Re: [meteorite-list] New group name for Olivine Diogenites

2003-07-28 Thread Adam Hupe



Dear Don and List Members,

We received a great deal of input from list members 
regarding the naming of this group and appreciate it greatly. After an 
exhaustive consensus it appears the name Olivine Diogenite that was coined on 
the Antarctic finds has stuck. The main thing is that scientists who were 
unaware of this type of meteorite now know of its existence because of the two 
recent finds from Northwest Africa. I addressed this issue in a previous 
posting to the list so I will not go into great detail on this 
post.

It would have been nice to honor some pioneer in 
meteoritics but the term"Olivine Diogenite" has been used in several 
publications so changing the name now might cause more confusion regarding this 
new main group. The cool thing is that this is being recognized as a new 
group expanding theHED group to HEDO. The HED designation has not 
been changed for centuries making this, in our opinion, a history making 
event. 

Again, thank you everybody who tried to help out in 
regards to this subject.

All the best,

Adam HUpe


 
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  Subject: [meteorite-list] New group name 
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Cc: don j 
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Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 5:04 
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Subject: Re: New group name for Olivine 
Diogenites ( Date corrected )



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  don 
  j merchant 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Cc: don j 
  merchant 
  Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 1:08 
  AM
  Subject: New group name for Olivine 
  Diogenites
  
   
  Hi Adam, Greg, and List.
  I would like to propose my thoughts to 
  several names for this new meteorite group. Now that NWA 1877 has been 
  determined to be the 5th Olivine-Diogenite along with NWA 1459, 
  ALHA-77252, EETA 79002, andGRA 98108 we all have a chance to express 
  our ideas of naming this new group, which is very exciting. It is to my 
  understanding that the HED group comes from the same parent body most 
  likely the asteroid Vesta.Well how is this so known. It is known through 
  the science of spectroscopy discovered in 1859 by Gustav Robert Kirchhoff 
  and Robert Wilhelm Bunsen.With many thanks to Joeseph von Fraunhofer who 
  observed in the early 1800's that the continous spectrum was marred by 
  over 700 dark lines now called Fraunhofer lines. Lets not forget that the 
  first person to use the technique of spectroscopy to examine celestial 
  objects was William Huggins in 1863,but lets go back to where this 
  truely started and that was in 1666. By one of the most famous scientist 
  of all time. It was Sir Isaac Newton's discovery of the spectrum that all 
  advancements of spectoscopy are the underlying use of this important 
  discovery.It is through Spectroscopythat has helped determine the 
  composition of this HED group to the parent bodyVesta, and other 
  meteorite parent bodies such asthe asteroidsCeres, Pallas, 
  Hebe, ect. Though these scientists were not directly related to meteorites 
  in general, they have truelylayed down the foundation for the study 
  of meteorites today. If not for spectroscopy we would not know where this 
  HED group came from as well as others in the first place. In fact if not 
  for spectroscopy this contest naming this new Olivine-Diogenite group 
  might not well exist!! I feel and it's only my opinion-that this group be 
  named for one of these great scientist's who should be honored for their 
  great achievment in helping today's scientist match parent bodies to many 
  of the meteorite's in our collections at home.So in closing and in order 
  from my first choice to last I propose to call this new group NEWTONITES, 
  then, FRAUNHOFERNITES, then KIRCHOFF-BUNSONITES, and last but not least 
  with special thanks to William Huggins for being the firstusing the 
  spectroscope toward the heavens. What an honor for him to have this group 
  call HUGGINITES.
  
   
  Thanks all for your time.
   
  Don Merchant


[meteorite-list] New group name for Olivine Diogenites

2003-07-27 Thread don j merchant





  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  don j 
  merchant 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Cc: don j merchant 
  Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 5:04 AM
  Subject: Re: New group name for Olivine 
  Diogenites ( Date corrected )
  
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
don j 
merchant 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Cc: don j merchant 
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 1:08 
AM
Subject: New group name for Olivine 
Diogenites

 
Hi Adam, Greg, and List.
I would like to propose my thoughts to several 
names for this new meteorite group. Now that NWA 1877 has been determined to 
be the 5th Olivine-Diogenite along with NWA 1459, ALHA-77252, EETA 79002, 
andGRA 98108 we all have a chance to express our ideas of naming this 
new group, which is very exciting. It is to my understanding that the HED 
group comes from the same parent body most likely the asteroid Vesta.Well 
how is this so known. It is known through the science of spectroscopy 
discovered in 1859 by Gustav Robert Kirchhoff and Robert Wilhelm Bunsen.With 
many thanks to Joeseph von Fraunhofer who observed in the early 1800's that 
the continous spectrum was marred by over 700 dark lines now called 
Fraunhofer lines. Lets not forget that the first person to use the technique 
of spectroscopy to examine celestial objects was William Huggins in 
1863,but lets go back to where this truely started and that was in 
1666. By one of the most famous scientist of all time. It was Sir Isaac 
Newton's discovery of the spectrum that all advancements of spectoscopy are 
the underlying use of this important discovery.It is through 
Spectroscopythat has helped determine the composition of this HED 
group to the parent bodyVesta, and other meteorite parent bodies such 
asthe asteroidsCeres, Pallas, Hebe, ect. Though these scientists 
were not directly related to meteorites in general, they have 
truelylayed down the foundation for the study of meteorites today. If 
not for spectroscopy we would not know where this HED group came from as 
well as others in the first place. In fact if not for spectroscopy this 
contest naming this new Olivine-Diogenite group might not well exist!! I 
feel and it's only my opinion-that this group be named for one of these 
great scientist's who should be honored for their great achievment in 
helping today's scientist match parent bodies to many of the meteorite's in 
our collections at home.So in closing and in order from my first choice to 
last I propose to call this new group NEWTONITES, then, FRAUNHOFERNITES, 
then KIRCHOFF-BUNSONITES, and last but not least with special thanks to 
William Huggins for being the firstusing the spectroscope toward the 
heavens. What an honor for him to have this group call 
HUGGINITES.

 
Thanks all for your time.
 
Don Merchant