Re: [libreoffice-marketing] marketing conference call
Hi, I just created a Doodle poll - let me know when you are best available for a phone conference. ;-) http://www.doodle.com/uiidvmmxcp53r4xs Thanks Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 Fax: +49 8341 99660889 Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted.
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] marketing conference call
On Tuesday 12 Oct 2010 23:54:03 Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, I just created a Doodle poll - let me know when you are best available for a phone conference. ;-) http://www.doodle.com/uiidvmmxcp53r4xs Thanks Florian I must admit I find these things incredibly frustrating, They're always at a bloody awful time and voting is a waste of time because it just means it always suits the Europeans, I have to do it via IRC because the phone-in is limited in the number of countries and nothing in NZ, so it's a waste of time me being there. The problem then is that those of us who can't make it end up on the outer and we immediately have a two tier system within the project, those who can have input (Because of time zone, phone setups etc) and those who can only listen but are denied any significant input because everything has been done an dusted at speech speed and by the time we get to hear it (after having to download the sound file over very slow dialup) it's all ancient history and over with. I would like us to stick to using maillists or even IMs it may be slower but at least it's inclusive. GL -- Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant. INGOTs Assessor Trainer (International Grades in Open Technologies) www.theingots.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted.
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] marketing conference call
Le 2010-10-12 07:20, Graham Lauder a écrit : On Tuesday 12 Oct 2010 23:54:03 Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, I just created a Doodle poll - let me know when you are best available for a phone conference. ;-) http://www.doodle.com/uiidvmmxcp53r4xs Thanks Florian I must admit I find these things incredibly frustrating, They're always at a bloody awful time and voting is a waste of time because it just means it always suits the Europeans, I have to do it via IRC because the phone-in is limited in the number of countries and nothing in NZ, so it's a waste of time me being there. The problem then is that those of us who can't make it end up on the outer and we immediately have a two tier system within the project, those who can have input (Because of time zone, phone setups etc) and those who can only listen but are denied any significant input because everything has been done an dusted at speech speed and by the time we get to hear it (after having to download the sound file over very slow dialup) it's all ancient history and over with. I would like us to stick to using maillists or even IMs it may be slower but at least it's inclusive. GL I also agree with Graham, I am in Canada with approx. 5-6 hours behind European time (opposite of Graham). Mailists and IM would be my preferred way of communication if possible. Unfortunate as it may sound the advantages of having an international team are immense, the drawback is realtime meetings. Uh ... unless someone can fly us to a common destination for an afternoon. Anyone? LOL. You are all welcome to come to my house, and, it's Octoberfest here too! (Waterloo Canada) Cheers Marc -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted.
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] marketing conference call
I am in Canada with approx. 5-6 hours behind European time (opposite of Graham). Mailists and IM would be my preferred way of communication if possible. Unfortunate as it may sound the advantages of having an international team are immense, the drawback is realtime meetings. Uh ... unless someone can fly us to a common destination for an afternoon. Anyone? LOL. You are all welcome to come to my house, and, it's Octoberfest here too! (Waterloo Canada) I think a regional group addressing the US and Canada is one possible answer to this. Drew Jensen and a few others have been working to get this started--so, if you're not already a part of that, here's an invitation to join! -Ben Benjamin Horst bho...@mac.com 646-464-2314 (Eastern) www.solidoffice.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted.
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] marketing conference call
On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 11:50 -0400, Benjamin Horst wrote: I am in Canada with approx. 5-6 hours behind European time (opposite of Graham). Mailists and IM would be my preferred way of communication if possible. Unfortunate as it may sound the advantages of having an international team are immense, the drawback is realtime meetings. Uh ... unless someone can fly us to a common destination for an afternoon. Anyone? LOL. You are all welcome to come to my house, and, it's Octoberfest here too! (Waterloo Canada) I think a regional group addressing the US and Canada is one possible answer to this. Drew Jensen and a few others have been working to get this started--so, if you're not already a part of that, here's an invitation to join! Yes, I was calling it a US group but I could of, and perhaps really should of called it a North America Group...Canada, USA and Mexico. Drew -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted.
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] marketing conference call
Le 2010-10-12 12:04, Drew Jensen a écrit : On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 11:50 -0400, Benjamin Horst wrote: I am in Canada with approx. 5-6 hours behind European time (opposite of Graham). Mailists and IM would be my preferred way of communication if possible. Unfortunate as it may sound the advantages of having an international team are immense, the drawback is realtime meetings. Uh ... unless someone can fly us to a common destination for an afternoon. Anyone? LOL. You are all welcome to come to my house, and, it's Octoberfest here too! (Waterloo Canada) I think a regional group addressing the US and Canada is one possible answer to this. Drew Jensen and a few others have been working to get this started--so, if you're not already a part of that, here's an invitation to join! Yes, I was calling it a US group but I could of, and perhaps really should of called it a North America Group...Canada, USA and Mexico. Drew I OK with this. If we need to sub-divide even more I could help out with the Canadian sub-group. But yes, pooling our resources may be the right course for now. How have you organised this? Marc -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted.
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] marketing conference call
On Oct 12, 2010, at 12:04 PM, Drew Jensen wrote: On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 11:50 -0400, Benjamin Horst wrote: I am in Canada with approx. 5-6 hours behind European time (opposite of Graham). Mailists and IM would be my preferred way of communication if possible. Unfortunate as it may sound the advantages of having an international team are immense, the drawback is realtime meetings. Uh ... unless someone can fly us to a common destination for an afternoon. Anyone? LOL. You are all welcome to come to my house, and, it's Octoberfest here too! (Waterloo Canada) I think a regional group addressing the US and Canada is one possible answer to this. Drew Jensen and a few others have been working to get this started--so, if you're not already a part of that, here's an invitation to join! Yes, I was calling it a US group but I could of, and perhaps really should of called it a North America Group...Canada, USA and Mexico. Central America and the Caribbean are also considered parts of North America. Not sure if we have any folks active in those regions yet, though. -Ben Benjamin Horst bho...@mac.com 646-464-2314 (Eastern) www.solidoffice.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted.
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO North American group
On Tue Oct 12 2010 09:37:22 GMT-0700 (PDT) James Walker wrote: As I said I am all for this, Any suggestions on where to start. James Walker On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@openoffice.orgwrote: Thought is safer to have this on it's own discussion rather than hijacking the mktg conference call. Drew, Do we need to change the wiki? NA instead of US? Andy (La Mesa, CA) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted.
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO North American group
Le 2010-10-12 13:07, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit : Hello everyone, Le Tue, 12 Oct 2010 12:55:53 -0400, Drew Jensend...@baseanswers.com a écrit : On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 12:43 -0400, Benjamin Horst wrote: Thanks, Alexandro. Two possible starting points: request a new mailing list, or create a wiki page. Next step: brainstorm marketing activities and choose one or two to work on. Drew's been leading this so far, so he'll have the most background and can share his thoughts on what's next, too. -Ben Operative word there is so far...just trying to prime the pump. I did ask for a mailing list, but given that the wiki is up (didn't quite expect that)...maybe that isn't needed or maybe just a generic Events ML makes more sense. Opinions? Make use the wiki for sure? Absolutely. Finally - there is an iron in the fire already - but sine it involves another organization and isn't quite finalized yet, it's a bit premature to make a public announcement I think. I'll send one more email to the list that was assembled, adding the new names to it today - touch base with the steering committee, after some feedback from that email and see about getting to the spot where we can start planning this in the open, in the next couple of days. We can also set up a mailing list, sorry we've been a bit messy on that (next time request a wiki and we'll get you a mailing list :p) As a side note, I would rather like to see one specific group for the US market, because we've always been very, very weak there, even if it means have another group for Mexico and one for Canada, but I'm just a lousy European, so don't take my advice as an educated guess.. Best Charles. Drew Hi Charles: Maybe if we combined to start off as we are only 43 million people in Canada, pretty small compared to US and the sharing of marketing materials may make more sense with us. We can maybe split off later as we gain more tools/resources. We Canadians would be starting literally from point zero. Anyone from Mexico for an opinion? Was there a Mexican OpenOffice.org group? Marc -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted.
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO North American group
No there wasn't, there is a Spanish OOo that cover the Spanish speaking countries, however the idea is to basically have more speakers and people that can go to the US (or Canada) and give a presentation or speak about the product or provide other services. Also US has a huge Spanish market on certain areas like Florida, Texas and California. Marc Thanks Alexandro. The same could be said of Canada with English and French, although not as huge of a market obviously. So, should we pool our resources for now, just to start? It looks like Florian is ready to move on the mailist etc. Marc -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted.
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO North American group
I think pooling our resources for now would be the smart move, if the group gets big enough to warrant seperating then we can do that later. James On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote: No there wasn't, there is a Spanish OOo that cover the Spanish speaking countries, however the idea is to basically have more speakers and people that can go to the US (or Canada) and give a presentation or speak about the product or provide other services. Also US has a huge Spanish market on certain areas like Florida, Texas and California. Marc Thanks Alexandro. The same could be said of Canada with English and French, although not as huge of a market obviously. So, should we pool our resources for now, just to start? It looks like Florian is ready to move on the mailist etc. Marc -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.orgmarketing%2bh...@libreoffice.org List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted.
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] marketing conference call
On Tue Oct 12 2010 12:29:03 GMT-0700 (PDT) Graham Lauder wrote: On Wednesday 13 Oct 2010 05:01:31 Andy Brown wrote: I agree. This is something that OOo was lacking. From what I understand there use to be a MarCon in the region but not any more. Andy (La Mesa, CA) That was Ryan Singer and he's on the lists somewhere. Ryan put yer hand up! Did not realize that was Ryan. I have seen messages from him here and other places. Andy -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted.
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Ryan Singer ryan.sin...@gmail.com wrote: disc...@us.libreoffice.org is great. On Tuesday, October 12, 2010, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Hi, what mailing list name structure would you propose for the US group (and other groups for large regions)? Thought the preference was NorthAmerica and not US only. Mailing lists for the local projects will be @project.libreoffice.org, like disc...@de.libreoffice.org. I'm thinking about what we should set-up for US group. Either u...@libreoffice.org, or something like disc...@us.libreoffice.org? Trying to get some structure in, so any advice welcome. Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 Fax: +49 8341 99660889 Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.orgmarketing%2bh...@libreoffice.org List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. -- -- Ryan Singer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.orgmarketing%2bh...@libreoffice.org List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. -- *Alexandro Colorado* *OpenOffice.org* Español http://es.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted.
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group
guys, it's the 13th in parts of the world and the OO.o site started flying the 10th birthday colors - I really want to talk to a few friends over there at the moment. I don't think the project will come to grinding halt if we wait a few hours on this...OK -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted.
[libreoffice-marketing] Australia-New Zealand marketing group?
If someone thinks Canada is a small market, try Australia -- or New Zealand! Even together, we're not a large mob. On the other hand, we really don't fit in with the other English-speaking markets in many ways, and we do have relevant local events and organisations to consider, such as Linux.conf.au. So a local marketing group could be useful -- assuming there are enough of us to form a group. I am not offering to be a marketing contact; I'm much too busy with documentation, and I don't like talking being a media contact anyway. I do enjoy being a booth being at events and helping out behind the scenes, and of course as an opinionated senior citizen I can be relied on to offer my opinion (or in some cases, stir as we call it). Other than Graham Lauder from NZ, I have no idea how many Aus-NZ people are active here at TDF. I did notice Alex Fisher's strongly negative comments on the OOo Marketing list. Graham and others, what do you think? Cheers, Jean -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted.
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Australia-New Zealand marketing group?
On Wednesday 13 Oct 2010 14:12:19 Drew Jensen wrote: On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 10:34 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: Dave, that comment might be better made in the other thread about a US or North American marketing group, not this thread about ANZ--just so it doesn't get lost or overlooked. --Jean Now hold on there - didn't I see an email where you guys where going to annex Hawaii. I've been thinking about that, OK, but if you want HI, you gotta take Paw Paw, West Virginia also, we get Papua, New Guinea and an island to be named later. If you agree - then all that's left is the pinky shake. //anonymous coward Alright OKOKOK you can keep Hawaii just don't give us anything of west Virginia, we only wanted Hawaii for conference anyway, I was a Lost fan (until the last episode) and I just wanted to nosy about the beach to see if I could find the hatch. . -- Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant. INGOTs Assessor Trainer (International Grades in Open Technologies) www.theingots.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted.
