When a shared space is used, its up to that particular space,
to enforce so customers cannot use other customer’s email addresses.
Since some of these shared spaces have demonstrated that
On Wed, 7 Feb 2024, Atro Tossavainen via mailop wrote:
Otherwise you need to stop using Spamhaus -- even if you sign-up,
perhaps because of the query volume, you still must query them
directly not via a public resolver.
This is not true.
One of the main points of DQS is that the DNS service
On Thu, 1 Feb 2024, Scott Undercofler via mailop wrote:
I'm replying on list for visibility. The issue you’re seeing is
directly related to SMTP smuggling which was discussed on list ad
nauseam about a month ago. The servers at shaw are configured to
reject non-RFC bare linefeeds. Can you
On Sun, 14 Jan 2024, Mark Alley via mailop wrote:
This is anecdotal, but I think it illustrates even at a
smaller scale the persistent problem Microsoft currently has
with their tenancy.
I did some quick perusal of the last month's data from our
email logs, and out of a total of 22,473
On Sat, 13 Jan 2024, Benny Pedersen via mailop wrote:
Andrew C Aitchison via mailop skrev den 2024-01-13 07:16:
[ Wearing an MTA developer's hat. ]
+1
I see that an MTA is supposed to remove existing Authentication-Results and
BIMI-Indicator headers, and that generally an MUA may use
[ Wearing an MTA developer's hat. ]
I see that an MTA is supposed to remove existing Authentication-Results
and BIMI-Indicator headers, and that generally an MUA may use these
headers if present.
I presume that most MTAs only add these headers on delivery, but if a
non-compliant MTA
On Wed, 10 Jan 2024, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote:
As the OP has written, the only ones that may be interested in this may be
marketers. Nobody else needs any logos, avatars etc. displayed alongside the
email headers. There is a reason why the early attempt at this - I'm talking
about the
On Wed, 10 Jan 2024, Olga Fischer via mailop wrote:
Hi mailops,
I am new here because I want to collect some opinion.
Many bigger mailers are blogging about BIMI.
As far as I see its exclusively for brands.
It has 2 big barriers for entry:
- Expensive bespoke cert oids
- Registered trademark
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023, Slavko via mailop wrote:
Hi,
recently i see messages from this ML rejected by my MTA, due
malformed To: header (from postmas...@inter-corporate.com):
To: mailop@mailop.org
AFAIK, the display name have to be quoted (@ char in it), thus
my MTA is right, but...
Please,
On Thu, 21 Dec 2023, John R Levine via mailop wrote:
On Thu 21/Dec/2023 10:37:52 +0100 John Levine via mailop wrote:
Yes, your code should handle them. No, that doesn't mean you should sign
with them.
Yup. The question was why Gmail doesn't /verify/ ed25519 signatures.
Answering that they
On Sun, 17 Dec 2023, Marco Moock via mailop wrote:
Am 16.12.2023 um 16:07:19 Uhr schrieb Jarland Donnell via mailop:
Obligatory: We don't intend to send any email their way that could be
perceived as unsolicited, but our users do use forwarders and we'll
never completely match their filters.
On Sun, 19 Nov 2023, Bill Cole via mailop wrote:
On 2023-11-19 at 06:59:37 UTC-0500 (Sun, 19 Nov 2023 12:59:37 +0100)
Alessandro Vesely via mailop
is rumored to have said:
I don't think someone can drop almost all mail and still call itself a mail
server.
Were you running a mail system in
On Sat, 11 Nov 2023, Carsten Schiefner via mailop wrote:
Hi Andrew,
Am 11.11.2023 um 14:25 schrieb Andrew C Aitchison via mailop
:
[…]
I guess we need to look at ClientID
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-storey-smtp-client-id/ (SMTP)
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-yu-imap
On Sat, 11 Nov 2023, Bjoern Franke via mailop wrote:
Hi,
... I have not been aware of the fact that *ALL* apps actually might be
doing this.
It was just recently that I looked for alternative iOS mail apps - and
"phoning home" credentials got noted only for the Spark app.
This seems to be
On Fri, 10 Nov 2023, Carsten Schiefner via mailop wrote:
Folks,
sort of triggered by Benoit's recent and absolutely
spot-hitting rant about Microsoft's inability resp.
unwillingness to appropriately deal with spam complaints, I
thought I should share this article:
Microsoft lays hands on
On Sun, 29 Oct 2023, pgnd via mailop wrote:
Is that domain the same as you post here from? I ask, because your
email was signed only by one key and you mentioned dualsign previously.
nope. _this_ is not sent from one of my own servers.
all my mails from all my servers are dual signed.
as
On Mon, 9 Oct 2023, Simon Arlott via mailop wrote:
On 09/10/2023 07:44, Kirill Miazine via mailop wrote:
The reason for a long retry is that I have to manually decrypt mailstore
partition in case of server reboot. Exim would accept the message, but
defer delivery until the mount appears. I
On Thu, 5 Oct 2023, Bernardo Reino via mailop wrote:
On Thu, 5 Oct 2023, Slavko via mailop wrote:
Dňa 2. 10. o 18:34 Brandon Long via mailop napísal(a):
I've raised a bug to take a look, this looks like a too broad dkim replay
rule.
I am not sure if that is the same, but in last two days
On Tue, 3 Oct 2023, Faisal Misle via mailop wrote:
We noticed (and looks like so did our counterparts at Dmarcian) that
Google has not been sending DMARC reports since last week.
I haven't had a dmarc report from google since 25 Sept either,
but they did sent a tls report for 30 Sept.
--
On Sat, 30 Sep 2023, Carsten Schiefner via mailop wrote:
Hi Simon,
On 30.09.2023 10:18, Simon Arlott via mailop wrote:
On 30/09/2023 08:50, Andrew C Aitchison via mailop wrote:
I see that there is an Exim release candidate out on test at the moment
https://lists.exim.org/lurker/message
On Sat, 30 Sep 2023, Jay R. Ashworth via mailop wrote:
I haven't even heard exim *mentioned* in like 20 years; these stats can't be
right, can they?
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/millions-of-exim-mail-servers-exposed-to-zero-day-rce-attacks/
On Sat, 30 Sep 2023, Andrew C Aitchison wrote:
On Sat, 30 Sep 2023, Jay R. Ashworth via mailop wrote:
I haven't even heard exim *mentioned* in like 20 years; these stats can't
be right, can they?
On Fri, 29 Sep 2023, Philip Paeps via mailop wrote:
On 2023-09-28 03:13:27 (+0800), Mike Hillyer via mailop wrote:
Breaking news, Microsoft is pulling the trigger on DANE next year:
Implementing Inbound SMTP DANE with DNSSEC for Exchange Online Mail Flow
This is good news. Hopefully this
On Fri, 15 Sep 2023, Damon Sauer via mailop wrote:
Good Morning!
Just an FYI to the mailop community,
We are warming up:
(in progress) 38.152.90.0/24 starting with 38.152.90.0/26
38.154.122.128/28
38.154.109.32/27
# whois 38.152.90.1
output includes:
NetRange: 38.152.0.0 -
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023, Ángel via mailop wrote:
On 2023-08-24 at 14:29 -0400, postfix--- via mailop wrote:
(...)
Needless to say: I will avoid restaurants using OpenTable, whether
while visiting destinations or at home. If they cannot choose a
service provider that is respectful of my choices,
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023, Mike Hillyer via mailop wrote:
From: mailop On Behalf Of Taavi Eomäe via mailop
Does anyone here have any familiarity with antivirus/anti-phish
vendors that can or are meant to be used with email?
I've checked the rspamd external services page
On Wed, 12 Jul 2023, Michael Peddemors via mailop wrote:
And yes, email forwarding will break.. but email forwarding remotely should
be killed off anyways.. everyone can log into two accounts.
Universities would like to allow the world to contact staff who have
recently left. We forward
On Wed, 12 Jul 2023, ml+mailop--- via mailop wrote:
On Wed, Jul 12, 2023, Andrew C Aitchison via mailop wrote:
Please could you indicate who you are and,
Why?
Sorry, I meant to ask for a name or an alias.
Why ?
Because I don't believe that "the paranoid curmudgeon from esmtp.org&quo
Please don't Cc: me, use only the list for replies, even
if the mailing list software screws up the Reply-To header.
___
mailop mailing list
mailop@mailop.org
https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop
Please could you indicate who you are and,
if
On Fri, 23 Jun 2023, Carsten Schiefner via mailop wrote:
Hi, Luke (& all) -
how about elaborating a bit further on the whats and whys of your setup?
Because at first sight it is indeed a bit hard to understand why SendGrid may
not be in a position to follow the RFCs and the thereof derived
On Sun, 18 Jun 2023, Alessandro Vesely via mailop wrote:
On Fri 16/Jun/2023 22:41:39 +0200 Gellner, Oliver via mailop wrote:
On 16.06.2023 at 16:13 Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote:
[...]
So at least one (and important one, given the size of this mail service)
implementation of DMARC does not
On Tue, 13 Jun 2023, Sander Smeenk via mailop wrote:
Long time lurker here. Ran into an issue where one of my customers is
sending mail with the sender- and header-from domain capitalized:
foou...@example.tld.
This seems to break DMARC checks on certain receivers.
The domain has all the bells
On Fri, 9 Jun 2023, Gellner, Oliver via mailop wrote:
On 09.06.2023 at 09:36 Alessandro Vesely via mailop wrote:
RFC 6652 provides for setting ra= and rr= tags, which are
themselves flagged as errors by most SPF checking sites...
Does someone use those SPF tags or has any practical
On Fri, 9 Jun 2023, Alessandro Vesely via mailop wrote:
On Fri 09/Jun/2023 07:37:06 +0200 Benoît Panizzon via mailop wrote:
If you don't care enough to publish a valid SPF record, why should we
think you care whether we deliver your mail?
The customer in question used an ESP to send
On Fri, 26 May 2023, Scott Mutter via mailop wrote:
If you ask me - a better solution would be to do away with forwarding
completely and incorporate POP checks, like Gmail does. This alleviates
all of the issues with forwarding mail in relation to SPF and DKIM.
What happens when I send a
On Mon, 8 May 2023, Michael Rathbun via mailop wrote:
As a deliverability dude as well as an administrator of a small
receiving system, I normally urge 1 message per session.
I can see that that could be good advice to a sender, but as
an administrator of a small receiving system I don't see
On Fri, 14 Apr 2023, John Levine via mailop wrote:
SRS never made it into the IETF standards, by the way, because the
problem it was supposed to solve (forwarding delayed bounces) did
not actually exist.
Since today is Friday ...
I was just re-reading
On Fri, 14 Apr 2023, Cyril - ImprovMX via mailop wrote:
Hi!
What is the best approach when you receive an email that doesn't respect
the SPF (with a hard fail)?
I'm asking because we've been running ImprovMX for a few years now and the
decision we took was that if you send us an email with a
On Tue, 4 Apr 2023, Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop wrote:
Those two cloud providers are currently providing 99% of the incoming spam at
one site.
googleusercontent.com sends a never-ending flood of DHL phishing mails.
linodeusercontent.com sends unsolicited ad crap using a domain
On Sat, 25 Mar 2023, Slavko via mailop wrote:
Dňa 25. marca 2023 17:11:48 UTC používateľ Andrew C Aitchison via mailop
napísal:
On Sat, 25 Mar 2023, Grant Taylor via mailop wrote:
I never understood different envelope senders for each attempt of a given
message. -- I can see different
On Sat, 25 Mar 2023, Grant Taylor via mailop wrote:
I never understood different envelope senders for each attempt of a given
message. -- I can see different envelope senders per message, a la. VERP.
But I would naively expect each message to have a fixed envelope sender and
recipient from
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023, Michael Peddemors via mailop wrote:
On 2023-02-28 08:00, Mark E. Jeftovic via mailop wrote:
Hey all,
Looks like customers trying to forward email from their own domains
here, to their O365 mailboxes are getting throttled with:
Stop 'remote forwarding'... simple..
On Fri, 24 Feb 2023, Alessandro Vesely via mailop wrote:
On Fri 24/Feb/2023 18:41:34 +0100 Christine Borgia via mailop wrote:
I also should have mentioned we use shared IPs so there is no issue with
volume from our servers, however volume from the domain is definitely
spikey. They only send
On 2/22/23 12:32, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote:
I have also one more idea. Remember the old "POP-before-SMTP"
approach from the times there was no SMTP AUTH yet? I have observed
that the password-cracking bots are heavily attacking submission
services, while relatively very rarely trying to
On Fri, 3 Feb 2023, Ken Simpson via mailop wrote:
To help Cyren customers, MailChannels is offering free access to the
MailChannels content filter API, which accurately filters billions of
messages for tens of millions of users and millions of domains within our
transactional email service. 43%
On Sun, 8 Jan 2023, Andrew C Aitchison via mailop wrote:
On Sun, 7 Jan 2023, John Levine via mailop wrote:
But more to the point, why do you care? The number of phones these
days that can get SMS but not email rounds to zero, so if someone
wants to send you mail, they can send you mail
On Sun, 7 Jan 2023, John Levine via mailop wrote:
But more to the point, why do you care? The number of phones these
days that can get SMS but not email rounds to zero, so if someone
wants to send you mail, they can send you mail and don't need to fool
around with a flaky gateway.
At least
On Sat, 6 Jan 2023, John Levine via mailop wrote:
If it's not worth 1c to get your messages out, perhaps this would be a
good time to reconsider why exactly you're sending them in the first
place.
If only we could say that to spammers.
--
Andrew C. Aitchison Kendal, UK
On Wed, 7 Dec 2022, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote:
Obviously it is done this way only to discourage people from unsubscribing.
They know the address they sent mail to, so they could easily generate a
personalized unsubscribe link that is connected with this particular address
and allows to
On Wed, 23 Nov 2022, Tobias Fiebig via mailop wrote:
We can have an awful lot of discussions about this, and there is
a lot going on; Besides the obvious 'is it good or not' and 'is
this really science?', we essentially deal with 'science' with
all its incentives (publish or perish); This means
On Thu, 10 Nov 2022, MRob via mailop wrote:
Recent I saw a link in a spam which wanted to phish credential:
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto=en=en=ipfs.io/ipfs//index.html?submit=@=webapp
Google translate shows a live page the user can input data into so
effectively google is
On Mon, 31 Oct 2022, Grant Taylor via mailop wrote:
Aside: Check out SPFBL's allow list service. I spent the one-time $3 per
IP to list my two VPSs. I consider the price low enough that it's
reasonable for me as an individual to be able to do. Read: It's within
my reach.
I don't like
On Sun, 23 Oct 2022, Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM) via mailop wrote:
If you're running OpenSMTPD (such as an OpenBSD system),
here's how to return the favour to t-online.
In smtpd.conf, before any of your 'listen' statements, add:
filter dtag phase mail-from match rdns regex
On Wed, 19 Oct 2022, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote:
Dnia 19.10.2022 o godz. 18:55:29 Kai 'wusel' Siering via mailop pisze:
It would be less of an issue if t-online.de would take care _not_ to send
to domains they don't take the replies from; but they happily sent emails
to any MX in the
On Sun, 2 Oct 2022, Arek Patyk via mailop wrote:
Hi,
I have my company domain hycom dot pl hosted on microsoft o365
exchange online for 7 years. Last week google servers stopped
accepting our mails. During last few days I got:
550 5.7.350 Remote server returned message detected as spam -> 550
On Fri, 30 Sep 2022, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote:
Dnia 29.09.2022 o godz. 15:39:49 Brandon Long via mailop pisze:
But exactly because TLS is a TLD, which means both bad and good actors can
register under it, you should not treat a whole TLD (any TLD) as a spam
source.
You should conside
On Thu, 15 Sep 2022, Dan Mahoney (Gushi) via mailop wrote:
All,
I'm attempting to get a point release of OpenDKIM out that should include ecc
key support (it's been in our develop branch for a while).
In doing the cleanup, I also have had to modernize it to play nice with
modern versions
On Wed, 14 Sep 2022, Matthias Leisi via mailop wrote:
The open source eco-system has failed to produce useful alternatives to
Outlook/Exchange(Online) or GSuite.
Never having had to use either in anger, or had the perspective of an SMB,
what is missing from the open source offerings ?
As far
On Mon, 12 Sep 2022, Brandon Long via mailop wrote:
On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 3:11 PM Jay Hennigan via mailop
wrote:
Why has Google recently made so painfully difficult for the rest of the
Internet to make them aware of Gmail-originated spam?
Why do you think this is recent? AFAIK Google
On Mon, 5 Sep 2022, Atro Tossavainen via mailop wrote:
Regarding the above, I have the following question:
What do you (and maybe other people on the list) think about such email
verification method ("abusing RCPT TO") used as part of:
a) mail receiving process - I'm thinking here for example
On Sun, 4 Sep 2022, Radek Kaczynski via mailop wrote:
Thanks to members of this group I learned that
we still have a homework to be done if it comes to transparency, and
making it easier to folks like you to easily identify us.
I hate the fact that this topic has stolen so much time and
On Fri, 19 Aug 2022, Christopher Hawker via mailop wrote:
Hello Benoit,
What mail client is being used, that doesn't support Oauth2?
Benoit seems to be talking about "tools" more than "programs" or "apps",
so I am not sure that his problem is just mail clients, but likely also
includes
On Wed, 3 Aug 2022, Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop wrote:
Disabling support for less secure transport encryption protocols
doesn't increase security if the senders can then switch to
unencrypted transport as a fallback.
We seem to be assuming that this is about protecting the current message.
On Wed, 3 Aug 2022, Grant Taylor via mailop wrote:
On 8/3/22 6:26 AM, Taavi Eomäe via mailop wrote:
Lastly, RFC8314 (re)defines port 465 as implicit TLS SMTP submission port.
Implicit TLS is considered a significantly better approach than upgrading
connections. Do you support that?
There
On Wed, 3 Aug 2022, Sidsel Jensen via mailop wrote:
Hi MailOps
We were having a discussion on the possibility to disable TLS 1.0
and 1.1 for MTA to MTA communication, and based on the numbers we've
seen so far, it doesn't look that far fetched.
What's the common consensus in the mail
On Fri, 29 Jul 2022, Justin Scott via mailop wrote:
Interestingly any email "operator" with fewer than 500 employees or less
than $5 billion in annual revenue is exempt, so clearly targeted at the
major providers and not self-hosted operators or small hosting companies,
thankfully.
Yes, but
On Mon, 25 Jul 2022, WIlliam Fisher via mailop wrote:
I'm tracking an issue where it looks like either AOL or Yahoo is inserting an
extra line break in the middle of the headers and throwing off some
client parsing.
Has anyone else seen similar?
How long was the line which got split ?
On Sun, 9 Jan 2022, Atro Tossavainen via mailop wrote:
The basic problem is allowing an ESP customer to import a list that
existed before the customer became a customer of this ESP. I can't
think of an ESP that would not allow that.
I saw this again as someone replied to it.
Sadly, there is
On Sun, 10 Jul 2022, Anne Mitchell via mailop wrote:
On Jul 9, 2022, at 8:15 PM, Brett Schenker via mailop wrote:
Just put it all in quarantine. It only requires reporting on how much is going
to spam. Reporting 0 would technically be correct since quarantine is different.
Or a 'Political'
On Mon, 4 Jul 2022, Edwardo Garcia via mailop wrote:
Halo,
What are we using this days in replace opendkim which is long broken
abandonware?
For anyone using Exim, there is builtin support (in and out)
which does not use opendkim.
--
Andrew C. Aitchison Kendal, UK
On Fri, 1 Jul 2022, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote:
Dnia 1.07.2022 o godz. 10:00:00 Paul Smith via mailop pisze:
If you don't want to accept mail for a domain, usually, you'd accomplish
that by simply not having an MX record.
Not having a MX record AND not having an A record as well.
On Fri, 1 Jul 2022, Paul Smith via mailop wrote:
If you don't want to accept mail for a domain, usually, you'd accomplish that
by simply not having an MX record. Having an MX record which points nowhere
is odd, but not illegal - it just means that mail is undeliverable.
RFC7505 (still at
On Thu, 9 Jun 2022, Brandon Long via mailop wrote:
On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 8:55 AM Michael Peddemors via mailop <
mailop@mailop.org> wrote:
Yeah, when legit operators have to obfuscate their URL's, you know
something isn't working right..
We saw something similar, we send monthly payment
On Fri, 3 Jun 2022, Carlota Iglesias Martinez via mailop wrote:
Hi all,
Hope you are well. Does anyone here works or know how to contact
ClamAVNet? I have opened several tickets through their website but I
am not getting any response.
You could try
clamav-us...@lists.clamav.net
On Wed, 1 Jun 2022, Anne Mitchell via mailop wrote:
I *really* want to see the original email to which MDR is replying,
https://list.mailop.org/private/mailop/2022-June/08.html
Only available to members of the list, which includes you,
but suggests that you may need to remember your
On Mon, 30 May 2022, Jarland Donnell via mailop wrote:
For what it’s worth you are now the only person I can personally point to
and say “This person types their password every time their email client
refreshes instead of storing it in the app.”
That’s a painful process, especially for
On Sun, 8 May 2022, Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop wrote:
Am 08.05.22 um 15:27 schrieb Scott Mutter via mailop:
If you forward your mail to Google then Google is going to get your email.
If you give Google your POP password to retrieve mail, then Google is
going to get your email.
What more
On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 8:52 PM John Levine via mailop
wrote:
Until then, I tell people who ask me to forward mail to Gmail that if
they actually want to get the mail, I'll put it in a local mailbox and
they can tell Gmail to poll it with POP. That works quite well.
Yes, if you are happy to
On Fri, 6 May 2022, Grant Taylor via mailop wrote:
On 5/6/22 9:14 AM, Luis E. Muñoz via mailop wrote:
I think the response to those issues are in part the cause for the loop you
cleverly explained before.
Indeed.
These are the very issues that caused me to be disinclined to stand my ARC
On Fri, 29 Apr 2022, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote:
Dnia 29.04.2022 o godz. 12:08:13 Andrew C Aitchison via mailop pisze:
You wouldn't want to give anybody - be it Google or anybody else - login
credentials to your email account, would you?
In many organisations it is worse than
On Fri, 29 Apr 2022, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote:
Dnia 28.04.2022 o godz. 14:14:02 Dan Mahoney via mailop pisze:
I've told any of my users to not forward to gmail instead, but rather to
just use their pop-fetcher.
You wouldn't want to give anybody - be it Google or anybody else - login
On Wed, 27 Apr 2022, Simon Luger via mailop wrote:
Hi
i need this page from time to time.
caniuseapurchasedemaillist.com
# ping caniuseapurchasedemaillist.com
PING caniuseapurchasedemaillist.com (104.131.184.82) 56(84) bytes of data.
^C
--- caniuseapurchasedemaillist.com ping statistics ---
On Sun, 17 Apr 2022, Bill Cole via mailop wrote:
On 2022-04-16 at 23:12:19 UTC-0400 (Sun, 17 Apr 2022 05:12:19 +0200)
Paul Vixie via mailop
is rumored to have said:
> Bill Cole via mailop wrote on 2022-04-15 17:47:
> > Don't try to send mail to shabby mail operators with a domain that
> >
On Sun, 10 Apr 2022, Byron Lunz via mailop wrote:
I don't recall seeing any discussion in this thread about how to migrate
old email messages from a Google Workspace account to a different host.
Anyone have advice or suggestions on how to do that?
I haven't needed to do it myself but I
On Fri, 8 Apr 2022, Tara Natanson via mailop wrote:
A while back there was a thread about the best place to host small biz
domain email but I'm looking for something even smaller.
I've got my personal domain hosted on gmail. It's been there for more than
10 years and was grandfathered into
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