[MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-03 Thread Carsten Munk
Hi all, MeeGo is dead ... long live Tizen !! - Haven't we heard that before? - Maemo, Moblin? We need a community that transcends the mere branding of MeeGo, Maemo, Moblin - and now Tizen. A lot of proposals have been put forward: * Move to Tizen and trust that They'll get it right this time *

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-03 Thread Timo Härkönen
2011/10/3 Carsten Munk cars...@maemo.org Hi all, Our solution is the Mer Project: Excellent! count me in. A few questions about the project's communication channels? Do we use these MeeGo mailing list, the meego-* IRC channels or are we moving somewhere? (IMO moving to mer-specific channels

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-03 Thread Carsten Munk
2011/10/3 Timo Härkönen timop.harko...@gmail.com: 2011/10/3 Carsten Munk cars...@maemo.org Hi all, Our solution is the Mer Project: Excellent! count me in. A few questions about the project's communication channels? Do we use these MeeGo mailing list, the meego-* IRC channels or are

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-03 Thread martin brook
Carsten Hi, Your aims are why I was draw to MeeGo in the first place and its good to see you aiming even higher. 'We will continue to welcome contribution and participation from the hacker community - in fact we aim to make it so easy to port to a new vendor device that a single hacker could do

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-03 Thread Randall Arnold
From: Carsten Munk cars...@maemo.org To: meego-dev meego-dev@meego.com; meego-comm...@meego.com Sent: Monday, October 3, 2011 1:01 AM Subject: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo Hi all, MeeGo is dead ... long live Tizen

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-03 Thread Thomas.Rucker
Hi, -Original Message- From: Randall Arnold From: Carsten Munk cars...@maemo.org To: meego-dev meego-dev@meego.com; meego-comm...@meego.com Sent: Monday, October 3, 2011 1:01 AM Subject: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo Hi all, MeeGo is dead

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-03 Thread ext-iekku.pylkka
Hi, Sounds great! Count me in. -- Iekku -Original Message- From: meego-dev-boun...@meego.com [mailto:meego-dev- boun...@meego.com] On Behalf Of ext Carsten Munk Sent: 03 October, 2011 09:01 To: meego-dev; meego-comm...@meego.com Subject: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-03 Thread Alberto Mardegan
Il 10/03/2011 09:01 AM, Carsten Munk ha scritto: The goal is to find a truly sustainable way for MeeGo and other interested communities to work with Tizen. Our solution is the Mer Project: [...] That's fantastic! I can't make any promises, as free time is an obsolete concept for me, but I'll

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Audio policy -- Adding one's own resource class

2011-10-03 Thread nimesh.chanchani
So does libresource expose a DBUS interface ? I'm asking this because say I'm running Ubuntu , Chrooted on Meego then I would need these DBUS API's to interact with the policy framework. -Original Message- From: Sami Sirkiä [mailto:sami.sir...@cybercom.com] Sent: Friday, September

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Where's the evidence that Tizen will contain *any* MeeGo code?

2011-10-03 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Robin Burchell robin+me...@viroteck.netwrote: LiFo owns MeeGo and won't let us the name, to be sure, I'm not so sure about that, and nothing stops us from asking. The worst that can happen is that we're told no, and have to come up with a new name. Why

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Who will keep pushing MeeGo?

2011-10-03 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 7:40 PM, quim@nokia.com wrote: Dave wrote: and at best an improvement (HTML5 vs QML). Fwiw QML doesn't stop any HTML5 improvement. In fact it plays perfectly well with HTML Javascript next to its neighbor QtWebKit, and bridges web development with native

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Who will keep pushing MeeGo?

2011-10-03 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Monday, 3 de October de 2011 12:08:44 Jeremiah Foster wrote: This is what is important to remember; that Qt and its ecosystem will likely just work on Tizen. But, and this is a big but, will Nokia try and kill Qt now that it is under Microsoft's boot? Not if I have anything to say about it.

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-03 Thread nic...@nicoladefilippo.it
Hi, +1 Nicola Da: meego-dev-boun...@meego.com A: meego-dev meego-dev@meego.com, meego-comm...@meego.com Cc: Data: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 08:01:17 +0200 Oggetto: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo Hi all, MeeGo is dead ... long live Tizen !! -

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Who will keep pushing MeeGo?

2011-10-03 Thread kate.alhola
On Oct 3, 2011, at 1:08 PM, ext Jeremiah Foster wrote: This is what is important to remember; that Qt and its ecosystem will likely just work on Tizen. But, and this is a big but, will Nokia try and kill Qt now that it is under Microsoft's boot? Nokia has clearly announced that Qt plays

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Who will keep pushing MeeGo?

2011-10-03 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 1:41 PM, kate.alh...@nokia.com wrote: On Oct 3, 2011, at 1:08 PM, ext Jeremiah Foster wrote: This is what is important to remember; that Qt and its ecosystem will likely just work on Tizen. But, and this is a big but, will Nokia try and kill Qt now that it is under

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] invitation... and a second one

2011-10-03 Thread Timo Jyrinki
(cc:ing to meego-dev as well since Jos originally wanted to post there, too) to, 2011-09-29 kello 21:40 +0200, Jos Poortvliet kirjoitti: Dear MeeGo friends! Many people in your community wonder where to go since the Tizen announcement. At a MeeGo meet in Tampere, many expressed concerns:

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Who will keep pushing MeeGo?

2011-10-03 Thread kate.alhola
On Oct 3, 2011, at 2:57 PM, ext Jeremiah Foster wrote: On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 1:41 PM, kate.alh...@nokia.commailto:kate.alh...@nokia.com wrote: On Oct 3, 2011, at 1:08 PM, ext Jeremiah Foster wrote: This is what is important to remember; that Qt and its ecosystem will likely just work

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Who will keep pushing MeeGo?

2011-10-03 Thread vivainio
The only commercially viable mobile platform currently is iOs, and even that is a stretch, if you look at the amount of companies actually making a living on app revenue. On 10/3/11 2:57 PM Jeremiah Foster wrote: On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 1:41 PM, kate.alh...@nokia.com wrote: On Oct 3,

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Who will keep pushing MeeGo?

2011-10-03 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Monday, 3 de October de 2011 13:57:58 Jeremiah Foster wrote: Hmm, that is quite a different story from what I hear from Nokia's marketing material. Somewhere there is a disconnect, either Nokia _is_ porting Qt to WP*, Nokia will continue with Linux for the next billion, or Nokia will use

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Who will keep pushing MeeGo?

2011-10-03 Thread Ville M. Vainio
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Thiago Macieira thi...@kde.org wrote: And finally, the Symbian port is dead. It's not a target at all for Qt 5. ... until someone decides to do the port, that is. ___ MeeGo-dev mailing list MeeGo-dev@meego.com

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Who will keep pushing MeeGo?

2011-10-03 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Monday, 3 de October de 2011 16:03:05 Ville M. Vainio wrote: On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Thiago Macieira thi...@kde.org wrote: And finally, the Symbian port is dead. It's not a target at all for Qt 5. ... until someone decides to do the port, that is. Right, someone could do that.

[MeeGo-dev] Community infra resources funds (was RE: MeeGo...)

2011-10-03 Thread quim.gil
Discussing resources funds is not as much fun as discussing brands or toolkits, but let me bring your attention to this point since it is probably important or plain critical for any plans forward discussed here. My assumption is that the current community doesn't have enough muscle to

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-10-03 Thread Foster, Dawn M
On Oct 1, 2011, at 11:28 AM, Kok, Auke-jan H wrote: Snip I've been asking the same questions as everyone else. If I get answers back that I can share, I most certainly will. For now, I'd like to ask everyone to submit questions to Dawn Foster, and keep asking. Answers will come - be

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-03 Thread Si Howard
I'm for that! Wasn't the Mer project part of the Maemo 5.0 porting to the Nokia N8X0 platform? On 03/10/2011 07:01, Carsten Munk wrote: Hi all, MeeGo is dead ... long live Tizen !! - Haven't we heard that before? - Maemo, Moblin? We need a community that transcends the mere branding of

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Regarding Qt with HTML5 layer from MeeGo Smart TV WG Meeting Minutes for 9/20/2011

2011-10-03 Thread dilip.kenchammana
Neils, Here is the whitepaper: http://qt.nokia.com/files/pdf/whitepaper-qt-hybrid-server-driven-ui/at_download/file The critical, and missing, context here is that Qt WebKit hybrid is a way to build native apps, not apps that run in a browser. Another way to think about it: Qt WebKit hybrid

[MeeGo-dev] will Mer support application developers?

2011-10-03 Thread Vim Toutenhoofd
Carsten, you wrote: ... [snip] ... to find a truly sustainable way for MeeGo and other interested communities to work with Tizen. Our solution is the Mer Project: ...[snip]... On Mer's website http://merproject.org/ I found that one of its goals is: That the primary

Re: [MeeGo-dev] will Mer support application developers?

2011-10-03 Thread ext-iekku.pylkka
Hi, Yesterday we had already MeeGo Community Edition running on top of Mer, maybe CE is the answer you are looking for? -- Iekku From: meego-dev-boun...@meego.com [mailto:meego-dev-boun...@meego.com] On Behalf Of ext Vim Toutenhoofd Sent: 04 October, 2011 05:18 To: meego-dev@meego.com