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Re: [meteorite-list] 100 year old meteorite story from Sweden
by chris aubeck
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Hi Göran!
Ah, so it was one of those stories after all!
It sounds a lot like the Italian article I translated
I have no url for this article but I thought I'd share it here just in
case it interested anyone.
Chris
From the Central Northern Burnett Times, 9.11.06
Meteorite's mystery puts Bruce between a rock and a hard place.
Bruce Jamieson has brought to the attention of the Central
Northern
If all product advertisements began with AD in the subject line,
members could filter them into a separate email folder.
I personally don't worry about such publicity as I accepted it would
happen when I joined the list. Of course, my interest in meteorites is
different (I have never knowingly
Hi list,
I was wondering, have any of you been approached with any really
absurd meteowrongs? It could be fun to collect some here.
Regards,
Chris
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Hi Mark,
A few years ago I spoke to descendants of the alleged witnesses in
this case. Not surprisingly, they had never heard of it.
I always check meteoritearticles.com for new items, especially the
extravagant claims. Is it still updated?
Best wishes,
Chris
Paper: The New York Times
Was there a meteorite in this location, at that time?
Best,
Chris
1859 07 06 Coshocton Progressive Age [Ohio]
July 6, 1859
Great Natural Phenomenon.
From the Oswego Palladium.
On Wednesday (yesterday) morning [June 29]
the inhabitants of the towns of Boylston and
Redfield, in this county,
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Subject: [meteorite-list] The large meteorite of 1859: anyone know if
thishas a grain of truth?
Was there a meteorite
Hi list,
Can anyone tell me when the word fossil was first used to describe
meteorites of this kind?
The use of the term to refer to obtaining anything by digging comes
from the early 17th century, its use with chiefly organic remains a
century later (1736). I was wondering whether the word, in
Hi,
I have found several references from 1871, using Google Book Search.
Viewing is restricted to:
Fossil Meteorite.— A new meteorite has just been discovered in the miocène ...
This is the first instance on record of a truly fossil meteorite having been
You can see further examples here:
Hi list,
As some of you know, I am always looking for stories of strange
meteorites for my folklore archive.
These can be old or new tales, fragmentary or anecdotic or full
reports. Meteorites bearing inscriptions, faces (yes, I noted the
Jesus and Elvis appearances), containing artifacts, weird
Hi list,
I am currently trying to write an article which demolishes certain
myths about meteorites.
One of these - I assume it is a myth - is the idea that most
meteorites fall at 3:00pm.
I have no idea where this comes from, but I also have no statistics to
demonstrate it to be false. Could
Hi list,
While I am writing an article to demolish certain myths about
meteorites, I have come across the idea that major falls (large
objects) usually occur in February or late Spring.
While I doubt this is true, I have no statistics to prove it, similar
to the 3:00 pm idea.
Anyone able to
von Michael
L Blood
Gesendet: Samstag, 16. Februar 2008 20:15
An: chris aubeck; Meteorite List
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] The 3:00pm fall statistic?
Hi Chris,
Why not just look at the times of 100 random falls
(Meteorites A to Z or The Catalogue of Meteorites).
Best wishes
Many thanks Bernd,
But I can't find a single programme to open these Powerpoint slides.
It seems they are earlier versions than anything I have can handle.
If anyone can convert one for me to a later format I'd love to see them.
Thanks!
Chris
On 16 Feb 2008 22:52:49 UT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I received them and managed to see them in the end with an old Microsoft viewer.
Office 2007 doesn't support PPT 95, it seems.
Chris
On Feb 17, 2008 12:22 AM, Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Greetings Bernd,
Hope you and Pauline are both well and happy.
I believe you
. I have
suppressed the names of the meteorites.
http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/csv/times.csv
Jeff
At 06:29 PM 2/16/2008, chris aubeck wrote:
I received them and managed to see them in the end with an old
Microsoft viewer.
Office 2007 doesn't support PPT 95, it seems.
Chris
On Feb
Helps me!
Chris
On Feb 19, 2008 3:08 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 2/17/2008 2:41:42 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I believe there is a cluster of falls in late Febuary and also in mid
to late April but I am relying on memory and did this
Hi list,
Has anyone heard of this find? Can anyone tell me how likely it is
that this object was actually a meteorite?
Regards,
Chris
The Terril (Terril, Iowa) Tribune
October 24th 1901
p.4
The University of Wisconsin has
come into possession of a unique piece
of meteoric iron. The date of
ago).
(http://www.geology.wisc.edu/~museum/exhibits.html)
Best,
ken newton
chris aubeck wrote:
Hi list,
Has anyone heard of this find? Can anyone tell me how likely it is
that this object was actually a meteorite?
Regards,
Chris
The Terril (Terril, Iowa) Tribune
Hi Herman,
Do you know whether the shape was actually shield-like? Is this even possible?
Best,
Chris
On 2/24/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Chris;
Yes this is a meteorite,the name it goes by is ALGOMA III CD Medium
octahedrite;band width 0.6mm.approx recovered
Hi list,
Does anyone know about a meteorite which fell in Lesves (50' 22 N - 4' 44 E), near Namur,in Belgium, on April 13th, 1896, at 7:30 pm? Apparentlya farmer's son was injured but survived. Asmall crater was found.
The stone (olivine - hypersthene chondrite, subtype L6)), about 8cm x 20
It would be interesting to know where it fell.
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7911/1150/1600/UFO%20report%20from%201932.jpg
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Chris
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Hi list,
If anyone comes across any claims or anecdotes about meteorites with
strange properties, bearing mysterious marks or containing strange
artifacts, do let me know so I can add them to my archive of
meteorite-related lore.
Many thanks to those who have helped me in the past with this
Amazing how the words the only person known to have been hit by a
meteorite are almost always followed by a name I've never read
before.
Sometimes the claims are about animals, not people, for which I assume
the odds are higher. Whether this makes horse riders more likely
targets is probably
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Chris..Mind Sharing these claim's/lore...etc.. on this subject?..I'm
highly Interested...regards...Kevin Decker.
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Tales
Hi list,
Does anyone happen to know about a meteorite that fell on November
29th 1820 in Italy? I found an article describing the fall in The
Times of London from 1821, and there are a few scattered notes here
and there (Greg, etc) but nothing specific.
Thanks,
Chris
Hi,
Greg has:
Nov 29 1820, Cosenza; Ionian Isles ... ... ... lighted everything up;
like daylight. Calabria. Arago says a shower of stones; other
accounts, only a great meteor. No mention of any detonations.
So I know such a case exists.
Best,
Chris
On 8/4/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL
were moon creatures caught up in
lunar whirlwinds...
If anyone can has come across any tales of this kind I
would very much appreciate a reply at
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I'm currently changing my list address from Yahoo to
Gmail but it takes a couple of days.
Many thanks,
Chris Aubeck
c/Mayor 51, 3
at:
http://www.meteoritetimes.com/Back_Links/2005/march/Accretion_Desk.htm
Also, there are wonderful stories embedded within
Burke's book Cosmic Debris.
Cheers,
Martin
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Dear list,
I am compiling a catalogue of tall meteorite
tales
Hi,
I'm looking to buy a copy of Cosmic Debris:
Meteorites in History for less that $60. Impossible?
Possibly, but my situation forces me to try.
Any beat-up, coffee-stained, blood-stained copy would
be gratefully considered.
Please contact me at this address:
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Many thanks,
Hello,
Can anyone help me get a quick scan or photocopy of
this article?
The Fiery Snake of Tsarev.
Authors:
Gallant, A. R.
Journal:
Meteorite, Vol. 5, p. 8-11 (1999).
I'd pay any costs incurred, of course.
Thank you,
Chris
NOTE: If you can help, please contact me at
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How can I change my list membership to this address? I
tried through the webpage but it hasn't helped.
Hello,
Can anyone help me get a quick scan or photocopy of
this article?
The Fiery Snake of Tsarev.
Authors:
Gallant, A. R.
Thanks for the advice, Geoff!
Chris
The Fiery Snake of Tsarev.
Authors: Gallant, A. R.
Dear Chris:
The old issues of Meteorite magazine are quite difficult to come by.
Roy Gallant's Tsarev article was reprinted in his book Meteorite
Hunter: The Search for Siberian Meteorite Craters
Hi,
Last year, on September 21st, I received a reply on this list from
Göran Axelsson which ended, enigmatically:
As a sidenote there were a meteorite found in sweden almost 100 years
ago with fossiles in it. Anyone want to debunk that one?
:-)
/Göran
I was seriously interested in seeing a
I think he was talking about the fossil meteorites Brunflo, Osterplana and
others found in Sweden rather than fossils in meteorites.
Look here:
http://www.psrd.hawaii.edu/Mar04/fossilMeteorites.html
Best regards,
Jörn
Hi Jörn,
I did wonder whether that was the case as a Google
.
Suddenly I found a rusty ball in a stone. No one had seen anything like
that, but after the first excitement had died down we started to realise
that it probably was a pyrite ball, not a meteorite.
:-)
/Göran
chris aubeck wrote:
Hi,
Last year, on September 21st, I received a reply
Hi Sterling,
Thanks for this information, I find it interesting and useful for my
own studies. However, I do not expect it to be the fossil story
original mentioned by Göram. Not because I know much about sedimentary
meteorite falls, but because I know a thing or two about alleged
fossil-bearing
I was just wondering, how would people have ground meteoric metal to a
powder in 1888?
Chris
Michigan | Saint Joseph | St Joseph Herald | 1888-12-01
The Walloons of Belgium are
about tho most superstitious people in
the world. Ono of their beliefs is
that an aerolite is an infallible means
[Oops, our mails crossed simultaneously - mine offlist to you and
yours on the list saying the same basic thing. For the record, though,
the supposition that the direction a pentagram points means anything
particular is erroneous. I looked into this topic last year when I
began studying shields
Hi Dirk,
What's the reference for that one? I find the fact that the same
erroneous ideas were attached to meteorites in 11th century China as
in 19th century America very interesting.
Best,
Chris
On 9/12/05, drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear List:
I am reviewing some notes that I
Ohio | Sandusky | The Sandusky Clarion | 1848-01-25
A REMARKABLE AEROLITE.
On the 14th July last, a remarkable aerolite
fell at Brannan, at Bohemia. Two fragments were found,
one weighing fifteen, the other twenty-one kilogrammes.
The aeorilite [sic] appeared to proceed, as is very often
Another explanation might be that the report was translated into
English by someone who wasn't entirely sure about the word for spark
in the original language.
I think it's a good exercise to discuss these old reports as well as
catalogue them, so thanks for the input!
Chris
On 9/13/05, Chris
Hi Dirk,
Big thanks for this reference, it serves me well!
In fact I am interested in the mention of the thunder-god`s ink
block particularly. I wonder whether this has any connection with the
dragon eggs (which I have always considered very meteorite-like) that,
in traditional belief, provided
Dear list,
I have spent some weeks trying to locate information about a supposed
meteorite fall at 11:30pm on August 10th 1862 in Kingston, Jamaica.
The Kingston libraries and university have not replied to any of my
e-mails.
All I have is note dated 1874 saying details can be found in an
Hi list,
I just need to confirm whether any such fall was registered on this
date or thereabouts in Jamaica, to finish an article. Does anyone have
a record for one?
Thanks and regards,
Chris
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Hi Anne,
Thanks for that!
Yes, I see I need to invest in a few reference works now I've entered the field.
Can I ask you for one more favour? Can you give me something I can use
as a bibliographical reference for the 1885 report (page number etc)?
Absolutely no hurry.
Thanks again,
Chris
No
Dear Bernd,
That makes a lot of sense!
As part of my historical/folkloric study I am writing about a
meteorite that allegedly fell on that date near Kingston, Jamaica.
The earliest reference to it is from 1874 - a very imaginative
account, but in my experience the dates are generally chosen for
No, August Nathaniel Bohner (1809 - 1892), scientist and theologist.
The book I'm using has chapters on volcanoes, meteorites and the
seasons of Mars.
I'd tell you more about his weird meteorite tale but you'd just think
it's silly!
Regards,
Chris
On 18 Sep 2005 20:23:49 UT, [EMAIL
Dear list,
After my recent request for information regarding a possible meteorite
fall in 1862, I found one report which apparently has not been
collected elsewhere.
Source: Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society XXX, No. 357,
July-September 1718, pp. 837-838.
Article: A letter of the
I came across this during my research. Check it out.
http://www.meteoritehunters.blogspot.com/
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Rephrasing your question I understand you're asking Are you the
moderator of this most despicable website... but not to worry. It's
not me, my approach to the fields I am exploring is somewhat less
trivial. I am also not a meteorite dealer or even a specialist in the
material. As far as I know
Hi,
There's a little more detail but nothing that would lead to a find, I
expect. I will send you a copy of the original 18th c. article in a
pdf later today.
Best,
Chris
On 9/27/05, McCartney Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is very interesting. Is there more detail?
--
Hello,
Does anyone know whether the black stone of Paphos, the stone once
worshipped as Aphrodite, is truly a meteorite?
I am looking for a text in the classics describing the fall, but I
thought I'd ask about it here, first.
Thanks,
Chris
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Sacred black stone, this one the goddess Aphrodite from Paphos,
Cyprus. Worshiped as early as the 12th century BC.
I see, yes. Odd how there aren't any more photos of it online.
I guess it had an interesting first day on Earth. For someone
That's a useful quote, I can use this!
How would you say they probably identified the stone as the meteorite
they saw fall, considering the problems such identifications usually
cause?
It makes me wonder whether baetyls which were not meteorites were
actually meteowrongs, discovered after a
Also, is hondrit a translation for chondrite, or just a typo?
Not a typo.
http://images.google.com/images?sourceid=gmailq=hondritsa=Ntab=wi
Does anyone have any information about a museum called the
Mineralosko-Petrografski Muzej?
The MINERALOSKO-PETROGRAFSKI MUZEJ is in fact the Natural
According to the November 13th-14th 1884 issue of L'Eco di Bergamo a
loud explosion had been heard in the sky over Bergamo just after
11:00am on October 24th. When a group of peasants said that they had
observed a red fireball on the same day both this and the explosion
were immediately assumed to
Would make a nice
addition to any meteorite collection.
Chris. Spratt
Victoria, BC
What, you plan to steal the Aphrodite stone?? :-)
Seriously, I'd love to hear of your findings and maybe see another
photo of it. I'm not even sure how big it is supposed to be.
Chris
of the fossils but, as I said,
the event was real.
Thanks,
Chris
On 10/2/05, M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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I not have any information of this fall. I have just
write now to municipality of Sorisole for ask
informations and now I see what answer.
Matteo
--- chris
Hi Matteo,
The date could not have been December 13th 1884 as the article
describing it was dated November 13th. On December 9th and 10th
follow-ups were printed, and this is where the hoax story began, I
think. The Gazzetta de Bergamo commented on the 15th of December that
only God knew when the
Harlan,
Gmail has 2650 MB of free storage, why not give it a spin? I'm sending
an invite.
Chris
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I search for reports of ancient engraved meteorites all the time and
the article about Mandibles' collection was news to me.
Maybe they were Ica stones after all.
As usual, the story makes me wonder (1) how the Incas knew they were
meteorites and (2) whether the collection owner really knew if
Dear list,
Could anyone tell me how a hollow meteorite might
form? I have come across a couple of references to
meteorites with internal cavities and cannot see how
this would happen.
Thanks very much,
Chris
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Hi Bernd, list,
Thanks for your prompt response.
As a folklorist and historian I have been surprised by
the number of weird meteorite tales I have found in
18th-early 20th century newspapers and books. I have
received many of these during the research phase of a
Fortean/Folklore-related project
Thanks, list,
For informing me about the hollow meteorites. I
sincerely appreciate the comments and links, and now
understand that hollow aerolites simply do not
exist, and therefore were not the inspiration for the
19th century tales I have come across.
Many thanks once again. I will post
Hi David, listfolk,
This is a very interesting question as I find many
19th century references to (1) diamonds and (2) gold
found in meteorites. I am usually inclined to label
these hoaxes, but perhaps this would be too hasty.
If diamonds were seen in meteorites by their finders I
suppose they
Hi listfolk,
Can anyone tell me what they think this might have
been?
Was the spike a genuine meteoric artefact? I've
never heard of anything like it. What about the
glass?
Just curious to test the validity of these old
articles...
Many thanks,
Chris
Hi listfolk,
Can anyone tell me what they think this might have
been?
Was the spike a genuine meteoric artefact? I've
never heard of anything like it. What about the
glass?
Just curious to test the validity of these old
articles...
Many thanks,
Chris
Dear list,
Heres a batch of meteoric gold/diamonds reports
from 1850 to 1934. It would be interesting to know
whether these are mainly or partly hoaxes. Can anyone
identify any real ones amongst them?
Finders credits go to Mr. Aubeck, Mr. Clark, Mr.
Brock, and to the other members of the
Hi Mark,
Many thanks for the link to the article at your site.
I guess the item found was not meteoric but as I am
collecting these reports I shall add it to my
catalogue of rogue cases, and make a reference to the
one you cite, too.
Many members of Magonia Exchange have found very
Hi list,
I haven't seen this book yet. Can you tell me whether the author
claims any of the meteorites have weird properties? This is the
folklore I'm studying.
Thanks,
Chris
On 11/18/05, Charles O'Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have to admit that I can thank good old Erich Von Daniken for
Hi,
I've come across this reference, does anyone know anything about this
probable meteorite?
07-24-1960
A giant object, glowing like the sun and travelling at tremendous
speed, exploded in the sea with a terrifying roar off Mt Drummond on
Lower Eyre Peninsula on July 24 1960. About five
Hi colleagues,
I'm trying to finish a magazine article in record time.
Could someone possibly briefly comment on this item? I am interested
in what may have caused the markings, some kind of modern-day
diagnosis. What else can be deduced about the object?
Many thanks,
Chris
Samuel
Flow lines, thanks, that may be the word I was looking for!
Chris
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From: chris aubeck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mar 12, 2006 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] An unusual spam post
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Software robots hunt and collect email addresses from webpages and
then build directories from them
Hi Rob,
Absolutely is an adverb, not an adjective, and it can indeed be used
as an exclamation to mean certainly! twice consecutively.
Absolutely was also the second album by the British band Madness,
released in 1980. Perhaps God prefers rock to ska and wanted to make
this clear?
Chris Aubeck
As I said to someone offlist, maybe the seller was deaf and God was
forced to repeat himself, hence the two absolutelies. If so, this
may explain a whole lot more -
did the seller mishear Obey!!! for the name of an online auction site?
Chris Aubeck
On 4/1/06, Notkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
Hi list,
If anyone comes across any tales or anecdotes about meteorites with
strange properties, bearing mysterious marks or containing strange
artifacts, do let me know so I can add them to my archive of
meteorite-related lore.
Many thanks to those who have helped me in the past.
Kind
Dear list,
I have noticed that an increase in alleged meteorite
reports in the last month or two is leading some to
claim all kinds of unlikely things about the state of
the cosmos.
Can anyone tell me to what extent there has been an
increase in actual fireball-like phenomena in, say,
the
A quick question:
I have found some historical accounts of meteorites
with red veins, supposedly cinnabar.
Can such things be?
Thanks,
Chris
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Hi Bernd,
That helps enormously!
In fact, I was thinking of several cases in which
stones said to have dropped from the sky bore veiny
letters on their surface, cinnabar-coloured scrawl
that people interpreted as messages from God. Having
seen narrow lines of cinnabar in rock, I wondered
whether
Dear list,
I would very much like to know how much of the
following may be based on scientific procedure and
observation, and whether as a whole it makes any sense
at all. I found the text in an article dated
originally to 1864 and have translated it to the best
of my ability from Spanish (in
Hi again,
Thank you for your comments about this report! That
it's fiction, in fact a hoax, I don't doubt at all. In
fact, it emerged some 11 times between 1864 and 1900
in different newspapers and in different languages.
This is actually the reason I was curious about the
science behind the
Hi,
I'm following up a research question and I'm not sure of the answer.
I am trying to find out whether any meteorite shower would have been
visible to the naked eye, and mentioned in newspapers, in the first
week of December 1847. Any ideas?
Many thanks,
Chris
Hi Chris,
I did consider the Andromedids but I didn't think they'd be visible or
much discussed. Would the interest expressed in that shower have been
published before or after December 6th?
Also I checked 19th century newspaper archives for the term
Andromedids but couldn't find anything for
Hi colleagues,
The Morning Republican of South Dakota (October 1920) described a
meteorite that was discovered somewhere between Alpena and Wessington
Springs in South Dakota in 1910. Its finder was a Mrs. A. A.
Barnhardt, who by 1914 had put the object on display in the state
capital, where it
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