Hi Steve and all,
That's 11 ads in 20 days or over 1 ad per two days. If every dealer put
up and equal amount of ads on this forum there would be over 200 hundred
ads per day or about 1,400 per week. I normally don't pick on you when
you put ads here but this forum shouldn't be for dealers to
Greetings,
The trouble with a gentleman's agreement is you need two gentlemen.
Another problem with all this is, the next fall, when specimens are
found, the first thing that the owners are
going to do is go to the Internet and put in a search of meteorites and
price. What they will find is
Greetings,
I have a number of ebay auctions ending soon and over the next week. I
have Tulia and Dimmitt specimens with Monnig Numbers, Allende 661 gram
endpiece and 32 gm Slice, Zag fragment 88gm and slice.
I also have some remaining Lost City part slices including a micro
specimen now at
Greetings,
Looks like the high resolution camera had a glitch in it during part of
the pass of the asteroid. Looks as though they have good images from
another camera on board though.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gYTWTtXEILaiJIO-61MYqWb6Z6igD9316F0G0
Can't wait to see some images when
Greetings,
I have eBay auctions closing in about 24 hours, 48 hours and 72 hours.
Auctions include: A larger slice of Lost City, Oklahoma (17.17 gm) which
will be the one of the last larger slices I can offer plus some smaller
part slices of this famous photographed fall,
NWA 1910 a
Hi Geoff and all,
Very nicely done! Great photos, great writing and very well put. For the
first installment, I think you covered some very important items that
people who start out in our field need to know. Good luck on this column
and I look forward to future installments! My best!
--AL
Hi Darren and all,
I checked this out and the auction house who printed this out and more
importantly the cataloger stated it was a typo. Apparently they do have
meteorites from time to time, (and perhaps a few meteorwrongs??) and
offer them. It was close enough to me or some of my friends in
Hi Steve and all,
Sikhote Alin sold for $3 to $4/ gram long time in the past. Don't know
if there were any around for sale in 1982. As long as the ebay seller is
reputable and has a high ebay rating then you have a bargain. If it
sounds too good to be true and the seller has a bad rating then
Greetings again,
I know he didn't buy it from Michael Casper in 1982 as he wasn't selling
meteorites then. Probably just a typo but I doubt that he bought it from
Casper in 1992 either. Auction seems somewhat suspicious to me.
Giving away meteorites is running an honest business? I'm sure
Greetings, I have some ebay items closing in about a day. These include
a very nice Odessa, Texas 198 grams, Allende slice 75 grams, Richfield
Kansas LL3.7, Gibeon whole specimen 113 gm, larger NWA 869 at 724 gm,
Three Lost City Oklahoma specimens one gram + and under, Travis County,
Texas
Greetings List Members,
I have some Millbillillie, Australia (one slice and one whole specimen
with flow lines), 2 Lost City, Oklahoma, Tuxtuac Mexico (LL4), a 10.85
gram part slice of Allende, Mexico (from the King Collection), a larger
Ghubara whole stone specimen (439 grams). I'll be
Hi Geoff and all,
I certainly second what Geoff has said after reviewing a copy of this
wonderful book and it is a first class publication and no collector of
meteorites or meteorite books should be without it!! I've tried
unsuccessfully to buy copies of it all over the midwest. I've not
Greetings to all,
With a consorted and dedicated effort on the part of Paul Harris and the
Meteorite.com site, we have moved the Nininger Moments which have been
absent from the web for a few months to this site for a new location on
the web for all to enjoy when they want to.
Photos have
Hi Pete,
Thanks for your comments. I would like to say this would have never
happened unless Paul Harris had done all the hard work. I just provided
the Nininger Moments that I wrote over the years and some photos.
--AL Mitterling
Pete Pete wrote:
Hi, all,
Absolutely brilliant, Al!
I
Hi Alex and all,
I'd say there are about two or three hundred dealers. While my
definition of a dealer is someone who has a tax license and is listed as
a business in their state or country it's a little more complicated than
that. There are certainly individuals who buy a quantity of a
Greetings,
I've seen the term thin slides used to describe thin sections every now and
then. Having
been a big supplier of sections for many years I have never called them thin
slides or slides. Wondering if this is a scientifically accepted term for thin
sections or not. It's not an
Nininger Moment #25 The Sale of the Nininger Collection
Part Two
With the sale of the first part of the Nininger Collection the Niningers
for the first time in thirty five years were able to pay off debts,
their mortgage, and go on a cruise. Nininger had carefully filed away
many letters from
Hi Bernd, Gary and all,
Does anyone know for sure who has the largest mass of NWA869? I've never
really been able to figure that one out since so much of this material
is around. I myself am owner of a 20 kilo specimen. Perhaps some sold to
owners who don't want to advertise. It be fun to have
Nininger Moment #25 The Sale of the Nininger's Collection
Part One
Since there is a current discussion on the list of where the Nininger
Collection is currently at I thought it would be appropriate to generate
this Nininger Moment.
From the 1920's to the late 1950's Nininger has hunted
Nininger Moment #7 - The Nininger Museum Part 2
After the arrival of the Nininger's and their collection, came the task
of setting up display cases
for their museum, fixing up the rented building for the public, general
cleaning up and painting to
give a more professional look to the museum.
Greetings,
Bob King asked me to post this for him as his emails aren't getting
through. So here is the post.
Hi Al, Mark and meteorite friends,
After your enjoyable posts about Nininger and the old place on Hwy. 61,
I went back to my Nininger Meteorite Crater Study Kit and in the
booklet, A
Hi Mark and all,
Since Mark posted the newspaper article about the Nininger's move from
Denver to the Meteor Crater location, I thought it might be fitting to
post my Nininger Moments in regards to this move. Anyone wanting to read
more of the Nininger Moments can go to Marks web page and
Hi Mark and all,
Since Mark posted the newspaper article about the Nininger's move from
Denver to the Meteor Crater location, I thought it might be fitting to
post my Nininger Moments in regards to this move. Anyone wanting to read
more of the Nininger Moments can go to Marks web page and
Hi Tett, Roman and all,
Tett Posted:
Then concluding with the suggestion that CAI's may be much older that
previously thought, and
that the solar system may also be much older.
Wish I could have heard the talk also. CAI's have been one of the more
intriguing things found in our solar systems
Hi Mark and all,
Bernd is everything you say he is and much, much more and a very worthy
nominee. We should all model ourselves after this outstanding
contributor to the list as well as his kind behavior. He is truly a gift
to us all!
--AL Mitterling
MARK BOSTICK wrote:
A true collector, an
Hi David and all,
I doubt that Richard will take the time to offer this strewn field data
as he is often times busy checking ebay auctions for possible violation
of illegal auctions for Canadian cultural heritage property being sold
on ebay in the form of meteorites. Ohhh, he also turns you in
Hi Steve and all,
I once had a wise old teacher at school tell the students that as long
as what another person does, doesn't effect other people that is his or
her business. If what that person does, DOES effect other people then it
becomes their business or in this case the list business.
Greetings,
Anyone up for a meteorite chat tonight? How about from now till ??
The official chat site is on Mark Bostick's website and chat room.
http://www.meteoritearticles.com/chatroom.html
Tonight's topic: The decreasing meteorite supply. Also a good place to
ask questions and just have
Greetings,
Auctions will end at about noon EST Saturday and Sunday.
I've only had a couple of eBay Auctions this year but have a good
variety of interesting items this time around. Items include: Axtell,
Texas CV3 8.4 Grams, a sizable Beaver, Oklahoma slice, Glorieta
Mountains endpiece, NWA
Hi Frederic,
I've made a number of mistakes also with the cut and paste features.
It's easy to do but mainly want to tell people that
working with you and your representative was a very positive thing and
that your a good source to deal with!
You can go into the auctions and change
Hi McCartney,
Your absolutely correct, there are plenty of Brenham specimens that are
stable. I know that there have been some in museums for 70 plus years
that don't appear to have any problems and were probably ones found in
drier areas so they aren't as prone to rust. I am sure they are
Greetings,
We had a live chat session last week and thought it might be fun to do
it again tonight. I am giving everyone a bit of warning so everyone can
plan and enjoy it. How about tonight at about 9 p.m. EST.
The official chat site is on Mark Bostick's website and chat room.
Hi Bob and all,
Skip Wison is all the things you say he is but I would like to differ
with you just a bit and respectfully. I'd like to say for the present
time that he is the greatest living meteorite hunter. The reason for
this is that Harvey H. Nininger found 222 unique meteorites using
Greetings,
We haven't had a live chat session for a long time anyone up??
The official chat site is on Mark Bostick's website and chat room.
http://www.meteoritearticles.com/chatroom.html
Tonight's topic: everything and anything (just keep it clean)
--AL Mitterling
Hi Ed and all,
Why not go to the local pharmacy and buy gelatin capsules. Small items
can be stuffed into those and placed in a small ryker mount along with a
label and description information at a fairly reasonable cost. I've done
this for a long time and sold to many adults, kids and so
Hi Geoff and all,
A Couple of finds in meteorites (but not on Earth) that come to mind is
Niningerite named after Harvey Nininger. I believe also that some
mineral was found in the Spring Water Pallasite that was unique to space
rocks. I see also that Bernd has sited some alien metal
Hi Bernd and thanks!
Sort of a fitting thing (farringtonite) as Farrington was Nininger's
mentor! Now which came first? The farrington or the Niningerite??
--AL
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AL wrote:
some mineral ... in the Spring Water Pallasite ... unique to space rocks
Yep, that's
Hi Dave, Don and all,
I have been forwarding these malicious attempts at fraud to ebay for the
last couple of years. eBay will send you a form letter stating they are
looking into it, then another email stating it isn't from them (or
paypal) and have turned it over to the proper authorities.
Hi Walter and all,
Still a classic webpage under IMCA's domain and one people should visit
when they can!
--AL Mitterling
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Hi Mike and all,
Funny you should post this subject. I am working on a product that
collectors can use in collections to keep specimens dry. Ideally if you
have a display case using one or more of these should help keep your
specimens in better condition. The product contains the blue
Greetings Paul, Peter and list,
Very well said!
--AL Mitterling
Paul Barford wrote:
I rather think this constant bitching and back-biting we find all
too much of on this list is a greater direct
threat to the hobby...
Well said!!! I agree 100%!!!
Peter Marmet
Bern, Switzerland
Greetings Plutoians,
Looks like there is a little backlash on the Pluto vote with only 4% of
the IAU deciding the "planets" fate.
A fierce backlash has begun against the decision by
astronomers to strip Pluto of its status as a planet.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/5283956.stm
To those interested,
I have a limited color catalog printing of my current items available
for sale. I will send these out on a first come first serve basis. If
interested send an off list email message to me. Please provide your
name, address, city, State and Zip (strictly my use only). This
Greetings All,
Thought I would jump in all this. For those in favor of changing the
status of Pluto (as if we have any voice in the matter),
I would recommend reading Clyde's book Out of the Darkness the Planet
Pluto Today's generation seems to like to try and change history and
what went on
Try Again.
Greetings,
Anyone interested in new meteorcraters should check this link out. Not
only a new one but from a
cometary impact. Nice for the researcher to post it on a forum rather
than the usual
circles. You be
the judge.
Greetings,
Anyone interested in new meteorcraters should check this link out. Not
only a new one but from a cometary impact.
Nice for the researcher to post it on a forum rather than the usual
circles. You be the judge.
Sorry for the wrong topic in my post.
--AL Mitterling
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Hi Matt and all,
Matt Morgan wrote:
The best insurance...2 dogs and a shotgun.
Matt, your ruining the surprise for would be thiefs. I am sure there are
others who have this sort of security. Heck with the dogs beware of the
owner :-)
Good insurance
--AL Mitterling
Hi Mike,
I think everyone has ran into this problem one time or another. Since
they don't really understand meteorites it is hard for them to put a
replacement cost on them. My insurer can't insure my collection. I had a
good friend who sold insurance try to find someone to insure my
Hi Martin and all,
Well put Martin and best to leave this type of off topic post for other
forums that deal with those type of issues.
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Hi Geoff and Listees,
I think you have hit the nail on the head in regards to this find which
is in pieces. I am sure he wants this to be larger than Steve Arnolds
orientated specimen. How can we be sure that what is in the hole he has
found isn't other fragments from other finds? I guess if
Greetings,
Besides this particular case, there seems to be another dealer who sold
a specimen for a considerable amount of money that was suppose to be a
certain type of meteorite. The sale was done before the classification.
It was later learned that the meteorite was not what it was suppose
Greetings to all,
There is another unfortunate side effect to the way specimens were
collected in the NWA region. To me (an this is only my opinion) there
has been a misrepresentation of true total weights by the finders along
with dealers buying material. It is my understanding that often
Greetings List members,
I would like to invite list members who haven't had a chance to check
out the Meteorite Impact Forum to try that forum out as another source
of meteorite related topics and discussion. The intent is not to replace
any of the other lists out there but rather provide
Hi Ron and all,
Some of the new ebay spoofs are designed so you can't even forward the
spoof to ebay. There have been a couple where I couldn't forward it to
them. I did try to tell them about the spoof but there damn automated
software won't acknowledge your complaint. So beware!
--AL
Greetings,
Several months back I made an offer on Milton. I didn't get any takers
on the material. With low total weight and being a third parent body I
would have thought I would have more interest. I guess people were
waiting for a bargain?? In any case I'll see what I can do but don't
Hi Anita and all,
Sounds like you have your priorities right on collecting meteorites. Your well
on your way to becoming a serious collector after you can fill in a few more
priorities with meteorite related items ;-)
All my best!
--AL
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Hi Andreas,
Hard to say what the problem is without some other imput. First it depends what
you were cutting. If you were cutting urelite then if you got one cut out of it
you were lucky. If you are cutting stony then something is wrong. If you are
cutting iron then maybe you have run into carbos
Dear List,
Just a note to say that the Meteorite Magazine Contest is going to becoming
to a close on December 31 at midnight New Zealand Time. To check out the
details of the contest go to this link:
http://www.arizonameteorites.com/contest.htm
First prize winner gets his/her choice of the
Hi Anne and all,
Silent list like silent night.
Greensburg is really a Brenham pallasite and yes properly classified and
studied. No
it isn't the largest pallasite in the world. I don't think that Esquel is
either as
Huckitta is pretty large and I think larger than Esquel.
Just a while back
Hi Walter and all,
I have read T. R. LeMaire's book Stones from the Stars (and have a copy
or two I would be willing to sell ;-) The book actually starts out with
some good information about meteorites but about half way through he starts
to mention the systematic landings and draws lines on
Hi Mark and all,
Mark, adding the photos to the Nininger Moments is really a very nice touch and
it is good to see some of the old photos again. Nininger Cutting specimens is
one of my favorites. I see the pictures from the old Meteorite Museum and just
wish I could spend a couple of hours there,
Hi Mark and all,
Your kind offer is most appreciated and will certainly help the cause. Shameless
bribes (borrowed from the original shameless ebay ads by Jim Strope) are
certainly encourage to get new subscribers from where ever you can. I hope to
see more such tactics to generate more
Hi Mark and all,
Ya, we're still picking up pieces of that darn stuff. Can't seem to get rid of
it. Just gets in the way :-) As I was telling another list member, we have 101
lakes in our one county. So any meteorite falls are probably attracted to the
water. There was a reported fireball which
Try this link.
--AL
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=2293725429
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Hi List,
Just a note that I have a very nice Toluca endpiece for sale. Weighs
337 grams nice
pattern in the etched face and a glass like surface. This is a solid
piece for your consideration. You can go to the auction at the link
below. I also have a few other items for sale on
Hi Mike and all,
This has happen to a couple of my high dollar auctions also, as well as one I
bid on one time from another well known dealer. Not the same person but it must
be a way of scamming people as you said and it's good to put out a notice when
it happens with meteorite sales.
Ebay did
Hi Darrne and all,
As you stated, without knowing the location find or fall then we could be
dealing with a single 100 gram
stone (which would get a much higher price) than a strewnfield with a 100 kg
total weight. This in my
opinion is the trouble with the NWA finds. The stone you buy could be
To those interested,
Anyone up for a live chat tonight??
http://www.meteoritearticles.com/chatroom.html
--AL
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Hi Bernd and all,
Your email as always is very appropriate! I think it should be a wake up call. A
drowning victim only comes up three times before going down for good.
To speak without thinking is to shoot without aiming.
I can't think of a single quote I disagree with. All my best to all.
Hi Jeff and all,
I to would enjoy seeing another addition come out but I have my doubts if there
will be one for a while. Perhaps you should go to the source Monica Grady. The
current one took about three or four years to come out after it was announced.
It was a long awaited printing from the
Dear list,
I may be able to offer some of the very very rare Acomita Pallasite
through the owner of the material. A TKW for this material is only 3956g
and most is locked up in research institutions and I very much doubt it
will ever become available.
If interested please contact me off list for
List members,
A reminder that we have a contest to see who can get the most new
subscriptions. New subscriptions names must be sent to me or Joel Schiff
and the magazine will verify these to determine a winner. Subscriptions
must be in before the end of year December 31, 2004. A list of dealers
Hi Tom and all,
I do. hello friend dese is for sal (translation: hello friend this is
for sale)
one/4kg
2/250g
3/50g
Tom AKA James Knudson wrote:
I don't either, braik where are you from?
Thanks, Tom
peregrineflier
IMCA 6168
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Hi List,
I suggested a contest about a week back to see who could get the most
Meteorite Magazine subscriptions and I am offering either a Richfield,
Kansas 19.8 gram Meteorite part slice or if you prefer a 10 gram Park
Forest part slice. I can provide photos but need someone to host.
Rules.
Hi Anne,
I like the idea of a second and third place. With Matt's and your offering of
some
nice pieces we can do that now! All my best!
--AL
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Dear Michael and all,
Michael, political ramblings are no place for this list. Please refrain from
doing so any more. If we can talk about politics then why not religion, classic
cars, cigars, coin collecting or what have you? A big part of the market is and
has been hurt by useless fighting, all
Hi David, Jay and all,
How many Pallasites are falls? I only know of four maybe five if Glorieta
Mt. is counted (can it be counted).
I have:
Mt. Vernon, Ky.
Omolom pallasite
Marjalahti,USSR
Glorieta Mt, NM
Others???
--AL
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Hello Dr. Svend Buhl and list,
I would like to challenge people on the list to a sort of contest. Lets see who
can get the most Meteorite Magazine subscriptions from now until the end of the
year! Winner gets a paid subscription for a full year (and yes it counts as one
of my totals :-) and
Hi Tom and all,
If you saw a meteor with no tail then chances are it was headed straight toward
you!! These are the ones to listen to see if any sound occurs a few seconds to a
couple of minutes later in the event material makes it to the ground. All my
best to you!
--AL
Tom AKA James Knudson
Hi Steve and all,
Go for the Dhofar's then.
--AL
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Hi Geoff and list,
Boy you guys get things turned around. The Nakhla Meteorite hit a cat not a
dog didn't it ;-)
--AL
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Hi List,
I was wondering if anyone has ever had any dealings with a Mr. Paul
Fischer? Any help off list would be appreciated. Best!
--AL
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Hi Robert and list members,
Good to see that there are others out there who have seen through some of the
discrepancies. I am glad you brought up the money issue as there are other items
that were left out of the booklet. One item was a gold rush along the Oregon
coast and John Evans ran into far
Greetings,
If were talking the largest intact pallasite then Huckitta at 1400 kg would
be it (though heavily oxidized) but Esquel when found was 1500 kg making it
the largest ever found. The Brenham isn't the largest pallasite.
Of course if Port Orford is ever found and assuming it is truly a
Hi Bernd and all,
I'll make that correction in the New Catalog of Meteorites I have.
Unfortunately when doing research these typos cause misunderstanding for
years to come and it will no doubt be used as a source for other printed
material and will continue to cause these others sources to bring
Hi Bernd and all,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
John Evans' 10 tons of the Port Orford pallasite was a deliberate hoax.
His Port Orford specimen was actually a piece of the Imilac meteorite.
I don't disagree that the pieces sent to the Smithsonian and Vienna were
Imilac, but I do think there is more
Not All Of Nininger Hunts Are Smooth
The Trip To Loreto, Baja California
Often turning his travels, letters from various people, and talking
to farmers, ranchers and many other sources, Nininger would run
into stories about where a meteorite was thought to exist if he
would only go and check it
Hi Bernhard,
My suggestion is to read Harry (Jr.) McSween's newest book Meteorites and
Their Parent Planets as it answers most of the questions you have addressed
with excellent reasons for our believe in what comes from where. A lot of
work has been done with Hubble and it has further verified
Hi Pierre-Marie and all,
Which I could help you out some but what you showed me is that I have precious few
French Meteorites in my collection after looking to see if I could help out. All my
best and good
luck.
--AL
Pelé Pierre-Marie wrote:
Hello to the List,
A few days ago, I sent an
Hi Bernhard and all,
Bernhard Rems wrote:
4) Iron meteorites originate from the core of a large and destroyed
planetoid.
Furthermore - there must have been at least two bodies of that size
(because planetoids do not explode, they have to collide to eject core
material into the solar system. Is
Hi Bernd and all,
Does anyone know the official name then of Tag 019?? I saw it once on the list but
didn't record it in my record proper. Anyone??
--AL
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Changing The Main Stream Thinking
On a program Of Meteorites
Besides Hunting for meteorites and his growing program of recovery,
Nininger had a passion and a dream that there would sooner or later
be an area of science of meteorites. His first efforts talking to a
number universities,
Hello Dean and all,
Welcome back Dean and congratulations on your marriage. Glad you didn't
get bit while playing with the sharks :-) Wishing you both the best of
life! Hope she has fun in all this craziness.
--AL Mitterling
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Greetings everyone,
Great topic and fun to read the responses. I'm going to rain on the parade and
say it should be which 'known one came closest. Which one came closest is sort
of a moot point as only 1% of specimens are ever found, so you know there has to
be a significant meteorite within a
Hi Bernd and all,
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Now anyone guess who this partial slice came from ???
David New???
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The Tough Early Years
A number of lessons that Nininger learned in the beginning of
his quest for finding meteorites taught him early on that a program
of hunting down meteorites would be a rewarding but difficult
endeavor. In one of the early chapters of Find a Falling Star, at
the beginning of
Second Try
The Tough Early Years
A number of lessons that Nininger learned in the beginning of
his quest for finding meteorites taught him early on that a program
of hunting down meteorites would be a rewarding but difficult
endeavor. In one of the early chapters of Find a Falling Star, at
the
Hey List,
There was a meteor or space junk fall around my area on Sunday. A local
family video taped the event and can be viewed here:
http://home.wane.com/Video/ufo%20raw.WMV
Ironically I might have seen this fall my self when I was on my way home
from Kokomo Indiana as I saw a nice bright
Hello again,
After viewing the video footage which was better than my line of sight on
the object (if it was the same object) seems to be moving too slow for
meteoroid debris. I am betting on some space junk for the time being.
--AL
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