Re: [meteorite-list] Who will be at Costa Mesa?

2006-11-02 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, I'll try to stop by either Saturday or Sunday -if anyone's planning on going either of those days, I'll be bringing along a few finds, etc. Regards, Jason On 10/30/06, Matson, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi John/Nick/Whomever else,I'll be there on Friday morning on my way to work;

Re: [meteorite-list] Rhode Island meteorite?

2006-11-16 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, For those interested, the log from the 18th does have some high quality photos of the 'meteorite.' And I'd have to say that it certainly looks promising, at the very least. The interior looks relatively unweathered compared with the semi-present crust (you can see ?chondrules? through

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons

2006-12-06 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, Might be a little on the tail end of this thread, but I think it still merits posting... Although there may be exceptions where an iron lacks fusion crust do to a late atmospheric breakup or weathering, as might any stony meteorite, they do, in general, possess just such a skin after

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons

2006-12-08 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Mike, All, Ground conditions can vary so greatly that I'd have to say that I have no real idea. Given the little research I've put in, I'd say that the ground in the vicinity of the Campo fall might have better drainage, receive less annual rainfall (cumulatively anyways), or simply be less

Re: [meteorite-list] biggest taggish lake

2006-12-15 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Harlan, All, The largest piece of Tagish available to private collectors (to my knowledge) was the ~10+g chunk sold by Eric Twelker a number of months, if not a few years ago. There are undoubtedly a few more of that size, if not bigger, floating around, but good luck figuring out who has

Re: [meteorite-list] Wired Science Replay

2007-01-03 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, For those not overly-adept at navigating throughout the web (or for you who are as lazy right now as I usually feel), here's the link. http://www.pbs.org/kcet/wiredscience/player-wired-pilot.html Regards, Jason On 1/3/07, Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for that

Re: [meteorite-list] Close-up New Jersey Object

2007-01-05 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, Here's a link to a pretty good video. Short, but fairly close up, and the thing doesn't look too unlike a meteorite... http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/scp_v3/viewer/index.php?pid=16598rn=49750cl=1602098ch=61492src=news Regards, Jason __

Re: [meteorite-list] Iron Falls NJO

2007-01-06 Thread Jason Utas
Hello McCartney, All, I doubt its meteoric origin as well. I've personally seen a number of other fresh iron falls and all that had been recovered recently after falling had been beautifully fusion crusted, if not on all surfaces, then all save one or two. This other side or two have always

Re: [meteorite-list] Irons DON'T form Fusion Crust's... was Iron Falls NJ

2007-01-08 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Eman, All, Firstly, if one determines fusion crust to be made of siliceous material, that, as far as I'm concerned, is up to them - irons most certainly form a thin skin of magnetite (not loosely adhering, sorry, but about as hard to peel off as that of a stone, if not more so) that most

[meteorite-list] Fwd: Taza Main Mass Pics

2007-01-14 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, Sorry for the duplicate (if this is one), but I just saw Stefan's reply - here's the message I sent a while ago. Regards, Jason -- Forwarded message -- From: Jason Utas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Jan 13, 2007 10:57 PM Subject: Re: Taza Main Mass Pics To: Meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Taza Main Mass Pics

2007-01-14 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Piper, All, It weighs ~73kg or thereabouts. I'd say between two and three feet long. Can't say for sure right now - busy packing for New York, leave sometime around 6am tomorrow, and back next weekend. Speaking of which - if anyone wishes to contact me, I'll be out for the rest of the

Re: [meteorite-list] hit a tree

2007-01-22 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, Home again... Off the top of my head - Sikhote-Alin, and that pretty old Cabin Creek...not to mention all of those big crater forming ones...and Tunguska ;) Terry Boswell also had a new iron fall from the last year or so that supposedly hit a tree, but it had definitely hit something

Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay Buyer Bewares

2007-01-29 Thread Jason Utas
-limited_W0QQitemZ230080307115QQihZ013QQcategoryZ3239QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Identical? Well, yes. Anyone else have some input - or better pictures? Regards, Jason On 1/28/07, Jason Utas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, Just a heads up - if you couldn't tell from the description, this one's a scam. _http://cgi.ebay.com/Meteorite-3-229-Grams

Re: [meteorite-list] Anyone visit the NJO today?

2007-01-29 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Sterling, All, I've seen many fresh irons, and this does not look like one in the least, save the fact that it's not rusty. It appears to be rough and gouged in many places. Assuming that it's a meteorite, we're either dealing with a late explosive breakup or shrapnel from a crater. There

[meteorite-list] Ebay Buyer Bewares

2007-01-29 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, Just a heads up - if you couldn't tell from the description, this one's a scam. _ http://cgi.ebay.com/Meteorite-3-229-Grams-Solid-Iron-Meteorite-WOW_W0QQitemZ230084232264QQihZ013QQcategoryZ3239QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem _

Re: [meteorite-list] The New Jersey Object

2007-02-01 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Darren, All, By right-clicking the photos, clicking properties, and going directly to the picture URL, I was able to get these: http://www.njfossils.net/meteorite/DVC01306.JPG http://www.njfossils.net/meteorite/DVC01291.JPG http://www.njfossils.net/meteorite/DVC01288.JPG

[meteorite-list] Fwd: The New Jersey Object

2007-02-01 Thread Jason Utas
Guess this didn't go through last time...in any case, better late than never. -- Forwarded message -- From: Jason Utas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Jan 31, 2007 10:43 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The New Jersey Object To: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Hello

[meteorite-list] Tucson/Los Angeles Shipping

2007-02-02 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, We just made last minute (night before) arrangements for the show, and should be driving into town Saturday morning after a Friday night drive from LA. If anyone would like a ride to Tucson from the LA area, we'd be happy to take you (though you'd be on your own once you got there).

Re: [meteorite-list] Patterns in Meteorwrong

2007-02-05 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, Regarding Widmanstatten patterns in meteorites and terrestrial iron... The typical problem that most run into is with cosmically (or possibly terrestrially) reheated/recrystallized irons that oftentimes share an uncanny resemblance in structure to terrestrially manufactured metal. In

Re: [meteorite-list] Dwarf Planet 'Becoming A Comet' (2003 EL61)

2007-02-21 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Rob, All, Comets are generally considered to be a thin layer of rocky material over a lot of volatites, the complete opposite. I could well be wrong on this. Virgin comets are unusually bright on their first perihelion passage. One theory is that the surface volatiles ar vapourised away

Re: [meteorite-list] Larry's Holbrook Holy Grail Find and BobHaag's Venus Stone

2007-02-25 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, There are a few things that separate Adamana from Holbrook in my mind... The texture of the crust alone of Adamana versus that of Holbrook leaves me little doubt that the two could possibly be paired. The fusion crust of Adamana is a matte black, which contrasts sharply with the crust

Re: [meteorite-list] Larry's Holbrook Holy Grail Find and BobHaag's Venus Stone

2007-02-28 Thread Jason Utas
on the accuracy of the reportswho could possibly know. Regards, Jason On 2/27/07, DNAndrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jason Utas wrote: Hello All, There are a few things that separate Adamana from Holbrook in my mind... The texture of the crust alone of Adamana versus that of Holbrook leaves

Re: [meteorite-list] Last on Adamana for a while (I hope)

2007-03-06 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, Firstly, all of your statements rely either on the fact that this was an atmospheric breakup in which larger (or oriented/atmospherically more streamlined) stones falling at one end and the smaller stones falling at the other. This is clearly not the case. As you stated, the Holbrook

Re: [meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite Hits Illinois Home

2007-03-06 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, This looks even less like a fresh iron than the NJ object... http://www.pantagraph.com/shared-content/gallery/?galleryid=4gallery_page=0album_page=0albumid=71mediaid=1596 Regards, Jason On 3/5/07, Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite Hits Illinois Home

2007-03-10 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Ken, All, That looks nothing like a fresh iron meteorite. Fusion crust? That looks more like rust, and nevermind those shallow indentations that are being called regmaglypts - if you want to see what a fresh iron looks like, take out a Sikhote or Taza - or draw up some pics of any other

Re: [meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite Hits Illinois Home

2007-03-10 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Gary, All, Fallen meteorites do not have 'craters' on them. Their flight through earth's atmosphere removes all traces of original exterior surfaces that existed when the body was still in space (or, if the body is large enough to retain some of these features on its rear side, it simply

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Doubting Thomas

2007-09-22 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Tracy, All, I have problems with the meteorite theory: 1. Meteorites, as this List knows, come in cold, not hot enough to make the water in the crater boiling, as several witnesses stated. If the object was indeed large enough to create a crater (and there does appear to be one

[meteorite-list] Fw: New Lunar Available-2

2007-09-30 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, I've been asked to tell you that there are new pictures up on Mbark's page - here's the url: http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ I'd just like to add that, at the moment, Mbark's posted prices are ~1/2 that of what other dealers are asking - for nearly identical, if not

Re: [meteorite-list] Response to Randall, Michael

2007-10-03 Thread Jason Utas
Hello XXX, Randall, etc, I'm going to take the time to go through this bit-by-bit. I reviewed the report sent in by Mr. Farmer today and then I asked my Peruvian wife to her to call my friends in Desaguadero to find out what the situation is. I read Mike's field report and he had mentioned that

Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Show Info?

2007-10-09 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Dave, It's always the first weekend in February, or at least has been in the past, with the party being that Friday night, the auctions over Saturday (Sat. night = Michael Blood's) and Sunday (Lang's). Unless there's some odd change for this year (over the past decade or so, it hasn't

[meteorite-list] Amusing Ebay Auction

2007-10-15 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, Not the usual scammer, etc - this one I just find funny and thought you might like to see: http://cgi.ebay.com/GAO-Iron-Meteorite_W0QQitemZ270175803889QQihZ017QQcategoryZ3239QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem or

Re: [meteorite-list] INTERVIEW WITH CARANCAS LOCALS

2007-10-19 Thread Jason Utas
David, All, The point is that if such a violent incident had occurred in rural-any-small-town here in the US, people's minds would undoubtedly jump straight to the least rational cause - terrorism. You may say otherwise, but you know it's trueeven though the supposition that terrorists would

Re: [meteorite-list] Not a Peekskill...- or is it?

2007-10-18 Thread Jason Utas
Sure doesn't look like a meteorite...at all Have a look for yourself: http://www.ksn.com/news/also/10574416.html Regards, Jason On 10/18/07, Mike Groetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.dailytimesonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071016/NEWS01/71016045/1002/NEWS01 DELAWARE:

Re: [meteorite-list] Great picture that summarizes Peru'sscientific minds.

2007-10-26 Thread Jason Utas
Hola All, The trouble with this fellow's logic is namely that he appears to believe that the study of weathering effects on meteorites is more important than the study of what is (at this point, probably 'was') likely the largest fresh sample of the remnants of a solar nebula currently on the

Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - October 30, 2007

2007-10-30 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, Keith, Are you sure that's not a Gibeon? I've seen a good few Canyon Diablo's and Gibeon's, and, to be frank, I've seen a number of Gib's like it, and no CD's that've looked remotely similar. The patina is pretty typical of Gibeon as well, rather different than your average Canyon

Re: [meteorite-list] best meteowrong, yet

2007-10-30 Thread Jason Utas
Hello 'Mckinney Trammell,' All Right - if I'm not mistaken, the supposed Mojave iron meteorite similar to Albion, from ebay...well... It looks like slag/metal production waste (those bubbles are pretty telling), or maybe the result of some smelting gone-awry. The texture's rather off for

Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - October 30, 2007

2007-10-30 Thread Jason Utas
. Keith is my friend and when he said it was a Canyon Diablo he was stating the truth. On 10/30/07, Jason Utas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, Keith, Are you sure that's not a Gibeon? I've seen a good few Canyon Diablo's and Gibeon's, and, to be frank, I've seen a number of Gib's

[meteorite-list] Comet surprise makes it visible to naked eye

2007-11-05 Thread Jason Utas
http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/space/11/05/brighter.comet.ap/index.html KNOXVILLE, Tennessee (AP) -- A comet that unexpectedly brightened in the last couple of weeks and is now visible to the naked eye is attracting professional and amateur interest. [image] Comet 17P/Holmes is seen among the

Re: [meteorite-list] Bassikounou Vs Mali + smell

2007-11-06 Thread Jason Utas
Well, first-off, I'd have to say that you're comparing apples and oranges. Simply put, the specimen depicted in the first two pictures appears to have had a sustained independent flight, and has developed a crust that can truly be deemed 'primary.' The second specimen seems as though it might have

Re: [meteorite-list] Leigh Anne DelRay

2007-11-11 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Bill, All, I'm confused, Bill. I asked you for any evidence of this, and you failed to respond, but did choose to reply to another message on the same thread a few minutes later. I agree with Greg. This most certainly reflects upon you in a sour light, Bill. To say such things about a

Re: [meteorite-list] Leigh Anne DelRay

2007-11-11 Thread Jason Utas
Bill, All, I just checked the thread: the claims against Leigh-Anne were unsubstantiated, and, seeing as she is a well-regarded member of this community (by most), I would suggest that list members not spread about such rubbish unless they have evidence to back it up. Saying that there was an

Re: [meteorite-list] Leigh Anne DelRay

2007-11-13 Thread Jason Utas
was not accusing him of anything fraudulent with that statement. Regards, Jason On Nov 11, 2007 10:39 PM, Jason Utas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill, All, I just checked the thread: the claims against Leigh-Anne were unsubstantiated, and, seeing as she is a well-regarded member of this community (by most

Re: [meteorite-list] Freedom of religion/1968 South Africa Fall (?)

2007-11-19 Thread Jason Utas
Ed, The second I tell you when you can and can't pray (as well as for what you can pray) is the very second that you can tell me when I am able to use a historical figure's name in any writing I see fit to put to email or paper or any such thing. Until then, by god, I'll not pay you any heed

Re: [meteorite-list] BIG VENUS NEWS

2007-11-29 Thread Jason Utas
Larry, Sterling, Even supposing that there had been some sort of life on Venus, the odds that the development of life there would have even somewhat paralleled evolution on Earth is so unlikely as to be, in my opinion, nearly impossible. Should there have been any life on Venus, it is logical to

Re: [meteorite-list] AL HAGGOUNIA 001 (NOT AUBRITE)

2007-11-30 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Adam, All, Adam said: It is obvious that this meteorite contains chondrules therefore calling it anything but a chondrite doesn't make any sense to me. Wold Cottage, as well as several Acapulcoites and Winonaites contain chondrule remains, though the official definitions of such

Re: [meteorite-list] AL HAGGOUNIA 001 (NOT AUBRITE)

2007-11-30 Thread Jason Utas
Regards, Adam --- Jason Utas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Adam, All, Adam said: It is obvious that this meteorite contains chondrules therefore calling it anything but a chondrite doesn't make any sense to me. Wold Cottage, as well as several Acapulcoites

Re: [meteorite-list] AL HAGGOUNIA 001 (NOT AUBRITE)

2007-12-01 Thread Jason Utas
Hola Adam, All, I never called it a type three if you read my emails although I am confident with the designation scientists with decades of experience assigned it. Interestingly put. Well, I did read your emails, as well as those posted by your brother, and, to be frank, although you don't

Re: [meteorite-list] magnetic meteorites

2007-12-02 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Mike, ~92% of all meteorites are magnetic; all irons, all stony irons, and nearly all stones are magnetic. The only meteorites that are not magnetic would be the HED's (some of these are slightly magentic), as well as Aubrites (though some of these contain iron as well), planetary meteorites

[meteorite-list] Meteorite dates lunar volcanoes *Picture of Kalahari 009*

2007-12-09 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, Unsure if this article has already been posted, but it hasn't arrived in my inbox yet, so here goes. Article text below; see link for the picture. Jason --- http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7128000.stm Meteorite dates lunar volcanoes Volcanoes were active on the Moon's

Re: [meteorite-list] 33,000 BCE asteroid impact

2007-12-13 Thread Jason Utas
E.P., All, Well, that hardly seems likely; no crater-forming mechanism would create iron pellets of ejecta such as what occurred on those tusks, and the likelihood of their being caused by a low-altitude airburst, though intriguing, seems physically impossible, at least if we're talking about a

Re: [meteorite-list] Mammoths Found Peppered with Meteorite Fragments

2007-12-13 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Tracy, All, I agree, but the main problem is that the spherule-type material from Canyon Diablo wasn't fired out of anything; it condensed out of a cloud of vapour that formed as a result of the meteorites vaporization upon impact. They weren't necessarily hot to any appreciable degree when

Re: [meteorite-list] Mammoths Found Peppered with Meteorite Fragments

2007-12-13 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Sterling, Tracy, All, Sterling, you said, As always, when people dislike an explanation, they do not search for an explanation that works, they attack the facts for demanding one. I agree...kind of. While I do agree that attacking an existing hypothesis may well be easier than coming up

Re: [meteorite-list] Re Firstone: Anything but impact, eh?

2007-12-14 Thread Jason Utas
Hola E.P., All, Perhaps data from Barringer could throw more light on the reentry of iron spherules from an iron ground impact. I seem to remember frei-punkt, a maximum speed for air entry. Reentry of iron sperules? Maximum speed? With Canyon Diablo, they condensed out of a cloud of vapour

Re: [meteorite-list] Peppered Mammoth tusks

2007-12-15 Thread Jason Utas
Hello E.P., All, First off, West was looking for bones from the comet impact of 10,900 BCE, and found the peppered tusks. When radiocarbon dated these tusks turned out to be from 31,000 BCE, and not from the 10,900 BCE comet impact. Ok... Second, there is no terrestrial process that

Re: [meteorite-list] Sweet-and-sour Pepper Mammoth experiment

2007-12-15 Thread Jason Utas
Tracy, All, Tracy, you said: There are a couple scenarios where a good-size impactor could strike and leave no crater, but create havoc. One is if it made a water strike close to a coastline, and another is if it struck an ice sheet, like a glacier, which subsequently melted. Are there any

Re: [meteorite-list] Mammoth Stew

2007-12-16 Thread Jason Utas
Hello E.P., All, 1) From the descriptions, the spherules in the tusks appear to be the result of the condensation of iron plasma, the same as at Barringer crater. Completely wrong. The spherules from CD are spherules that condensed out of the atmosphere and fell to Earth as solid spherules

Re: [meteorite-list] Mammoth Stew

2007-12-16 Thread Jason Utas
E.P., Sterling, All, Firstly, it's not my crater, nor my impactites. I first saw this on National Geographic TV, and had not even read Firestone's Mammoth Trumpet piece until Sterling pointed it out to us. This was Kenneth's team's work. Well, seeing as you're the only one advocating such a

Re: [meteorite-list] Mammoth Stew

2007-12-16 Thread Jason Utas
Sterling, E.P., All, For the record, I like my peppered mammoth with lemon butter... Thick-cut, salt and pepper. Jason, think about Tunguska. A 25 megaton airburst that left no crater, no pits, not even the tiniest, no material remains whatsoever, no isotopic traces in reliable amounts,

Re: [meteorite-list] Mammoth Stew

2007-12-17 Thread Jason Utas
Hola All, But the main problem is that impact rates have not been constant since the formation of a solid lunar crust a number of billions of years ago, and as such, this declining rate biases the results put forth. Simply put, we're talking about craters having formed in the past ~50k years, as

Re: [meteorite-list] Mammoth Stew

2007-12-17 Thread Jason Utas
the bones, do not, in my opinion, exist. Regards, Jason Sterling K. Webb -- - Original Message - From: Jason Utas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007

Re: [meteorite-list] Mammoth Stew - first you cut up the Mammoth

2007-12-20 Thread Jason Utas
Hola Sterling, E.P., All, Concerning recent impacts (12,000 years old), what I've noticed over the years is that some people go into denial, and those denial mechanisms are sometimes really pretty bizarre. It's tough to accept on a gut level that as things now sit you, your family, your

Re: [meteorite-list] Mammoth Stew, then you take the pieces back to your fire

2007-12-20 Thread Jason Utas
E.P, All, Well, probably, though we have no real proof of their having been blasted to death *anywhere.* Denial takes many forms. Show me proof. Show me blackened bones. Oh, that's right - there isn't any. As I said before, I won't say that such events haven't happened, because in all

Re: [meteorite-list] Mammoth Stew - first you cut up the Mammoth

2007-12-20 Thread Jason Utas
to be logical. Regards, Jason Sterling K. Webb --- - Original Message - From: Jason Utas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 3:11 AM Subject: Re

Re: [meteorite-list] Mmammoth Stew...lies, etc

2007-12-20 Thread Jason Utas
E.P. To be perfectly frank, I've had enough of you, but I do like getting the last word in, so here you go. If you stopped lying - and maybe started obeying the laws of physics, scientific method, not to mention basic logic, we might get somewhere. Thanks for the compliment, Jason. I don't

Re: [meteorite-list] Mammoth Stew - let leg simmer on fire in skin

2007-12-21 Thread Jason Utas
E.P., All, To be perfectly frank, I've had enough of you, but I do like getting the last word in, so here you go. Why do I have this feeling that this will not be the last word we hear from Jason? Probably because we've not seen the last of you either; you're doing the same thing ;)

Re: [meteorite-list] Mammoth Stew: end

2007-12-23 Thread Jason Utas
E.P., After reading your last post, I've simply come to decide that this is no longer worth the time. Your selective replies, paired with your faulty logic - and failure to even think or reason in a logical manner has left me with little hope of ever bringing you to your senses. I met with a few

Re: [meteorite-list] ARCTIC IRONS, was Mammoth Stew, etc

2007-12-24 Thread Jason Utas
Hola All, Sterling, you said: The distribution (or relative absence) of irons in NWA material shows that there is no doubt that the NWA area was cleaned out of most of the iron meteorites that could be found thousands of years ago. Of course, they missed a few. But if the NWA meteorites

Re: [meteorite-list] ARCTIC IRONS, was Mammoth Stew, etc

2007-12-24 Thread Jason Utas
thought of yet. Sterling K. Webb - Original Message - From: Jason Utas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Jason

2007-12-24 Thread Jason Utas
Meaning, what exactly? On Dec 24, 2007 6:01 PM, Peter A Shugar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sterling, Is it just me? Or is jason about two tacos and a burrito short of a combination plate? Pete __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] ARCTIC IRONS, was Mammoth Stew, etc

2007-12-24 Thread Jason Utas
before disagreeing with it. The source was Dr. Svend Buhl. He's on the List, so maybe you could ask (politely) how he derived the 0.2% figure? Sterling K. Webb - - Original Message - From: Jason Utas [EMAIL

Re: [meteorite-list] Jason

2007-12-24 Thread Jason Utas
I would say that if you don't care enough to involve yourself in the discussion - or know little enough about the subject to participate, that one should simply refrain from throwing comments like that around - say, those that pertain to nothing other than personal jibes. Over here we would call

Re: [meteorite-list] Stuff

2007-12-25 Thread Jason Utas
Hola All, 1) Thanks Darren, and others who messaged me in private. 2) Pete, By making such a message public, you most certainly meant it to be offensive; otherwise, you would have addressed it privately. You meant for everyone to see it, whether or not you gave the post adequate thought before

Re: [meteorite-list] Carrying idiots to Newcastle (and back)

2007-12-26 Thread Jason Utas
E.P., I said I wouldn't argue the point anymore, but this is just insulting - after I say I'm to leave, you repeatedly bash me? You're going into overkill here - one might almost think you're compensating for your own beliefs with this little romp-around. Sterling himself just told you that the

[meteorite-list] Fwd: Meteorite crater mystery/trip

2008-01-10 Thread Jason Utas
Whoops - first time this went out, my email was set to rich-formatting it for some reason. In case that doesn't go through, here's a plain version. -- Forwarded message -- Hola Graham, All, Been busy with college apps these past few weeks, and am getting caught up with emails

Re: [meteorite-list] intriguing Question

2008-01-10 Thread Jason Utas
Hola Peter, All, I know individual aspect of your questions have been addressed, but I'd like to as well... I know the Sahara desert is about a galgillion square miles. Then there are the deserts in Calif., South America, the Antarctic continent and God only knows where else. Why don't I see any

Re: [meteorite-list] Chat

2008-01-13 Thread Jason Utas
Hola All, This was as close as I could get: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.meteoritearticles.com/chatroom.html But the java programs don't seem to initiate correctly - at least, not for me. Anyone else have any luck? Regards, Jason On Jan 13, 2008 3:03 PM, dean bessey [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [meteorite-list] What Kind Of NWA Is This?

2008-01-23 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Eric, From the pictures, it's hard to tell, but I would say that it is most likely an ordinary chondrite. That said, the pictures aren't clear enough to tell for certain - to me it almost looks a little bit like a CR2, but I would only be able to tell with a) the stone in my hands or b)

Re: [meteorite-list] TKW help

2008-01-26 Thread Jason Utas
Hola Dave, All, If you're making accurate labels, you might add 36kg to the tkw of Tata (listed at 113 kg) - and make that two pieces found, as opposed to one. Kem Kem...I have no idea. Regards, Jason On 26 Jan 2008 16:41:59 UT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi David and List, Does anyone have the

Re: [meteorite-list] Question about Jiddat al Harasis 073

2008-01-28 Thread Jason Utas
Hola Tracy, Ken, All, Yes, the colour does look a bit off, but in this case I think it might be due to odd photography - the specimens' textures actually look meteoric and some of the pieces reflect light in a way that I would expect from a weathered ordinary chondrite (oxidized metal appears to

Re: [meteorite-list] Re; Inexpensive Irons

2008-02-04 Thread Jason Utas
Hola Bob, E.P., All, Hardly - the stuff they sell at the Meteor Crater store is shale. They don't sell real meteorites on-site, though you can find freshly dug-up irons on ebay from hunters for an average going price of ~$0.30/g. You'd probably be best-off buying some Odessa nuggets or a lot of

Re: [meteorite-list] Re Aubrite

2008-02-05 Thread Jason Utas
Hola Pete, All, It's a meteorite; it looks to be a piece of Allende or another CV3, but it's certainly not an Aubrite, and is most likely not from Australia (why would it be when it looks to be Allende...). So...an expensive bit of Allende with a shiny tag. Regards, Jason On Feb 5, 2008 12:43 PM,

Re: [meteorite-list] What Mars looks like under the impact dust

2008-02-11 Thread Jason Utas
Hola E.P., All, while in Tucson noticed its low density. I remember when Michael Casper let me handle one of the first new martian meteorites back in 1999, and my sudden understanding of exactly what 1/3 Earth's gravity really means. Martian meteorites are as dense as earth rocks; the fact

Re: [meteorite-list] woman hit by meteorite?

2008-02-11 Thread Jason Utas
Hola Laurence, All, Seems unlikely; here's a picture of the stone: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article93341.ece Doesn't look very good... Regards, Jason On Feb 11, 2008 10:16 PM, Laurence Garvie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was listening to the London news and they were discussing

Re: [meteorite-list] final pics and tucson report

2008-02-12 Thread Jason Utas
Bob, On the bottom of his message - Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! The Asteroid Belt! ---Chicagometeorites.net--- Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999 Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites ...it does work. Jason On Feb 12, 2008 6:39 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, As a

Re: [meteorite-list] Wed Total Lunar Eclipse

2008-02-20 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, I managed to find a user on Flickr with a good set of shots - see here: http://flickr.com/photos/apailthorp/2280482061/ If you click on 'All Sizes' just above the image, you get full-sized...his/her shots have pretty good resolution. There are probably better out there, but this was

Re: [meteorite-list] Washington Meteorite Map!

2008-02-21 Thread Jason Utas
Hola Chris, Eric, All, Well, I would think that it would be all the more difficult due to the snow on the ground; assuming that the fireball didn't terminate over cleared land, the general Area (Northern Oregon to Southern Washington, at elevations of ~2,000 ft+) are currently under two to four

Re: [meteorite-list] A new area to hunt?

2008-02-21 Thread Jason Utas
Well, E.P., I suppose the only trouble would be finding responsible meteorite hunters who would hunt without disturbing the ancient designs (which seems fairly hopeless given the historical record of treasure-seekers in general). Yes, there are a number of responsible hunters out there, but one

[meteorite-list] Oriented Meteorite Pictures

2008-03-16 Thread Jason Utas
Hola All, For those interested, I just uploaded a whole lot of new meteorite pictures to my flickr account, available at the following url: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cameteoritefinder/sets/72157594532840297/ I would go straight to the 'meteorites' set; there are some other pictures up, but I

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Wanted Meteorites with Craters

2006-06-19 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, If anyone can host some images for me, I can send them some pics of cratered Sikhotes to be put up. I've been collecting them at shows over the last few years and have examples on both the trailing and leading edges of specimens, as well as a few on non-oriented irons. Mark Bostick

[meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin 'Impact Pit' Pics

2006-07-08 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, After a bit of work on his part, and no fewer than thirty-seven emails that did or didn't get to wherever they were supposed to go (we may never know what gets lost within the bowels of the internet...), Jeff Kuyken was able to get a number of pics of cratered Sikhotes up onto his

Re: [meteorite-list] AD: METEORITE CLASSIFICATION SERVICE

2006-07-13 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Greg, All, Thesemementos were used a means of fundraising. You don't seem to realize that such a new institution needs to attain a certain amount of endowment money if it is ever to succeed, and there were initially very few donations - so theFukang displays wereconceived tomake people more

Re: [meteorite-list] AD: METEORITE CLASSIFICATION SERVICE

2006-07-14 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Stan, All, Well no one has to donate anything to get the classification service once the program is up and running...why would you assume that? I'd suggest that if you care at all about such a small and exhaustible resource being expended without regard for future science, that it would

Re: [meteorite-list] AD: METEORITE CLASSIFICATION SERVICE

2006-07-14 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Stan, All, Well, lets take this apart, eh? Save the space rocks! The meteorites are vanishing and if something isn'tdone soon, most of Earth's rare space rocks could be gone in a lifetime orso says the University of Arizona's Southwest Meteorite Center, a newly founded organization created

Re: [meteorite-list] AD: METEORITE CLASSIFICATION SERVICE

2006-07-15 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Stan, All, Alright, again :) sorry i took the quote from a source that listed that as a source Editor's note: collectSPACE's collecting categories do not include meteorites for good reason: our focus is on space exploration history. Meteorites, on the other hand, are the natural history of

Re: [meteorite-list] AD: METEORITE CLASSIFICATION SERVICE

2006-07-15 Thread Jason Utas
Hello David, All, Well done. You've missed my point entirely. And wayto be melodramatic. I don't care whether or not people have collections. It's my opinion that if they want one, they should be able to do whatever they want with it. But they should want to conserve such rare items and use

Re: [meteorite-list] AD: METEORITE CLASSIFICATION SERVICE

2006-07-15 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Stan, David, All, Well, here's a quote from that page...seems as if the writer probablywasn'tup to speed on his meteorite-related info I guess..huh.and yet their writter seemed to have a pretty good grasp on the 'sky is falling' tone of the SWMC's press releases / interviews. Yeah, shame

Re: [meteorite-list] AD: METEORITE CLASSIFICATION SERVICE

2006-07-15 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Stan, All, Just a heads up - Stan, you might want to read the last paragraph before you take the time to respond...it'd piss me off if I wrotea long replyand saw that there. And now for the issues at hand. And as for Marvin being in charge of an institution that would grind upperfectly

Re: [meteorite-list] AD: METEORITE CLASSIFICATION SERVICE

2006-07-15 Thread Jason Utas
Hello David, All, Alrighty, down to business. Well done.Thank you. I hope you got a smile out of it, but I'm sure not as funnyas Martin Altmann. Don't worry, I've yet to reply to his off-list reply, but I'll get to it asapwell, now there's an on-list one...which one Martin? You've missed

Re: [meteorite-list] AD: METEORITE CLASSIFICATION SERVICE

2006-07-15 Thread Jason Utas
...but then again, I'm telling you what he told me, so maybe you should just stew about this on your own time, and stop wasting other peoples.' Jason Utas On 7/15/06, stan . [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What Marvin almost always does is sell half of a specimen and keep the restintact.In this fashion, he

Re: [meteorite-list] AD: METEORITE CLASSIFICATION SERVICE

2006-07-15 Thread Jason Utas
Allright, down to business again...a quick message before I leave. Hello David, All, Thanks for your thoughtful replies. I don't have nearly the worries thatsome may have over this new planned U of A repository, but I amconcerned about the temptation by owners of rare meteorites to sell to a

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