Re: twitter and facebook forwarding from identi.ca stopped working?

2013-06-25 Thread Andre Klapper
On Tue, 2013-06-25 at 12:47 +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
 I sent a message via identica four days ago, but it seems it didn't 
 reach twitter and facebook.
 Anyone know what might be broken? Do I need to set anything specific on 
 Identica?

When did it work for the last time?
https://identi.ca/doc/pumpio ?

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Re: list of photos needed for annual report

2013-04-25 Thread Andre Klapper
On Thu, 2013-04-25 at 14:12 -0300, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
 Here is the list of photos (and their sizes in parenthesis) needed for 
 the annual report:
 Page 13: Bugsquad data or photo of some sorts (half page)

Could you elaborate (maybe on gnome-bugsquad@)? Also see
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2013-January/msg0.html

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Re: revised the press release

2013-03-22 Thread Andre Klapper
On Fri, 2013-03-22 at 15:56 +0100, Flavia Weisghizzi wrote:
 I'm sure we don't need to detail explain what GNOME is and what 
 GNOME makes: GNOME is THE leader in free software DE/project, and I'm 
 sure journalists know it.

I don't think so. :) Even if most journalists kind of know, their
readers might not necessarily so it's helpful to provide some reusable
info.

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Re: Revisiting rewards for the FoG campaigns

2013-02-12 Thread Andre Klapper
On Mon, 2013-02-11 at 13:58 -0700, Stormy Peters wrote:
 Also, given our current, rather manual, process for tracking and
 shipping and handling, it takes (Rosanna's) time to manage and ship
 too.

On a related note, how are Adopt a hacker postcard requests tracked
and handled currently? My inbox has been empty  I have ego problems to
accept the fact that people out there don't like me anymore. Oh yeah.

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Re: FOSDEM 2013 - GNOME Stand

2012-12-21 Thread Andre Klapper
On Fri, 2012-12-21 at 14:08 +0100, Tobias Mueller wrote:
  Will anyone organise a GNOME Beer Event?
 Hm. I haven't seen an email nor activity in the wiki.

https://live.gnome.org/GnomeEvents/FOSDEM/2013

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Re: GNOME infographics

2012-12-17 Thread Andre Klapper
On Mon, 2012-12-17 at 12:51 +0100, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
  https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2012/12/14/mozilla-in-2012/
  Text that gains no additional value by putting it into a graphic, just
  making it more colorful and less accessible.
 No, more accessible, because it looks nicer and is more enjoyable to 
 look at.

Not with a screenreader.

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Re: GNOME infographics

2012-12-16 Thread Andre Klapper
On Sat, 2012-12-15 at 22:42 +, Juanjo Marín wrote:
 I've recently read about a post about how the Mozilla project did this
 year. It has a nice infographic work and I think we can do something
 similar for GNOME news in december.
 Do we have data for doing a similar ?
 
 https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2012/12/14/mozilla-in-2012/

Text that gains no additional value by putting it into a graphic, just
making it more colorful and less accessible.

One could also query supported languages:
http://l10n.gnome.org/releases/gnome-3-6/
or number of git commits and authors...

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Re: GNOME Quarterly Reports

2012-12-15 Thread Andre Klapper
On Sun, 2012-10-14 at 20:40 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
 As feedback is often slow (needs several times of nagging) I'd like to
 know if quarterly reports are still supported and wanted by the
 community, or if we should think of a better format (e.g. merging with
 news or journal activities).

No answers, so I guess there is no interest.

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Re: scheduling FoG campaign call

2012-11-19 Thread Andre Klapper
On Mon, 2012-11-19 at 22:29 -0500, Karen Sandler wrote:
 I set up a dudle survey so we can hopefully find a time early next week to
 talk about the next Friends of GNOME campaign.

On a related note: Have the issues mentioned in
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2012-November/msg0.html
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2012-June/msg00084.html
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2012-June/msg00069.html
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2012-October/msg00102.html
been sorted out? 

I don't feel comfortable to launch a campaign if we end up with
disappointed people because our processes don't work out well.

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Re: 2012 Annual Report

2012-11-14 Thread Andre Klapper
On Wed, 2012-11-14 at 10:17 -0300, Daniel Galleguillos C. wrote:
 Hi all folks
 I've have been working in a sketch for the Annual report there is two
 designs options.

These looks awesome, but constantly using a dark background would not
make my printer's cartridge very happy (yes, I sometimes print such
stuff and don't read on screens only). Not sure if that's a valid
argument though when it comes to nice design.

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Re: community managers

2012-11-12 Thread Andre Klapper
On Mon, 2012-11-12 at 15:17 -0800, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
 But I am looking for some good people who can fill the role of
 community manager.  Clearly, we have a problem relating to our user
 base and some of the decisions have become more controversial than it
 needs to be.

Could you elaborate a bit more what you expect a community manager to
do, especially refering to GNOME?

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Re: [Usability] GNOME Quarterly Report Q3/2012

2012-10-15 Thread Andre Klapper
On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 17:43 -0500, Federico Mena Quintero wrote:
 Hmm, is there space for hackfests in the report?  There have been a
 number of really good hackfests and it would be a shame not to include
 them.

Sure, feel free to add an item on the wikipage. Problem might be to find
somebody to write a summary, but if you have folks in mind feel free to
go ahead and/or contact them!

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GNOME Quarterly Report Q3/2012

2012-10-14 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi everybody,

it's time again for a quarterly GNOME report to let community and
companies know what has been going on between July and September 2012.

Please update your section for Q3/2012 here:

  https://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/QuarterlyReports/2012/Q3


The list of potential teams and writers:

 * Board and Executive Director - Karen Sandler
 * Bugsquad - Andre Klapper
 * Release Team - Frederic Peters 
 * Membership and Elections Committee - Tobias Mueller
 * GNOME User Groups - ???
 * Accessibility Team - Alejandro Piñeiro Iglesias, Joanmarie Diggs
 * Outreach Program for Women - Marina Zhurakhinskaya
 * Localization - Petr Kovar
 * Documentation - Tiffany Antopolski?
 * Web - Andreas Nilsson?, Vinicius Depizzol?
 * Google Summer of Code 2012 - Daniel G. Siegel
 * Marketing - Emily Gonyer?
 * Sysadmin - Olav Vitters? / Andrea Veri?
 * Design - Allan Day?
 * Conference planning: GUADEC? - ???


If you do not have time, please consider delegating the task! 

There are some sections that do not have writers yet - please fill your
name in on the wiki if you could write a summary. It really does not
have to be long!

I also assume that every writer welcomes help and input (that's why I
also send this to corresponding mailing lists).

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GNOME Quarterly Reports

2012-10-14 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi,

we have quarterly activity reports for GNOME. 
Last version for April-June 2012 can be seen at
https://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/QuarterlyReports/2012/Q2 . Once
the wikipage is completed, Andreas turns this into a nice PDF file.

As feedback is often slow (needs several times of nagging) I'd like to
know if quarterly reports are still supported and wanted by the
community, or if we should think of a better format (e.g. merging with
news or journal activities).

Dave shared his thoughts here:
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2012-July/msg0.html

Comments?

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Re: Flattr

2012-09-29 Thread Andre Klapper
Was there any progress on this?

andre

On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 00:27 -0400, Karen Sandler wrote:
 On Wed, April 25, 2012 6:42 am, Andre Klapper wrote:
  Karen / Peter:
  Did this ever get an update (maybe off-list)?
 
 We never did ultimately get this sorted - there were some logistics to
 work out. Peter can we pick this up this week?
 
 I see that your charitable accounts page still says Software and other
 types of non profit organizations without a clear charitable cause.
 
 Regardless of whether we can get our own flattr account going it would be
 a huge help to the general cause of charitable software freedom to edit
 this sentence as we discussed :)
 
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Re: GNOME 3.6 release notes: Mallard!

2012-09-10 Thread Andre Klapper
On Mon, 2012-09-03 at 00:58 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote:
 Frederic Peters setup the 3.6 release notes to be in Mallard.
 My plan is to dump various stuff into the release notes, then clean it
 up afterwards. Currently the structure is around applications, not sure
 if that should be kept.

So far I liked reading through all the changes on one page (without
clicking forth and back), on the other hand it helps skipping sections
that people are less interested in.
So my feelings are mixed. :)

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Kicking off 3.6 Release Notes

2012-08-21 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi marketing team, hi release team,

it's about time to start preparing the 3.6 release notes.

Last time (see
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2012-March/msg00022.html
) several things were mentioned:
* Potentially move from Docbook format to Mallard or Wordpress
* Better integration with press release (buzzword synergy effects)

Any comments and volunteers for this? (I can only volunteer for setting
up the traditional Docbook skeleton, sorry.)

Allan, Emily, Olav and Sri have expressed potential interest in helping
to write the release notes. I will help with some bits but will have
less time than the last two times.

Helpful items might be
https://live.gnome.org/AndreKlapper/WritingReleaseNotes (please feel
free to edit!) and https://live.gnome.org/AndreKlapper/ReleaseNotes3

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Re: GNOME Quarterly Report Q2/2012

2012-08-20 Thread Andre Klapper
And the last reminder to please update your section for Q2/2012 here:

  https://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/QuarterlyReports/2012/Q2

Apart from Web, Documentation and Bugsquad everything is still missing.

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Re: Any chance to move your MLs to Google Groups?

2012-08-16 Thread Andre Klapper
On Thu, 2012-08-16 at 15:41 +0300, alex diavatis wrote:
 Gnome uses Twitter etc.

I see a difference here: Gnome uses Twitter, but it does not *rely* on
it, while mailing lists are a critical infrastructure part. 
Gnome could theoretically not use Twitter as there would be still
Identi.ca (free and open), Google Plus and Facebook for spreading short
messages.

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Re: Annual report - ready to print (almost)

2012-07-24 Thread Andre Klapper
On Mon, 2012-07-23 at 14:24 +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
 Print ready version is now on: 
 http://andreasn.myownb3.com/andreasn/annual-report.pdf

If still possible, the outdated Openismus company logo on page 13
should be replaced by one of these here:
http://www.openismus.com/press/logos/2009%20and%202010/

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Re: Annual report - ready to print (almost)

2012-07-21 Thread Andre Klapper
On Fri, 2012-07-20 at 03:56 +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
 Designed and ready, now ready for proof reading before we print it.
 http://andreasn.myownb3.com/temp/annual-report.pdf

On page 13, the Openismus logo is the old one.
I've attached the current one to this email.

Slightly surprised to see no author names listed somewhere, but maybe
that helps avoiding a blame game in the end. ;))

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GNOME Quarterly Report Q2/2012

2012-07-15 Thread Andre Klapper
***First reminder***

Hi everybody,

it's time again for a quarterly GNOME report to let community and
companies know what has been going on between April and June 2012.

Please update your section for Q2/2012 here:

  https://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/QuarterlyReports/2012/Q2


The list of potential teams and writers:

 * Board and Executive Director - Karen Sandler
 * Bugsquad - Andre Klapper
 * Release Team - Frederic Peters 
 * Membership and Elections Committee - Tobias Mueller
 * GNOME User Groups - ???
 * Accessibility Team - Alejandro Piñeiro Iglesias, Joanmarie Diggs
 * Outreach Program for Women - Marina Zhurakhinskaya
 * Localization - Petr Kovar
 * Documentation - Tiffany Antopolski?
 * Web - Andreas Nilsson?, Vinicius Depizzol?
 * Google Summer of Code 2012 - Daniel G. Siegel
 * Marketing - Emily Gonyer?
 * Sysadmin - Olav Vitters? / Andrea Veri?
 * Design - Allan Day?
 * Conference planning: GUADEC, GNOME.asia? - Will LaShell?


If you do not have time, please consider delegating the task! 

There are some sections that do not have writers yet - please fill your
name in on the wiki if you could write a summary. It really does not
have to be long!

I also assume that every writer welcomes help and input (that's why I
also send this to corresponding mailing lists).

We would like to finish the Q2 report before August 10, 2012.

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Re: New design Live Gnome

2012-06-09 Thread Andre Klapper
On Sat, 2012-06-09 at 20:51 +0300, alex diavatis wrote:
 Are you really gonna change live.gnome.org, or is just a wish list
 item?
 If yes, I can post it on our blog, and ask people to sent mockups. We
 have 5-6k unique a day so there is might a chance someone to help
 Elena.
 Small chance but is is still there :)

While the intention is good I am afraid that this would bring us back to
the start (plus adds some potential for bikeshed discussions), while
Elena's proposal has already seen and passed a few iterations.

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Re: GNOME Commit-Digest

2012-06-04 Thread Andre Klapper
On Mon, 2012-06-04 at 16:56 +0300, alex diavatis wrote:
 I was wondering how can extract the commits data from gnome git
  similar the way that http://blogs.gnome.org/commitdigest/ does, in
 order to make
 some html5 pies charts, just to compare the development per
 week/month/year/version.

Not sure what you want. The log entries? Just amounts of commits?
In general you can do a lot with git log in every module.

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Re: GNOME Commit-Digest

2012-06-04 Thread Andre Klapper
On Mon, 2012-06-04 at 17:15 +0300, alex diavatis wrote:
 I want the commits of all projects in gnome git, divided by
 week/month/year/version. 
 That means the last 7 days, the last 30 days and the last year and the
 commits that go in certain branches (i.e 3.0, 3.2, etc)

Reusing some of the commands in
http://people.gnome.org/~aklapper/guadec2010/git-modules.sh might save
you some time (warning: weird stuff I tried two years ago).

Also check https://projects.libresoft.es/projects/cvsanaly .

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LAST CALL: GNOME Quarterly Report Q1/2012

2012-05-20 Thread Andre Klapper
Last call for reports of the following teams:

* Board and Executive Director
* Outreach Program for Women
* Documentation
* Marketing
* Sysadmin

Please add your short report to 
  https://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/QuarterlyReports/2012/Q1
TODAY or it will NOT be included.

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Reminder: GNOME Quarterly Report Q1/2012

2012-05-02 Thread Andre Klapper
Reminder as no updates have taken place yet  deadline approaching.
Please take a few minutes to write a short summary on
https://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/QuarterlyReports/2012/Q1

Thanks a lot!,
andre

On Mon, 2012-04-16 at 16:21 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
 Hi everybody, 
 
 it's time again for a quarterly GNOME report to let community and
 companies know what has been going on between January and March 2012.
 
 Please update your section for Q1/2012 here:
 
   https://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/QuarterlyReports/2012/Q1
 
 
 The list of potential teams and writers:
 
  * Board and Executive Director - Karen Sandler
  * Bugsquad - Andre Klapper
  * Membership and Elections Committee - Tobias Mueller
  * GNOME User Groups - ???
  * Accessibility Team - Alejandro Piñeiro Iglesias, Joanmarie Diggs
  * Outreach Program for Women - Marina Zhurakhinskaya
  * Localization - Petr Kovar
  * Documentation - ???
  * Web - Andreas Nilsson, Vinicius Depizzol
  * Google Summer of Code 2012 - ???
  * Marketing - ???
  * Sysadmin - ???
  * Design - ???
  * Conference planning: GUADEC, GNOME.asia? - ???
 
 
 If you do not have time, please consider delegating the task! 
 
 There are some sections that do not have writers yet - please fill your
 name in on the wiki if you could write a summary. It really does not
 have to be long!
 
 I also assume that every writer welcomes help and input (that's why I
 also send this to corresponding mailing lists).
 
 We would like to finish the Q1 report before by May 11, 2012.
 
 Thanks for your help, 
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Re: Flattr

2012-04-25 Thread Andre Klapper
Karen / Peter:
Did this ever get an update (maybe off-list)?

andre

On Tue, 2011-11-08 at 12:57 -0500, Karen Sandler wrote:
 Hi Peter,
 
 I did go to register for an account for flattr, and was also going to
 apply for a nonprofit/charity account and I noticed this text in the FAQ,
 listing software organizations as not eligible for a nonprofit account:
 
  These will normally NOT get a charity account - Churches, Political
  parties, Sports, Culture, Events, Exhibitions, Software and other types
  of non profit organizations without a clear charitable cause.
 
 I understand that the other organizations that you list do not have a
 charitable cause as their primary goal, but that is not necessarily true
 about software organizations. The GNOME Foundation, like other charitable
 free software 501(c)(3) organizations, is dedicated to creating software
 in the public interest and creating a public work that increases access to
 technology for those who would not otherwise have it. We also advocated
 for the adoption of free and open source software for safety and for the
 betterment of society (check out my OSCON speech about the safety of
 software on implanted medical devices:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFZGpES-St8). Clearly we have a clear
 charitable cause, and our tax exempt status is predicated on that. I would
 understand excluding software trade associations (501(c)(6) organizations
 like the Eclipse Foundation or the Linux Foundation), but why all software
 organizations?  Free software orgs like GNOME obviously do have a clear
 charitable cause - that is how they are formed and also classed as such by
 the IRS.
 
 Is this one of the situations outside of what is normally done? Should we
 apply? Would you consider changing the wording of your FAQ to indicate
 that there are times when software organizations do have a charitable
 cause. Perhaps by saying ...and other types of organizations which are
 sometimes without a clear charitable cause?
 
 thanks for following up with us,
 Karen Sandler
 
 
 On Tue, November 8, 2011 10:11 am, Peter Ross wrote:
  Hi,
 
  My name's Peter Ross and I'm writing from Flattr, the micro-payments
  system.
 
  I was just looking at
  http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.marketing/7604 where your
  members seem to be interested in using Flattr to collect donations for
  Gnome.
 
  I was just wondering if there was anything I could do to help this process
  along.
 
  As I understand it, the plan is to use a Word Press plugin which shouldn't
  be too hard to implement. Also you need to register an account for Gnome,
  as there isn't currently one in Flattr.com.
 
  Both actions should be fairly straightforward to achieve.
 
  Please get back to me if you need anything or need any help in getting
  everything up and running.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Peter.
 
 
  Peter Ross
  Flattr - social micropayments
  www.flattr.com
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GNOME Quarterly Report Q1/2012

2012-04-16 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi everybody, 

it's time again for a quarterly GNOME report to let community and
companies know what has been going on between January and March 2012.

Please update your section for Q1/2012 here:

  https://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/QuarterlyReports/2012/Q1


The list of potential teams and writers:

 * Board and Executive Director - Karen Sandler
 * Bugsquad - Andre Klapper
 * Membership and Elections Committee - Tobias Mueller
 * GNOME User Groups - ???
 * Accessibility Team - Alejandro Piñeiro Iglesias, Joanmarie Diggs
 * Outreach Program for Women - Marina Zhurakhinskaya
 * Localization - Petr Kovar
 * Documentation - ???
 * Web - Andreas Nilsson, Vinicius Depizzol
 * Google Summer of Code 2012 - ???
 * Marketing - ???
 * Sysadmin - ???
 * Design - ???
 * Conference planning: GUADEC, GNOME.asia? - ???


If you do not have time, please consider delegating the task! 

There are some sections that do not have writers yet - please fill your
name in on the wiki if you could write a summary. It really does not
have to be long!

I also assume that every writer welcomes help and input (that's why I
also send this to corresponding mailing lists).

We would like to finish the Q1 report before by May 11, 2012.

Thanks for your help, 
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Re: Getting GNOME page on gnome.org

2012-04-02 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi,

On Mon, 2012-04-02 at 19:55 +0530, Akshay Vyas wrote:
 I think you are right but still there is one thing confusing me that
 is adding ubuntu
 because ubuntu is not using GNOME3 completely they aren't giving GNOME3 in
 their default distribution not even in ubuntu 12.04 ,as far as i know
 there is a package
 which an ubuntu user can install to get the GNOME look (an additional package)

See the initial email by Andreas:  http://www.gnome.org/getting-gnome/
links for Ubuntu to http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/gnome .
If there is something similar available for Linux Mint (easy steps or
even one click to get the default GNOME experience), Linux Mint could be
listed. 
As long as nobody tells us if something similar is available for Linux
Mint and what exactly it is, Linux Mint is not listed.

I hope that clarifies things. :)

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Re: Getting GNOME page on gnome.org

2012-04-02 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi,

On Mon, 2012-04-02 at 20:25 +0530, Akshay Vyas wrote:
 Linux mint is giving mgse with GNOME 3 and you can enable gnome 3 by
 disabling the extensions ie MGSE is just and extension provided by
 Linux Mint for reference
 im providing this link here http://www.linuxmint.com/rel_lisa_whatsnew.php and

Oh great, the sentence You can disable all components within MGSE to
get a pure Gnome 3 experience was what I was looking for. :)
Is there documentation somewhere with exact steps how to disable all
MGSE extensions (like Go to Blah  Foo and click Disable all
extensions) to get a pure GNOME 3 experience?
Because that is what we need. :)

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Re: Getting GNOME page on gnome.org

2012-03-31 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi Akshay,

On Sun, 2012-04-01 at 01:45 +0530, Akshay Vyas wrote:
 Missed linux mint,Linux mint also has GNOME3 in their main/base
 distribution and as
 far as i know it is most popular amongst the linux newbies

I must admit that I don't know much about recent Linux Mint developments
and decisions. I'd see the same problem as with Ubuntu (see below: By
default Ubuntu comes with something that is very different from what we
advertise on our websites) but I am happy to be proven wrong. :)
So in case that you know: Does Linux Mint 12 by default use gnome-shell,
or does it use MGSE, or other shells such as Mate (or Cinnamon in
version 13) by default? 
I've been quickly reading through http://blog.linuxmint.com/ but could
not find anything that makes it much clearer either to me.

andre

 2012/4/1 Juanjo Marín juanjomari...@yahoo.es:
 
 
 
 
  - Mensaje original -
  De: Andreas Nilsson andr...@andreasn.se
  Para: marketing-list marketing-list@gnome.org
  CC:
  Enviado: Sábado 31 de marzo de 2012 15:40
  Asunto: Getting GNOME page on gnome.org
 
  Hi!
  Shortly before the 3.4 release the web team made some adjustments to the 
  page
  http://www.gnome.org/getting-gnome/
  This made the links for Arch Linux, Mageia and Debian smaller. I feel some
  explaining of the rationale behind this is in order so that we don't end up
  with the same thing again within the next 6 months.
 
  We made this change so it would be more straight to get GNOME for the 
  largest
  share of website visitors possible. Taking aside the fact that it's a 
  fairly
  complicated business to get yourself a working GNOME 3 system compared to 
  say,
  installing Firefox or LibreOffice, I felt these three systems are fair
  compromises (they are also ordered alphabetically):
  * Fedora - best in class, big download link straight off their website and 
  a
  system that is very close to a vanilla GNOME 3 system (+ some software I am
  somewhat unhappy about like SELinux, ABRT but that's ok).
  * OpenSUSE - Some jumping through hoops in order to get what you're 
  actually
  looking for and a certain risk of ending up with KDE or some other system 
  in the
  end. I've talked to Jos and the current link is the best we can do today.
  [1]
  * Ubuntu - By default Ubuntu comes with something that is very different 
  from
  what we advertise on our websites, but questions about how to install 
  latest
  GNOME 3 on Ubuntu keeps coming up a lot on our G+, Facebook and news 
  articles,
  so hopefully the apt:-link will do all right.
 
  So what about the others then? I forgot about the Amazing Distro X! :)
  I felt that the instructions for Arch (GNOME is available in the _extra_
  repository), Mageia (GNOME 3 is coming in the next version)
  and Debian (In experimental, not in stable at all). All these
  distros are probably really cool, but they are making things harder for our
  users. But! I am hopeful that their website front pages will do their best 
  to
  advertise how to get a working GNOME 3 system up and running in very 
  little time
  in the future.
 
 
  For me it's ok, though IMHO I've found the font size too small and 
  difficult to read, at
  least for me. I think that showing the links of these distros in a single 
  line is enough to
  note that your state above.
 
  Just my two cents,
 
 -- Juanjo Marin
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3.4 press coverage

2012-03-29 Thread Andre Klapper
Anybody knows if we have a central place on the wiki where to list press
coverage for the latest and future GNOME releases?
Or does this make no sense?

As a start:
[de] http://www.heise.de/open/artikel/Angesehen-Gnome-3-4-1480115.html
[cs] http://www.linuxexpres.cz/software/recenze-gnome-3-4


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Re: The release-notes has a daed link.

2012-03-28 Thread Andre Klapper
On Wed, 2012-03-28 at 21:46 +0900, Jiro Matsuzawa wrote:
 The release-notes has a daed link.
 It is http://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/3.4/gtk-migrating-GtkApplication.html;.
 
 The source location is here:
 C/rndevelopers.xml:192
 ulink 
 url=http://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/gtkversion;/gtk-migrating-GtkApplication.html;applicationlibunique/application
 
 (!ENTITY gtkversion 3.4)

True. Should be
http://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/gtkversion;/gtk-migrating-unique-GtkApplication.html
instead. Not sure how to proceed...

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Re: Annual Report, GNOME Journal Quarterly Reports

2012-03-22 Thread Andre Klapper
Hola,

On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 19:34 +0800, Emily Chen wrote:
 With the help of Andreas, we have upload the Q4 report to: 
 http://www.gnome.org/foundation/reports/
 
 We are going to announce Q4 report by this weekend. Let me know if
 there is any other things to do. 

Two small issues:

Copy and paste from the wiki can introduce question marks for CamelCase
words, but only William Jon ?McCann is affected by it. :)

h3by: Emily Gonyer/h3 should be h4 as the rest.

Will the currently missing Q3 report be added too?

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Re: 3.4 Release Notes

2012-03-14 Thread Andre Klapper
On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 15:50 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
 We're pretty much out of time for this. We should really have
 a draft
 of the release notes finished already. I'm busy working on
 them using
 the existing infrastructure.

Thanks for your help, Allan!

 Let me know if you need help.. I can help edit, or even add content.
 Just point me at a task and I'll try to help.

Oh, it's easy and everybody is welcome:
1) git clone ssh://developern...@git.gnome.org/git/release-notes
2) cd release-notes
3) git checkout -b gnome-3-4 origin/gnome-3-4
4) cd help/C/
5) grep -r TODO .
6) hack away on your favorite TODO items
7) yelp release-notes.xml // to check for syntax errors
7) git commit -m Fixed it all! -a

Simple proofreading or adding screenshots is also welcome. :)

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Re: 3.4 Release Notes

2012-03-09 Thread Andre Klapper
On Thu, 2012-03-08 at 19:59 +, Allan Day wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote:
  On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote:
  I was thinking of switching from Docbook to Mallard for 3.6 (I didn't
  have time to prepare this for 3.4 already).
  The advantages of GNOME 3 page style are unclear to me currently,
 
 Advantages of moving over to using Wordpress for the release notes
 (that I can think of):
 
  1. The notes will be on gnome.org rather than under
 library.gnome.org/misc (why are the notes for our new release in a
 'library'? why are they 'miscellaneous'?)
 
  2. Avoid the bookishness of the format (sub-headings everywhere,
 boxes of links interrupting the flow of the document), which is rather
 stilted.
 
  3. Allow embedding of richer media, such as lightboxes, image
 galleries and videos.
 
  4. Allow flexible design, facilitating a more stylish and attractive layout.
 
  5. Allow division of the notes into separate pages, rather than being
 a single *huge* page.

Apart from point 1 and maybe partially point 4:  Isn't this all also
fixable by just switching from Docbook to Mallard? :)

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3.4 Release Parties?

2012-03-09 Thread Andre Klapper
Does anybody volunteer to promote the 3.4 release in two weeks?

Should we at least set up a central wikipage (continent - country -
city, address, date, time, contact person), so people can enter
potential come-togethers on
https://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/ThreePointFour/ReleaseParties ?
And ask on
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gugmasters-list to add dates?

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Re: 3.4 Release Notes

2012-03-08 Thread Andre Klapper
On Thu, 2012-03-08 at 10:57 +, Allan Day wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote:
  On Thu, 2012-03-08 at 09:59 +, Allan Day wrote:
  We might struggle to do it for this release, but having a separate
  press release and some kind of release notes for the release candidate
  could be a good way to get the word out.
 
  Release Candidate = two weeks before the release.
 
 Oh? The schedule [1] says it's one week before the release.

Argh. So much for my reading skills. :)
Sometimes it's one week and sometimes it's two weeks, also depends on
external influences on the schedule (releases vs public holidays; no
freezes yet when conferences like GUADEC or hackfests take place; etc).

 It was just an idea. But I don't see why we couldn't aim to have
 *something* (it doesn't have to be the full, finished release notes)
 ready a week in advance.

I agree, but I'm afraid that reality (and its manpower) will bite us.
(We also dream of documentation freezes for translators. :-)

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Re: 3.4 Release Notes

2012-03-07 Thread Andre Klapper
On Wed, 2012-03-07 at 09:28 +, Allan Day wrote:
 Now, a question. We typically keep the release notes secret until the
 release itself. At least one member of the press has told me that this
 makes it quite difficult for him to cover GNOME releases, since there
 is little information about the release until it is actually out.
 
 Is there a way we can disclose what will be in the release prior to
 release day itself? Maybe the release notes could be made public with
 the release candidate, for example? It would be really useful to know
 what other projects do in this regard.

I don't have any opinion on this. In the past we've been having a
password protection, but we could drop that and add a This is not the
final version, things might be wrong and change header - same as on
https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointThree/ReleaseNotes .

 One other thing that we've spoken about is moving away from the
 library/documentation format for the release notes. Hosting them
 directly on gnome.org would give us a lot more freedom in terms of how
 we present the notes

What would you like to see that Mallard cannot do?

  (so they would look more like the GNOME 3 page
 [2], for example).

I was thinking of switching from Docbook to Mallard for 3.6 (I didn't
have time to prepare this for 3.4 already).
The advantages of GNOME 3 page style are unclear to me currently,
however I would first have to know what markup language this move would
imply, plus if anybody would be actually willing to prepare this move.

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Re: GFOSS conference in Greece

2012-02-29 Thread Andre Klapper
Heja,

On Wed, 2012-02-29 at 10:46 +0200, Stathis Iosifidis (aka diamond_gr)
wrote:
 I just saw a post (in Greek) [1] that there will be a day conference.
 This conference will be held to 4 cities in Greece (different days).
 Deadline is March 10th. You can send your participation to
 http://go.eellak.gr/ellakconf/

Thanks for the notice.
After reading this twice it's still not clear to me what the deadline is
about.  Do you ask for help with / about having a GNOME booth/
representation? Or is this a call for GNOME talks and presentations?

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Re: New web development documentation

2012-02-19 Thread Andre Klapper
On Thu, 2012-02-16 at 08:03 -0700, Christy Eller wrote:
 Just want to keep everyone informed of some new web development
 documentation regarding www.gnome.org
   * The git repository for www.gnome.org
 (http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-web-www) has 2 branches:
   * master
 (http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-web-www/log/) 
   * wptest
 (http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-web-www/log/?h=wptest) 
 which links to http://wptest.gnome.org

Does that mean that the outdated www.gnome.org subdirectory in 
http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnomeweb-wml/tree/ should get removed (e.g.
request against sysadmin Bugzilla product)?
At least I was confused by its existence after the move to WP.

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Re: GNOME FOSDEM Stand

2012-02-06 Thread Andre Klapper
Dear Allan,

On Mon, 2012-02-06 at 15:05 +, Allan Day wrote:
 how did
 you think the stand worked, and what could we improve for next time?

I didn't spend much time behind the stand (thanks to everybody else who
helped and did much much more work!) but dumping what I remember from
when I wasn't drunk or slacking or both:

  * I was asked twice if the POSTERS (official desktop of happy
people) are available but did not know the wiki URL by heart.
For the next print it should be written on them in a small font
in a dark corner.
  * Tobias put up some of our available t-shirts but we were missing
a ROPE/TAPE so we ended up using two network cables to get them
onto the wall. It had a geeky charme so maybe we should not fix
this.
  * The LEAFLET includes a screenshot of GNOME 2 (and doesn't look
great if they are just black and white photocopies).
  * Tobias wants one of these STAND-UP displays that are a poster in
120x200cm and can be rolled up. I have no idea what it's called
and no idea yet what to put onto it.
  * I sometimes wonder (for geeky audiences) if we should have a
how-to help list handy, like some (real) examples for tasks
where we need help (e.g. application $foo needs updated
documentation or $bar's maintainer is AWOL and you could take
over). Might not make us look good though, so maybe just a
printed summary of the Getting involved page showing that
there are many areas where people can contribute and that you
don't need to be a coder. OUTREACH.
  * Not Fosdem specific: The STICKERS with the foot logo don't help
spreading the word to people who do not know what the logo
stands for. If we had stickers with a gnome.org URL on them
our street teams could put them onto every traffic light and
toilet door of those hip clubs and schools where the cool kids
go that should really check out our project. Of course our
street teams should only do this in countries where wild
advertising is legal(TM)!

Cheers,
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Re: Marketing IRC Meeting/FOSDEM Meetup

2012-02-02 Thread Andre Klapper
On Thu, 2012-02-02 at 06:48 -0500, Emily Gonyer wrote:
 Also, those of us going to FOSDEM, did we ever pick a time to meet
 up/have a small meeting? 

See the marketing mini meeting at FOSDEM thread.
At the GNOME booth on Sunday 11:20AM.

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Re: FoG Campaign Update?

2012-01-12 Thread Andre Klapper
On Thu, 2012-01-12 at 10:44 +, Juanjo Marín wrote:
 We had  problems with the donation progress bar, so I think

See the promoting the a11y FoG campaign one week ago on this list.
Bug was https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=666547

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Re: FoG Campaign Update?

2012-01-12 Thread Andre Klapper
On Thu, 2012-01-12 at 13:48 +, Juanjo Marín wrote:
 By the way, I'd like to have a blog in gnome.org to help in this. I have
 one in blogspot, but it is in Spanish, so I think is better to start another
 one just for the gnomie things in English. Does anyone knows the 
 process having a blog in gnome ? (I'm foundation member)

https://live.gnome.org/NewBlogRequest for the blog.
https://live.gnome.org/PlanetGnome for getting added to the planet.

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Re: marketing mini meeting at FOSDEM

2012-01-09 Thread Andre Klapper
On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 17:01 -0500, Karen Sandler wrote:
 I know that Allan, Emily G. and I are planning to attend FOSDEM. Is anyone
 else? I'd love to schedule a time for us to meet up.

I'd also be interested in joining, even if I just lurk. :)

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Fwd: GNOME 2011 Q3 Quaterly Report

2011-12-20 Thread Andre Klapper
[Forwarding to marketing-list as this might be something to tweet about
(or not).]

On Tue, 2011-12-20 at 15:58 +0800, Emily Chen wrote:
 Hi all, 
 
 
 The GNOME Foundation would like to present the 2011 Q3 report [1] to
 all. This quarter was a time of change for GNOME's Board of Directors,
 with a new Board of Directors taking charge of the foundation. Read
 more to hear all of the fabulous work that was done on GNOME during
 July, August, September 2011! 
 
 Emily Chen
 [1] http://foundation.gnome.org/reports/gnome-report-2011-Q3.html 
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Re: Gnome Journal Moved!

2011-11-02 Thread Andre Klapper
On Fri, 2011-10-14 at 10:42 -0400, Emily wrote:
 Just wanted to let everyone know I have finished moving all the
 articles files from gnomejournal.org to
 thegnomejournal.wordpress.com. 

Is there a HTTP redirect planned?
Does not seem to be the case yet...

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Google Code-In 2011: Tasks wanted!

2011-10-27 Thread Andre Klapper
Google Code-In starts again.
GNOME took part in it last year already.


=== What is Google Code-in (GCI)? ===

You might call it the small sister of Google Summer of Code.
It is a contest for 13-17 year old highschool students. 
Tasks take 3-5 days and have a mentor assigned.

Tasks can be in several categories:
* Code: Tasks related to writing or refactoring code
* Documentation: Tasks related to creating/editing documents
* Outreach: Tasks related to community management and outreach/marketing
* Quality Assurance: Tasks related to testing and ensuring code is of high 
quality
* Research: Tasks related to studying a problem and recommending solutions
* Training: Tasks related to helping others learn more
* Translation: Tasks related to localization
* User Interface: Tasks related to user experience research or user interface 
design and interaction

For more info check out
http://www.google-melange.com/gci/document/show/gci_program/google/gci2011/about


=== How to participate ===

GNOME needs 5 tasks in each of the 8 categories (=40 tasks in total)
until October 31st in order to participate in GCI.
That's in a few days already, so hurry up if you have an idea!
That would be the first batch of tasks. 
A second batch would be published on December 16th.

Tasks need a clear description, one or more defined mentors, an expected
timeframe to solve them, and difficulty (easy, medium, hard).

More info for mentors is available here:
http://code.google.com/p/google-code-in/wiki/GCIAdminMentorInformation

No ideas? Check out for example KDE's list:
http://community.kde.org/GoogleCodeIn/2011/Ideas

You could even add generic tasks: Add three GCI tasks Fix a bug of your
choice for the product $foo in GNOME Bugzilla (one easy, one medium and
one hard), let the student pick a bug, and then tell her/him whether to
claim the easy, medium or hard task for it.


=== Criticism from last year ===

...as it helps to avoid wrong expectations:
GCI is not GSoC. There is not enough time to create an emotional
binding to the project that the student works on.
I'd rather call it drive-by contributions.

Patches might need several iterations and you will need to be both
patient and reactive (as students cannot claim a new task until their
patch has been reviewed and marked as completed by mentors).
It might be helpful to mention in task descriptions your availability,
e.g. that you also have free weekends or don't plan to review
submissions on christmas holidays.


But all in all it is a good way to help young people to get a first idea
of FOSS and contributing to it, and to create some future contributors.

Are you in?

If so, go to https://live.gnome.org/GoogleCodeIn and add some ideas to
https://live.gnome.org/GoogleCodeIn/Tasks !


Enjoy!,
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Re: interview for SCALE website

2011-09-19 Thread Andre Klapper
On Mon, 2011-09-19 at 07:46 +0100, Juanjo Marín wrote:
 IMO, web integration in the desktop is the hot new feature of GNOME 3.2.

Well, Epiphany has a webapp mode and we have google integration for
contacts and documents, but that's it basically.
I wouldn't call this web integration (yet).

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Re: 3.2 Release Parties [was: Re: Kick starting the 3.2 campaign]

2011-09-13 Thread Andre Klapper
On Mon, 2011-09-12 at 15:30 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
 Draft at
 https://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/ThreePointTwo/ReleaseParties
 
 Feedback welcome before I send a message to gugmasters-list.

ping? Silence means compliance?
Will the marketing team help spreading the URL?

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Re: getting a domain of srilanaka.gnome.org

2011-04-19 Thread Andre Klapper
On Tue, 2011-04-19 at 19:07 +0530, Danishka Navin wrote:
 have you ever seen a multilingual web portal? :)

Argh, I just read it totally wrong initially
(mixing up lk with ta and si).

Sorry for the noise!

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Re: getting a domain of srilanaka.gnome.org

2011-04-19 Thread Andre Klapper
On Tue, 2011-04-19 at 19:03 +0530, Danishka Navin wrote:
 Lets develop the product with minimal effort. is it ok?
 what the mater of creating the a subdomain and publishing the content?

Well, what's the issue with coming up with some basic identification of
requirements first that doesn't only consist of buzzwords, so
infrastructure folks (mostly also volunteers) can start some actual
planning and allocate time for specific needs, instead of investigating
in something that's not really used later on?

To me it looks like you miss the point...

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Re: New GNOME.Asia Summit website launched

2011-03-27 Thread Andre Klapper
On Sat, 2011-03-26 at 23:17 -0400, Richard Stallman wrote:
 Can we fit freedom in there somehow?

I think this was already covered by Frederic in
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2011-March/msg00147.html
by asking for a concrete proposal.

 Or swatantra, in honor of India?

I'd rather see the complete website translated instead of some single
words to some languages as a surprise in the English version.

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Re: Any Shared Slides - New Features for GNOME 3.0

2011-03-16 Thread Andre Klapper
On Wed, 2011-03-16 at 17:37 +0100, Dave Neary wrote:
 If I may be so bold, I think that we should not have a what's new in
 GNOME 3 presentation, but a What is GNOME presentation.

s/not/not only/ and s/but/but also/, IMO.

At least for our local release party the audience is expected to be
quite technical. Hence a What is GNOME presentation *might* be
uninteresting for them.
I don't want to generalize, just pointing out to consider it *in case*
you know your audience a bit.

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Re: GNOME Journal

2011-01-26 Thread Andre Klapper
On Wed, 2011-01-26 at 10:09 -0600, Jason D. Clinton wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 10:05, Paul Cutler pcut...@gnome.org wrote:
   We're looking for articles on the new features, updates to
  applications, interviews, you name it - and we need your help!
 
 Might be good to ask d-d-l as a part of the process of getting people
 thinking about release notes.

For the records: Traditionally there is http://live.gnome.org/RoadMap
for release notes planning, which as usual is welcome for updates.

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Re: Official announcement and invitation to GNOME 3.0 Hackfest and GNOME.Asia Summit 2011

2011-01-22 Thread Andre Klapper
On Sat, 2011-01-22 at 19:04 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote:
 Le vendredi 21 janvier 2011, à 23:41 +0800, Frederic Muller a écrit :
  So Hackfest registration is happening here:
  http://live.gnome.org/Hackfests/GNOME.Asia2011 , call for papers for
  the conference is here http://live.gnome.org/GnomeAsia/CallForPaper
  and conference registration will be opening soon.
 
 What's the plan on the marketing team side? Do we have people who can
 go? I didn't see any replies on marketing-list to the previous mails,
 unless I missed something.

Same question goes for Documentation.

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Re: String and UI Change Announcement Period

2011-01-12 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Sonntag, den 09.01.2011, 16:40 -0600 schrieb Paul Cutler:
 It would be helpful to let the Marketing team know too- there is
 interest in doing videos, but we need to know when the UI gets close
 so the videos are as accurate as possible.
 
 On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Vincent Untz vu...@gnome.org wrote:
  We'll enter the String and UI Change Announcement Period

See
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2011-January/msg00138.html
and followups.

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Re: GCI: Update Gnome Usergroup Info, Introduction

2011-01-03 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Montag, den 03.01.2011, 17:40 +0100 schrieb Dave Neary:
 Can you let me know if you're still involved with the GUG? If not, can
 you let me know who is now the main contact for the GUG, please?

This assumes that the GUG has a leader, however I have the feeling that
some GUGs listed are just mailing lists without a defined internal
hierarchy?

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Two Release Party wikipages

2010-12-20 Thread Andre Klapper
People currently add GNOME 3.0 Release Party plans (some good ones, and
some totally vague ones) to two wikipages:
http://live.gnome.org/ThreePointZero/LaunchParty
http://live.gnome.org/Gnome%203%20Release%20Splash

Does somebody have time to check/compare content and merge them (and
write that concrete info should be added, instead of a $Country, some
pub in a city I didn't mention?

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Re: review request: GNOME marketing flyer for new users in less economically developed countries.

2010-10-29 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Freitag, den 29.10.2010, 15:33 +0200 schrieb Ben Konrath:
 http://bagu.org/scratch/GNOME-dev-world-flyer.zip

Small typo fixes:

disablites misses two I and should be disabilities.
distrobuitions should be distributions.
evironment should be environment.

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Google Code-In for GNOME: We Need Tasks! (Reminder)

2010-10-28 Thread Andre Klapper
Reminder if you have ideas for GSoC to file them today as application
deadline for organizations is October 29 at 23:00 UTC.

So far GNOME has one proposal thanks to jhs (compared to e.g. KDE with
35 proposals).
If the interest remains that low I don't plan to run this for GNOME or
apply.

andre


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Subject: Google Code-In for GNOME: We Need Tasks!
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 16:27:48 +0200

[Please strip the CC list in case of category specific answers!]

Hi,

some might remember Google's GHOP contest in 2007/08.
This year it will take place under the name Google Code-In (GCI) from
November 2010 to January 2011.

GCI is a small sibling of Google Summer of Code for highschool
students (13-18yrs) and with much smaller tasks in several fields (like
docu, code, translation, etc). The average amount of time to be spent
for a task should be about three days.
For more info please see http://live.gnome.org/GoogleCodeIn


If you have an idea about a possible task, want to guide a student to
fulfil it and perhaps also want to get new contributors for your
project/area, please read
http://live.gnome.org/GoogleCodeIn/HowToWriteAGoodTask and propose your
tasks at
 *** http://live.gnome.org/GoogleCodeIn/Tasks ***


For an idea of tasks that were available in 2007 see
http://code.google.com/p/google-highly-open-participation-gnome/issues/list?can=1q=sort=id

Also some old (unused) tasks from 2009 are available at
http://live.gnome.org/GoogleCodeIn/OldTasks .
Mentors are encouraged to update them and move them to the Tasks
wikipage if they are still applicable/available.


(Google will announce the participating organizations after application
closing on Fri, 29th of October. Afterwards tasks will likely be moved
to Google's issue tracker.)


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Google Code-In for GNOME: We Need Tasks!

2010-10-21 Thread Andre Klapper
[Please strip the CC list in case of category specific answers!]

Hi,

some might remember Google's GHOP contest in 2007/08.
This year it will take place under the name Google Code-In (GCI) from
November 2010 to January 2011.

GCI is a small sibling of Google Summer of Code for highschool
students (13-18yrs) and with much smaller tasks in several fields (like
docu, code, translation, etc). The average amount of time to be spent
for a task should be about three days.
For more info please see http://live.gnome.org/GoogleCodeIn


If you have an idea about a possible task, want to guide a student to
fulfil it and perhaps also want to get new contributors for your
project/area, please read
http://live.gnome.org/GoogleCodeIn/HowToWriteAGoodTask and propose your
tasks at
 *** http://live.gnome.org/GoogleCodeIn/Tasks ***


For an idea of tasks that were available in 2007 see
http://code.google.com/p/google-highly-open-participation-gnome/issues/list?can=1q=sort=id

Also some old (unused) tasks from 2009 are available at
http://live.gnome.org/GoogleCodeIn/OldTasks .
Mentors are encouraged to update them and move them to the Tasks
wikipage if they are still applicable/available.


(Google will announce the participating organizations after application
closing on Fri, 29th of October. Afterwards tasks will likely be moved
to Google's issue tracker.)


Happy Code-In hopefully,
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Re: It's Release Notes time!

2010-09-30 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Donnerstag, den 30.09.2010, 15:00 +0300 schrieb Zeeshan Ali
(Khattak):
   I tried my best to help you out in this regard while fixing all the
 critical issues in rygel and the deps in time for GNOME 2.32. What do
 I get in return? You completely ignored my project in the release
 notes rather than helping me out by putting the features I put-up on
 the wiki that rygel adds to GNOME, in nice words for users.

Can you please change your tone?
I'm a bit tired of hurt egos.

Thanks in advance,
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Re: 2.32 banner

2010-09-29 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi Vinicius,

thanks for the great banner!

Am Mittwoch, den 29.09.2010, 15:42 -0300 schrieb Vinicius Depizzol:
 On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 15:23, Vincent Untz vu...@gnome.org wrote:
  Do you have the svg

This is probably somewhere documented on the wiki, but what is the font
you used and where to get it?

Here in Inkscape the SVG uses Helvetica as fallback, and that's
ugly. :-P

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Re: GSM

2010-08-02 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Montag, den 02.08.2010, 12:26 -0500 schrieb Nathan Willis:
 I was wondering if someone could tell me what the latest is with the
 GNOME Software Map 

Can you please elaborate on the term Software map?

Thanks,
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Re: GNOME Store

2010-04-28 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Mittwoch, den 28.04.2010, 11:02 +0200 schrieb Dave Neary:
 If we must decide on a t-shirt design to drop (and we're not there yet),
 the House of Monkeys T would be my preference.

Heh. That's exactly the one that I have gotten the most positive
comments (cute etc) and conversation starts (what is GNOME?) for.

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Re: GNOME Store

2010-04-28 Thread Andre Klapper
Heja,

Am Mittwoch, den 28.04.2010, 12:18 +0200 schrieb Dave Neary:
 Andre Klapper wrote:
  Am Mittwoch, den 28.04.2010, 11:02 +0200 schrieb Dave Neary:
  If we must decide on a t-shirt design to drop (and we're not there yet),
  the House of Monkeys T would be my preference.
  
  Heh. That's exactly the one that I have gotten the most positive
  comments (cute etc) and conversation starts (what is GNOME?) for.
 
 Really? For me, it's got low brand value, it's a bit confusing, and the
 whole monkeys in-joke is distracting. I'm not a huge fan of the design,
 and the t-shirt colours aren't great (but of wourse that's personal
 preference).

Interesting point. I totally agree that the brand value is stronger in
other designs. However having just the GNOME logo on a shirt looks like
maybe just another clothing brand I don't know about yet to
outsiders without providing much values.
My naive idea: If the House of Monkeys shirt is considered cute, the
first impression of people not knowing GNOME is that GNOME is also
something cute.

Probably it really depends on who you talk to. I mostly refered to
people not into computers when I go out in the evening.

Of all the geeky shirts I have the Beagle one[1] has created by far
the most feedback (people starting to talk to me, often immediately
asking how they can buy one while having no idea that it's a software).

andre

[1] http://beagle-project.org/skins/beagle/beagle-logo.png
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Re: Gnome swag for event

2010-04-28 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi,

Am Mittwoch, den 28.04.2010, 19:15 +0100 schrieb Shane Fagan:
 Over here in Ireland we have an event called OSS Barcamp. Its been
 around a while and for the next one they are going to have stands with
 stands. I was wondering if we could put a nice Gnome stand at it. Ill
 man the stand myself but it would be nice if we could have some swag
 like some t-shirts pens..etc. It gets a nice crowd (300 people ish) so
 it could be nice to have a Gnome presence at it. Stormy could Gnome give
 a marketing pack of some sort for it?

GNOME Event box, if you don't think that it's overkill?
See http://live.gnome.org/GnomeEventsBox

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Re: GNOME - Gnome

2010-04-06 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Dienstag, den 06.04.2010, 08:08 -0500 schrieb Bharat Kapoor:
 At least now I know what GNOME is an acronym for :)
 The talk is about name or rename (if our mission is consistent with)
 GNU Network Object Model Environment

Once again: GNOME WAS an acronym. GNOME is NOT anymore an acronym.
GNOME stands for GNOME nowadays. Only. That's all.

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Re: GNOME - Gnome

2010-04-06 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Dienstag, den 06.04.2010, 18:05 +0100 schrieb Nelson Marques:
 I don't know if someone who has legal knowledge of this can support or
 enlighten people.

http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/legal-list ? :-)

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Re: GNOME - Gnome

2010-04-06 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Dienstag, den 06.04.2010, 23:48 +0200 schrieb Juanjo Marin:
 BTW, as far as I know, the GNOME uses Trebuchet MS [1] (correct me if
 I'm wrong) and I think it is time to change it.

Wrong, see http://live.gnome.org/BrandGuidelines ...

andre

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Re: Emergency marketing team meeting

2010-03-10 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Mittwoch, den 10.03.2010, 00:15 -0800 schrieb Sriram Ramkrishna:
 I don't know about you guys, but I'm still not clear what came out of
 the UX hackfest.

On a related note, I assume that hackfest output is quite unrelated to
GNOME 3, as most changes will be too late for GNOME 3, but such a
message wasn't communicated.

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Re: Emergency marketing team meeting

2010-03-08 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Montag, den 08.03.2010, 11:14 -0600 schrieb Paul Cutler:
 I'm also concerned as the GNOME Activity Journal has not been proposed
 as a module yet.

According to Seif today a proposal for GNOME 3 is planned.
Writing this here to avoid creation of potential rumours, based on valid
concerns raised here.

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Re: back to the survey topic

2010-02-09 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi,

Am Dienstag, den 09.02.2010, 19:12 + schrieb Nelson Marques:
 (I know GNOME is sponsored mainly by Red Hat, but I don't like Fedora).

In general I'd be very careful with such statements, as mainly is
highly subjective, plus lots of companies are listed on
http://foundation.gnome.org/about/advisoryboard/ for your information.

   I've also found some statistical open source programs meanwhile, this
 means that there is no need to use SPSS (IBM) or any other proprietary
 chunk of code.

...which are? :-)

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Re: No Subject

2010-02-09 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Dienstag, den 09.02.2010, 21:49 + schrieb Nelson Marques:
 I would like to ask one thing to this list, would it be possible for
 people to introduce themselfs and say what is their role around on the
 list?

On a general note I assume that a few people have a Personal GNOME
Wikipage (same goes for me): http://live.gnome.org/CategoryHomepage .
Might be a starting point for quickly looking up names...

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Re: Message of support following the earthquake in Haiti

2010-01-13 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Mittwoch, den 13.01.2010, 12:25 -0700 schrieb Guy Lunardi:
 Should the foundation consider sending a brief message of support
 regarding the earthquake in Haiti?

Playing the bad cop here: If we started doing this, what is the
threshold for future catastrophes, or what is the reason not to do this
constantly, having lots of poor people and conflicts on this earth?

 We could use Unicef or the Red Cross as orgs people could donate to:

I have problems with some of these big help organizations as I know
well about their behaviour in Sri Lanka after 2004's Tsunami.
(Off-topic - let's go off-list if somebody wants to debate.)

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Re: Gnome/Guadec and Government market

2009-12-17 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Donnerstag, den 17.12.2009, 19:07 +0100 schrieb Sanne te Meerman:
 I've made this a new thread.

No you didn't, as you clicked Reply instead of writing a new mail to the
list. Hence this is still in the same Thread in my Inbox and will mix
with the other thread this came from... :-/
See the References: section in your message header.

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Re: Marketing team meeting

2009-12-02 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Mittwoch, den 02.12.2009, 09:26 -0600 schrieb Paul Cutler:
 You will need to create an account on Doodle to vote in the poll.

No, you don't need an account.

andre

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Re: Fwd: Enquiry About Your Site

2009-11-03 Thread Andre Klapper
That looks a lot like spam.

andre


Am Dienstag, den 03.11.2009, 13:54 +0100 schrieb Marc-André Lureau:
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: David Wiseman davidwiseman.mme...@gmail.com
 Date: Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 1:36 PM
 Subject: Enquiry About Your Site
 To: marcandre.lur...@gmail.com
 
 
 Hi MarkAndre,
 
 Hope you are well.
 
 I just came across your fantastic website
 http://live.gnome.org/GnomeGames/ and I am really impressed by it. It
 seems like a really useful resource and lots of fun especially Tali.
 
 This is why I am writing to you - I have a client who is looking for
 some sites which with to establish a relationship with and for this
 they will pay you for the privilege.
 
 I would like to discuss this further at your earliest convenience. I
 look forward to hearing from you.
 
 Regards,
 
 David
 
 --
 David Wiseman
 Online Marketing Consultant
 Matan Media Ltd.
 
 davidwiseman.mme...@gmail.com
 www.matanmedia.com
 
 
 
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 Sent from Barcelona, Spain
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Re: FOSDEM GNOME Booth fugure events

2009-09-28 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Montag, den 28.09.2009, 14:11 -0600 schrieb Stormy Peters:
 Was anyone at FOSDEM? Can you comment on the GNOME booth?
 
 I heard it wasn't great. I noticed the Event Box wasn't used, 

I don't think that's true. :-)

There were small GNOME stickers for free (quite popular), some hardware
running GNOME to play with (laptop, N810, ...) and T-shirts (Freedom
Lover) were sold, plus the GNOME flag in the background.

As Lefty already wrote: In general FOSDEM is very crowded and there's
not much space.

If it wasn't great some more specific feedback would be really
interesting. You could also contact Reinout van Schouwen (reinouts),
Christophe Fergeau (teuf) and Lionel Dricot (ploum) who ran the booth,
if I remember correctly.

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Re: Spreading the word about 2.28

2009-09-21 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Montag, den 21.09.2009, 13:34 -0500 schrieb Paul Cutler:
 Maybe a theme around sharing
 
 GNOME 2.28 - Learning to Share

Maybe it's only me, but when I saw Learning 
1) it implied a GNOME now teaches you to share and
2) immediately a sarcastic Finally! in the comments section of
$your_favorite_troll_forum came to my mind.

But as I was told to be constructive maybe Created to Share?

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Re: FSF, terminology, and marketing

2009-09-18 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Freitag, den 18.09.2009, 17:07 -0500 schrieb Brian Cameron:
 The Free Software Foundation (FSF) encourages the usage of the term
 GNU/Linux instead of the term Linux, and also discourages referring
 to free software and licenses as open source.

 Thoughts?

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU/Linux_naming_controversy

My very personal opinion: There's a reality out there, and there's the
fundamentalists of the FSF. I prefer reality.

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Re: Exploiting the Nokia N900 release

2009-09-03 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Donnerstag, den 03.09.2009, 10:21 +0200 schrieb Roberto Galoppini:
  Are you waiting for info? Can we run with what's available online?
 
 Yes, I'm awaiting for more info, I had a look at the deck of slides
 but I definitely need more, plus (possibly) a contact at Nokia to get
 a couple of quotes.
 
 Roberto

It's still unclear to me what is blocking this.
Roberto, who exactly should provide more info, and what exact questions
do you have in mind for a potential Nokia contact? Or do you just want
some nice quotes for the text?

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Re: Updating outdated GNOME programming books

2009-09-02 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Mittwoch, den 02.09.2009, 01:43 +0100 schrieb Simos Xenitellis:
 1. the GNOME 2 User Guide,
 http://library.gnome.org/users/user-guide/stable/
 A PDF can be generated, it's about 160 pages.
 
 2. the GNOME 2 System Administration Guide,
 http://library.gnome.org/admin/system-admin-guide/stable/
 The PDF is about 75 pages.

Please first check with documentation team about how up to date these
documents are. ;-)

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Re: GNOME Amazon stores up and running

2009-08-31 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Montag, den 31.08.2009, 00:10 +0100 schrieb Alberto Ruiz:
 2009/8/30 Jaap A. Haitsma j...@haitsma.org:
  http://www.gnome.org/friends/amazon/

 I wonder if it's worth publicizing so outdated books, buying those
 would be a total waste of time.

+1.

Also, when I go to http://www.gnome.org/friends/amazon/ and click all
available 8 items, I get the following message for 5 of them:
This item is not available for purchase from this store.
Click here to go to Amazon to see other purchasing options.
Is that intended?

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Re: Exploiting the Nokia N900 release

2009-08-28 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Freitag, den 28.08.2009, 13:16 -0400 schrieb Behdad Esfahbod:
 On 08/28/2009 01:58 AM, Jaap A. Haitsma wrote:
  With the imminent release of the Nokia N900 GNOME technologies will be
  deployed widely in the mobile arena. Maybe the GNOME foundation should
  issue a press release. Or we should think of other ways to exploit the
  news.
 
  Maybe show an article + image on the front page of the GNOME website?
  Also like new releases of Ubuntu, Fedora etc with new GNOME releases
  could be listed. Or maybe computer vendors such as system76 release a
  new notebook with GNOME on it. Now I think of it we could maybe have
  some section called Powered by GNOME Technologies
 
  Feedback, more ideas?
 
 Would be good to figure out how much GNOME it is before doing that?

Beside lots of fd.o stuff, Maemo Fremantle uses GNOME stuff like atk1.0,
clutter, evolution-data-server, gconf, glib, gnome-vfs, GStreamer, gtk,
gvfs, libglade2, libsoup2.4, totem-pl-parser, tracker, vte.

Also see the fifth slide at
http://www.slideshare.net/qgil/maemo-harmattan-qt-and-more


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Re: Friends of GNOME subscription enhancements

2009-07-21 Thread Andre Klapper
Ahoj,

Am Dienstag, den 21.07.2009, 14:47 -0600 schrieb Stormy Peters:
 Donate to help support the GNOME Foundation's goal to provide a free
 desktop for all users - become a Friend of GNOME
 or
 Donate - help support the GNOME Foundation's goal to provide a free
 desktop for all users - become a Friend of GNOME
 or it could go in the title:
 Donate - Become a Friend of GNOME!

Pardon that I don't remember who blogged/twittered/blaed about
http://dustincurtis.com/you_should_follow_me_on_twitter.html in the last
days so I can't give credits.

Proposal:
Donate! - You should become a Friend of GNOME and help providing a free
desktop for all users.

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Re: promoting good gnome apps via news.gnome.org

2009-06-17 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Dienstag, den 16.06.2009, 12:15 -0500 schrieb Brian Cameron:
 We work hard to get our patches upstream,
 but there is usually a lag time and some modules are not well maintained
 (we have patches in bugzilla for modules like libgnome and gnome-vfs
 that have sat idle for years).

Probably because libgnome and gnome-vfs are both deprecated and there's
no interest in spending much time on them. I can imagine that the
current maintainers are open for requests on co-maintenance.

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Re: promoting good gnome apps via news.gnome.org

2009-06-14 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Sonntag, den 14.06.2009, 20:11 +0200 schrieb Claus Schwarm:
 Thus I also argued to have a
 separate projects.gnome.org to manage project homepages more easily.

This has happened in the meantime.

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Re: GNOME in the press

2009-06-01 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi,

Am Montag, den 01.06.2009, 19:27 +0200 schrieb Michael Hasselmann:
 whom would I contact when I found GNOME-related stuff in newspapers or
 magazines? Surely we keep a list of articles somewhere, even for the
 non-English stuff?

The only thing I found in the wiki is
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeFr/DansLaPresse for French articles.
If such a list was set up I wonder whether to exclude technical/computer
magazines - otherwise it would get crowded.
Dave tagged some articles about major releases at
http://delicious.com/tag/gnome224 (and /gnome222, ...).

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Re: Please test the Friends of GNOME survey!

2009-05-28 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Donnerstag, den 28.05.2009, 07:53 -0600 schrieb Stormy Peters:
 Can you please test the Friends of GNOME survey?
 http://www.gnome.org/~behdad/survey/index.php?sid=16424lang=en

There are several Rythmbox typos (but 50% of the population won't
recognize anyway :-P), and and
http://www.gnome.org/~behdad/survey/printanswers.php looks pretty ugly -
what about only printing those answers that are not No?
Yes [Y] and yes [2] are also very cryptic.

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Re: survey Friends of GNOME donors

2009-05-25 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Donnerstag, den 21.05.2009, 10:52 -0600 schrieb Stormy Peters:
 2. Do you use ... (check all that apply)
 - GNOME desktop
 - GNOME applications like Abiword, Gimp, Banshee, Inkscape (which ones
 should we list here?)
 - GNOME products on Windows
 - GNOME products on KDE
 - None of the above

What are GNOME products compared to GNOME applications?

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Re: redifining GNOME office.

2009-04-18 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Freitag, den 17.04.2009, 16:37 -0700 schrieb klyttle:
 I came across a presentation app for Gnome called Agnubis (strange name, I
 know).
 
 Not sure if it's still active, though; I really hope is it...it's definitely
 the missing link.

Links are helpful: http://projects.gnome.org/agnubis/
It's dead. I can't find a place to check out the source and I've never
heard about it.
But I think there's other folks around currently working on such a piece
of software.

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Re: GNOME Release Process graphic on gnome.org

2009-01-13 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Dienstag, den 13.01.2009, 07:08 -0700 schrieb Stormy Peters:
 I forwarded Andreas Nilsson's graphic of the GNOME release process
 (http://www.andreasn.se/blog/?p=93).
 
 They really liked it and Stefan Kost from Nokia suggested that we put
 it on gnome.org. I was thinking maybe at the top of this page,
 http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/2.24/, as that's where you
 land when you click on the Latest Release tab on the home page. 

Hmm... The release notes describe what's new in 2.24.0, while andreas'
graphic describes the process to 2.26.0.
I'd either add this to the Looking Forward to GNOME 2.26 section at
http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/2.24/ , or directly to the
wikipage at http://www.gnome.org/start/unstable/ .

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Re: Cultural Issue with the Foot Logo

2008-10-29 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Mittwoch, den 29.10.2008, 19:03 +0100 schrieb Thilo Pfennig:
 Dave Neary schrieb:
  Whenever I hear people propose abandoning an old logo completely, this
  question comes back to me:

 I did not propose this just for fun. If it means that GNOME will never
 be used in maybe 1/4 of the worlds countries it would be stupid not to
 change. The question is if one wants to neglect cultural differences.

What about the other 3/4 that will be confronted with another logo and
might not be able to link it against the GNOME brand they know?

If it's really 1/4 it's bad, but if it's only 1/30 I'd call it
multicultural reality on this world.

Come up with anything that you consider non offending and I will
probably find some culture where it IS offending. ;-)
GNOME 3?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3_(number)#As_a_lucky_or_unlucky_number
Probably not enough reason to avoid 3... but GNOME 4?
Considered an unlucky number in CKJ, see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4_(number)#In_other_fields .
Enough reason to avoid 4?
*shrug*

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Re: GNOME products in FSF Store

2008-10-21 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Dienstag, den 21.10.2008, 23:09 +0300 schrieb Lucas Rocha:
 [2] http://www.gnome.org/~lucasr/misc/gnome-rock-tshirt.png

Is it only me who feels reminded of the Banshee T-Shirt design here?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ianloic/2413283239/

Anyway, I love this. Thanks for kicking this off.

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Re: Plans for Ubuntu Release and GNOME download?

2008-09-29 Thread Andre Klapper
(Garr... This time reply-to-list...)

Am Montag, den 29.09.2008, 14:52 +0200 schrieb Thilo Pfennig:
 I like to know or suggest that GNOME will also announce the
availability
 of GNOME 2.24 in Ubuntu - as this will be AFAIK the first major distro
 which will give the users the new GNOME. I think at least this should
be
 mentioned somewhere on the homepage.

No, Mandriva Linux 2009.0 is planned for Oct 09.
If we start with this, every distro will want us to list them too. Have
fun explaining what major means... ;-)
I'd prefer to see http://www.gnome.org/~davyd/footware.shtml reworked
instead.

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Re: Fwd: free graphic excitement

2008-09-08 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Montag, den 08.09.2008, 14:38 -0500 schrieb James Coddington:
 http://www.soaringbrain.com/GnomeTest2.swf

(Personal feedback, not speaking on behalf of Marketing team:)
From a technical point of view I wonder how much slower this will make
login time. If we still have a splash screen in ten years, we have done
something wrong. (I think I quoted dobey here.)
Also wondering if this would annoy me when I log in for the, say, 30th
time.

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