I recall doing some preliminary work on a bolide tracked by DOD which
should have terminated in the vicinity of Coldwater(?) Alabama (East of
Montgomery) about that time. To my knowledge no one ever reported
searching even though discussed widly on the list. The track data was
pretty good
I recall doing some preliminary work with another list member on a
bolide tracked by DOD which should have terminated in the vicinity of
Coldwater(?) Alabama (East of Montgomery) about that time. To my
knowledge no one ever reported searching even though discussed widely on
the list. The
Howard Wu wrote:
As I recall from the discovery channel the moon had orbited alot
closer to the earth and has been drifting further away overtime.
That is true Howard, in fact as you mathematically work backwards from
where the moon is today-- you'll see that the moon gets closer and
closer
Hello Tom and list
That was the happenstance location* in the northwestward quadrant of
what was to become identified as the strewn field where meteorites from
this find were first identified by science. (1891? all though,
meteorites from this field were known and traded much earlier). The
Congrats! Good work. Now you know at least that that name is setting
you up.
I do similar things with addresses that move freely amongst the many
free and throw away accounts
Over the years has anyone else ever wondered if and why so many of the
So n So's Our Hero, Stop Bashing Him !,
Hello Jerry,
You probably are thinking of Meteorites and Their Parent Bodies 2nd
Edition by Harry (Hap ) McSween, Jr -- whist not assisting on the
Martian projects is from my alma mater, the Univ. of Tennessee @Knoxville.
(IMHO) until the Nortons came along with Rocks in Space and
Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! wrote:
I just cannot seem to put 2 and 2 together
Possibly the greatest understatement ever seen in the annals (anal,
too!) of meteorite communication
Would someone translate this pedantic prose of mine to the person asking
this question?
If he
Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! wrote:
...I have a question regarding OWNING apollo material.Why can we not
own any of this material?
The reason is is is against federal law for private ownership of Apollo
samples. There seems to be some loopholes for dust which for a time
was confiscated by NASA
Maybe it is just me but...
Darren Garrison wrote:
balgh blagh blagh yada yada
would never buy photos from someone who wasn't established to my
satisfaction . And THAT is why I didn't even concider for a SECOND
paying for a unseen, non-profesional video by someone who's abilities
I had NO
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,61-1643510,00.html
On This Day - June 7, 1923
What a labourer thought was gunfire was a rare meteorite.
THE Natural History Museum at South Kensington has received a very rare
and interesting gift in the shape of a meteorite, which fell just before
1pm
Ok folks... a little knowledge is a dangerous thing- and I prefer a safe
list.
Thin sections: Why?
Thin sections are made for petrological studies-- and of course for we
Obsessive Compulsive Collectors just because they exist and no fancy
meteorite specimen is complete with out metal label
Steve you were doing fine since your return, even if it was to brag
about your new meteorites, and then you open your mouth and ME Whine
me whine me whine ME ME ME comes out. You've had to go step on another
posting land mine-- have a compulsion for scourging do you?. Your
history of I am
A BFO just hit me --no, not a bolide but a Blinding Flash of the Obvious
( Oblivious to some)-- tDe Nile River runs through Chicago as well as
North East Africa.
I know Steve isn't reading this directly( yeah? Right!), cause I am in
time out by Steve --and I never made the bashem list.
A Hardy Good Morning to you and yours, Mr. Steve and may you have a
great one also!
To our friends from GB-- Reay Sorry 'bout that unique method of
tea brewing in Boston, ya know. Again, to our best friends in the UK
and all around the world Independence twas the one of the truly
Hello Guys and Gals,
The Mohahans fall was reported by the young finders to be barely hot
potato holdable owing to the warmth. As to the Portales Valley and the
tarp, I believe there was a bit of debate as to whether or not the tarp
was melted or embedded. As an alumni of Ft Hood, Texas I
Anyone have an idea who the Bruce W. is that told this
i'll-litter-it all over Ebay Seller that he no doubt has the real
McCoy ( totally insider pun)
How ironic that Peenutgrl was the opening bidder.
Elton
harlan trammell wrote:
Speaking of Dutch Meteorites..what became of the object that punched
through a warehouse roof there a few years back. I faintly recall it
being a possible hoax.
Elton
PS:Post all the wanted or ads one like so long as ONE is considerate.
Jan Bartels wrote:
Hello listoids,
Since there's at
Hello Cyber Sleuth's and Peace Loving Meteorite Enthusiasts!
I am not in anyway trying to participate in the latest round of I,
Steve. (But by writing this I guess I am and I have previously
apologized for THIS post in my previous posts) This is about the
supporters of His Works perhaps
AL Mitterling wrote:
Hi Robert, Jerry and list,
Might I suggest?? dividing the list into areas of interests. We could
have topics like: Meteorite Information, Meteorite Questions, Meteorite
discussion, Meteorite AD's, New Members Area, etc. and so forth. (other
ideas would be up to list
I've been around this so long ,it never occured to to think this was the
result of ground impact, but I understand how it would look that way.
When one thinks about it, All or the SAwe find was shrapnel-form at the
beginning of breakup. Fragments which separated earlier had longer
opportunity
Greetings,
Wasn't Pluto given dual status a few years back when it was facing
demotion. I thought in addition to the 9th planet it was assigned KBO
1000...right? wrong? partially right?
Elton
Sterling K. Webb wrote:
Hi,
The IAU has made an official announcement
on the question of
Perhaps a bit off topic except that it deals with the list itself. I've
remained silent hoping the practice would go away but it hasn't.
Sunshine is a good disinfectant. Call me paranoid, nosy, or
confrontational-- but do not call me out because I choose to speak up
about games/ploys someone
Dirk can add to this as he wishes, however Mt Fuji is around
12,400ft±--(I walked up part of it and am still out of breath 2 years
later) Any trail falling below the near crest would indicate
incandescence below 12,000. (2miles±) and would be sufficient for
estimating 10k ft.
Somewhere, I
Chris Peterson wrote:
In order for a much smaller object to persist to low height would
require a very unusual combination of conditions.
This was 20 years ago, this particular meteorite; Maryville,TN 1983, I
observed coming in around 4 am in the morning so it had a high relative
speed; a
For Pete's sake it is a friggin visit cookie that Lycos or Geocities
or Yahoo all attempt to place when going to any of their sites. Doug
said he knew it wasn't a meteortite but asked what it was. Sorry Charly
that we disturbed your winter hybernation.
Elton
Charles Viau wrote:
That site
Hello Lars,
The cooling speed must remain within the limits of a few degrees per
million years for the nickel atoms to migrate and align. I think the
temperature bands where Widmanstätten pattern (i.e. taenite/kamacite
lattices) can occur is between 1400° and 800°C. (pressure relative).
Hello David,
For all my experience in researching old mines and old furnaces, it is
trough plug from a foundry operation.
Some foundries, especially older ones that didn't have overhead cranes
and large crucibles have channels in the floor from the furnace to a
bank(tree) of molds. The
Orrisa fell at the begining of a record monsoon if you recall Mike
Farmer's post from the scene.
I don't know why Orrisa is full of metal--go figure that a meteorite
with metal..I ask for my money back!
Elton
M come Meteorite Meteorites wrote:
Hello
Why Orissa, a fresh fall, have sign of
Great Idea Mark! The tank lid of an american standard toilet will also
work in a pinch--or so I've been told...(grin) The back of a floor tile
can be used also. Watch about using shards as they also can cut.
A good diagnostic streak is at least the size of a jumbo pencil lead.
Minerals
Hello
Jose Campos wrote:
I would like to know more about that island in the Azores (?) being
watched for a possible massive landslide. If my memory is right, I
think that I read (quite sometime ago, some 2 yrs ago or so), about
something similar - but refering to one of the Canary islands -
Good Question and a long standing sleeper discussion on the list.
Most of all of the NWA's I have actually held in my hand don't show what
is true desert varnish. Many however show wind polishing and that
abrades the original fusion crust away to a degree. The cheaper
NWA's are so
Hello David,
For all my experience in researching old mines and old furnaces, it is
trough plug from a foundry operation.
Some foundries, especially older ones that didn't have overhead cranes
and large crucibles have channels in the floor from the furnace to a
bank(tree) of molds. The
Hello Mike,
Research on Electrophonic sounds related to fireballs is a work in
progress and the book is still on page one. There are many widely
placed reports and in Mongolia within the past 5-6 years a scientific
expedition was recording audio and captuerd the sound.
Current (no pun
I assume you want your replies to be indents under the original
questio, thus remaining chronologically located in the threadand much
more easy to follow.
Depending on your software there is a thread code, or message ID chain,
embedded somewhere in the header so that when you reply, other
Mohamed Congratulations -- you've finally got hold of a bona fide,
real, genuine, skyrock -- and a fresh one at that!
Regards,
Elton
M Yousef wrote:
Dear All;
Somebody showed me a nice 2Kg rock with clear crust, and he claims
that he got it from someone in Yemen who wittnessed the fall in
I guess it is yours to do with as you wish--- but it is a terrible
shame to sell it off in pieces when it's most wonderful feature is the
way it goes back together! For classification I could perhaps see
sending a corner piece-- but to sell off a miracle meteorite in pieces
seems cruel and
The short answer is-- like everywhere else, they have been accumulating
over time but they've been in deep freeze for eons and there have been
no meteorite list members there to pick them up--well actually there
have been some meteorite list members there picking them up but that is
another
Just some more meteorite trivia... Some irons (e.g Social Circle, GA
USA) have very distorted patterns suggesting remelting. The current
theory is that this meteorite passed very close to the sun and in doing
so came close to reblending the whole Widmanstatten pattern/ taenite
crystal
RUMOR CONTROL: Nicolas Cage is reported to have a 680+ gram piece so I
doubt this is the largest piece in private hands.
Elton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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I always thought it was methane coming in y'ur anus geeze now it is
carbon monioxide too! I guess flatus sniffing is dnagerous eah?
What?..one momentYes Rozanna Rozanna Dana? er Emily
Lutella. oh!
Nevermind.
Ron Baalke wrote:
Observatoire de Paris
Paris,
Hello List,
Let me throw this out to help clarify the concepts. I have a
statistical major but after my accident some procedures are fuzzy to me
and today most is done by computers anyway, so bear with me. I'll try
too post a field technique for estimating an ellipse another time.
The strewn
Yes you should be proud Mark
But a fiver will get you a tener that 99/100^th of NASAs technology is
involved at one stage or another ( stage? get it?)
It is a Great Christmas Gift to us all.
God Speed Beagle2!
Elton
mark ford wrote:
I think us Brits should be proud of Beagle2 ! - Even if it
Reality is like rain...it has to soak in.
Let him try to broker it for a while and when the buyers walk away the
price will come down... The possibility is that Jerry was misquoted.
As of yet we don't know if he has actually talked to anyone who knows
true values/ prices. I am sure if
Wasn't Lost City a Prairie Fire Ball Network find with calculated
orbital data?
Elton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ron, ¡¡ Boo !! as in as in Bootes (formerly somewhat known as Quadrans
Muralis), not to pronounce like the oo of booties. The latest news
on the Quadrantids' meteor shower
Not trying to beat anyone with a scoop but since this hasn't hit the
list I am posting the info from Ed Majden's post to Meteorobs
Elton
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:14:48 -0800
From: Ed Majden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: (meteorobs) Jan 4 fireball meteorite recovery
I just received this email from
NASA doesn't want you to know that it may have gotten a
viruse-mail or otherwise.(just kidding) MyDoom doesn't take
long to fill up any in box anywhere!
Actually, the memory, CPU and bus speeds are low, for amongst other
things I suspect, because they opted for EMP hardened military
Hello Tom, List, Scone Lovers
Usually the material for sale is cone sections, rarely symmetrical, with
or without other partial cones. There is usually one or more on eBlagh
Humbug.
Here is a great one and, if you can get a matched pair, you can have
all the impact fantasies you can handle.
Hello List.
This is from a discussion on another list I am on, however, because it
deals with meteorite composition, I thought I'd pass it along. It is
the foundation for understanding why we use isotope ratios to determine
where in our solar system a given meteorite may have originated.
In
I am going to reverse myself a bit in regard to the use of the list to
announce these questionable auctions. I think if a list member is
contemplating acutally bidding on a particular auction, and they have
questions about authenticity, it is a good strategy to ask the list's
collective
There is always the Donner Protocol
mark ford wrote:
Mankind would have to live off food reserves until food could be grown
there are more short term food reserves in towns and cities, my point
was that - sure millions would die
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Ok, I know this was covered recently but my archives are gone.
I've been here years but, pretend I haven't and review for me the
technical nuiances.
Why is cutting with transformer oil not desirable for cutting/ windowing
meteorites?
Why do some recommend a carbide blade vs a diamond
As to oxide coloration, I have been recently reading over the research
on the Triassic sandstone red beds which were laid down around the
time of the last Euro-Aftican-North American rift. Consequently the
same formation has exposures in southwest Europe, Morocco, and The north
eastern US.
Eye/Ear witness observation:
Maryville, TN, USA 1983, Bolide 1-2 kg single well rounded stone(H5?)
recovered
Yes to the report of the bolide,
Yes to the sonic boom.
Possible as to echo from distant ridges12-18 miles away.
Angle of decent was apparently vertical from the observer's perspective
Hello Steve, List.
You raise a couple questions about geologic structures so here is the
scoop and why. These photos are not an example of slickenside. Zag,
however, has the definitive example of slickenside found within a
meteorite. a slickenside appears polished--hence the term slick.
I understand that the popular ahem-bay nickel test kit returns a false
positive in the presence of iron. Could someone else validate this?
Elton
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Classic virus infection-- reads a part of a legitimate email in one's
sent mail box, truncate and attaches itself to emails going out to the
infected person's address book.
Elton
THis isn't your viris alert just there was a lot of emails going out
about this post.
Dennis Wells wrote:
Like flu stands for influenza, silicosis gives rise to the longest
named disease in the English Language:
Pneumono-ultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis: Noninfectious form of
silicosis, aka miner's lung disease.
You heard it here.
I knew some day I would be able to use this bit of
I am also interested in the use of quartz as index markers. This
isn't in any of my reference books. Are they attached to the specimen
and ground at the same time as the thin section?
Another question I have. Is there a house that specializes in
preparation? Kinda of like the $2 a carat
A New Zealand newspaper reports:
There was just a huge explosion and we looked around and there was
just dust everywhere, says Brenda Archer. What they didn't expect to
find was a very hot rock.--note a very hot rock.
Would anyone who is in touch with the Archer's pursue this asspect in
more
I hope Joel told them to not throw away any of the items which were
struck, gouged, or otherwise penetrated.
Hummm...What is the exchange rate for NZ currency now adays? What is
the fair value rate in New Orleans terms...? (ok just a little satire
folks)
Actually the report was very well
Yes as to the glass and amorphous nature of moldavites. The New Agers
aren't concerned with technical accuracy.
I have some ozocerite (aka Olefinite(?)) that the late Darryl Futrell
gave me. I believe some early naturalist thought tektites reported that
they were hardened wax or
As I understand it, under both US and EU statutes, it is the crime of
theft of computer services to access a digital network, system,
instant messaging service, newsgroup, etc. when one is not authorized to
do so. Repeatedly changing names and rejoining under false identity
when one has been
Cross Posted from the Meteorobs LIst
Gist: Several shacks caught fire owing to a meteor storm/meteor strike.
From the Meteorobs list.
Date: 16 Jul 2004 09:27:50 -
From: Bharat Adur [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: (meteorobs) Burning houses in Egypt?
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I vote for slag as well..
Speaking of... did anyone else get an unsolicited series of photos
from [EMAIL PROTECTED] aka göran lindfors advertising the new Swedish
Lunar with blue and green glass(!) plus assortment of other
meteorites--one so soft a knife could cut it? They apparently came
FYI
From another list:
I just saw a news item on the weather channel
Anyway, apparently a meteorite was recovered in Turlock, CA. About the
size of a potato, it landed right next to a sidewalk
in front of a family's home. There seemed to be a thin
flat protrusion from it with very exact 90 degree
Dear Cj it is the first of September and time for the quarterly
quarrels, rants, resignations, and rejoining ritual. or Q2R3R(Cue
Squared aRe cubed aRe) event in NASA parlance. Don't worry about it,
what goes around comes around, literally. It is especially bad this
time owing to the need
stan . wrote:
is there really any need for this?
Yes, actually, this amounts to surrogate strewn field data to be studied
at a future time when it is more technically practical.
let's be realistic here for a moment. sure an nwa number is assigned
to specific fragments you reported - but if the
Rob Wesel wrote:
I see many on eBay as Franconia area meteorite the new NWA
(Northwest Arizona). Bottom line, Adam is right but the model is
impossible.
Has anyone certified Franconia to be an area of meteorite
coincentration and to fall under the new provisions? And who's political
http://www.cadillacnews.com/articles/2004/09/13/news/news01.txt
Former Cadillac man's life centers around meteorites, precious stones
and adventure
By DALE KILLINGBECK, CADILLAC NEWS
Former Cadillac resident David Freeman knows a hot rock when he sees one.
I've found two diamonds in Wyoming and
An old but favorite topic for the list:
*Authentic Moondust from Apollo 11*
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=416item=3929802989rd=1ssPageName=WDVW
or item search 3929802989
Interesting collection of metalic sphere, orange and biege glass, and
breccia on a 3mm triangle
Now I have a new use for my old recordplayer! Thanks Tim for the
inspiration.
Elton
Tim Heitz wrote:
Dear Collector's
I have listed 8 meteorites on e-bay, each one has two movie clips, one for dial up
and one for broadband
Below is an example, have a look
(MOVIE-CLIP)- for broadband
http://www.starcourier.com/articles/2004/09/29/city/city3.txt
OOooo... this one has worm holes and flakes of gold.
*Meteorite just misses Kewanee man*
/By Star Courier staff/
KEWANEE -- Pat Lee was working outside the Tool Time Rental building
on South Main Street Saturday when he
Sounds intirguing-- how about a nice set of photos so we can behold too?
Feel Free to Email to me if you don't care to post them but I think
we'd all like to see.
Regards
Elton
Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! wrote:
Hello list.It is very interesting to see what makes up a meteorite
inside.From
First of all Steve--Happy Anniversary
Ok is there a pun here? FALL meteorite sale Is this a sale
of falls vs finds-- or is this a Fall Sale as in Autumn, Leaf Turning,
Cider-sippi'n, Sale. Enquiring minds want to know.
Regards,
Elton
Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! wrote:
Hi again list.I
Any de-orbit/decay expected tonight Sep 30, 2004 over Eastern North America?
Perhaps there is a swarm in orbit-- both fireballs were very similar in
look and trajectory.
Interesting greenish color, low incandescant fireballs tonight at 8:21
and 8:27 Observed along Rt 209 in Carbon County
If I weren't numb , Dave, I'd be flabbergasted at the beef you have with
the list. Your post shows that you knew the conflict level. I don't
see that you were turned on at the drop of a hat. I think you've been
tolerated but welcomed a very long time. You tweaked your nose at us
when we
Interesting claim of another K-T boundary impact. Nice photos and
discussion of the Deccan Traps
http://www.astrobio.net/news/modules.php?op=modloadname=Newsfile=articlesid=1281mode=threadorder=0thold=0
I doubt there is any that is legally available for collectors now that
the Feds have stepped in. I am pretty sure all the Willamette meteorite
is claimed and ratified by a US Federal Court as a native religious
artifact by the consolidated tribes in Oregon and thus subject to return
to them.
Having lived and traveled Europe-- visiting old battlefields, be it
remembered that this region was afflicted with 2-3 significant wars and
altered artifacts are all over the place. Shrapnel tends to alter to
Campo like lumps. Tilling in fields and stream tumbling can make them
very
Owner's manual...??? what R a owner's manual?
E.J.
David Freeman wrote:
Dear List;
It has been kindly pointed out by one of our nicest list members that
my camera also comes with an owners manual which helps us take better
pictures, and to set the light adjustment to compensate for different
Ok!!! This is serious folks Pay attention the fate of the world is at
stake. I read it in Pravda so it must be true.- Our Souls are all go
ruin for sure!
What we have all suspected has been confirmed in the press and by the
Jakartanese Air Forces: Someone is sending meteorites toward earth.
Hello Dave,
I understand you've finished dealing with him but here is what I have
used in similar circumstances.
Ebay dosen't want to hear from you as a buyer so they don't have an
email address for auction disputes. It has to be done through a
deliberate bottle neck via their website. One
To save the list from the inane registration process at MySanantonio.com
site here is the article:
*
Will 'Rosetta Stone' prove Uvalde crater? *
* Web Posted: 01/16/2005 12:00 AM CST *
* Zeke MacCormack
San Antonio Express-News *
UVALDE The origin of a 2-mile-wide depression outside this town
Hello Darren,
The low number of chondrules indicates a 5 or 6 IMHO. I wouldn't rule
out H as H is not just free metal but overall metal content amongst
other things. Outwardly the color of the matrix looks more like olivine.
The black veins are probably a dark purple if you look closely. It is
Carpenter unearths meteorite on the job
*Rock is one of the largest found in Minnesota*
*BY BOB SHAW*
*Pioneer Press*
When Al Stegora first saw his piece of the sky, he wasn't sure what it was.
He was digging a sewer line at a home in Champlin in the 1970s and was
just finishing up the work with
I imagine he has high prices because he can find someone willing to pay
them.
Just a thought.
Is this the newbie from OR that we are talking about?
Elton
Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! wrote:
Hi again list.I just picked up my 16 gram fragment of WILLOWDALE,KANSAS
TODAY.A very nice piece.It was part of
Do you also exclude that these threats couldn't be but a red herring
made from and to the same person? It has been done before. Very
effectively! A deflection technique seen daily in the domestic courts
and on certain discussion list and news groups...Hum.
Elton
Darren Garrison wrote:
Actually folks..there IS a glass impactite found at Meteor Crater. I
have read the research long ago but not sure Iremember what it looks
like. I even think HHN wrote about it.
Elton
Jan Bartels wrote:
Hi List,
A few weeks ago when we got married at the Meteor Crater one of the
crewmembers
Whos is running the pool onwell you know what...te he he wink wink
Elton
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Gosh Tom, I don't know what to say other than...
I hope you don't let the door hit you in the a-- on the way out...
Oh BTW--Is this temporary or will it be like your pasts resignations to
the hobby? Didn't someone sponsor you when you couldn't pay your dues
for IMCA? Talk about disloyal.
Michael Farmer wrote:
Simple, you refuse to admit that the POPE does not belong on this list
unless a meteorite falls on him.
Actually
*Pope-hit-by-meteorite sculpture auctioned for £620,000*
http://ananova.com/news/story/sm_297692.html
I' d prefer not to be impolite either, but well heck today I am in a
Steve mode and I don't give a rats tail about any agreement I've ever
made no anyone else. I am getting a DAILY sometimes twice a day--
auction status/ update/ spring sale yada yada reminders from Steve in
Chicago
Hello Larry, List.
I am coming late to the table but I was looking through those wonderful
photos today. I noticed recent/new vegetation growing from under a
couple of the stones. If these were still in situ, doesn't this suggest
a recent fall? Or a fall within the lifetime of the underlying
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