Re: [meteorite-list] moderator?

2003-10-14 Thread Michael L Blood
To all list members: This list is NOT moderated. It is open to any and all. There are a set of rules. If someone CHRONICALLY violates those rules - especially the one about obscenity, EVENTUALLY Art will suspend or permanently remove that person from the list. Art is VERY patient and very much

Re: [meteorite-list] moderator?

2003-10-14 Thread Pekka Savolainen
Hello Dave and the list, perhaps the dealers should be moderated to their own list...;- I have a bad feeling, I have seen this also before in coin-collecting. When Europe changed the currency unit to euro, there was a huge boom in collecting, many new collectors, lot of discussion and trading.

FYI name !!! Re: [meteorite-list] eBay - Auctions ending soon from POLANDMET

2003-10-14 Thread Michel Franco
Dear list I sold the stone to Marcin under the tempory name SWA 01003. He asked me what could be the definte name. I said to him that I was in discussion to have it named SAXXYYY but this name is not adopted yet by the Nom Com. I made the remark to him some months ago and he starts again to

Re: [meteorite-list] What Would Nininger Do?

2003-10-14 Thread joseph_town
Sir, When I hear squat like that I wish I had a small device as portayed in the Simpsons cartoon that has a button to press saying, go to hell, go to hell. Bill Kieskowski __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: FYI name !!! Re: [meteorite-list] eBay - Auctions ending soon from POLANDMET

2003-10-14 Thread joseph_town
Michel, Forgive my naivity. On what criteria and upon what schedule do you suppose your L3.8 will be properly classified? Bill Kieskowski Dear list I sold the stone to Marcin under the tempory name SWA 01003. He asked me what could be the definte name. I said to him that I was in

RE: [meteorite-list] moderator?

2003-10-14 Thread mark ford
Everyone on this list, I Suggest we now all draw a line under this thread(s) as from this moment. It is doing nobody any good, least of all the hobby. ** If people are considering leaving the list then it is time to STOP IT ** hey, 'METEORITES' remember those? MF

Re: FYI name !!! Re: [meteorite-list] eBay - Auctions ending soon from POLANDMET

2003-10-14 Thread Michel Franco
Bill, First point: the meteoriet is classified: it is a L3.8 your question certainly about official publication by tye Nomenclature Committee. I have no action nor influence on the Nom Com. I had plenty of discussions with Jutta Zipfel and Luigi Folco. Who are both in harge of the NWA 's (

[meteorite-list] Re: What Would Nininger Do?

2003-10-14 Thread Peter Marmet
K.Kichinka wrote: Open Letter to Mike Farmer: I've just got around to reading your letters of the weekend to the list and myself. You have insulted and threatened me on this list. I am puzzled by some of your statements. I want to answer some of your questions. I demand an explanation or an

[meteorite-list] re: Photo of Fiery Object Over UK [no longer] Mystifies Scientists

2003-10-14 Thread Marco Langbroek
Rob Matson wrote: Robert Nemiroff and Jerry Bonnell (the guys who run NASA's Astronomy Picture of the Day website), shouldn't feel too bad about their premature assessment that Jonathan Burnett's image was of a bolide. Yes, they may have jumped the gun in the interest of getting the

[meteorite-list] Last India report.

2003-10-14 Thread Michael Farmer
Well, it has been oin heck of a week, I never knew that this little meteorite hunt would open me up to a broadside barrage from all sides and unexpected people. Controversy is good though, it forces us to think a little. I am leaving India in a couple of hours, flying to Singapore, then to Tokyo,

[meteorite-list] Franco L3.8

2003-10-14 Thread Pierre Rochette
Dear list this is to confirm that the L3.8 M. Franco is selling under the unofficial name SWA01003 (or no name at all) has been examined by various experts and classified in agreement with the Nom Com rules (by A. Jambon in Paris). What delayed the publication in MetBull seems to be that M.

Re: [meteorite-list] moderator?

2003-10-14 Thread Steve Schoner
Set up a completely moderated, and closed dealer list, of dealers only. Sounds like a good idea. But will it solve the problems here? Hummm.. Steve Schoner /amsPekka Savolainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Dave and the list,perhaps the dealers should be moderated to their own list...;-I have

[meteorite-list] Re: NP Article, 09-1963 3 Lakes in Canada Meteorite Craters

2003-10-14 Thread Francis Graham
Dear Mark Bostic and list, Mark, you post the neatest articles! Brings back memories. Alvin Cohen was one of my profs at U. Pgh. Like Murray Kornhauser, he was an early expert in his field that deserves more recognition-- in Cohen's case, meteor crater identification and lunar studies. I

[meteorite-list] Meester-Cornelis and Utrecht

2003-10-14 Thread Dave Schultz
Greetings from chilly and rainy Northern Indiana! :( Looking for samples of Meester-Cornelis, an H5 chondrite from Java, Indonesia, and Utrecht, an L6 chondrite from the Netherlands. These are two of my birthday meteorites and haven`t been able to find them listed on anyones website! I just

[meteorite-list] RE: Pads for 2x2 boxes

2003-10-14 Thread Michael Gallant
Hello List, I had the pleasure of helping out a sweet lady, Anne Black, with her need for a padded 2x2 specimen box. We, (my daughter and I) built a quickie fixture to fabricate a two piece pad. The base layer is a 1/2 thick white foam topped with a white 1/16 thick felt. I think, similar to the

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: NP Article, 09-1963 3 Lakes in Canada Meteorite Craters

2003-10-14 Thread MARK BOSTICK
Thank you Francis for your kind words and the background information you have provided the last couple days. Mark Bostick "The Big Collector" - Original Message - From: Francis Graham Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 11:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: NP

[meteorite-list] Makeshift membrane box

2003-10-14 Thread Michael Gallant
Hello List, What I am about to suggest does not have all of the positive attributes of a true HQ membrane case, such as the one offered by Ron Hartman and in no way should it be considered an equal substitute. This idea is for those, like me, that are in need of temporary protection (from the

[meteorite-list] who's near Westerville, Ohio?

2003-10-14 Thread Marco Langbroek
Hello, Anyone here nere Westerville, Ohio, willing to check out a stone? Someone mailed me tru the DMS website about a heavy magnetic stone he found with his metal detector. The pictures he sent were inconclusive, but perhaps someone should check it out. Contact me off-list for his e-mail

[meteorite-list] NP Article, 01-1919 MD Excited Over Meteor

2003-10-14 Thread MARK BOSTICK
Paper: Frederick Post City: Frederick, Maryland Date: Monday, January 13, 1919 Page: 1 MD. Excited Over Meteor Countains Believe Object Struck Earth At Mt. Airy Last Night BRILLIANT LIGHT VISIBLE THROUGH ALL OF MARYLAND Baltimore And Ohio Railroad Signal Tower Building At Mr. Airy Junction

[meteorite-list] New Orleans 23rd Sept 2003

2003-10-14 Thread Dave Harris
Hi, I MAY be acquiring up to 30g of New Orleans fragments, some crusted and mostly quite small, in the next week or so. These specimens were retrieved via a big magnet from the region of the fall by a geologist who works at the Uni of New Orleans and given to me as a gift. I am hoping too, to

[meteorite-list] website update

2003-10-14 Thread Sergey Vasiliev
Hello List, I started to update my website www.sv-meteorites.com Regards, Sergey __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

[meteorite-list] Re:edutainment smack-down

2003-10-14 Thread harlan trammell
neat idea! i would suggest that all wanting to beef it out about whatever or who-knows-what show up @ a tough-man contest in jackson , ms on a sat. nite , pay your 6 bucks and jump in to the ring ans settle all once and for all. or maybe they ought to have a tough-man contest in tucson this year.

[meteorite-list] Back to meteorites..

2003-10-14 Thread tracy latimer
Back when I was first getting into collecting, I purchased a partslice of meteorite that had been labeled as Kem Kem. However, when I got it, I found that a)Kem Kem was only a provisional name and b) it had not been classified yet. Has anyone heard anything further on whether this meteorite

Re: [meteorite-list] Last India report.

2003-10-14 Thread harlan trammell
nice work! forget those attacks-most people are too afraid to do anything confrontational that has even the remotest possibility of pissing someone off and they ,in turn, just sit around lilly-livered, waiting for someone else to do it so they can bitch about it. remember : ( and laser etch this

Re: [meteorite-list] New Orleans 23rd Sept 2003

2003-10-14 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
Pultusk $10/gr. Tenham $1-6/gr. Alfianello $70 - 100/gr. L'Aigle $100-50/gr. Mbale $10- 6 - 3/gr. Siena $200/gr. Vigarano $200-300/gr. Ensisheim $200-150/gr. Wold Cottage $100/gr. etc... etc... Matteo --- Dave Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I MAY be acquiring up to 30g of New Orleans

[meteorite-list] need 200ml etchin' juice hno3

2003-10-14 Thread harlan trammell
bought some killer etchin' juice hno3 solution off this list about years ago. it came w/ EVERYTHING - a complete kit- including safety stuff. anybody sell anything like this? Page a contact’s mobile phone with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE!

[meteorite-list] New Orleans - Pt 2

2003-10-14 Thread Dave Harris
Hi, A response to everyone who responded to the news of the imminent New Orleans fall (too many to email individually!), firstly thanks for the interest and secondly - as soon as I get it I will be photographing it and posting a link I will retain copies of your emails so I know who said they

Re: [meteorite-list] moderator?

2003-10-14 Thread Randy Mils
While we are at it why don't we set up anewlist for people that don't have anything better do do with their lives than police the ebay meteorite listings and bitch about it.Randy From: Steve Schoner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Pekka Savolainen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,Dave Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC:

[meteorite-list] ebay auctions, again

2003-10-14 Thread Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!
Hi there list.I have 7 auctions ending in 3 to 4 hours.This is all chicago time.I added some estherville, a beginners meteorite collection,a sikote-alin piece,and a piece of gail.What is left ending is, pitino,large slice of pampa (a),vyatka, allende, etc.Some real steals out there to be had.Good

Re: [meteorite-list] moderator?

2003-10-14 Thread Steve Schoner
That would be a great idea, too. One can do it free of charge simply by going to Yahoo's Groups and set up a list called "Ebay Meteorites." I don't think there is such a list, but someone who really loves eBay (which I hate) can set it up, make an announcement here from time to time, say once a

Re: FYI name !!! Re: [meteorite-list] eBay - Auctions ending soon from POLANDMET

2003-10-14 Thread PolandMET.com
Hello I sold the stone to Marcin under the tempory name SWA 01003. On eBay You newer write that this is any SWA or something else. Also I dont think that Nom. Com. ever make a SWA class, so this will be SAHARA XX XXX. Becouse first 2 numbers is year of find I sell Your/my meteorites undes

[meteorite-list] L chondrites vs. H and LL

2003-10-14 Thread Matson, Robert
Hi All, I spent some more time exploring the statistics of equilibrated ordinary chondrite recoveries from Antarctica, and discovered an oddity in the mass histogram for L-chondrites: http://members.cox.net/mojave_meteorites/Antarctic_Histogram.jpg Notice the dip in L-chondrite masses between

Re: [meteorite-list] New Orleans 23rd Sept 2003

2003-10-14 Thread Michael Farmer
YAWN, ohh how boring, like a repeating record. Anyone can charge what they darn well please, Matteo, you either buy it or whine like a little baby. Your choice, but we all know where this is going. Mike Farmer --- M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pultusk $10/gr. Tenham

[meteorite-list] silver dry lake

2003-10-14 Thread Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!
Hi again list.I want to publicly thank bob matson for letting me get a hold of a piece of SILVER DRY LAKE.It is a california meteorite found by bob himself.It is a nice 7.8 gram slice with one side with fusion crust.It is full of nice chondrules and is loaded with metal.Thanks again bob for such a

Re: [meteorite-list] Back to meteorites..

2003-10-14 Thread Sharkkb8
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kem Kem was only a provisional name and b) it had not been classified yet. Has anyone heard anything further on whether this meteorite ever became 'legit'? Recognizing that there are twoentirely separateconsiderations - i.e. Classification vsNomCom recognition -

Re: [meteorite-list] L chondrites vs. H and LL

2003-10-14 Thread Starbits
Notice the dip in L-chondrite masses between 10 and 100 grams. By comparison, the histograms for H- and L-chondrites look more like what one would expect: going from right to left, a steadily increasing number of finds as the masses decrease to about 10 grams, with a drop off below this

[meteorite-list] L chondrites vs. H and LL

2003-10-14 Thread Matson, Robert
Hi Eric and List, Maybe instead of a dip at 10-100 grams the chart is showing an overabundance in the 100-1000 gram range. That would also drive the median mass higher. If you plot the L chondrites by either location or recovery year is there one year or location that skews the numbers.

[meteorite-list] A Letter From Blaine Reed

2003-10-14 Thread almitt
Hi list, Blaine has asked me to post a message he has been trying to get to the list for two days in regards to the recent fighting. Since he has no internet access I have agreed to post his remarks. I am simply putting this on for him and responses can go to the list but I hope all this will die

RE: [meteorite-list] New Orleans 23rd Sept 2003

2003-10-14 Thread Matt Morgan
OK, time for me to take a break from this damn LIST. Mike, as much as I like you, I am SICK of reading your's and Matteo's comments. That also goes for all the other parties involved in these idiotic and wasteful discussions. Till some other time.. Matt Morgan -Original Message- From:

RE: [meteorite-list] A Letter From Blaine Reed

2003-10-14 Thread Matt Morgan
There it is. Blaine said it for me. matt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of almitt Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 6:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] A Letter From Blaine Reed Hi list, Blaine has asked me to post a

Re: [meteorite-list] A Letter From Blaine Reed

2003-10-14 Thread Walter Branch
Al and List Al, thank you so much for posting Blaine's letter. It was well written and full of meaning. I just called Blaine and expressed my gratitude toward him as well. I never try to speak for Blaine as he obviously can speak for himself but from my conversation with him, he feels very

[meteorite-list] And now for those interested in space instead of just bitching...

2003-10-14 Thread Howard Wu
Congratuations China! http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3192330.stm Also check out November's Scientific America about tugging asteroids: or see: http://www.b612foundation.org/index.html (Frankly as a meteorite collector this will deprive us of some big falls.) Howard WuWant to chat

[meteorite-list] Updated Antarctic chondrite mass histograms

2003-10-14 Thread Matson, Robert
Hi All, I solved the dip mystery in the Antarctic data -- my plot only included data for chondrites that had both Fa and Fs measured for them. I went back to my original data and extracted ALL the Antarctic equilibrated chondrites that had masses reported -- 10145 of them (vs. 3454 before).

Re: [meteorite-list] moderator?

2003-10-14 Thread Marcia Swanson
Randy and list, How about this? For the good of the List, why don't we just take care of our own shortcomings, individually? We know what they are. Alot less complicated. If someone has a gripe, and they feel they can civillally bring it to the notice of the perpetrator. On-List if necessary,

Re: [meteorite-list] A Letter From Blaine Reed

2003-10-14 Thread Tom aka James Knudson
Hello List, I happen to love the list, but I have noticed something. If I post something about ebay, I get A LOT of responses, some agreeing, but most telling me to stop posting things not pertaining to meteorites. I happen to think Ebay is a huge part of our hobby, but I will no longer post

[meteorite-list] Re: mediator/ Blaine's letter

2003-10-14 Thread WAHLPERRY
Hi List, I joined the list about a year ago and have really learned alot. The list has helped me out tremendoulsy with meteorite related subjects. I hope we don't have to get to the point of needing a mediator. I agree with Marcie re: healthy competition and constructive criticism. I also feel if

Re: [meteorite-list] A Letter change title to a shut in's life

2003-10-14 Thread David Freeman
Dear Tom, and List; It must be Mars proximity, the war, season's change, the world series. All crabby-appleton's, don't be such a bunch of shut in's and give the list and your emotions a break. Go for a walk even. Try more fiber in your diet, geese, what ever works for you, works for me.

Re: [meteorite-list] A Letter change title to a shut in's life

2003-10-14 Thread Tom aka James Knudson
David, They say Americans do not get enough fiber in their diets, That could be it, I am going to eat a bowl of Cheerios right now! : ) Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 - Original Message - From: David Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tom aka James Knudson

Re: [meteorite-list] RE: Mike and Matteo

2003-10-14 Thread Tom aka James Knudson
Hey list, These fights remind me of the Ali vs.Forman fight. You know, when Ali invented his famous tactic! Thanks, TomPeregrineflier The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: mediator/ Blaine's letter

2003-10-14 Thread joseph_town
I agree so much! Being new I am empathic to that. More new members opinions would be a great pleasure to hear. Something I could relate to a bit more. It's a priveledge to listen to the sum total of the knowlege of so many brilliant minds! As so many have said though, many of us newbies are

Re: [meteorite-list] A Letter From Blaine Reed

2003-10-14 Thread CMcdon0923
Remember this, just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you SHOULD do it.  Well said, and along a similar vein.from a bumpersticker I saw : "Just because everybody has one, doesn't mean you have to act like one." Think about it for a secondit'll come to you...

[meteorite-list] RE: Mike and Matteo

2003-10-14 Thread RAYDOBOS
In a message dated 10/15/03 12:26:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the bloody Casper/Farmer fight, the well expressed Bessy/Farmer fight, the Kichinka/Baalke fight, the unfortunate Hupe/Farmer fight, the Matteo/host of collectors fight, the threatening Matteo/Farmer

Re: [meteorite-list] A Letter change title to a shut in's life

2003-10-14 Thread joseph_town
I wonder what a thin section of a low sugar oat meal cookie would look like Dear Tom, and List; It must be Mars proximity, the war, season's change, the world series. All crabby-appleton's, don't be such a bunch of shut in's and give the list and your emotions a break. Go for a walk even.

[meteorite-list] Symposium, N.Mex meteorites

2003-10-14 Thread Fredmeteorhall
This year the 24th Annual New Mexico Mineral Symposium held at Socorro, Nov. 7, 8, and 9, will have two talks on meteorites. Both talks held on Saturday. At 2:00 PM, Meteorite reproductions by Jack Thompson, Jim Hurlbut and Jack Murphy, and Meteorites of New Mexico at 3:30 PM by Bill Nash.

Re: [meteorite-list] A Letter change title to a shut in's life

2003-10-14 Thread joseph_town
Tom, I've noticed that as well. I havn't graphed it yet but I'd say that at least 75% of all newbie questions, asked of the list, get blown off. But talk about a muddy rock on ebay goes on for days! Where is the real concern? Genuine sharing is not always forthcoming for many obvious reasons.

Re: [meteorite-list] A Letter change title to a shut in's life

2003-10-14 Thread joseph_town
Another thing that everyone I'm sure has noticed are ridiculous prices that seem to be pretty consistent on dealer websites. It's a spider/fly mentality. Oh...Geee...This meteorite on ebay is worth how much? I'll just go check all the dealer sites...Oh! NWAXXX sells for 200.00g and its only