Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

2014-12-27 Thread Adolfo Jayme Barrientos
2014-12-23 13:12 GMT-06:00 Jean-Francois Nifenecker jean-francois.nifenec...@laposte.net: OMG! Did you *actually* have a look a MS templates? They CAN'T (sorry for shouting) be used as they are in any other context than an american one. I love your sarcasm. Can’t we stop seeing issues where

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

2014-12-24 Thread Sophie
Hi Jean-François, Le 23/12/2014 20:03, Jean-Francois Nifenecker a écrit : Hello Sophie all, Le 22/12/2014 15:13, Sophie a écrit : so are you volunteering to write that manual and document the templates or are you only ranting on those who are currently trying and are doing something?

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

2014-12-23 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
Hello Sophie all, Le 22/12/2014 15:13, Sophie a écrit : so are you volunteering to write that manual and document the templates or are you only ranting on those who are currently trying and are doing something? of course not: it's up to the template maker to document his/her work. What I

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

2014-12-23 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
Hi Charles, I guess you took my words way too personnally. Or I couldn't explain myself clearly enough. So let me rephrase it. Le 22/12/2014 15:27, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit : Yes, but as you know in French, criticism is easy, action is more difficult. So I would have guessed you would have

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

2014-12-23 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
Hello Milan, Le 22/12/2014 15:27, Milan Bouchet-Valat a écrit : I don't understand what's so country-specific in a template. AFAIK MS Office does not ship different templates in the US and in Europe. Cannot templates be made mostly country-neutral if contributors are asked to avoid adding too

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

2014-12-23 Thread Milan Bouchet-Valat
Le mardi 23 décembre 2014 à 20:12 +0100, Jean-Francois Nifenecker a écrit : Hello Milan, Le 22/12/2014 15:27, Milan Bouchet-Valat a écrit : I don't understand what's so country-specific in a template. AFAIK MS Office does not ship different templates in the US and in Europe. Cannot

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

2014-12-23 Thread jonathon
On 23/12/14 19:03, Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote: IOW, providing a template without documenting it is stupid. Using MSO as an example, I've noticed that the more expensive the template, the more likely the only documentation is simply a list of material produced by other people and

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

2014-12-22 Thread Sophie
Hi Marc, Le 20/12/2014 14:59, Marc Paré a écrit : [...] Phew ... coming in really late on this discussion and having read the other recent comments elsewhere, I also agree with KJ that there is no need to hurry. IMO, better to give people enough lead time and time to develop nice templates

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

2014-12-22 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
Hi, Le 22/12/2014 10:40, Sophie a écrit : We often worry about lack of community involvement, but, when there is a wonderful occasion where community involvement with such a contest where there is a low-entry level of understanding of LibreOffice and where template usage is directed towards

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

2014-12-22 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hi, On 22 décembre 2014 14:15:37 CET, Jean-Francois Nifenecker jean-francois.nifenec...@laposte.net wrote: Hi, Le 22/12/2014 10:40, Sophie a écrit : We often worry about lack of community involvement, but, when there is a wonderful occasion where community involvement with such a contest

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

2014-12-22 Thread Sophie
Hi, Le 22/12/2014 14:31, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit : Hi, On 22 décembre 2014 14:15:37 CET, Jean-Francois Nifenecker jean-francois.nifenec...@laposte.net wrote: Hi, Le 22/12/2014 10:40, Sophie a écrit : We often worry about lack of community involvement, but, when there is a wonderful

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

2014-12-22 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
Hello Charles all, Le 22/12/2014 14:31, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit : True and it is dangerous since it could show some spontaneity and community involvement. We surely do not want that ;-) uh ? What would be the standard for such a template? Of course I haven't got the answer 'cause I

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

2014-12-22 Thread Kevin Suo
I think you may be interested in this feature request then: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86483 于 2014年12月22日 GMT+08:00PM9:15:37, Jean-Francois Nifenecker jean-francois.nifenec...@laposte.net 写到: Hi, Le 22/12/2014 10:40, Sophie a écrit : We often worry about lack of community

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

2014-12-22 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
Hello Sophie, Le 22/12/2014 14:37, Sophie a écrit : Yes and if you read the announcement or the discussions on the lists, you have noticed that it's a contest for en_US templates only. The risk being that those templates come to non-en_US users. well they are under a open source license,

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

2014-12-22 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
Hi Kevin, Le 22/12/2014 14:46, Kevin Suo a écrit : I think you may be interested in this feature request then: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86483 \o/ -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker - Bordeaux -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems?

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

2014-12-22 Thread Sophie
Hi, Le 22/12/2014 15:08, Jean-Francois Nifenecker a écrit : Hello Sophie, Le 22/12/2014 14:37, Sophie a écrit : Yes and if you read the announcement or the discussions on the lists, you have noticed that it's a contest for en_US templates only. The risk being that those templates come to

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

2014-12-22 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Le 22.12.2014 15:02, Jean-Francois Nifenecker a écrit : Hello Charles all, Le 22/12/2014 14:31, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit : True and it is dangerous since it could show some spontaneity and community involvement. We surely do not want that ;-) uh ? What would be the standard for such a

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

2014-12-22 Thread Milan Bouchet-Valat
Le lundi 22 décembre 2014 à 15:36 +0100, Sophie a écrit : Hi, Le 22/12/2014 15:27, Milan Bouchet-Valat a écrit : Le lundi 22 décembre 2014 à 15:13 +0100, Sophie a écrit : Hi, Le 22/12/2014 15:08, Jean-Francois Nifenecker a écrit : Hello Sophie, Le 22/12/2014 14:37, Sophie a écrit :

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

2014-12-22 Thread Sophie
Le 22/12/2014 15:40, Milan Bouchet-Valat a écrit : Le lundi 22 décembre 2014 à 15:36 +0100, Sophie a écrit : Hi, Le 22/12/2014 15:27, Milan Bouchet-Valat a écrit : Le lundi 22 décembre 2014 à 15:13 +0100, Sophie a écrit : Hi, Le 22/12/2014 15:08, Jean-Francois Nifenecker a écrit : Hello

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

2014-12-22 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 8:31 AM, Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote: True and it is dangerous since it could show some spontaneity and community involvement. We surely do not want that ;-) +1 for community involvement I'm not sure users are aware of all the needed

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

2014-12-22 Thread Sophie
Hi Robinson, Le 22/12/2014 17:03, Robinson Tryon a écrit : On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 8:31 AM, Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote: True and it is dangerous since it could show some spontaneity and community involvement. We surely do not want that ;-) +1 for

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

2014-12-22 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Ahh, just seen the announcement :) T-shirts sounds like better prizes to me for something like this. The t-shirts are much more unique and personal. My main points were; 1. Having some place holder to invite users to contribute their own templates 2. allowing non-US templates to be

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

2014-12-15 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Charles, Charles-H. Schulz píše v Ne 14. 12. 2014 v 13:23 +0100: 3) who decides/votes The Design team at one of the weekly hangouts. The decision process will be simple - for each template that arrives, either a general consensus on the given template, or it is not included for

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

2014-12-15 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Pedro, Pedro Rosmaninho píše v Po 15. 12. 2014 v 11:47 +: Will this involve new templates for Impress? Because Impress is severely lacking in the template department... At the moment, I am most concerned about the Writer templates - because we have none :-) But of course, if we get

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

2014-12-15 Thread Pedro Rosmaninho
Will this involve new templates for Impress? Because Impress is severely lacking in the template department... Maybe we could send the call in e-mails to certain design groups involved with Linux to come with new templates (Numix, Mokka, Elementary, VDG...). On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Jan

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

2014-12-15 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi K-J, K-J LibreOffice píše v Ne 14. 12. 2014 v 18:57 +0100: 2) what categories do we define Authors of the templates propose the category, we'll then define the final categories according to the templates that arrive :-) Should we define some rules? E.g. branding or so? Specified

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

2014-12-14 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello Jan, Le Fri, 12 Dec 2014 12:40:51 +0100, Jan Holesovsky ke...@collabora.com a écrit : Hi Charles, all, Charles-H. Schulz píše v Čt 11. 12. 2014 v 10:50 +0100: What we must decide is the process itself. Very good questions. Because the time is extremely short for 4.4, we have

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

2014-12-12 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Charles, all, Charles-H. Schulz píše v Čt 11. 12. 2014 v 10:50 +0100: What we must decide is the process itself. Very good questions. Because the time is extremely short for 4.4, we have straightened this up so that we can publish the PR ASAP: 1) how do people register and upload their

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

2014-12-11 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello Jay, Adolfo, all, Indeed, I need to clarify a bit what I wrote yesterday: when I wrote that embedding templates inside LibreOffice or uploading them on the templates site did not make a difference, I meant that to me the workload or a strong opinion about what path is the best is not

[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

2014-12-10 Thread Adolfo Jayme Barrientos
Hi Charles-H., it is still mandatory that people release their work to the public domain, as it was the case in the last contest? That was my only gripe at the time, as IMHO it reduced both the quantity and quality of the work received. LibreOffice needs both new and fresh document templates .

[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

2014-12-10 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Le Wed, 10 Dec 2014 10:40:14 -0800, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com a écrit : Hey Milan, Le mercredi 10 décembre 2014 à 10:23 -0800, Joel Madero a écrit : On 12/10/2014 09:25 AM, Adolfo Jayme Barrientos wrote: Hi Charles-H., it is still mandatory that people release their work to

[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

2014-12-10 Thread Christophe Strobbe
Hi, On 10/12/2014 12:10, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: (...) LibreOffice needs both new and fresh document templates . Whether they are directly embedded and are shipped with LibreOffice or are available on our templates website is not really a topic, but interestingly enough the work done on the