Re: Mersenne: 50% CPU?

2003-11-03 Thread Nathan Russell
--On Monday, November 03, 2003 5:08 PM -0800 John R Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: George Woltman wrote: At 04:35 PM 11/3/2003 -0800, John R Pierce wrote: I don't know if the affinity stuff will work in linux, however.. Mprime ignores the affinity settings in the ini files. We'll have to

Re: Mersenne: M#40 verification run

2003-06-12 Thread Nathan Russell
--On Wednesday, June 11, 2003 3:15 PM -0400 George Woltman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Possibilities are: 1) The original run was flawed or there is a bug in the version of prime95 used. It is hard to imagine a bug or hardware glitch that generates an all zero LL result. If memory is zeroed at

Re: Mersenne: Re: M#40 verification run

2003-06-12 Thread Nathan Russell
--On Wednesday, June 11, 2003 10:58 PM -0400 George Woltman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2) I'll change prime95 to NOT delete the save files when a new prime is found. When a prime is reported, I'll ask for the save file and rerun the last 30 minutes of the test. I think this would have helped

Re: Mersenne: Re: Mersenne Digest V1 #1038

2003-01-26 Thread Nathan Russell
--On Sunday, January 26, 2003 10:01 PM + Gordon Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 5. It has correctly been pointed out that life doesn't end if a milestone slips. Well guess what? That is a double-edged sword - life doesn't end if an exponent gets poached either. What if your prime had

Mersenne: Poaching and related issues...

2003-01-24 Thread Nathan Russell
Okay, to start with, GIMPS lost the very first prime we ever found to a member of another project who beat George to finding the exponent by a matter of hours. This is simply the way math and other fields of research work. Darwin's theory of evolution was very nearly duplicated by another

Re: Mersenne: Poaching -- Discouragement thereof

2003-01-24 Thread Nathan Russell
--On Friday, January 24, 2003 8:59 PM + Brian J. Beesley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think perhaps what may be needed is a new rule that users who don't complete assignments in a reasonable period of time (say 1 year?) should lose the right to the assignment, even if they do check in

Mersenne: IRC chat?

2002-11-18 Thread Nathan Russell
I'm in DALnet #mersenne, if anyone wants to stop by and say hello... I've got classes all day, so I'll kind of be in and out though. Nathan _ Unsubscribe list info -- http://www.ndatech.com/mersenne/signup.htm Mersenne

Mersenne: Error 2250

2002-11-14 Thread Nathan Russell
I'm getting a lot of error 2250's in the past few days. I have enough work to keep me busy until January, so this isn't the end of the world, but I still wonder - is it a known issue? Thanks much! Nathan _ Unsubscribe

Mersenne: Update on my stability issues

2002-11-11 Thread Nathan Russell
No, not me, my computer ;-) But seriously - I did two things, took a plate out of an empty slot, and bought a can of compressed air, which I'd never used before. When I used the compressed air, besides giving me a headache for the past hour (I have a *tiny* dorm room), it knocked a lot of dust

Re: Mersenne: Update on my stability issues

2002-11-11 Thread Nathan Russell
On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:25:53 -0500, I wrote: I'm now testing M132049, and the only error so far has been this exponent is not assigned to us. If the system finishes all the Mersennes (much) below 3Mbits without bluescreening, I'm going to run the two 3M primes, and then bring it back to LL

Mersenne: Update

2002-11-11 Thread Nathan Russell
Looks like things are resolved - I'm more than halfway through the 64K FFT's self-test, and no errors so far. Probably, again, the tiny exponents were sitting totally in the L2 cache (or being prefetched to it) and thus were putting more load on the CPU than normal LL work would do. If

Re: Mersenne: Modularising Prime95/mprime - a path to broader development.

2002-10-29 Thread Nathan Russell
Quoting Brian J. Beesley [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 4. (Important) Ease of implementation on other platforms. Only the core computation stuff really needs to be optimized to all hell. The server comms general control stuff would probably be more than efficient enough if it was implemented in

Re: Mersenne: Torture test allocating hundreds of MB?

2002-10-29 Thread Nathan Russell
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 23:02:34 -, Daran wrote: 2) To better stress main memory, the torture test will now use up to the amount of memory specified in the Options/CPU dialog box. If you haven't allowed it to use this much memory, then it's a bug, otherwise its a feature. Thanks to

Mersenne: Torture test allocating hundreds of MB?

2002-10-28 Thread Nathan Russell
Hi folks, I had some problems with unexpected system crashes after bringing my computer back to school, I think becuase something was knocked out of alignment - it seems to be gone now. However, when I tried to run a torture test to verify that everything was okay, I saw Prime95 suddenly

Re: Mersenne: On v18 factoring

2002-10-23 Thread Nathan Russell
On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 06:52:54 +, Brian J. Beesley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Other people have mentioned the possibility of automatically disengaging or updating the client. I have very serious reservations about this; the problem is that it leaves the system hosting the client wide open to

Re: Mersenne: On v18 factoring

2002-10-22 Thread Nathan Russell
Quoting Gary Edstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Maybe future versions of Prime95 could have the capability of being shutdown from the server when the program does a regular check in. The server could have a list of obsolete userids/machines. Maybe the equivalent of a Test/Stop could be commanded,

Re: Mersenne: My numbers have been re-assigned to someone else...

2002-10-04 Thread Nathan Russell
On Fri, 04 Oct 2002 14:28:14 -0400, George Woltman wrote: The work will not get duplicated if the exponent was picked up by one of the misbehaving v18 clients In that case, I assume that we have to wait for the 90 day timeout and then hope a new client picks it up? Perhaps the next Mersenne

Re: Mersenne: TF - an easy way to cheat

2002-09-21 Thread Nathan Russell
On Sat, 21 Sep 2002 16:33:04 +0100, Daran wrote: One way to avoid this disappointment personally would be to focus solely upon TF or P-1. To the best of my knowledge, there is no way in my version (22.8.1) to set the client to do only P-1. Nathan

Re: Mersenne: Still unable to communicate with server.

2002-08-30 Thread Nathan Russell
On Fri, 30 Aug 2002 20:59:08 +, Brian J. Beesley wrote: Are we losing users? Well, if users can't connect to the server, they're going to be discouraged. Ditto anyone still using Windows 95 - Prime95 v22.3+ has problems since George apparently upgraded his development kit. Well, Win95 is

Re: Mersenne: Are We Losing Members?

2002-08-27 Thread Nathan Russell
On Tue, 27 Aug 2002 22:57:24 -0400, Jeff Woods wrote: On 23 August, we had 18021 accounts and 31701 machines, per the website. Today, 4 days later, we have 17916 accounts and 31511 machines. Personally, I'm unable to contact the PrimeNet server. At first, I thought it was an issue with the

Re: Mersenne: Prime95 as an NT/2000/XP service

2002-06-26 Thread Nathan Russell
At 09:40 AM 6/26/2002 -0700, John R Pierce wrote: B) prime95.exe is the GUI... it can either call the DLL directly (win9x systems), or invoke it as a system service if on a NT derived system. if the DLL is running as a service, prime95 can exit and restart all day long without affecting the

Re: Mersenne: Major slowdown need help!!

2002-04-22 Thread Nathan Russell
At 06:19 AM 4/22/2002 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been running Prime95 on my 2 pc's since January 2002, I started using it as a benchmark to test the system I just built and ended up starting my own team on 2 pcs. My new system has an AMD Athalon 1400mhz processor and has been crunching

Re: Mersenne: /. article

2002-02-28 Thread Nathan Russell
At 08:56 AM 2/27/2002 +, Brian J Beesley wrote: 1 an increase in the rate at which the NFS people are factoring awkward Mersenne numbers; I might point to the primenumbers Yahoogroup, which recently had a discussion to the effect that NFSnet might be restarting fairly soon Nathan

Re: Mersenne: CNET coverage of M39: Very good

2001-12-14 Thread Nathan Russell
At 07:13 AM 12/14/2001 +, Daran wrote: So what are the other 137,000 faster than P90 machines doing? Regards Daran That's a great point. Are there huge numbers of GIMPS members out there running machines not capable of running windows 98? Nathan

Re: Mersenne: Moving an assignment

2001-12-12 Thread Nathan Russell
At 12:41 PM 12/12/2001 -0800, Mary Conner wrote: How would I go about giving an exponent I've been assigned to someone else? From previous discussions, it seems as though PrimeNet would reject the assignment as not belonging to him, but I've seen exponents moved from one account to another

Re: Mersenne: But....but...when is 3^x - 2 prime?

2001-12-06 Thread Nathan Russell
At 05:26 PM 12/6/2001 -0500, Paradox wrote: 1) I have a P4 1.9 GHz with PC800 ram that is testing an exponent in the 333X range, and it is getting approximately 0.180 sec/iteration when completely idle on Windows 2000. According to the benchmark on mersenne.org, it should be around 0.143. I

Re: Mersenne: More on M#39

2001-12-06 Thread Nathan Russell
At 12:50 AM 12/7/2001 +, Daran wrote: - Original Message - From: George Woltman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 4:50 PM Subject: Mersenne: More on M#39 I presume Scott will now try get the story really rolling in the press. Let's wish

Mersenne: Correction regarding 'p-1 records' thread

2001-12-05 Thread Nathan Russell
Several list members have been kind enough to point out to me that 2^n is the smallest n+1 bit number - not the smallest n bit number - in the saeme way that 10^1 is the smallest 2-digit number. Nathan _ Unsubscribe list

Re: Mersenne: New exponents

2001-12-05 Thread Nathan Russell
At 08:40 PM 12/5/2001 -0500, George Woltman wrote in reply to Mary Conner: On a purely technical note, In the event that the other person does eventually check back in, is there a mechanism in place to either tell his machine or mine that it should abandon the exponent No. The server never

Re: Mersenne: New exponents

2001-12-04 Thread Nathan Russell
At 10:19 AM 12/4/2001 -0500, George Woltman wrote: If you find a new prime smaller than M39, you have found something *really* rare - an out-of-order Mersenne prime. Only one of those as ever been found when Welsh and Colquitt found M110503. Some argue that M4253 was found out-of-order, but

RE: Mersenne: Re: Factoring benefit/cost ratio

2001-12-04 Thread Nathan Russell
At 06:11 PM 12/4/2001 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure. Not quite the same since there appears to be no certificate of primality, but on 30 Aug 2001 there was a message on this list to the effect that M727 (c219) = prp98.prp128. Does anyone know how much CPU time was spent? So much ECM

Re: Mersenne: p-1 records

2001-12-04 Thread Nathan Russell
At 10:28 PM 12/4/2001 +0100, Henk Stokhorst wrote: (as part of a listing of factors found by himself) 12348829 103 F 9722991869324431663702571958950 22-Feb-01 07:48 SCUM C7375CE26 Is this a bug in the reporting software? I don't have the tools to work it out exactly, but a

Re: Mersenne: Re: Mersenne Digest V1 #912

2001-12-03 Thread Nathan Russell
At 07:57 PM 12/2/2001 +, Gordon Spence wrote: A particularly sore point. If we maintained a top savers list whereby for every factor found you were credited with the time an LL test would have taken, then I and the other Lone Mersenne Hunters would pulverise these big university teams.

Mersenne: Unverified discovery makes Slashdot.

2001-11-14 Thread Nathan Russell
For better or for worse (I think for better - it should attract a few searchers) the new Mersenne report has made it to the popular technical/open-source/geek news site Slashdot. http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/11/14/1849203mode=nested Sadly, there are a few errors in this article, at

Re: SV: Mersenne: number of processors participating

2001-11-04 Thread Nathan Russell
On Tue, 30 Oct 2001 21:33:59 -0500, Rick Pali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aaron Blosser wrote: Good old sysinternals... they have the neatest tools. Damn straight! I've been using (and loving) PageDefrag since I stumbled on that site. A few other gems have since made their way onto my system...

Re: Mersenne: Re: What will we do when anyone finds a number of 10 million+ digits which is prime?

2001-11-04 Thread Nathan Russell
On Sun, 04 Nov 2001 20:09:20 -0500, Jud McCranie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 01:43 AM 11/5/2001 +0100, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: Speaking of which -- shouldn't we be (statistically) really close to finding a new prime soon? Yes, statistically. You'd expect the next one to be before

Re: Mersenne: Re: What will we do when anyone finds a number of 10 million+ digits which is prime?

2001-11-04 Thread Nathan Russell
On Sun, 04 Nov 2001 21:46:58 -0500, Jud McCranie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 08:48 PM 11/4/2001 -0500, Nathan Russell wrote: Of course, this whole argument makes (as far as I can see) heavy use of the gamblers' fallacy, aka the fallacy of maturation of probabilities (Hey, I lost the last 50

Re: Mersenne: number of processors participating

2001-10-29 Thread Nathan Russell
On Mon, 29 Oct 2001 09:35:40 -0700, Alan Vidmar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, One thing to remember ppl, A LOT of system testers tend to use Prime95 to test overclocking/cooling. I'm sure that *many* abandoned assignments are due to this fact. Due to this usage (which I don't mind BTW,

Re: SV: Mersenne: number of processors participating

2001-10-29 Thread Nathan Russell
On Mon, 29 Oct 2001 17:05:02 -0800, Aaron Blosser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Still the only time I've ever seen Prime95/NTPrime slow down a system is when I was doing some Netmeeting video conferences. With it running, the video conference would run DOG slow. Stop the NTPrime service and

Re: Mersenne: number of processors participating

2001-10-27 Thread Nathan Russell
(Sorry Steve, I meant to send this to the list) On Sat, 27 Oct 2001 21:11:51 -0500, Steve Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Henk, I don't have a consistent set of statistics, but I do save the world test status page every few months. So I can tell you that on 2-apr-2001 it showed 38652 machines

Re: Mersenne: Mprime crash

2001-10-26 Thread Nathan Russell
On Fri, 26 Oct 2001 09:31:15 +0100, David Jaggard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Presumably a badly written Linux driver can cause the same problems as a badly written Windows driver. IIRC, Linux drivers that are kernel modules do run in real mode; someone on the list please correct me if I'm wrong.

Re: FW: Mersenne: Re: Factoring Failure?

2001-10-03 Thread Nathan Russell
On Wed, 03 Oct 2001 18:29:52 -0700, Gerry Snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But, at least in theory, every Mersenne number proven non-prime will eventually be factored. Again, to me, so what? At least the LL test showed that further factoring activity would eventually succeed. It might be

Re: FW: Mersenne: Re: Factoring Failure?

2001-10-03 Thread Nathan Russell
On Tue, 2 Oct 2001 19:52:42 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However if it could be established that all the missed factors reported were the work of one user, perhaps it would be worth fixing the database to force rerunning of trial factoring for those factoring assignments run by that user

Re: Mersenne: Prime Net Server

2001-09-10 Thread Nathan Russell
On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 19:56:34 +0200, Jörg Thomsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, it isn't that easy at all. The default parameter for networkretries is, afaik, 10 minutes. So most clients try to connect every 10 minutes until thy got a timeout. And the timeout seems to be very long :-/. I think

Re: Mersenne: Multithreaded?

2001-09-10 Thread Nathan Russell
On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 19:44:31 -0700, Bob Margulies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That wasn't my experience. During the outage, I'd get the message that it was trying to contact the server. Then it would sit there for 6 minutes, doing nothing, then state that it would try again in an hour, then pick

Mersenne: M(2) - composite?!

2001-07-31 Thread Nathan Russell
Hi all, I'm a bit puzzled. The other day, I donated blood and kept my mind busy by doing LL tests on a few exponents mentally. I kept getting the result that the LL test for M(2) ends up resulting in a repeating value of -1, and certainly cannot ever become zero. Am I missing something really

Mersenne: Re: [PrimeNumbers] RSA

2001-07-30 Thread Nathan Russell
On Mon, 30 Jul 2001 11:45:26 -0700 (PDT), Pavlos S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It has been a while since RSA labs published new factoring challenges..Does anyone know if there is any project going on at the moment for these challenges? (probably with the help of the Number Field Sieve)

Re: Mersenne: Re: scientific american

2001-07-22 Thread Nathan Russell
On Sun, 22 Jul 2001 17:39:31 +0200, Steinar H. Gunderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jul 22, 2001 at 04:53:50PM +0200, mohk wrote: Are we alone? 1) no, we found something 2) dunno :) Are there more than 38 (aren't we at 38 now? ;-) ) Mersenne primes? 1) No, we found something. 2) Dunno

Re: Mersenne: scientific american

2001-07-22 Thread Nathan Russell
On Sun, 22 Jul 2001 05:48:52 -0500, Steve Harris wrote: Yes the article does go into great detail re Beowulf clusters, but the penultimate paragraph contains: An equally important trend is the development of networks of PCs that contribute their processing power to a collective task. An example

Re: Mersenne: Would you....

2001-06-19 Thread Nathan Russell
On Wed, 19 Jun 2002 05:57:45 -0400, vincent mooney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: George, would you consider adding Mersenne Number Tests - Version 21.1.1 either after the Waiting xx seconds for boot to complete (e.g., 13 or 22 or 30 or whatever) or after Resuming primality test of nnn... so

Re: Mersenne: SUMOUT errors

2001-06-08 Thread Nathan Russell
Thanks to all who helped me with the SUMOUT issue. For a variety of reasons, I bit the bullet and bought a hardware, external modem. Since doing so, I haven't had any problems (in fact, I had no problems after posting my first message, so it may have been something transitory involving the

Re: Mersenne: Different results

2001-05-18 Thread Nathan Russell
tests Prime95's ability to test numbers of all sizes. Regards, Nathan Russell _ Unsubscribe list info -- http://www.scruz.net/~luke/signup.htm Mersenne Prime FAQ -- http://www.tasam.com/~lrwiman/FAQ-mers

Re: Mersenne: Different results

2001-05-18 Thread Nathan Russell
On Fri, 18 May 2001 10:38:49 -0400, I wrote: This issue, at least, I can deal with. The two results are the same, but as it happens, in order to reduce the chance of a fatal code bug, Prime95 'shifts' the initial inputs into its calculations by a certain amount; that is why the last number in

Re: Mersenne: Spacing between mersenne primes

2001-05-18 Thread Nathan Russell
On Fri, 18 May 2001 14:47:49 -0400, George Woltman wrote: Another way to look at it. Roughly speaking supercomputers owned the region below 1.3M, GIMPS above that. We've roughly tested three doublings 1.3M to 2.6M, 2.6M to 5.2M, 5.2M to 10.4M. There are 1.78 an expected Mersenne primes per

Mersenne: Another ECM question

2001-05-17 Thread Nathan Russell
Is it (at least) theoretically possible that some larger factors are unfindable with ECM due to the limited number of sigma producable by George's random number generator? Nathan _ Unsubscribe list info --

Mersenne: [OT] (fwd) [PrimeNumbers] Proth 6.6

2001-05-17 Thread Nathan Russell
For those who are interested, Yves Gallot has released Proth 6.6, which has great speed-ups for some architectures. His post to the PrimeNumbers list follows. Regards, Nathan Proth 6.6 is on the Web. This new release detects CPU with L2 cache on die (new PIII and Celeron, P4) and with

Re: Overriding assigned exponent type (was Re: Mersenne: Re: 26 exponents)

2001-05-15 Thread Nathan Russell
On Mon, 14 May 2001 23:33:48 +0200, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 02:00:02PM -0700, Aaron Blosser wrote: I fear that many folks may not be aware of the list, or find that subscribing seems too hard (odd as that may sound to us experts :) Or perhaps being set back by the

Mersenne: SUMOUT errors

2001-05-15 Thread Nathan Russell
In the course of a single P-1 run, I've gotten 3 SUMOUT errors: [Tue May 15 08:20:24 2001] SUMOUT error occurred. [Tue May 15 12:04:41 2001] SUMOUT error occurred. [Tue May 15 20:05:15 2001] SUMOUT error occurred. In the past fifteen months with GIMPS, I had gotten only two errors. I can't help

Re: Mersenne: Re: 26 exponents

2001-05-14 Thread Nathan Russell
On Mon, 14 May 2001 00:20:47 +0100, Daran wrote: As someone currently running a legacy machine, (It's taking 4-5 months to run double-checks in the range under consideration,) I have some thoughts on this. First of all, as Jud notes, the 'elitism' is already there, in that different machines

Re: Mersenne: missing exponents?

2001-05-14 Thread Nathan Russell
On Mon, 14 May 2001 17:27:19 -0700, Aaron Blosser wrote: On 14 May 2001, at 19:04, Brian J. Beesley wrote: There is already a mechanism where people can opt in or out of being notified if an assignment is due to expire. There is? At the risk of looking dim, what is it? In the user

Re: Mersenne: Re: 26 exponents

2001-05-14 Thread Nathan Russell
On Sat, 12 May 2001 16:04:17 -0400, Jud McCranie wrote: At 03:26 PM 5/12/2001 -0400, Nathan Russell wrote: I think that's more of a 'quick fix', and might make new participants feel that GIMPS doesn't trust them. Yes, but a new user need not know that they don't get an exponent that has

Re: Mersenne: missing exponents?

2001-05-14 Thread Nathan Russell
On Mon, 14 May 2001 18:17:10 -0700, Aaron Blosser wrote: Hmm... well, then again, I'm looking at the NTPrime. I've only got one machine running Prime95, and it's been so long... I thought it had all the same options though, but I could just be terribly mistaken. Running NTSetup (part of the

Re: Mersenne: Re: 26 exponents

2001-05-14 Thread Nathan Russell
On Mon, 14 May 2001 20:23:45 -, Brian J. Beesley wrote: On 14 May 2001, at 8:45, Nathan Russell wrote: First of all, as Jud notes, the 'elitism' is already there, in that different machines get treated differently in the assignments that they are given. (To clarify, I did not write

Re: Mersenne: missing exponents?

2001-05-13 Thread Nathan Russell
On Sat, 12 May 2001 16:38:47 -0400, Jud McCranie wrote: At 08:14 PM 5/12/2001 +, Brian J. Beesley wrote: rather small, so the reason a third or fourth run is neccessary is very probably because results with mismatching residuals are being submitted for some reason. Most probably random

Re: Mersenne: missing exponents?

2001-05-13 Thread Nathan Russell
On Sat, 12 May 2001 10:22:06 -0400, George Woltman wrote: Why did this affect the server's counts? Well, that's a long story. It has to do with design decisions (compromises actually) made at Primenet's inception. Primenet's database is a subset of the master database which I maintain 3000

Re: Mersenne: Re: 26 exponents

2001-05-12 Thread Nathan Russell
On Sat, 12 May 2001 14:20:36 -0400, Jud McCranie wrote: At 01:49 PM 5/12/2001 -0400, George Woltman wrote: In my last email, I alluded to how the server has some strange behavior when the double-checking and first-time testing ranges overlap. One such glitch is that if one of these 26

Re: Mersenne: Re: Mersenne Digest V1 #843

2001-04-25 Thread Nathan Russell
On Thu, 26 Apr 2001 06:34:07 +0200 (MET DST), Hans Riesel wrote: Hi everybody, If 2^p-1 is known to be composite with no factor known, then so is 2^(2^p-1)-1. For that matter, the same argument can be made with regard to 2^(2^R-1)-2 for some RSA factoring challange number R, and probably

Re: Mersenne: [slightly OT] Web discussion about distributed computing

2001-04-23 Thread Nathan Russell
(Sprry Spike, I mistyped the list address the first time on the copy i sent to you) On Sun, 22 Apr 2001 20:37:11 -0700, Spike Jones wrote: Nathan Russell wrote: http://www.half-empty.org/servlet/LoadPage?pageID=ideaideaid=1644sortmode=3viewmode=3 I thought the prime community might want

Mersenne: [slightly OT] Web discussion about distributed computing

2001-04-22 Thread Nathan Russell
I just posted an article on one of my favorite discussion boards, known as Half-Empty, about distributed computing, asking people on the site to vote for, and post comments about, their favorite project. http://www.half-empty.org/servlet/LoadPage?pageID=ideaideaid=1644sortmode=3viewmode=3 I

Re: [Fwd: Re: Mersenne: Distributed Computing Mandatory For Juno's Free Users]

2001-04-20 Thread Nathan Russell
On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:15:13 -0700, Aaron Blosser wrote: perhaps just have Prime95 update some SNMP counters... I think it'd be "neato" to use MRTG to track various counters of the machines I have running Prime95/NTPrime. Then you're just offloading the task of doing charts and stuff to some

Re: Mersenne: Juno Warning

2001-04-17 Thread Nathan Russell
On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:49:49 -0700, Aaron Blosser wrote: "Should I be worried about Juno downloading data and software to my computer?" No. Juno has been downloading data and software to your computer since the day you first subscribed. Gotta give 'em credit for being honest. Dang, I

Re: Mersenne: Juno Warning [Somewhat OT]

2001-04-17 Thread Nathan Russell
On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:25:45 -0400, Vincent Mooney wrote: Someone on this list earlier warned about Juno using subscriber's computers. Here is a portion of the current Juno Virtual Supercomputer Project data. (BIG snip) No. Juno has been downloading data and software to your computer since

Re: Mersenne: Juno Warning [Somewhat OT]

2001-04-17 Thread Nathan Russell
On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:25:04 -0700, Aaron Blosser wrote: From time to time, we also download new versions of the Juno software to bring your version up to date, and we expect to download new scientific software from time to time as part of the Juno Virtual Supercomputer Project. NO mention

Re: Mersenne: PrimeNet vulnerable to client misconfiguration?

2001-04-16 Thread Nathan Russell
On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:53:33 +0200, Martijn Kruithof wrote: Hello, if that what you describe is the problem the solution is obvious If a client checked out an (set of) exponent(s) and has not returned it yet just re-assign that same (set of) exponent(s). The problem is that the two machines

Re: Mersenne: Is there any life here?

2001-04-16 Thread Nathan Russell
On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:40:41 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NO Mail lately, just wanted to know if the list is active! We're here, all right! Nathan _ Unsubscribe list info -- http://www.scruz.net/~luke/signup.htm

Re: Mersenne: A question about ECM

2001-04-10 Thread Nathan Russell
Regards, Tobias Nathan Russell _ Unsubscribe list info -- http://www.scruz.net/~luke/signup.htm Mersenne Prime FAQ -- http://www.tasam.com/~lrwiman/FAQ-mers

Re: Mersenne: Another question about ECM

2001-04-10 Thread Nathan Russell
On Tuesday 10 April 2001 14:20, you wrote: Hi and thank you mr Leyland for the reply I have another question. If you are doing ECM factoring on a Fermat number with prime95 should you check the "Factor 2^N+1" box, since "Every factor of a Fermat number fermat(n) has the form 2^(n+2) * k +

Re: Mersenne: problems with Solaris nice

2001-03-31 Thread Nathan Russell
On Saturday 31 March 2001 03:09, Brian J. Beesley wrote: On 30 Mar 2001, at 15:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: processes are running. However, under Solaris, something run at priority 19 still tends to get a not-insignificant share of CPU time - a typical number is 15% on a system with one

Re: Mersenne: Re: Getting new GIMPSers

2001-03-25 Thread Nathan Russell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 25 Mar 2001 19:09:02 +0200, Steiner wrote: On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 10:03:01AM -0500, Pierre Abbat wrote: How does idle time accrue *to a process*? Idle time is when the CPU is not executing any process. Just like the brain, your computer

Re: Mersenne: First illegal prime?

2001-03-25 Thread Nathan Russell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 21 Mar 2001 22:10:06 -, Brian J. Beesley wrote (re gray bits): This is an example of the sort of "copy protection" I find acceptable, because I can make as many perfect copies as I like for my own use; nonetheless the copies can be

Re: Mersenne: First illegal prime?

2001-03-25 Thread Nathan Russell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 21 Mar 2001 18:12:49 -, Brian J. Beesley wrote: On 20 Mar 2001, at 18:42, Nathan Russell wrote: Slashdot takes a particular interest in this program because many of their editors and members believe that CSS is an infringment

Re: Mersenne: Re: phew, one way to get cycles...

2001-03-21 Thread Nathan Russell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:57:13 +0100, Steiner wrote: Now, I wonder what this juno.com _is_... and how they possibly could get anybody to accept that. Looking at their pages, they look like an ISP -- but how could possibly their Internet connection be

Re: Mersenne: New exponents and P4 update

2001-03-20 Thread Nathan Russell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:17:02 -0500, George Woltman wrote: Hi all, As promised, the server now has about 1000 small exponents to give out for triple-checks. Out of curiousity, am I the only one who, while running triple-checks by arrangement

Re: Mersenne: First illegal prime?

2001-03-20 Thread Nathan Russell
ddenly start selling videotapes for the Betamax VCR. Regards Brian Beesley Nathan Russell -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use http://www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBOrfq1IvPBwdDF2xqEQKDdgCeJhTSRtZD3bW+im46//1Ye7hkmCcAoL4n PFTvO4XgT1LaUfvTuSG+RBP4 =MQax --

Re: Mersenne: Ways to increase recruitment.

2001-03-11 Thread Nathan Russell
On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 12:03:47 -0500, Joshua Zelinsky wrote: The vast majority of computers still aren't doing any form of distributed computing. Here are a few suggestions to help increase GIMPS participation: 1. Get people at major universities + colleges to become "active recruiters,"

Re: Mersenne: Security of prime95 + electricity costs.

2001-03-11 Thread Nathan Russell
On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 23:32:03 +0100, Martijn Kruithof wrote: I have verified the possibility of a buffer overflow exploit in primenet.c (used in linuxs mprime) It seems NOT vurneralbe (so it seems safe to me) NO buffer overflow is likely to occur. Notwithstanding I am running mprime as user

Re: Mersenne: Security of prime95 + electricity costs.

2001-03-11 Thread Nathan Russell
. However many laptops appear to turn on an extra cooling fan almost immediately a program which makes use of the FPU starts. My desktop does the same - the sound changes noticably when a distributed computing program is running. Nathan Russell

Re: Mersenne: hah

2001-02-18 Thread Nathan Russell
On Sun, 18 Feb 2001 02:24:36 -0600, you wrote: I for one found my way to the Prime95 project through overclocking. In the OCing community Prime95 has been considered the single best stress test tool available for some time now (especially when used in conjunction with a game that makes heavy

Re: Mersenne: hah

2001-02-18 Thread Nathan Russell
On Sun, 18 Feb 2001 07:02:09 -, Brian Beesley wrote: I know what you mean ... but the fact is there's no such thing as _bad_ publicity. True enough. However I do wonder how much of the recycling of expired exponents is due to people picking up Prime95 just to run a hardware test. The

Re: Mersenne: hah

2001-02-18 Thread Nathan Russell
a 300 MHz PII takes about half as long to run as a typical LL assignment on a 1.2 GHz Athlon. Personally I don't feel this is unreasonable. Of course, the 1.2 Ghx Athlon is right at the top of the "state of the art", while systems well slower than a PII are stil

Re: Mersenne: [Mersenne] WorkToDo file

2001-02-18 Thread Nathan Russell
On Sun, 18 Feb 2001 13:31:50 -0500, Jud McCranie wrote: I've edited my WorkToDo file to put the tests in order so that the ones that take the least time will be done first. Will my doing this mess anything up? Not to my knowledge. The one thing to be careful of, however, is that if you have

Re: Mersenne: hah

2001-02-17 Thread Nathan Russell
On Sat, 17 Feb 2001 14:42:17 -0800, you wrote: This is mildly amusing. http://radified.com/Overclocking/oldest_overclocker.htm read the text below the picture, specifically, the 3rd paragraph :) -jrp This reminded me of a discussion I had with a friend. He mentioned he used SETI: "Ever

Re: Mersenne: P4 speed and implications thereof

2001-02-12 Thread Nathan Russell
On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:29:01 -0500, you wrote: This frankly makes me wonder how much longer there will be a place in GIMPS for slower machines. I'm not saying that's a bad thing - after all, 486s and original pentiums were the workforce when GIMPS began, and I wouldn't feel comfortable with the

Mersenne: P4 speed and implications thereof

2001-02-11 Thread Nathan Russell
Let's assume that the P4 is, as George estimates, capable of doing the 512K FFT at 0.04 iterations per second. In this case, with some back-of-the-envelope calculations, I estimate that a thousand P4s (which might well be on PrimeNet in a year, or a little more - the P4 is approaching the

Re: Mersenne: P4 speed and implications thereof

2001-02-11 Thread Nathan Russell
Jud, you wrote: I wonder how many people are going to have P4s. Presently, the Athlon is faster for most things, and cheaper. I don't know if the P4 will pull ahead of AMD chips for most things, so will people buy them? My understanding is that they are designed to perform well for

Re: Mersenne: Re: screen savers

2001-02-09 Thread Nathan Russell
On Fri, 09 Feb 2001 17:56:26 EST, you wrote: Just my 2 cents' worth with respect to the screen saver proposals: how about the following? 1) (This is along the lines of the popular "swarm of bees" screensaver) Have some bee (or other - perhaps allow the user to choose from a menu) icons move

Re: Mersenne: idea for a new prime95 version, QA, primenet etc

2001-02-03 Thread Nathan Russell
Jeff Woods wrote: At 04:48 PM 2/3/01 -0500, you wrote: After hanging around the Anandtech DC forum for awhile, I'm convinced that this completion time "problem" might be GIMPS biggest hurdle to getting more participation. Very few "loonies" like us are willing to wait 14 months for

Re: Mersenne: idea for a new prime95 version

2001-02-03 Thread Nathan Russell
Alexander Kruppa wrote: "Brian J. Beesley" wrote: Some people have indicated they'd like a version of the program with a pretty screen-saver interface. Fair enough, provided we can keep the "classic" version without the extra overhead. The screen-saver idea is important for another

Re: Mersenne: idea for a new prime95 version, QA, primenet etc

2001-02-03 Thread Nathan Russell
Ken Kriesel wrote: At 09:23 AM 2/3/2001 -, "Brian J. Beesley" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: George has announced the development of new FFT code optimised for Pentium 4. The FFT code is the true heart of the program: it's really hard for me to put into words just how much we all owe to

Mersenne: 2000 - first calender year without a Mersenne

2000-12-31 Thread Nathan Russell
Well, unless there is an announcement within the next few hours, 2000 will be the first calender year in the history of GIMPS without a Mersenne prime. Is the number of searchers, and the power of their hardware, increasing enough to keep up with the increased runtimes and (slightly) decreased

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