Re: 2015 -- Our 30th Anniversary
Hello Regina, From: Regina Henschel [mailto:rb.hensc...@t-online.de] I've got StarWriter 2.0 Compact with one of my first PCs. The CD from 1994 is still readable. It contains a version for Win and one for OS/2. Both together around 11MB. But that are binaries of cause, no source. Interesting. What are the system requirements for the Windows version? Is suitable Win 98 or is it too new? (I'm afraid it will be too new) Greetings, Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: 2015 -- Our 30th Anniversary
Honestly, I don't agree on 30th Anniversary, but see 2015 as 25th Anniversary. StarWriter for text screens was written in Lueneburg near Hamburg. In Pascal. By people which later didn't work on StarWriter for Windows. In 1990, Marco started the new StarDivision location in Hamburg. StarWriter for GUI systems to be developed from scratch. Written in C++. By completely different people. When I started there in 1991, there was only a Writer prototype, as we also needed to first develop StarView, the class library for abstracting from Windows, OS/2, Mac and Unix Motif. Yes, there was a StarWriter Mac version in the beginning, long before it was canceled, and many years went by before there was one again! The concept of StarView was to create native system widgets for their corresponding components. As this approach lead to different issues, and not all systems had the same set of widgets, we later replaced StarView with VCL, as you know it today. First versions of StarOffice for Windows contained Calc and Draw developed outside from StarDivision, both using their own technology stack. Iirc, StarOffice 3.0 was the first version of the suite with all components based on StarView. The English Wiki referenced page below is misleading wrt versions. There also was a StarWriter 1.0 for Windows, many years after StarWriter 1.0 for DOS (which already was available in version 6 then). The version history is much better documented on the German Wiki page: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarOffice Just some historical data :) Best regards Malte. On 24.10.2014 17:25, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Roberto Galoppini roberto.galopp...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-10-24 16:41 GMT+02:00 Rob Weir r...@robweir.com: Those who know the history know that Apache OpenOffice is the continuation of the OpenOffice.org project, which itself came from a proprietary suite developed in Germany called StarOffice, which itself started as StarWriter, an application written in 1985 by Marco Börries . So next year, in 2015, will be our 30th anniversary. Any ideas what we might do? For example, does anyone still have a Zilog Z80 (or an emulator) that can run the original StarWriter? I'm still a proud owner of a ZX Spectrum Sinclair 48k, never heard about a StarWriter app, though. Does it exist, ideas about to get it? Cool! This is from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarOffice#History It references a page on our wiki that claims StarWriter 1.0 was released in 1985. No idea where to get the code. Maybe Juergen or another old-timer would have a clue for us? -Rob Roberto It looks like some emulators here: http://www.z80.info/z80emu.htm#EMU_CPU_W32 It might be interesting to show the history of Writer, from release to release, via a set of screen shots (or a movie) showing the evolution of the UI. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: 2015 -- Our 30th Anniversary
Malte! So, you do realize this is probably one of the very very few witness accounts we have of the origins of StarOffice? (later OpenOffice) ... and if you were to consent to writing more--or being interviewed in a podcast for more--we, or at least I, would be grateful... and better informed of that application that has so formed my adult life. best louis On 27 October 2014 14:53, Malte Timmermann malte_timmerm...@gmx.com wrote: Honestly, I don't agree on 30th Anniversary, but see 2015 as 25th Anniversary. StarWriter for text screens was written in Lueneburg near Hamburg. In Pascal. By people which later didn't work on StarWriter for Windows. In 1990, Marco started the new StarDivision location in Hamburg. StarWriter for GUI systems to be developed from scratch. Written in C++. By completely different people. When I started there in 1991, there was only a Writer prototype, as we also needed to first develop StarView, the class library for abstracting from Windows, OS/2, Mac and Unix Motif. Yes, there was a StarWriter Mac version in the beginning, long before it was canceled, and many years went by before there was one again! The concept of StarView was to create native system widgets for their corresponding components. As this approach lead to different issues, and not all systems had the same set of widgets, we later replaced StarView with VCL, as you know it today. First versions of StarOffice for Windows contained Calc and Draw developed outside from StarDivision, both using their own technology stack. Iirc, StarOffice 3.0 was the first version of the suite with all components based on StarView. The English Wiki referenced page below is misleading wrt versions. There also was a StarWriter 1.0 for Windows, many years after StarWriter 1.0 for DOS (which already was available in version 6 then). The version history is much better documented on the German Wiki page: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarOffice Just some historical data :) Best regards Malte. On 24.10.2014 17:25, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Roberto Galoppini roberto.galopp...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-10-24 16:41 GMT+02:00 Rob Weir r...@robweir.com: Those who know the history know that Apache OpenOffice is the continuation of the OpenOffice.org project, which itself came from a proprietary suite developed in Germany called StarOffice, which itself started as StarWriter, an application written in 1985 by Marco Börries . So next year, in 2015, will be our 30th anniversary. Any ideas what we might do? For example, does anyone still have a Zilog Z80 (or an emulator) that can run the original StarWriter? I'm still a proud owner of a ZX Spectrum Sinclair 48k, never heard about a StarWriter app, though. Does it exist, ideas about to get it? Cool! This is from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarOffice#History It references a page on our wiki that claims StarWriter 1.0 was released in 1985. No idea where to get the code. Maybe Juergen or another old-timer would have a clue for us? -Rob Roberto It looks like some emulators here: http://www.z80.info/z80emu.htm#EMU_CPU_W32 It might be interesting to show the history of Writer, from release to release, via a set of screen shots (or a movie) showing the evolution of the UI. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: 2015 -- Our 30th Anniversary
When is the English language dictionary going to be fixed in the spell checker application? Alphonso Whitfield III 912-590-6266 Sales Office 912-590-6139 Ops Center i...@thevitalportal.com Vital Inc. 315 Plant Ave Suite E Waycross, Georgia 31501 - Original Message - From: Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com To: marketing marketing@openoffice.apache.org Cc: d...@openoffice.apache.org Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 1:57:48 PM Subject: Re: 2015 -- Our 30th Anniversary Malte! So, you do realize this is probably one of the very very few witness accounts we have of the origins of StarOffice? (later OpenOffice) ... and if you were to consent to writing more--or being interviewed in a podcast for more--we, or at least I, would be grateful... and better informed of that application that has so formed my adult life. best louis On 27 October 2014 14:53, Malte Timmermann malte_timmerm...@gmx.com wrote: Honestly, I don't agree on 30th Anniversary, but see 2015 as 25th Anniversary. StarWriter for text screens was written in Lueneburg near Hamburg. In Pascal. By people which later didn't work on StarWriter for Windows. In 1990, Marco started the new StarDivision location in Hamburg. StarWriter for GUI systems to be developed from scratch. Written in C++. By completely different people. When I started there in 1991, there was only a Writer prototype, as we also needed to first develop StarView, the class library for abstracting from Windows, OS/2, Mac and Unix Motif. Yes, there was a StarWriter Mac version in the beginning, long before it was canceled, and many years went by before there was one again! The concept of StarView was to create native system widgets for their corresponding components. As this approach lead to different issues, and not all systems had the same set of widgets, we later replaced StarView with VCL, as you know it today. First versions of StarOffice for Windows contained Calc and Draw developed outside from StarDivision, both using their own technology stack. Iirc, StarOffice 3.0 was the first version of the suite with all components based on StarView. The English Wiki referenced page below is misleading wrt versions. There also was a StarWriter 1.0 for Windows, many years after StarWriter 1.0 for DOS (which already was available in version 6 then). The version history is much better documented on the German Wiki page: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarOffice Just some historical data :) Best regards Malte. On 24.10.2014 17:25, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Roberto Galoppini roberto.galopp...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-10-24 16:41 GMT+02:00 Rob Weir r...@robweir.com: Those who know the history know that Apache OpenOffice is the continuation of the OpenOffice.org project, which itself came from a proprietary suite developed in Germany called StarOffice, which itself started as StarWriter, an application written in 1985 by Marco Börries . So next year, in 2015, will be our 30th anniversary. Any ideas what we might do? For example, does anyone still have a Zilog Z80 (or an emulator) that can run the original StarWriter? I'm still a proud owner of a ZX Spectrum Sinclair 48k, never heard about a StarWriter app, though. Does it exist, ideas about to get it? Cool! This is from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarOffice#History It references a page on our wiki that claims StarWriter 1.0 was released in 1985. No idea where to get the code. Maybe Juergen or another old-timer would have a clue for us? -Rob Roberto It looks like some emulators here: http://www.z80.info/z80emu.htm#EMU_CPU_W32 It might be interesting to show the history of Writer, from release to release, via a set of screen shots (or a movie) showing the evolution of the UI. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
English dictionary (Re: 2015 -- Our 30th Anniversary)
On 27/10/2014 Alphonso Whitfield III wrote: When is the English language dictionary going to be fixed in the spell checker application? The English dictionary is not supposed to be fixed since it already works. If it doesn't work for you, try resettin your user profile. There are plenty of explanations around, see for example https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12426 Note that your comment has nothing to do with the original topic of this discussion. Please do change at least the subject (and possibly start a new discussion instead of replying to an existing one). Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: English dictionary (Re: 2015 -- Our 30th Anniversary)
Wrong answer.The end user should not have to fix anything it should work when the product is downloaded or the application should not be included in the download. It worked without difficulty prior to the latest version being released. I sent true end users to download the software , they downloaded the software and the spell check dictionary did not work. This damages our credibility as an alternative solution to pay for products that are available. What is the timeline for the download to be corrected? Alphonso Whitfield III 912-590-6266 Sales Office 912-590-6139 Ops Center i...@thevitalportal.com Vital Inc. 315 Plant Ave Suite E Waycross, Georgia 31501 - Original Message - From: Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org To: d...@openoffice.apache.org, marketing@openoffice.apache.org Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 4:44:54 PM Subject: English dictionary (Re: 2015 -- Our 30th Anniversary) On 27/10/2014 Alphonso Whitfield III wrote: When is the English language dictionary going to be fixed in the spell checker application? The English dictionary is not supposed to be fixed since it already works. If it doesn't work for you, try resettin your user profile. There are plenty of explanations around, see for example https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12426 Note that your comment has nothing to do with the original topic of this discussion. Please do change at least the subject (and possibly start a new discussion instead of replying to an existing one). Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
2015 -- Our 30th Anniversary
Those who know the history know that Apache OpenOffice is the continuation of the OpenOffice.org project, which itself came from a proprietary suite developed in Germany called StarOffice, which itself started as StarWriter, an application written in 1985 by Marco Börries . So next year, in 2015, will be our 30th anniversary. Any ideas what we might do? For example, does anyone still have a Zilog Z80 (or an emulator) that can run the original StarWriter? It looks like some emulators here: http://www.z80.info/z80emu.htm#EMU_CPU_W32 It might be interesting to show the history of Writer, from release to release, via a set of screen shots (or a movie) showing the evolution of the UI. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: 2015 -- Our 30th Anniversary
2014-10-24 16:41 GMT+02:00 Rob Weir r...@robweir.com: Those who know the history know that Apache OpenOffice is the continuation of the OpenOffice.org project, which itself came from a proprietary suite developed in Germany called StarOffice, which itself started as StarWriter, an application written in 1985 by Marco Börries . So next year, in 2015, will be our 30th anniversary. Any ideas what we might do? For example, does anyone still have a Zilog Z80 (or an emulator) that can run the original StarWriter? I'm still a proud owner of a ZX Spectrum Sinclair 48k, never heard about a StarWriter app, though. Does it exist, ideas about to get it? Roberto It looks like some emulators here: http://www.z80.info/z80emu.htm#EMU_CPU_W32 It might be interesting to show the history of Writer, from release to release, via a set of screen shots (or a movie) showing the evolution of the UI. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: 2015 -- Our 30th Anniversary
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Roberto Galoppini roberto.galopp...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-10-24 16:41 GMT+02:00 Rob Weir r...@robweir.com: Those who know the history know that Apache OpenOffice is the continuation of the OpenOffice.org project, which itself came from a proprietary suite developed in Germany called StarOffice, which itself started as StarWriter, an application written in 1985 by Marco Börries . So next year, in 2015, will be our 30th anniversary. Any ideas what we might do? For example, does anyone still have a Zilog Z80 (or an emulator) that can run the original StarWriter? I'm still a proud owner of a ZX Spectrum Sinclair 48k, never heard about a StarWriter app, though. Does it exist, ideas about to get it? Cool! This is from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarOffice#History It references a page on our wiki that claims StarWriter 1.0 was released in 1985. No idea where to get the code. Maybe Juergen or another old-timer would have a clue for us? -Rob Roberto It looks like some emulators here: http://www.z80.info/z80emu.htm#EMU_CPU_W32 It might be interesting to show the history of Writer, from release to release, via a set of screen shots (or a movie) showing the evolution of the UI. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: 2015 -- Our 30th Anniversary
Thats a great idea. Unfortunately, I'm not a very old-timer so I cannot help with appropriate hardware or software. But maybe with writting texts or translating from German. Marcus Am 10/24/2014 04:41 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: Those who know the history know that Apache OpenOffice is the continuation of the OpenOffice.org project, which itself came from a proprietary suite developed in Germany called StarOffice, which itself started as StarWriter, an application written in 1985 by Marco Börries . So next year, in 2015, will be our 30th anniversary. Any ideas what we might do? For example, does anyone still have a Zilog Z80 (or an emulator) that can run the original StarWriter? It looks like some emulators here: http://www.z80.info/z80emu.htm#EMU_CPU_W32 It might be interesting to show the history of Writer, from release to release, via a set of screen shots (or a movie) showing the evolution of the UI. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
