Re: [MBZ] '83 300D winter heat generation

2006-03-29 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On 3/27/06, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Common cause of the 124 heating system misbehaving is the coolant level being a little low OR the aspirator fan (located to the right side of the glove box) or the cabin temp sensor misbehaving. In addition, cold solder joints or dirty

Re: [MBZ] '83 300D winter heat generation

2006-03-29 Thread Jim Cathey
I expect to be underemployed this summer and spend a lot of time Catheying. I'm a verb! -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] '83 300D winter heat generation

2006-03-27 Thread Jim Cathey
So is it doing more harm than good if in there and seized? Or is there some sort of bypass so it's just not helping, but not hindering either? The seized motor current can cause trouble with the ACC system, but I'm told that it doesn't impede coolant flow too badly. It's just a simple

Re: [MBZ] '83 300D winter heat generation

2006-03-27 Thread Curt Raymond
it. The next couple days I watched and added maybe once more. Worked slick. -Curt Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 09:24:00 -0500 From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] '83 300D winter heat generation To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [MBZ] '83 300D winter heat generation

2006-03-27 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On 3/26/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So is it doing more harm than good if in there and seized? Or is there some sort of bypass so it's just not helping, but not hindering either? The seized motor current can cause trouble with the ACC system, Yeah, I've heard this elsewhere

Re: [MBZ] '83 300D winter heat generation

2006-03-27 Thread Levi Smith
: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] '83 300D winter heat generation To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hmm, ok then, whereabouts is the thermostat located? I can probably find

Re: [MBZ] '83 300D winter heat generation

2006-03-27 Thread Mike Canfield
, 2006 8:04 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '83 300D winter heat generation OK, so I took a couple trips last night and have a new question... What is correct operating temperature range? I'm sitting at about 90-100C even at around 40F outside temp now. Which I guess might be OK, I'm just not used

Re: [MBZ] '83 300D winter heat generation

2006-03-27 Thread Marshall Booth
Levi Smith wrote: OK, so I took a couple trips last night and have a new question... What is correct operating temperature range? I'm sitting at about 90-100C even at around 40F outside temp now. Which I guess might be OK, I'm just not used to seeing it quite that high and wondering if it

Re: [MBZ] '83 300D winter heat generation

2006-03-27 Thread Levi Smith
That's what I was looking to hear (and about what I figured, but I wanted to hear it for sure, since I'm not used to the gauge consistently being at these temp ranges) Thanks! Levi Marshall Booth wrote: Levi Smith wrote: OK, so I took a couple trips last night and have a new question...

Re: [MBZ] '83 300D winter heat generation

2006-03-27 Thread Jim Cathey
Yeah, I've heard this elsewhere too... cause trouble is an understatement, more like destroy the control unit. It depends on the vintage. I think some later ones are protected against damage, though will still act funny. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] '83 300D winter heat generation

2006-03-27 Thread Levi Smith
Hmm, would happen to be the motor looking thing up in the right front fender right behind the headlights? Seems like I recall there being something there that I was thinking might be that pump... Thanks! Levi Jim Cathey wrote: So is it doing more harm than good if in there and seized? Or

Re: [MBZ] '83 300D winter heat generation

2006-03-27 Thread Marshall Booth
Jim Cathey wrote: Yeah, I've heard this elsewhere too... cause trouble is an understatement, more like destroy the control unit. It depends on the vintage. I think some later ones are protected against damage, though will still act funny. The regulator that protects the '87 and later

Re: [MBZ] '83 300D winter heat generation

2006-03-27 Thread John Berryman
On Mar 26, 2006, at 9:39 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: It's what seems to work best at eliminating that nasty air bubble in the head. Make sure you install the thermostat correctly with the air bleed hole (or jiggle valve) up. -- Jim I pull the temp sensor, its pretty high up toward the front of

[MBZ] '83 300D winter heat generation

2006-03-26 Thread Levi Smith
I was wondering if someone who lives in a colder area could confirm for me whether or not something around the vintage of my 83' 300D should maintain temps even in winter? I.e. as I recall last summer I saw temps staying around 80-100C which I thought was about right. The last week or so I've

Re: [MBZ] '83 300D winter heat generation

2006-03-26 Thread John Berryman
On Mar 26, 2006, at 8:06 AM, Levi Smith wrote: I was wondering if someone who lives in a colder area could confirm for me whether or not something around the vintage of my 83' 300D should maintain temps even in winter? Yes. I.e. as I recall last summer I saw temps staying around

Re: [MBZ] '83 300D winter heat generation

2006-03-26 Thread Levi Smith
Hmm, ok then, whereabouts is the thermostat located? I can probably find that much in the manual, but here's my bigger question: What's the proper procedure for filling/bleeding the coolant system? I'm not used to the radiator cap being on the overflow bottle, and it doesn't seem like trying

Re: [MBZ] '83 300D winter heat generation

2006-03-26 Thread Jim Cathey
I was wondering if someone who lives in a colder area could confirm for me whether or not something around the vintage of my 83' 300D should maintain temps even in winter? Of course. Unless... Also worthwhile to note that I have a greasecar kit installed, so I do have another 15-20' of

Re: [MBZ] '83 300D winter heat generation

2006-03-26 Thread Levi Smith
OK, started looking at who has a thermostat in stock and such and have come to my next question: How likely am I to be able to re-use the thermostat gasket? (since no one has one in stock that's near me that would be open today) Just trying to determine whether or not I should take it apart

Re: [MBZ] '83 300D winter heat generation

2006-03-26 Thread l02turner
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Re: [MBZ] '83 300D winter heat generation

2006-03-26 Thread Levi Smith
OK, took a look at the engine, thermostat looks like an obvious location. It also appears that the thermostat gasket is rubber, so I'm hoping it's reusable. Then thought to take a look at the spare parts that came with my car and found two thermostats (and a housing no less. Looks like

Re: [MBZ] '83 300D winter heat generation

2006-03-26 Thread Levi Smith
Well, I got the old thermostat out. It was closed. Brought it in to test it. It seemed to work... Mostly... Once it was open, I thought it looked like the lower area of the rod that the valve slides on was rusty or some such thing, and tried to feel it with a knife (didn't feel like

Re: [MBZ] '83 300D winter heat generation

2006-03-26 Thread Jim Cathey
Oh yeah, one other thing. Did I hear that there's an electric water pump in the heater circuit that if failed would cause my heat to be near non-existent at idle, but revving the engine brings on the heat? (It seems to stay warm for at least a little while afterwards). There is. It often

Re: [MBZ] '83 300D winter heat generation

2006-03-26 Thread Levi Smith
So is it doing more harm than good if in there and seized? Or is there some sort of bypass so it's just not helping, but not hindering either? Thanks! Levi On 3/26/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh yeah, one other thing. Did I hear that there's an electric water pump in the