Re: [meteorite-list] Case study: Lake Eyre meteorite vs. U.S.

2016-01-20 Thread Greg Hupe via Meteorite-list
When will the Insanity end? Wake up, Give it a Break and Move on with Realty... As in the song... Deal with your Monsters... or they will deal with You.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHkozMIXZ8w Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection

[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2016-01-20 Thread Paul Swartz via Meteorite-list
No picture was submitted for today. http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=01/21/2016 __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list

Re: [meteorite-list] Star's Bizarre Optical Antics at Least a, Century Old

2016-01-20 Thread Greg B. via Meteorite-list
What would be nice is if they could collect enough light strength from the 1500 light/yr star to use a spectrometer to determine composition data. This way if you know a star should be showing spectra of He. H, and some Iron, yet shows a lot of aluminum and gold, and titanium, etc, then I

Re: [meteorite-list] Case study: Lake Eyre meteorite vs. U.S.

2016-01-20 Thread Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list
Except that there are no laws concerning meteorites and the infamous "BLM order" expired Sep. 30, 2013. Like Larry wrote previously, the permit and the process was a joke - a series of hoops to be jumped through and when I got to the last hoop they kept moving it further away. I don't think they

Re: [meteorite-list] Case study: Lake Eyre meteorite vs. U.S.

2016-01-20 Thread Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
A federal law is on the books about meteorites found on public land are not to used for commercial purposes. A BLM agent working the Pahrump, Nevada area showed us this law in a book he pulled from his truck in the field after Guido Diero asked to see the laws governing meteorites. This is

[meteorite-list] Revisiting flightpath of Indian Butte (Stanfield/Casa Grande) bolide of 7 June 1998

2016-01-20 Thread Matson, Rob D. via Meteorite-list
Hi All, I've been revisiting the June 7th, 1998, fall over Stanfield, AZ (Indian Butte), attempting to better constrain the original bolide flight direction. I know David Kring at the time collected hundreds of reports from witnesses, trying to piece together the trajectory and a likely fall

Re: [meteorite-list] Case study: Lake Eyre meteorite vs. U.S.

2016-01-20 Thread Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
It is best to contact the BLM office in either the Needles, CA or Barstow, CA and they will tell you directly the laws. I have contacted both offices in the past. It is consistent that meteorites found on public land cannot be used for commercial purposes without a permit. Since there is no

Re: [meteorite-list] Case study: Lake Eyre meteorite vs. U.S.

2016-01-20 Thread Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list
Not a law. Thank you. -Michael in so. Cal. On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list wrote: > Exact wording from BLM website: > > > > Those interested should contact the appropriate BLM office to learn details > for their area of

Re: [meteorite-list] Case study: Lake Eyre meteorite vs. U.S.

2016-01-20 Thread Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list
Adam, Please cite me (and the rest of the list) the law by order and section. "I saw it in a book" doesn't mean jack or shit to me. -Michael in so. Cal. On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list wrote: > A federal law is on the

Re: [meteorite-list] Case study: Lake Eyre meteorite vs. U.S.

2016-01-20 Thread Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
Exact wording from BLM website: Those interested should contact the appropriate BLM office to learn details for their area of interest. Can meteorites casually collected from public lands be bartered or sold? Casual collection of meteorites from public lands is only for an

Re: [meteorite-list] Case study: Lake Eyre meteorite vs. U.S.

2016-01-20 Thread Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
Federal rules and regulations are laws. - Original Message - From: "Michael Mulgrew" To: "Raremeteorites" Cc: "Meteorite List" Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 12:04 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [meteorite-list] Case study: Lake Eyre meteorite vs. U.S.

2016-01-20 Thread Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
One just has to research Sue the T- Rex or the Old Woman meteorite to see that the regulations are enforceable under law. The poor Sue the T-Rex finder was rewarded with a prison sentence under these regulations (laws). - Original Message - From: "Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list"

[meteorite-list] Tucson Gem Show

2016-01-20 Thread kdmeteorites--- via Meteorite-list
Hello, Everybody!! We wanted to let you all know that we will be in two new locations this year. We will be at the Riverpark Inn, room 125 (the Pueblo Gem Show) starting Monday, January 25 through Feb 10th. We will also be at the Mineral and Fossil Marketplace, inside the building. Look for

Re: [meteorite-list] Case study: Lake Eyre meteorite vs. U.S.

2016-01-20 Thread Greg Hupe via Meteorite-list
Waste of breath, don't use it in an endless 'debate'... Keyboard Warrior Alert ...---... -Original Message- From: Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 2:45 PM To: Raremeteorites Cc: Meteorite List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Case study: Lake Eyre

[meteorite-list] Greg Hupe & Nature's Vault, Inc. - Meteoritic Future Guaranteed!

2016-01-20 Thread Greg Hupe via Meteorite-list
Into a New Year and at the door to the 2016 Tucson Show, I thought I would re-post my statement from July 2014... [Original post from July 8, 2014] Dear Meteorite Community, In recent months my brother, Adam, has publicly commented several times that he has taken steps to take a break from

Re: [meteorite-list] Case study: Lake Eyre meteorite vs. U.S.

2016-01-20 Thread Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list
Then cite me title and section of the CFR that deals with meteorites. Michael in so. Cal. On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list wrote: > Federal rules and regulations are laws. > > > - Original Message - From: "Michael

Re: [meteorite-list] Case study: Lake Eyre meteorite vs. U.S.

2016-01-20 Thread Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
Don't shoot the messenger. I am opposed to this overregulation myself. I am not a lawyer so you will have to obtain specific information directly from the source. In this case, the U.S. Department of the Interior. I am just trying to prevent field collectors from running into trouble

[meteorite-list] Additional Info

2016-01-20 Thread kdmeteorites--- via Meteorite-list
Hi again; I forgot to list the address of the Mineral and Fossil Marketplace. It is located at 1333 N. Oracle Road. Cheers, Dana Meteorite Lady Rocks! __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at

Re: [meteorite-list] Greg Hupe & Nature's Vault, Inc. - Meteoritic Future Guaranteed!

2016-01-20 Thread Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
Yes, please do not mistake us. I have been involved in meteorites many years longer and have volunteered my services in support of this fine avocation including two board terms in the IMCA, guiding fieldtrips for many hunter who made there very first finds and numerous talks/presentations on

[meteorite-list] The Meteorite and the Hidden Hoax (BBC Radio 4)

2016-01-20 Thread karmaka via Meteorite-list
A well-known story told again: The Meteorite and the Hidden Hoax Science Series BBC Radio 4 20 January 2016   audio: http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/redir/version/2.0/mediaset/audio-nondrm-download/proto/http/vpid/p03fcypq.mp3 http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06wg805   Enjoy! ;-)

Re: [meteorite-list] Caltech Researchers Find Evidence of a Real Ninth Planet

2016-01-20 Thread Count Deiro via Meteorite-list
The Mormons are going to go nuts! This solves their missing giant planet where so many apostates are supposed to get parked in their theology story. Their planet is called "Golub". Count Deiro IMCA 3536 MetSoc -Original Message- >From: Ron Baalke via Meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Case study: Lake Eyre meteorite vs. U.S.

2016-01-20 Thread Carl Esparza via Meteorite-list
List, I'm sure I'm not alone when I say I have been rock collecting for many years. I grew up in Arizona. I have thousands of rocks (literally). And yes, they are just rocks until they are identified or classified otherwise. In the past few years Blaine Reed has made verification /

[meteorite-list] Caltech Researchers Find Evidence of a Real Ninth Planet

2016-01-20 Thread Ron Baalke via Meteorite-list
http://www.caltech.edu/news/caltech-researchers-find-evidence-real-ninth-planet-49523 Caltech Researchers Find Evidence of a Real Ninth Planet Caltech January 20, 2016 Caltech researchers have found evidence of a giant planet tracing a bizarre, highly elongated orbit in the outer solar system.

Re: [meteorite-list] Caltech Researchers Find Evidence of a Real Ninth Planet

2016-01-20 Thread Larry Lebofsky via Meteorite-list
Everyone: At the time that Pluto was being "reclassified," Hal Levinson from SWRI produced a figure that shows the mass that is need to "clear one's orbit" at any given distance from the Sun. This can be due to either accretion or scattering of objects. At Pluto's distance of 40 AU, an