[meteorite-list] This is the funniest meteorite dealer I've seen?

2007-04-10 Thread Joe
Hello everyone, I was looking around the internet and came across this link, I think you will get a kick out of it. these are supposed to be meteorites, they do not even resemble meteorites. But he Guarantees these to be authentc. sure hope is is not an IMCA member.

Re: [meteorite-list] using meteor trails

2007-04-10 Thread ted brattstrom
Aloha - Just a quick check here - how many list members are hams? de NH6YK - ted Brattstrom part 2 BTW, the new ham technique is using one of the JT series of software encoding -the old ham technique was voice/cw/hscw (record your morse, accelerate the tape - send - record whatever you

Re: [meteorite-list] To the dreamers

2007-04-10 Thread Dave Freeman mjwy
Dear Gentlemen, List; I experienced an issue with two sides similar to this about ten years ago. Scientific rocks..ones to study, and pretty rocks...ones that require appreciation despite scientific importance. In the real world of total experience, one needs to ideally appreciate both.

Re: [meteorite-list] Re Nevada picture of the day / Reply to Ruben Garcia

2007-04-10 Thread SUSA
You guys are so funny. Even though I totally love and appreciate your knowledge, and insight, I really love these silly conversations. Life is short, and well, just thanks for entertaining me as well as informing me. Susa Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 00:22:46 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [meteorite-list] Possible topic - magnetic rake

2007-04-10 Thread Steve Dunklee
nearly every time any ground disturbance like a large meteorite fall will leave its mark in the soil long after visible signs from the ground have been eroded away. I don't know of any statistics but most times you will only find a man made disturbance like an old pond. I figure any method

Re: [meteorite-list] This is the funniest meteorite dealer I've seen?

2007-04-10 Thread Impactika
In a message dated 4/9/2007 10:37:40 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello everyone, I was looking around the internet and came across this link, I think you will get a kick out of it. these are supposed to be meteorites, they do not even resemble meteorites. But he

[meteorite-list] One more test.

2007-04-10 Thread GREG LINDH
Test. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

[meteorite-list] Just another test - please disregard.

2007-04-10 Thread GREG LINDH
Test. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Re Nevada picture of the day / Reply to Ruben Garcia

2007-04-10 Thread Jerry A. Wallace
Hi Robert, I used to have a nice little marble collection, but then I lost all my marbles. So I next took up collecting space rocks, a natural transition. I've been confused ever since so your letters make perfect sense to me. But Ruben definitely has a good idea. Just lick, stick, then stand

Re: [meteorite-list] fall patterns

2007-04-10 Thread Chris Peterson
Hi Pat- You can't reliably determine anything about the path of an unwitnessed meteor by analyzing a strewn field. That's because the effect of winds can completely erase the effects of the trajectory. As a simple example, you can't distinguish between a meteor that came in at a vertical

Re: [meteorite-list] This is the funniest meteorite dealer I've seen?

2007-04-10 Thread Rob McCafferty
How's this for a quote? SM-30 Magnetic Susceptibility on this meteorite has a Mean Log X of 4.50 which is just out of the range for C/M's , and is more in the range of a CI from Mars !. Wow! Is is actually possible to squeeze any more error filled bullshit into a single sentence? In the

[meteorite-list] AD: DaG731CV3 and DaG698LL5

2007-04-10 Thread Moser Francesco
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Re: [meteorite-list] This is the funniest meteorite dealer I'veseen?

2007-04-10 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, Anne wrote: Can anyone tell me what SM-30 magnetic susceptibility mean log X is? According to: http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~bcohen/publications/LPSC06_SIPI.pdf The instrument used for the measurements is the SM-30 Magnetic Susceptibility Meter, (TERRAPLUS USA INC. 625 Valley Road

Re: [meteorite-list] This is the funniest meteorite dealer I'veseen?

2007-04-10 Thread MexicoDoug
Can anyone tell me what SM-30 magnetic susceptibility mean log X is? http://www.caillou-noir.com/magnetic-susceptibility_SM30.htm Dear Anne, List, This of course is Michel Franco's favorite system for screening meteorites, especially for screening out H-chondrites. Michel has done a great job

Re: [meteorite-list] This is the funniest meteorite dealer I'veseen?

2007-04-10 Thread Randy Korotev
The fellow who made that web site sent me photos of 112 rocks (6.6 Mbytes!) in 2005. Many of the photos he sent (all? I didn't check them all) were the same as the ones on the web site. He asked my opinion about the rocks. I gave him my opinion. He sent me chemical analyses of three of

[meteorite-list] This is the funniest meteorite dealer I've seen

2007-04-10 Thread valparint
Outstanding! I can't decide which is my favorite: the silvery glass thingy that contains a lot of nickel (that's a heck of an alloy) and bubbles (!), and the fabulous piece in Gallery II that looks like it's spawning babies. With proper nurturing it could produce an unending supply of

Re: [meteorite-list] This is the funniest meteorite dealer I've seen?

2007-04-10 Thread Darren Garrison
He's even using the scale cube idea-- with a die of unspecified size! http://www.rocksmuseumonline.com/index.php?pr=WF1 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] This is the funniest meteorite dealer I've seen?

2007-04-10 Thread lebofsky
Hi all: I am excited about the Mars CI/CM. Having studied asteroids as well as Mars and its satellites. I have not problems with this claim. Imagine -- the first documented meteorites from either Deimos or Phobos!! The Russians are wasting their time planning a sample return mission now that we

Re: [meteorite-list] This is the funniest meteorite dealer I've seen?

2007-04-10 Thread Rob McCafferty
--- Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He's even using the scale cube idea-- with a die of unspecified size! http://www.rocksmuseumonline.com/index.php?pr=WF1 Yes but if you run a Heiroglyph Conformity test (HC-29.999 ) on it combined with Oxygen Isotope test, you'll find it is

Re: [meteorite-list] Possible topic - magnetic rake

2007-04-10 Thread ken newton
Steve Dunklee wrote: I also try to figure out the path of previous meteorites by reading as much as I can about the historical falls in old newspapers. As an example when the Paragould meteorite fell it exploded as a bolide over southern Missouri according to most papers yet in the Salem

[meteorite-list] Ad: large ebay sale tonight, over 60 meteorites ending.

2007-04-10 Thread Michael Farmer
Just a few hours until some great meteorites sell on ebay, over 60 meteorites ending tonight, ALL started for one cent! Very nice piece of Dar al Gani 476: http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ130098201047 Fantastic complete slice of Gibeon: http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ130098138453 106 gram complete

Re: [meteorite-list] This is the funniest meteorite dealer I've seen?

2007-04-10 Thread ken newton
Hi, This was one of my attempts (Dec 2005) to reason with M.M. http://home.earthlink.net/~ebaywrong/auction/minor.html With the passing of the Frass Site, it looks as though there are several hopefuls trying to attain it's unique position. Best, Ken Newton

[meteorite-list] Wonderful GIBEON individuals for sale!

2007-04-10 Thread Peter Marmet
http://www.marmet-meteorites.com/id7.html Hi All, as you might remember, I had some very nice Gibeon individuals with natural patina for sale a few weeks ago. They sold very fast. The old Swiss collector who sold them to me agreed now to sell also the rest of his collection to me. (The 30

Re: [meteorite-list] This is the funniest meteorite dealer I've seen?

2007-04-10 Thread Dave Harris
And also, on one of his pages he has some pointless techy graph - go to http://www.rocksmuseumonline.com/index.php?pr=AR2 and look at the 1728.pdf image at the bottom! The 1728.pdf - if googled will not produce a paper with this diagram on, some other information re Mars. For god's sake - can

Re: [meteorite-list] This is the funniest meteorite dealer I'veseen?

2007-04-10 Thread Michael L Blood
How about this other meteorite finder? -- Dear sir I know the stone which have any properties : The first :Large Size : 22 kg The second : 2,7 kg ( like as the finger ) When i put it in the Iron tank (have water, only Iron ,not aluminium or copper) ).This stone wouldn't sink,it hang near botton.

Re: [meteorite-list] This is the funniest meteorite dealer I'veseen?

2007-04-10 Thread Mike Jensen
Hi Michael I received this one also. I think it is just a language barrier. Just change near to on. Try it. ;) As for being tired I would also be tired after holding a 22 kilo meteorite for all but a short time period. Mike -- Mike Jensen Jensen Meteorites 16730 E Ada PL Aurora, CO 80017-3137

[meteorite-list] This is the funniest meteorite dealer I've seen?

2007-04-10 Thread Robert Verish
Websites such as this one would be amusing if it were truly done as a lark or as a parody, but when those webmasters actively and repeatedly hassle researchers, then we have a problem that needs to be addressed. There are a number of us on this List that communicate with researchers and other

Re: [meteorite-list] This is the funniest meteorite dealer I'veseen?

2007-04-10 Thread MexicoDoug
Dave wrote: For god's sake - can someone please stop these idiots? These people are VERY dangerous to the Community and MUST be stopped. Ken? You in there yet? This is fraud! Hi Dave H., Bob V., List, After endulging by having a laugh at this unfortunate Chicago area soul's expense, please

Re: [meteorite-list] This is the funniest meteorite dealer I'veseen?

2007-04-10 Thread Moni Waiblinger
Hi Doug, you are a terrific soul. It was surley so nice to have met you and laughed with you. I certainly hope to have that pleasure again next year in Tucson! With best regards, Moni From: MexicoDoug [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: metlist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re:

[meteorite-list] Kalahari lunar meteorite stones - photos

2007-04-10 Thread Randy Korotev
Incidentally, here are some photos of small slices of the Kalahari 008 and 009 lunar meteorite stones that I recieved today. http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/stones/kalahari008.htm I'm unaware of any other photos. I don't know any more about this meteorite than the publicly available

Re: [meteorite-list] Kalahari lunar meteorite stones - photos

2007-04-10 Thread Adam Hupe
Wow, If I would have picked up these stones, I probably would have thrown them back. I cannot see a single indicator that these are planetary. No obvious crust No indications of shock No vesicles and what looks like quartz Thanks for the images although I have learned not to read too much from

[meteorite-list] Dawn Arrives In Florida - A Little After Dawn

2007-04-10 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/kennedy/news/releases/2007/release-20070410.html April 10, 2007 Tabatha Thompson/Dwayne Brown Headquarters, Washington 202-358-3895/1726 George Diller Kennedy Space Center, Fla. 321-867-2468 DC Agle Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. 818-393-9011

Re: [meteorite-list] Kalahari lunar meteorite stones - photos

2007-04-10 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
I agree with Adam, this material its many similar to a Quartz nodule pass for a lunar meteorite I have here in my meteorwrong collection...we are sure this 2 meteorites its real meteorites? Matteo - Original Message - Da : Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : Adam

Re: [meteorite-list] Kalahari lunar meteorite stones - photos

2007-04-10 Thread Adam Hupe
Maybe I should go through my meteorite-wrong pile again. I noticed they gave it a weathering grade of 1. I thought metal had to be present in order to qualify a weathering grade and that they are generally not assigned to achondrites. The CRE age seems to be no different than a rock that spent

[meteorite-list] This is the funniest meteorite dealer

2007-04-10 Thread valparint
It's some form of Kryptonite, the kind that always lands next to con artists. Paul Swartz Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 10:33:04 -0700 From: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] This is the funniest meteorite dealer I'veseen? To: Randy Korotev [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Re: [meteorite-list] Kalahari lunar meteorite stones - photos

2007-04-10 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, Adam, Matteo, List It's a True Moon: The regolith origin is also supported by the finding of solar wind implanted rare gases (L. Schultz, Mainz). No obvious crust It HAS a crust. A weird crust, but it's got one. Now, I'm a petrologico-idiot, so all I looked at was that weird

Re: [meteorite-list] Kalahari lunar meteorite stones - photos

2007-04-10 Thread Randy Korotev
Kalhari 008, at least, appears to contain solar-wind gases. The reported textures, mineralogy, mineral compositions (including Fe/Mn), and chemical compositions are consistent with lunar origin. Only concentrations of a few elements were listed in The Meteoritical Bulletin, however. Randy

Re: [meteorite-list] Kalahari lunar meteorite stones - photos

2007-04-10 Thread Michael Farmer
There is nothing there to see, these are tiny pieces of huge stones. Of course there is not much to see in them. Take a few milligrams of Dhofar 1180, Dag 400, etc, and you will see very little of the whole stone matrix. I want to know why photos of the large masses have never been released.

Re: [meteorite-list] Kalahari lunar meteorite stones - photos

2007-04-10 Thread Darren Garrison
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 15:31:20 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: matrix. I want to know why photos of the large masses have never been released. That's what I've always wondered-- all the secrecy around what has to be the most important (because it is by far the largest) lunar meteorite yet found. Could it

[meteorite-list] To the dreamers -- continued

2007-04-10 Thread Mal Bishop
Hi Everyone - If it is fine with all of you, I would like to, on occasion, post a little poem, or prose related to a passion or two of mine. :-) Can anyone guess what they may be? I thought I would continue with a second installment following from the one I just recently posted the other

Re: [meteorite-list] Kalahari lunar meteorite stones - photos

2007-04-10 Thread Adam Hupe
Somebody pointed out that these look similar to the Dhofar 303/pairings series. I remember when I first acquired a piece of Dhofar 908. It look so terrestrial that I had a labrotory reconfirm it so that I could sleep at night. I also question why there are no images of the main mass of the

[meteorite-list] MAPS How many on the list subscribe

2007-04-10 Thread tett
Hello List, Want to sink my teeth into more technical puiblications w.r.t. meteorites and wonderd how many here subscribe to MAPS. If uou do, what do you think of the publication. Cheers, Mike Tettenborn Owen Sound, Ontario, Canada __

[meteorite-list] OT: Elliot Ross Photography request for help please kindly delete if not interested

2007-04-10 Thread drtanuki
Dear List, My son, Elliot is about to enter some of his photography into an international photo contest. I and he would appreciate it if you would take five minutes or so and take a look and rank the top five photos on his webpage and reply to the comment form on his contact page.

Re: [meteorite-list] MAPS How many on the list subscribe

2007-04-10 Thread lebofsky
Hi Mike: It is an excellent journal, but definitely a real scientific publication. It is very different than Meteorite magazine (I read that too and recommend it to those of you who do not yet subscribe to it). Larry Lebofsky Co-Editor, Meteorite magazine [does this make my response an Ad?] On

[meteorite-list] ad: last minute call for bids.

2007-04-10 Thread Michael Farmer
Hey guys, these items are ending right now and there are still items like RUMURUTTI type meteorites at ONE CENT! Whats up? Time to get some bargains on ebay. I will not reload meteorites for a couple of weeks due to a large meteorite hunt planned for next week. 106 gram complete slice of the

[meteorite-list] FW: Re: Kalahari Lunar

2007-04-10 Thread debfred
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Randy and List, Last July Chauncey Walden and I drove all the way around the reported find location of these Kalahari Lunars. This part of the Central Kalahari Nature Reserve (national not private) is not a sandy desert like those far to the north or the

Re: [meteorite-list] FW: Re: Kalahari Lunar

2007-04-10 Thread Michael Farmer
I have heard that this area would be nearly impossible to find meteorites. It is clear that they are not from that area. Michael Farmer --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Randy and List, Last July Chauncey Walden and I drove all the way around the

[meteorite-list] al lang's gao's

2007-04-10 Thread steve arnold
Good evening list.I just got my 3 very beautiful gao meteorites from al lang.They are things of beauty.My 757 gram stone is of the natural color,brownish-light red in color.The nicest I have ever seen.It has alot of little thumbprints.My 482 and and 373 grams are the dark blackish gray are also

Re: [meteorite-list] FW: Re: Kalahari Lunar

2007-04-10 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, I recall, but cannot find in the archives (too long ago) of the List, a thread that batted back and forth rumors about Kalahari 008 and 009 having been found elsewhere and having been planted in the Kalahari. It was vague, certainly speculative, and nobody claimed to have come up with the

Re: [meteorite-list] This is the funniest meteorite dealer I've seen?

2007-04-10 Thread Trace
I really like the glass one with the air bubbles. Trace - Original Message - From: Joe To: meteorite list Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 12:57 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] This is the funniest meteorite dealer I've seen? Hello everyone, I was looking around the

Re: [meteorite-list] This is the funniest meteorite dealer I've seen?

2007-04-10 Thread Impactika
In a message dated 4/9/2007 10:37:40 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello everyone, I was looking around the internet and came across this link, I think you will get a kick out of it. these are supposed to be meteorites, they do not even resemble meteorites.

[meteorite-list] To the dreamers -- continued

2007-04-10 Thread Mal Bishop
Hi Everyone - If it is fine with all of you, I would like to, on occasion, post a little poem, or prose related to a passion or two of mine. :-) Can anyone guess what they may be? I thought I would continue with a second installment following from the one I just recently posted the other

[meteorite-list] Your meteorite site

2007-04-10 Thread Dave Harris
Hi, I have to inform you that all of your meteorites are definitely fake. You show a page from 1728.pdf. I have this paper - your fancy chart is NOT in it - hence you are misrepresenting the material you are selling. Far too many of the minerals you mention do NOT occur in meteorites (ie

[meteorite-list] Help in identifying Possible meteorite Creater

2007-04-10 Thread Atanacio Luna
Hi, I think I found a 20 ft wide creater. I don't want to disturb it to prevent loss of scinetific value. Here is a description: Site is on 12% down-slope to Southwest side of small hill. Inside diameter is about 10 feet, outside about 20 feet. I estimate over 100 yards3 of

[meteorite-list] good meteorwrong e-mail

2007-04-10 Thread Randy Korotev
I received this well-written e-mail yesterday from a woman whom I think I'd like to meet: Apropos of Meteorwrong #101 where you mention the quandary about the provenance of softball-sized terrestrial rocks that fall from the sky, I have a story that may shed light on at least one possible

Re: [meteorite-list] This is the funniest meteorite dealer I've seen

2007-04-10 Thread FBlockland
This guy has seen more falls than anyone on the planet. What a nut. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

[meteorite-list] Meteorite Video

2007-04-10 Thread Bob Evans
Heres a nice video set about meteorites. I already own a copy. Dirt cheap too ! http://cgi.ebay.com/Lot-6-Kid-Video-Meteorites-Space-Mars-Hubble-Satellites_W0QQitemZ180105966175QQihZ008QQcategoryZ309QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Bob__ Meteorite-list mailing

Re: [meteorite-list] This is the funniest meteorite dealer I'veseen

2007-04-10 Thread Joe
Here is the email this guy send me this morning. He still thinks they are authentic. I did feel sorry for him, now I just want his website off line, it is embarressment for Illniois meteorite collectors or hunters. Joe illinoismeteorites.com - Forwarded Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[meteorite-list] Fw: Re: Your meteorite site

2007-04-10 Thread Dave Harris
---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 04/10/07 19:48:30 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Your meteorite site I have to inform you that all of your meteorites are definitely fake. You show a page from 1728.pdf. I have this paper - your fancy chart is NOT in it -

Re: [meteorite-list] Your meteorite site

2007-04-10 Thread Dave Harris
Thank you for your offer of material. If you had any real involvement in true meteorites you would know that there are a variety of technical protocols they have to undergo for formal identification and cataloging - a process that takes a couple of years sometimes. We are quite happy in the

[meteorite-list] Meteorite trip - story part 1

2007-04-10 Thread ted brattstrom
I had a nice spring break - visited Meteor Crater, Holbrook, Painted Desert/Petrified Forest, and Gold Basin - found some meteorwrongs, took pictures of meteorite location signs (where do I e-mail those???) and here is part 1 of the story: Pallasite It was one of those interesting

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite trip - story part 1

2007-04-10 Thread Michael Farmer
I do not think that is a meteorite. It is most likely metallic slag, formed in a furnace. Lots of old smelting gold/silver/copper occured in Arizona for the last 130 years. The shape, the surface, the crystals, all look strange, like furnace slag. Michael Farmer --- ted brattstrom [EMAIL

[meteorite-list] This list needs serious help.

2007-04-10 Thread Michael Farmer
Do you all know what I have noticed over the last few year? That the majority of people on this list seem to care much less about real meteorites than they do about fakes! This thread is a perfect example which makes me sick. Many of us (Robert Haag is not on this like for this very reason) have

[meteorite-list] MORE ON KALAHARI 008 - 009

2007-04-10 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, On August 10, 2005, Jeff Grossman posted: When this meteorite came to my attention as a member of the NomCom, warning bells went off in my head too. Enough evidence was presented to us to convince us that these were meteorites, although I expected this not to be the case, that we had to name

Re: [meteorite-list] good meteorwrong e-mail

2007-04-10 Thread Darren Garrison
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 13:40:11 -0500, you wrote: The next day, there was a story in the local paper about a mysterious hail of rocks from the sky. No one was hurt, but several cars suffered some damage. Then Robert Skip Nelson showed up and declaired every last one of them to be meteorites

[meteorite-list] To whom it may concern........

2007-04-10 Thread Ruben Garcia
Hi all, It is with sadness and regret that I am writing today. I've been thinking about this for some time now, and today I have made my final decision. Let me explain. Due to certain personalities in this hobby I have grown more and more disenchanted with meteorites, meteorite collecting and

Re: [meteorite-list] To whom it may concern........

2007-04-10 Thread MexicoDoug
Hello friends, I hope I'm not alone in feeling down after reading this. While I don't know anything about the forces at work and haven't kept up with any of the US Southwest issues, I feel lousy now, because here I've been all along in the background enjoying every single hunting post Ruben makes