Re: Mersenne: Old files in my mprime dirs

2003-04-01 Thread Chris Marble
Brian J. Beesley wrote:
 
 On Sunday 30 March 2003 21:04, you wrote:
  I've been running mprime on Linux for a bit less than 2 years now.
  I was looking at the directory on one box and found some ancient files:
  mE013037.001
  mF320219.001
 
  These are from a dual CPU box.  The leading m suggests they're from
  factoring but but file sizes are 3.5 to 3.9 MB.  There's been a database
 
 Very probably P-1 factoring...

With a dual CPU box if you're doing P-1 on both CPUs at once you get such
a file on the mprime -B -A1 process.  It's just happened to me again.
I checked my old prim*.log files and all those exponents were turned in.
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Re: Mersenne: Old files in my mprime dirs

2003-03-31 Thread Eric Hahn
Daran wrote:
 Actually the .001 extension would be expected... especially
 if running MPrime on a dual CPU box... with one instance using
 the -A1 switch...  Using the -A switch will put an extension
 with the instance after it... No -A switch... no extension...

OK.  I've never used a Dual CPU Box.

Actually... it doesn't matter whether it's a dual CPU box or
not... it all depends on the -A switch... You could set up
two instances on a single CPU box... and put a Time= line in
the prime.ini file(s)... and have one without the -A switch
running L-L tests at night... and one with the -A switch
running factoring during the day... to reduce memory use...
Note: ECM and P-1 use the -A switch for extensions... but the
L-L tests and trial-factoring do not... L-L will only add an
extension equal to iteration / X  (where x is from
interimfiles=X in prime.ini)... if interimfiles= is present...

 However... to complete the P-1s... assuming they were initiated
 by a L-L test... adding Pfactor=exponent,66 lines to the
 WORK0001.INI would do it... no ,1 is needed... since it would
 indicate the P-1 is complete...

Not for Pfactor assignments it doesn't.  Here's what undoc.txt
says
[...]
I have verified that this is correct.  A '1' in the last place
causes it to choose DC limits.

OK... but if the test were in progress... and not completed...
MPrime has already chosen the limits... Restarting it with the
DC limits... which might be different... would cause MPrime to
restart the P-1 tests from scratch...  A factor might be found...
but if Chris didn't want to go thru the trouble... he might as
well delete the files... since when double-checking gets there...
the P-1 will be done... since PrimeNet doesn't know it was even
started...

One question:  If Chris is going to finish them on a different
 - single CPU machine, would he have to remove the extension?

Not if Chris used the -A1 switch to run the tests... but it
would be easier to just remove the extension... and not use
the -A switch entirely... if using a single CPU box... and
only one instance of MPrime...

Eric



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Re: Mersenne: Old files in my mprime dirs

2003-03-30 Thread Eric Hahn
Chris Marble wrote:
I've been running mprime on Linux for a bit less than 2
years now. I was looking at the directory on one box
and found some ancient files:
mE013037.001
mF320219.001
mF550789.001
mF614243.001
mF687599.001

These are from a dual CPU box.  The leading m suggests
they're from factoring but but file sizes are 3.5 to 3.9 MB.

These are from P-1 runs... not factoring...  The first letter
will determine the test... E = ECM... M = P-1...
P = Trial-Factoring OR L-L...  Trial-factoring files are
always 32 bytes...

The fact that they are 3.5 to 3.9 MB indicates... that they
all are P-1 tests in progress... and not completed...
Prime95 (and MPrime) will delete P-1 files automatically
if run as part of the L-L test...  If they were P-1 tests
run by themselves... and completed... they would be from
1.75 to 2 MB...

You are correct... however... in assuming that E=14 and
F=15... in this case...  To check what happened to these
exponents and the results... and whether they were reported
to PrimeNet... you will have to look at the RESU0001.TXT and
PRIM0001.LOG...  RESU0001.TXT will give whatever results
Prime95/Mprime came up with... and PRIM0001.LOG will tell
what results... in any... were reported to PrimeNet...

What happened that these files were left around a year ago?

If the P-1 was part of an L-L test... there could've been
a crash or something... that prevented Prime95/Mprime from
completing the tests... and therefore not deleting the files...

Eric


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Re: Mersenne: Old files in my mprime dirs

2003-03-30 Thread Daran
On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 01:04:10PM -0800, Chris Marble wrote:

 I've been running mprime on Linux for a bit less than 2 years now.
 I was looking at the directory on one box and found some ancient files:
 mE013037.001
 mF320219.001
 mF550789.001
 mF614243.001
 mF687599.001
 
 These are from a dual CPU box.  The leading m suggests they're from
 factoring but but file sizes are 3.5 to 3.9 MB...

They'll be P-1 save files.

 There's been a database
 sync so I don't have results for 14013037 (assuming E=14, F=15) on my page.
 Where would I check to see that all these exponents had been completed so
 I could delete these old files?

They've probably had a first time test, but are unlikely to have been DCed. 
The file ftp://mersenne.org/lucas_v.zip will tell you, but I don't one which
is up-to-date, and it's a multimegabyte download.

I do have the the latest pminus1.txt file, though, and these exponents
aren't listed.

 What happened that these files were left around a year ago?

They shouldn't have an extension, so I'm gessing.   Backup and restore? 
Recovered from a damaged filesystem?

My recommendation would be to complete the P-1 as though
they were DCs.  Just remove the extensions and put Pfactor=exponent,66,1
into your P-1 factory's worktodo file.

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Re: Mersenne: Old files in my mprime dirs

2003-03-30 Thread Nick Glover
At 21:14:50, Sunday, 3/30/03, Daran wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 01:04:10PM -0800, Chris Marble wrote:

 I've been running mprime on Linux for a bit less than 2 years now.
 I was looking at the directory on one box and found some ancient files:
 mE013037.001
 mF320219.001
 mF550789.001
 mF614243.001
 mF687599.001
 

 They shouldn't have an extension, so I'm gessing.   Backup and restore? 
 Recovered from a damaged filesystem?

I know that files named pXXX.001 are interim files generated
during the LL test if you have turned this option on in prime.ini (see
undoc.txt for more on this feature).  Perhaps, these files are P-1
interim files?  Just a guess.

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Re: Mersenne: Old files in my mprime dirs

2003-03-30 Thread Eric Hahn
Daran wrote:
Chris Marble wrote:

 What happened that these files were left around a year ago?

They shouldn't have an extension, so I'm gessing.   Backup
and restore?  Recovered from a damaged filesystem?

My recommendation would be to complete the P-1 as though
they were DCs.  Just remove the extensions and put
Pfactor=exponent,66,1 into your P-1 factory's worktodo file.

Actually the .001 extension would be expected... especially
if running MPrime on a dual CPU box... with one instance using
the -A1 switch...  Using the -A switch will put an extension
with the instance after it... No -A switch... no extension...

However... to complete the P-1s... assuming they were initiated
by a L-L test... adding Pfactor=exponent,66 lines to the
WORK0001.INI would do it... no ,1 is needed... since it would
indicate the P-1 is complete...

Eric

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Re: Mersenne: Old files in my mprime dirs

2003-03-30 Thread Daran
On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 09:58:15PM -0800, Eric Hahn wrote:

 Daran wrote:
 Chris Marble wrote:

 Actually the .001 extension would be expected... especially
 if running MPrime on a dual CPU box... with one instance using
 the -A1 switch...  Using the -A switch will put an extension
 with the instance after it... No -A switch... no extension...

OK.  I've never used a Dual CPU Box.

 However... to complete the P-1s... assuming they were initiated
 by a L-L test... adding Pfactor=exponent,66 lines to the
 WORK0001.INI would do it... no ,1 is needed... since it would
 indicate the P-1 is complete...

Not for Pfactor assignments it doesn't.  Here's what undoc.txt says

#You can do P-1 factoring by adding lines to worktodo.ini:
#   Pfactor=exponent,how_far_factored,has_been_LL_tested_once
#For example, Pfactor=1157,64,0

I have verified that this is correct.  A '1' in the last place causes it to
choose DC limits.

One question:  If Chris is going to finish them on a different - single CPU
machine, would he have to remove the extension?

 Eric

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