Comrade Scott,
Here I re-post the excerpt from RALLY COMRADES. What do you think of the
working class being INSIDE the system of capitalism and therefore not prone to
overthrowing it, and the NEW CLASS, which we know to be defined as the
permanently unemployed and OUTSIDE the system, as the
In a message dated 3/26/2010 7:41:10 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
frankied...@yahoo.com writes:
What do you think of the working class being INSIDE the system of
capitalism and therefore not prone to overthrowing it, and the NEW CLASS,
which we
know to be defined as the permanently
A social force capable of such a change must be outside capitalist society
and antagonistic to it. True to the dialectic, electronics itself is
creating this force. As more and more production is taken over by electronics,
the displaced workers are forced into lower and lower paying jobs and
Comrade f580,
I am going to prepare an answer to your questions as best I can but at this
very moment I am distracted by people that are requiring my attention on other
matters so it is difficult for me to think in 4 different directions at the
moment and I am scheduled to go out of town
Why is the New Class Revolutionary?
from the Editorial Board RALLY COMRADES
[Excerpt]
.Industrialization brought about a great social revolution in
Europe and America; however it did not go far enough and deep enough to bring
about the kind of political revolution that
In a message dated 3/25/2010 6:53:09 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
frankied...@yahoo.com writes:
Notice that the working class while antagonistic to feudalism because
it was outside that system are merely in contradiction with capitalism
since it is inside the system.
f580
Comment
No. I don't agree with your or LRNA new class concept. It is reactionary.
It will provoke antagonistic reaction within the class. You split them apart,
not I. The dispossessed [and NOT the lumpen], unemployed workers, marginal
workers, immigrant workers, part time workers, migrant
Comrade WL,
You stated in response to Comrade f580:
The new class is new because it evolves in relationship to qualitatively new
means of production. Where ever and when ever qualitatively new means
of production appear in a society rent with class struggle - private property,
you are going
OUR' is the workers I march with.
f580
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Subject: Re: [MLL] LRNA, WHY THE NEW CLASS IS REVOLUTIONARY... OUTSIDE THE
SYSTEM
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Comrade Scott,
I think that this point of yours can be taken to a higher logical conclusion,
if I may:
.it creates the new class in relationship to the new means or mode of
production based on the emergence of electronics.
There are indeed workers all over the world and here in USA
Comrade f580,
I am unclear as to how you arrive at the conclusion that LRNA, would or does,
consider a worker as reactionary. I do not like he said/she said arguements
and had no intention of relating a conversation I had with a member of the
editorial staff that is my best friend, however, I
Comrade Scott,
I quoted here from the LEAGUE, RALLY COMRADES the relevant articles defining
the new class and its relations with the rest of the proletariat. I could
quote more, if I need too.
If the new class is revolutionary because they are outside the system [which
they're not]
Comrade f580,
You stated:
If the LRNA considers all sectors of the class, except, perhaps the labor
aristocracy, or the labor hacks, as revolutionary, then good for us. Labor
united!
I assure you this is their position. What I am asking for is can you give me
the exact article name or link
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