My proposal for how we are different is:
(Rough draft)
LibreOffice is a free software(free as in freedom) which respects your
freedom. You can run, study, modify, share and share the modified
versions. MS Office is nonfree software. Users do not control it. They
use this power over users to
On 31/12/21 5:45 am, Joshua Coppersmith wrote:
> I really am very pro-FOSS and pro-LO, but I want to interject a wet
blanket here regarding companies picking up FOSS and migrating to LO.
>
> I think the truth is, LO just isn't ready for that kind of prime-time.
Companies can customize it
On 30/12/2021 21:31, Ravi Dwivedi wrote:
On 30/12/21 8:06 pm, James Harking wrote:
Currently to replace the totality of Microsoft Office 365 takes around
5 or 6 applications I suspect which is a difficult ask given that you can
Can you please tell what challenges does a company have in
es in 15 years or so.
From: Ravi Dwivedi
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2021 4:49 PM
To: James Harking
Cc: TDF Marketing
Subject: Re: R: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Ideas wanted for "How we're
different" part of new LibreOffice website
On 31/12/21 4:10
On 31/12/21 4:10 am, James Harking wrote:
> My reason is to promote FLOSS software solutions that can realistically
> compete with Microsoft Office.
Let me put my question in a different way:
Why should a company choose a free software(or FLOSS) over Microsoft
Office?
(Different people can
Hi Ravi?
My reason is to promote FLOSS software solutions that can realistically
compete with Microsoft Office. Currently LibreOffice only provides a subset
of this functionality. If partnerships between FLOSS software products were
in place you could have a situation where this missing
On 31/12/21 4:02 am, James Harking wrote:
> What I am proposing is for those companies that are tied to Microsoft
> office have a migration, recommendation/best practice solution
provided by
> the greater FLOSS office desktop ecosystem.
What is the reason for your proposal?
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I'm not advocating for lots of different software to be included in a
single binary download, that would likely be unrealistic.
What I am proposing is for those companies that are tied to Microsoft
office have a migration, recommendation/best practice solution provided by
the greater FLOSS
On 31/12/21 3:22 am, James Harking wrote:
> A company will typically have many 'seats' that are purchased. They
will be
> going to a single vendor that will provide the totality of their office
> solution. There is a wealth of documentation on Microsoft Office/ 365
> configuration. Support is
On 31/12/21 3:10 am, James Harking wrote:
> I think you need to be realistic here, if you are going to continue
to use
> Microsoft Teams for video conferencing you would use the rest of the
> package also, correct me if wrong but there would be no cost benefit
for a
> business to not using
A company will typically have many 'seats' that are purchased. They will be
going to a single vendor that will provide the totality of their office
solution. There is a wealth of documentation on Microsoft Office/ 365
configuration. Support is typically easy to come by.
The integration of their
I think you need to be realistic here, if you are going to continue to use
Microsoft Teams for video conferencing you would use the rest of the
package also, correct me if wrong but there would be no cost benefit for a
business to not using Microsoft Office then?
While I appreciate your desire to
On 30/12/21 8:06 pm, James Harking wrote:
Currently to replace the totality of Microsoft Office 365 takes around 5 or
6 applications I suspect which is a difficult ask given that you can go to
one provider for a solution but if there is a recommended migration path
using a number of 'partner'
On 30/12/21 8:06 pm, James Harking wrote:
Hi Sophie,
What I'm trying to 'tease' out is that LibreOffice in its current form can
not be a replacement for Microsoft Office, but clearly it is central to
this. As an example I have never heard of Blue Mind.
I disagree. In case of video
On 30/12/21 7:09 pm, James Harking wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Here's hypothetical for you, I don't have direct contact with our desktop
> team but I do have some sway in decision making.
>
> Let's say we are a company with around 1000 Windows desktops, we
currently
> use Microsoft Office 365 and
Interesting. Thanks.
Met vriendelijke groet,
With kind regards,
Boudi van Vlijmen.
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e
> > <https://www.libreoffice.org> *
> > * Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data*
> >
> > ----------
> > *From:* James Harking
> > *Sent:* 30 December 2021 14:36
> > *To:* sophi
> > *Cc:*
; <https://www.libreoffice.org> *
> * Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data*
>
> --
> *From:* James Harking
> *Sent:* 30 December 2021 14:36
> *To:* sophi
> *Cc:* TDF Marketing
> *Subject:* Re: R: Re: [libreoffice-ma
r 2021 14:36
To: sophi
Cc: TDF Marketing
Subject: Re: R: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Ideas wanted for "How we're
different" part of new LibreOffice website
Hi Sophie,
What I'm trying to 'tease' out is that LibreOffice in its current form can
not be a replacement for Microsoft Off
Hi Sophie,
What I'm trying to 'tease' out is that LibreOffice in its current form can
not be a replacement for Microsoft Office, but clearly it is central to
this. As an example I have never heard of Blue Mind. What would go a long
way in my opinion is some guidance from the Document Foundation
Hi,
Le 30/12/2021 à 14:39, James Harking a écrit :
> Hi all,
>
> Here's hypothetical for you, I don't have direct contact with our desktop
> team but I do have some sway in decision making.
>
> Let's say we are a company with around 1000 Windows desktops, we currently
> use Microsoft Office 365
Hi all,
Here's hypothetical for you, I don't have direct contact with our desktop
team but I do have some sway in decision making.
Let's say we are a company with around 1000 Windows desktops, we currently
use Microsoft Office 365 and generally are happy with it, however license
costs are
On 30/12/21 4:52 pm, Italo Vignoli wrote:
> You are completely off-topic, messages on this mailing list must be
> strictly related to LibreOffice marketing.
I agree. Apologies for that. In the LibreOffice marketing context, I
would like to say that LibreOffice should not be integrated with
You are completely off-topic, messages on this mailing list must be
strictly related to LibreOffice marketing.
On 12/30/21 10:57, Ravi Dwivedi wrote:
On 30/12/21 12:18 pm, Clocked Modular wrote:
Ravi,
You are right about signal being a centralized service.
Is Jabber encrypted? Is there a
On 30/12/21 12:28 pm, Clocked Modular wrote:
> *Because email is an old and insecure first generation internet
protocol we
> will, **in time, stop** to use email. If you want to contact us and are
> not known with us, you can use the web contact form
>
On 30/12/21 12:18 pm, Clocked Modular wrote:
Is there a federated and encrypted alternative for
Signal?
Quicksy is exactly that-- a federated and encrypted replacement(not
alternative) for Signal.
I will write a blog post on Quicksy today to spread awareness. And also
on problems with
On 30/12/21 12:18 pm, Clocked Modular wrote:
Ravi,
You are right about signal being a centralized service.
Is Jabber encrypted? Is there a federated and encrypted alternative for
Signal?
Yes it is encrypted. See https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0384.html.
Android clients of Jabber encrypt
The Gnome community.
Met vriendelijke groet,
With kind regards,
Boudi van Vlijmen.
*Because email is an old and insecure first generation internet protocol we
will, **in time, stop** to use email. If you want to contact us and are
not known with us, you can use the web contact form
By the way,
Gnome uses Rocket.chat.
Met vriendelijke groet,
With kind regards,
Boudi van Vlijmen.
*Because email is an old and insecure first generation internet protocol we
will, **in time, stop** to use email. If you want to contact us and are
not known with us, you can use the web contact
Ravi,
You are right about signal being a centralized service.
Is Jabber encrypted? Is there a federated and encrypted alternative for
Signal?
Met vriendelijke groet,
With kind regards,
Boudi van Vlijmen.
*Because email is an old and insecure first generation internet protocol we
will, **in
On 28/12/21 3:32 pm, Clocked Modular wrote:
> I recommend integrating Signal into LibreOffice rather than email. We
> should look at Google and Apple for what the market is doing. Not the old
> dinosaurs like IBM and Microsoft are pointing the way, but they are.
You are recommending integrating
Hi Cor,
There in is the problem, too much choice is not helpful. It's easier to say
we give an institution a choice in the software they want to integrate
rather than provide a recommendation based on applications that works well
together to provide a more robust solution.
Migrations are clearly
James Harking wrote on 28/12/2021 09:12:
> Also mail clients often have a calendar and contacts function that are
> integrated. That is why I really think this is a short coming of
> LibreOffice currently.
One could also look from the other position: LibreOffice technology
allows to integrate
Hi again,
Your key identifier with iOS and Android is your email address. You mention
corporate and political world in the USA and EU, that's a very sizable
market indeed.
If you want migrations from Microsoft Office you need alternative
applications, you can't just have a void and say we no
Hi All,
I've worked in multinationals and for governments in Europe and the US. I
know how email dependent they are.
But I've also worked with Taiwan and Korean business. And 20 years ago
already they were moving to mobile.
Also, outside the old stile corporate and gov bubbles, most communication
Hi all,
I completely disagree that e-mail is a fading technology that will soon be
replaced. It is the only universal communication method realistically for
business outside of telephone calls. We after all are now using e-mail to
communicate on this mailing list.
I work in a large
Following Microsoft never was a good idea.
Until the mobile phone revolution, MS applied horde-control for their
marketing.
Now the horde goes largely their own way. Only western governments stay
behind.
Email is a fading out technology and is most of the time replaced by
smartphone based
Hi all,
I just responded to a question on the LibreOffice reddit thread regarding
if LibreOffice needs a Outlook like application.
https://www.reddit.com/r/libreoffice/comments/roj4m8/who_would_love_to_see_libreoffice_include_a/
It appears that the vast majority of responders think it does,
Paolo, thank you for focusing on this EU "angle", and to all the others for
so many and so rich interventions, IMO (y).
Portugal, as far as I know, and just to give easily observed data -
information/intel -, has been working in the area of interoperability,
since June 21, 2011.
>>
On 26/12/21 6:26 pm, Italo Vignoli wrote:
> MS Office documents carry 80% of all malware because they are
> intentionally complex, in order to perpetuate user lock-in (the more
> complex the document, the lower the chances that third party software
> such as LibreOffice is able to interoperate).
Great. Thanks.
Met vriendelijke groet,
With kind regards,
Boudi van Vlijmen.
*Because email is an old and insecure first generation internet protocol we
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I have been talking about this issue at events for the last 8 years,
online you can find presentations with plenty of data. I am preparing an
updated presentation which will be shared with community members in 2022
(will be speaking about this issue at FOSDEM).
On 12/26/21 17:38, Clocked
Interesting. Can we gather research to back this up?
Met vriendelijke groet,
With kind regards,
Boudi van Vlijmen.
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will, **in time, stop** to use email. If you want to contact us and are
not known with us, you can use
On 12/26/21 07:30, Ravi Dwivedi wrote:
On 13/12/21 7:17 pm, Paolo Debortoli wrote:
> A few facts:
>
> 1. MS Office documents carry 80% of all malware worldwide
What does this mean?
MS Office documents carry 80% of all malware because they are
intentionally complex, in order to perpetuate
On 13/12/21 7:17 pm, Paolo Debortoli wrote:
> A few facts:
>
> 1. MS Office documents carry 80% of all malware worldwide
What does this mean?
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On 13/12/21 7:17 pm, Paolo Debortoli wrote:
> Hi. Ms office Is not malware, but issues are clear about Company,
products, us law and so on. See:
>
https://www.computerworld.com/article/2881635/eu-parliament-blocks-new-outlook-apps-over-privacy-concerns.html
>
> but they control you, create
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