Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Free Libre are bad selling points

2011-01-02 Thread Tom Davies
In my country this is what people think of when they hear the word free. Anyone that hears the words free software will find that indistinguishable from freeware which is much more widely known but only as something that has caused a lot of problems. I am beginning to accept that maybe my

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Our goals?

2011-01-02 Thread Tom Davies
Marketing does have a broader definition within OpenSource projects but there are other lists for the 2 topics you marked as -1. Please refer non-Marketing issues to those lists. For example the 1st point was about improving the product and that is the job of the developer's list. They are

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Our goals?

2011-01-02 Thread Andreas Mantke
Hi Drew, *, Am Sonntag, 2. Januar 2011, 03:02:34 schrieb drew: (...) Actually I read your earlier email on this question, this morning, over coffee. It is a really great question and has a number of facets to it. I don't have a coffee yet ;-) I've thought about it most of the day, on and

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] selling points

2011-01-02 Thread Ian Lynch
On 2 January 2011 07:42, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Ok, if software freedom is going to be the only selling point we use then England, American and Australia are going to reject the product. However it might make most of Europe more accessible to LibreOffice. Regards from

[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [steering-discuss] contacting LibO and TDF domain holders

2011-01-02 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Please could someone with an official @documentfoundation.org email address please contact these 4 sites to let them know their training also covers LibreOffice? http://inpics.net/ http://documentation.openoffice.org/tutorials/index.html http://www.tutorialsforopenoffice.org/

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Free Libre are bad selling points

2011-01-02 Thread drew
Ubuntu has also grown in a similar time-frame to the point that in almost any newsagents you will see at least 1 magazine mentioning it or even carrying a full article about it. Where are the articles about OpenOffice? Well, IMO, the OpenOffice.org articles where the Linux articles.

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Free Libre are bad selling points

2011-01-02 Thread Italo Vignoli
Sorry, I am not used to be hard in mailing lists, but I would like to stop this thread as it is quite useless, for the reasons I have already tried to express in a more polite way in other messages and I will reiterate - for the last time - in this answer. On 1/2/11 3:43 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Marketing Budget

2011-01-02 Thread Dave Johnson
Excellent! Dave Johnson On Jan 2, 2011 10:11 AM, Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com wrote: I think we have to be clear, once and for all. We will not have a marketing budget, at least in 2011 and 2012. We will not have any money to spend on advertising and market research. If any, we will

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Free Libre are bad selling points

2011-01-02 Thread Tom Davies
Ok, the point i was making about Firefox was exactly as you stated. Free was not used as a usp. Firefox was sold on it's quality. Our product is also a better quality product than the one produced by those wonderful people at Richmond so why use a usp that has counted against us in my

[libreoffice-marketing] [OT] Where's the product roadmap?

2011-01-02 Thread Craig B. Olofson
Hello Happy New Year to all; I have been (more or less) lurking on the marketing and users lists for a couple of weeks so that I can understand the community's priorities as LibO nears its first official release. Now, I am postingto find a way to work with your community. Normally, to get

[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Making LibO Remarkable 2

2011-01-02 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2011-01-02 16:46, Sadiq S a écrit : My problem is another beast entirely. I am a highschool student and so of course are my peers. I know of only friend who uses OpenOffice, and this is because she doesn't like paying for MS Office suite and the hassle of pirating it. Not because it's free

[libreoffice-marketing] Re: LibreOffice Slogan

2011-01-02 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2011-01-02 21:26, Michael Wheatland a écrit : I love that adaption Charles. 'Have it your way ' gives a sense of freedom to adapt the tool to suit how you work. I much prefer it over 'Do what you want'. Also the latter, original slogan can and is often used as a dismissive insult if you read

[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Fwd: [libreoffice-documentation] Printed copy of Getting Started with LibreOffice 3.3]

2011-01-02 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2011-01-03 01:38, Marc Paré a écrit : Sounds like a great contribution to LibO. Could we include this in one of our official blogs? It would make more sense to have it on a blog and critique it. Maybe ask Hal Parker for a free copy? One of our documentation team members could have a look